Guys as you can see, many started posting concerning some defects of the Note's screen. It's starting to look widespread. Might be wrong tho.
Should we be worried of widespread manufacturing defects? I would hate sending my Note back to Amazon.de even when it hasn't even arrived yet! I hate all the hassle/waiting/delays.
Please only post insightful/informative answers, because I'm starting to get worried and I can ASSURED you I'm not the worrying or nitpicking type so that's says something.
I believe many or some others people are in the same situation as me. Also I got it from Amazon.de so it's EU Model.
Could this be EU model specific "problems"? If it does NOT affect it's performance/reliability and day2day usage I don't even care then..
But I would hate having the screen of a expensive device failing on me after couple months. It's the phones main feature after all and many started complaining about it.
koniakki said:
Guys as you can see, many started posting concerning some defects of the Note's screen. It's starting to look widespread. Might be wrong tho.
Should we be worried of widespread manufacturing defects? I would hate sending my Note back to Amazon.de even when it hasn't even arrived yet! I hate all the hassle/waiting/delays.
Please only post insightful/informative answers, because I'm starting to get worried and I can ASSURED you I'm not the worrying or nitpicking type so that's says something.
I believe many or some others people are in the same situation as me. Also I got it from Amazon.de so it's EU Model.
Could this be EU model specific "problems"? If it does NOT affect it's performance/reliability and day2day usage I don't even care then..
But I would hate having the screen of a expensive device failing on me after couple months. It's the phones main feature after all and many started complaining about it.
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According to my poll, over 83% of the people here who responded think the Note is the best phone ever made. So I think you might be barking up the wrong tree or singing the wrong Note needlessly.
koniakki said:
Guys as you can see, many started posting concerning some defects of the Note's screen. It's starting to look widespread. Might be wrong tho.
Should we be worried of widespread manufacturing defects? I would hate sending my Note back to Amazon.de even when it hasn't even arrived yet! I hate all the hassle/waiting/delays.
Please only post insightful/informative answers, because I'm starting to get worried and I can ASSURED you I'm not the worrying or nitpicking type so that's says something.
I believe many or some others people are in the same situation as me. Also I got it from Amazon.de so it's EU Model.
Could this be EU model specific "problems"? If it does NOT affect it's performance/reliability and day2day usage I don't even care then..
But I would hate having the screen of a expensive device failing on me after couple months. It's the phones main feature after all and many started complaining about it.
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Theres absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you display a full-black picture on the phones display in lightless environment you can see the OLED display emits a little bit of light (like 1/1000 of the best LCDs I've seen). Also you might spot few black spots when looking at the screen with your perhiperal vision. So yea... huge problems!
Your never ever going to see these "problems" in normal usage scenarios. Some people just like to make practically non-existing problems into huge "dealbreaker" situations.
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According to my poll, over 83% of the people here who responded think the Note is the best phone ever made. So I think you might be barking up the wrong tree.
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Did I say otherwise? That is NOT great phone? Best is subjective to each one needs and opinion. But for me it's the BEST phone for what I want and look after. That's WHY I order it.
Don't take this the wrong way but that's your opinion of insightful/informative answer? Please don't answer. Just think about it.
I did not ask if it's good/best phone or if you like it. I ordered it for the same reasons like almost all here.
I believe my post is very clear of what it's about.
I asked about the display/screen issues some are having. So please next time answer more appropriate and talk about the display/screen "issues" and not about trees and barking and whatever you wan't to talk about.
P.S: See what I had write now? I hate to write such comments/posts. There's no need for them I believe.
A more appropriate answer like: No it's not widespread. I just isolated case or something or whatever, would have been much preferred. Thank you.
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Did I say otherwise? That is NOT great phone? Best is subjective to each one needs and opinion. But for me it's the BEST phone for what I want and look after. That's WHY I order it.
Don't take this