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Vignette Camera Conclusion

Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )

I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.

Lakata said:
i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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I think you may have used the free version...which doesn't support the full resolution of your phone. But I took a few different pictures comparing, I only posted that one comparision, but yeah vignette came out better everytime alot more crisp anyways.

bongd said:
I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry

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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...

bongd said:
I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
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I was watching a video on youtube of the droid x camera and features....I wish SE would give us something like that. Pretty slick interface and options....really no need for 3rd party apps. However I do have PicSay Pro...so that gives me everything my heart desires lol.
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I returned to the stock app because vignette is so damn slow and I could not find a way to just take a picture and have it save without having to push 50 buttons.
I won't deny the quality is far superior, but like I said its just stop slow.
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Lakata said:
i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?

Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI

iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
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pngface said:
Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
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I've noticed low light shots are a week point to... that's when I break out my actual digital camera tho.... which also happens to be sony lol
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iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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i just removed the shortcut m8 from the screen and in vignette there is a shortcut when u use it to take video and when you press the button u go to video mode to your stock camera app

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
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exactly what i did

I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app

synlar said:
I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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It almost sounds like your doing something wrong. Do you have the paid version?
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine

bazzatron said:
Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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There pretty close, but it almost looks like the X10 default camera has the edge in that pic. Perhaps the X10 default camera is better in lower light photos? I haven't tested that yet.

iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too

rafaperez3d said:
Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
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y exactly ) i was thinking is easy to understand that i only deleted the app from my screen not uninstalling it
and about those 2 pictures with the sunglasses m8... there maybe is not difference in close up pictures coz macro is working fine but try to take pictures from distance and youll see the difference anyway i`m using steady shot for best preformance 8mpx superfine and 16:9 widescreen something u dont have at stock app 8pmx only 4:3 ... sooo there u go aaaa and another thing with vignette u can take picture with a real FLASH ... not with LED light

alternative camera apps

as a serious amateur photographer, i find the stock camera app a bit basic for my taste so have been looking at alternatives. so far i've tried the free versions of "camera fv-5" and proCapture but settled in the end for "Camera ZOOM FX" @ £1.79
this lets me control ISO, provides steadyshot functions, voice-activated shooting, custom hard buttons, touch-focus, advance metering options, burst-mode and much more, including an amazing range of filters and image-processing options.
no stability etc. problems with my N4 as yet.
what's everybody else using?

"Serious amateur photographer" if you were really serious you'd buy a dslr
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rockneo said:
"Serious amateur photographer" if you were really serious you'd buy a dslr
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I own numerous digital (and film) SLRs and other cameras
but the phone is the one that is always on my person.

The picture quality is pretty crappy to be honest. Just saying. I envy my friend's Galaxy S3.
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scream4cheese said:
The picture quality is pretty crappy to be honest. Just saying. I envy my friend's Galaxy S3.
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why's that? the h/w spec seems almost identical between the 2 phones.
i haven't found a camera so crappy that i couldn't get decent pics out of it somehow. the zoom fx app makes this easier than with the stock software.

theabsurdman said:
why's that? the h/w spec seems almost identical between the 2 phones.
i haven't found a camera so crappy that i couldn't get decent pics out of it somehow. the zoom fx app makes this easier than with the stock software.
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That may be so but you have to try out the Galaxy S3 camera first. It shoots faster. The quality is better. It has video focus. The sensor is better. I even read reviews between the two phones and the Galaxy S3's camera was the victor. I had to try it out myself to see and evidently they were right.
I rarely use my phone's camera and I should start. Lol. I have used zoom fx and it's pretty good.
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theabsurdman said:
what's everybody else using?
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My Pentax K-5
But on my phone, I use either Camera360 if I'm lazy, or actually I do use the stock camera. It's just so smooth and easy to access everywhere, such as from lockscreen or from gallery or app drawer.
Random tip: I find that if you tap the place you want to focus and then quickly tap the shutter button (I generally use 2 hands for this), you will take the pic immediately upon focus lock, kind of like focus-trapping. I find that this method generally gives better focus, because if you hold the shutter button, it'll focus-lock and then because hands tend to be shaking/moving, proper focus is lost.
Have you tried the stock image editor? I was pleasantly surprised to find out it lets you adjust exposure, vignetting, contrast, B&W filters, tonal curves, saturation, etc! To be perfectly honest with you, since finding out about those settings, I haven't really used Camera360 unless it's for those special filters like "big-head mode" or "dreamlike" or whatever.
Camera360 lets you adjust everything you've described, but it's free

There's a camera app called "Perfectly Clear"
that I saw many people were impressed with, check it out in the play store!

[Q] So about the camera...

We all know the the N4 camera is not the best, so i was just wondering if y'all have made any modifications to make the camera better? If you have can you please share. Thanks.

There are a few popular paid cameras that are supposed to be quite good. I've always been content with CM's camera (not Focal). Seems to take pictures MUCH quicker

its a camera phone, of course its not the best camera. but if you know how to use a camera, the nexus 4 does really well, using the stock camera app. check out the post your photos thread in the general section. but if you have only the basic knowledge of how to get around a camera, then i can see someone calling it inadequate. the n4 cam just needs a little more knowledge to adjust it how you need it for that certain photo, using all the settings.

simms22 said:
its a camera phone, of course its not the best camera. but if you know how to use a camera, the nexus 4 does really well, using the stock camera app. check out the post your photos thread in the general section. but if you have only the basic knowledge of how to get around a camera, then i can see someone calling it inadequate. the n4 cam just needs a little more knowledge to adjust it how you need it for that certain photo, using all the settings.
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Heh, chill. I agree that if used the right way it can take good photos. All I was asking for is if there was a way to make the process faster and up to standard of the other "Camera phones"as you put it.

rockstarindian1 said:
Heh, chill.
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lol
i was just saying that i like really the camera. and that it gets put down without a real reason, because its being compared it to cameras from phones that cost $600+. its actually a decent camera, especially for the price of the phone. someones got to stick up for it :angel:

ziddey said:
There are a few popular paid cameras that are supposed to be quite good. I've always been content with CM's camera (not Focal). Seems to take pictures MUCH quicker
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Honestly I tried focal today and I was not impressed by it in its early stages. The focus is very hard to adjust and takes forever to focus correctly... The exposure bubble also has to move around to achieve maximum results. Overall it might be a good camera with a lot of options, but you have to be very professional in order to use all of them and know exactly which ones to use at certain times. The stock camera was made for an average consumer but focal was made for a photographer. Here I will show you some tests I did with stock vs focal...
First is stock then Focal.
In the first two pictures the Focal picture has a much lower resolution than stock (I didn't notice that until now) they were both taken in automatic mode with no adjustments. You can tell how much more saturation Focal has but it just can't seem to focus as good as stock.
The second two pictures were taken with flash and in night mode at the same resolution. Once again you can see how much more saturated the colors are on Focal. While stock is a much more sharper image without any blur
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simms22 said:
lol
i was just saying that i like really the camera. and that it gets put down without a real reason, because its being compared it to cameras from phones that cost $600+. its actually a decent camera, especially for the price of the phone. someones got to stick up for it :angel:
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No it definitely gets more flak than it deserves.

aanonymoushuman said:
Honestly I tried focal today and I was not impressed by it in its early stages. The focus is very hard to adjust and takes forever to focus correctly... The exposure bubble also has to move around to achieve maximum results. Overall it might be a good camera with a lot of options, but you have to be very professional in order to use all of them and know exactly which ones to use at certain times. The stock camera was made for an average consumer but focal was made for a photographer. Here I will show you some tests I did with stock vs focal...
First is stock then Focal.
In the first two pictures the Focal picture has a much lower resolution than stock (I didn't notice that until now) they were both taken in automatic mode with no adjustments. You can tell how much more saturation Focal has but it just can't seem to focus as good as stock.
The second two pictures were taken with flash and in night mode at the same resolution. Once again you can see how much more saturated the colors are on Focal. While stock is a much more sharper image without any blur
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Yeah, i've tried a few 3rd party camera apps too. Most either tend to result in very unnatural looking pics or they are pretty much stock with a different UI :I

I've never had overall success with any camera app besides stock. It does everything pretty good.

@aanonymoushuman.
Dem toes...
I bet you can hang from a tree branch by your feet with those bad boys.

simms22 said:
its a camera phone, of course its not the best camera. but if you know how to use a camera, the nexus 4 does really well, using the stock camera app. check out the post your photos thread in the general section. but if you have only the basic knowledge of how to get around a camera, then i can see someone calling it inadequate. the n4 cam just needs a little more knowledge to adjust it how you need it for that certain photo, using all the settings.
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i am one of those people that knows next to nothing. i've tried asking in the past but never got much of a solution. it seems to me that every picture i take with it is very blue or purplish. are there any simple tips on how to easily correct this?

estallings15 said:
@aanonymoushuman.
Dem toes...
I bet you can hang from a tree branch by your feet with those bad boys.
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+1

Disappointed with Camera, suggest alternate cameras apps

Had purchased this phone with lot of expectations about OIS camera but unfortunately the camera itself is capable bug LG provided with not a great camera app.
Now I know that there are mods available which to some extent improve the quality of photos but still its not upto the mark.
Now I want to know whether you are using any good camera app which you consider gives better result than the stock camera?
Looking forward to your suggestions.
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honest1212 said:
Had purchased this phone with lot of expectations about OIS camera but unfortunately the camera itself is capable bug LG provided with not a great camera app.
Now I know that there are mods available which to some extent improve the quality of photos but still its not upto the mark.
Now I want to know whether you are using any good camera app which you consider gives better result than the stock camera?
Looking forward to your suggestions.
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I personally think the camera itself is great piece of hardware, the software is on the other hand, however, as many reported (and I agreed) the IQ (image quality) when taking in the good light source is super. In another hand, when taking under low light condition, it's crap.
There is a modded version of it, if yours is rooted, give it a try.
I tend not to install 3rd party app.

I've tried the camera on stock lg rom and 4.4.2 on PA, both pictures look terrible compared to the Nexus 5's camera with HDR mode.

I am using Focal camera (from the ex-CyanogenMod app ). Great UI and features. Still beta, but no lags for me)

gummybear00 said:
I've tried the camera on stock lg rom and 4.4.2 on PA, both pictures look terrible compared to the Nexus 5's camera with HDR mode.
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lol what? the nexus 5 is a g2 with a worse camera so how does that work?

lionheart2092 said:
lol what? the nexus 5 is a g2 with a worse camera so how does that work?
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Random noobs that flame a device they buy. I never understand people buying a phone and just complains.
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TheHaso said:
Random noobs that flame a device they buy. I never understand people buying a phone and just complains.
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personally i think the camera is pretty decent on the g2 id imagine the lumia ones are better obviously but fail to see another phone thats better than the g2's

lmao. random noobs who haven't even used the other device talking about comparison? what do you know? nothing.. keep theorycrafting.
the nexus 5 has an optimized camera app that has better image stabilization and HDR+ mode that actually works by taking 5 pictures and combining it into a much crisper picture compared to normal mode. the HDR mode in the G2 looks practically the same in terms of sharpness and quality.

gummybear00 said:
I've tried the camera on stock lg rom and 4.4.2 on PA, both pictures look terrible compared to the Nexus 5's camera with HDR mode.
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I'm the opposite heh, I returned my Nexus 5 and picked up a G2 and think the pictures from the G2 look considerably better, in anything but great lightning. Outside with great lighting I think both create very good photos. Additionally, while the software part on the G2 isn't great it's still well ahead of the camera software on the Nexus, which is about as bare bones basic as you can get.

gummybear00 said:
lmao. random noobs who haven't even used the other device talking about comparison? what do you know? nothing.. keep theorycrafting.
the nexus 5 has an optimized camera app that has better image stabilization and HDR+ mode that actually works by taking 5 pictures and combining it into a much crisper picture compared to normal mode. the HDR mode in the G2 looks practically the same in terms of sharpness and quality.
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I have tried both phones. One does not need to be Einstein to see the difference.
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TheHaso said:
I have tried both phones. One does not need to be Einstein to see the difference.
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I think it actually only uses 3 pictures though. But not sure. I saw in a review that it uses 3 with 4.4.2 to make it faster a little. But it still turns out great. I personally can't see the difference in pictures unless placed side by side but that's just me I think since I don't really pay too close detail.
One thing I want to say is video on the nexus 5 is terrible unless full day light and even then not very good. It darkens it so much (which I think is software) but it's practically unusable with out lots of light because of that. Hopefully Google fixes that
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Is the image stabilization a hardware feature? Like, in the VS980 version of the G2, does image stabilization work when using AOSP-based KitKat roms and the default AOSP camera?

The Lenovo Supercamera or whatever it's called will blow you away mate.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/szwk43z5gio6b37/Super Camera.apk
That one is in my Dropbox, it's the same APK from the thread in Apps & Games section.
I think they renamed it to Lenovo SNAPit too, not sure.
Change it to 13MP in the settings menu too, because it's set lower as default.
Here are some shots I just took (huge images)
https://hostr.co/file/zukavQ8oIGG9/2014222105859.jpg
https://hostr.co/file/bRNv2kfDSXsr/2014222105913.jpg
https://hostr.co/file/jl9OeLx4HQxK/2014222110042.jpg
Not a photographer so they might look ****, I don't know lol.

I'm disappointed too with g2 camera (d802), it is extremely slow and in low light it is impossible to take pictures. Then I installed aosp roms and things got worse. Here some pics, taken in very low light with aosp camera (android 4.4.2) but even with stock rom camera I can not obtain decent results.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hi74s269d37jqbg/Dvu99ChNTA

Does V20 has portrait mode like iPhone in Camera?

I m willing to buy this phone for HiRes music and it is cheaper now. But I want to know if this thing has portrait mode or not.
Portrait Mode: It is similar to bouque effect present in dslr or in simple words background becomes blur so the foreground stands out clearer.

experot said:
I m willing to buy this phone for HiRes music and it is cheaper now. But I want to know if this thing has portrait mode or not.
Portrait Mode: It is similar to bouque effect present in dslr or in simple words background becomes blur so the foreground stands out clearer.
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well in a sense with manual mode yeah because you can select what you want in focus

No, the V20 does not have that. The V20 is quite the exact opposite of the iPhone. The iPhone is for people who can't or won't figure things out for themselves. The V20 is for those who know and want to do things themselves and have more control. You can use the Google Camera app and use its blur mode if you want though.

CHH2 said:
No, the V20 does not have that. The V20 is quite the exact opposite of the iPhone. The iPhone is for people who can't or won't figure things out for themselves. The V20 is for those who know and want to do things themselves and have more control. You can use the Google Camera app and use its blur mode if you want though.
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I don't think google camera app uses dual camera setup,that can be intalled to any phone and doesn't provide good bg blur effect.
Still thanks for reply.
Tell me if there is any other option in Manual mode etc

There are at least 5 camera apps I can think of that allows this... However, I am not going to publicly promote a product or service that if obtained through proper stores,costs money. So... Sorry about that. I searched for aDSLR solution for some time. The main issue I was coming across was most replacement alps made it look like someone ate some potato chips, then touched all over the camera(s) lens(es) with said hands without properly wiping them all over their roommates couch.
Come to think of it.... I was eating some hamburger flavored chips.......hmmm

experot said:
I don't think google camera app uses dual camera setup,that can be intalled to any phone and doesn't provide good bg blur effect.
Still thanks for reply.
Tell me if there is any other option in Manual mode etc
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Both the Google camera app and the iPhone are going to do the same thing, which is use software trickery to blur the background by using information based on changes of depth. iPhone does this using two cameras and the Google app uses one and just has you "pan" the camera up and does some nifty calculations. As for installing it on any phone, you're in the V20 section asking about what to use on a V20. Someone ported it to the V20 and I've been using it for when I want auto photos since then just as well as I would on my Nexus devices. So I don't understand your point. The Google app actually does a decent job for software based trickery.
As for any other options in manual mode, that's not the point of manual mode. Manual mode is for those who want full control over their images. This means you are in charge of pre and post production. Want a specific type of light? Then find and/or set up that type of light. Want background blur? You will have to know what it takes to get blur out of this sensor size and be able to set that situation up. Like I said before, the V20 is not a dummy mode phone.
Ultimately though, if you want to get bokeh all the time all day long, you need at least a full frame DSLR and a very large aperture lens attached to it. Even dedicated cameras with fast lenses with sensors larger than anything in a phone run into issues creating bokeh in certain situations. Or, expand your photography horizons. If all you care about is bokeh, you need to be a bit more creative.
If you still aren't happy with any of the above, just get an iPhone. I hear they're great for when you don't want to have to do any thinking at all.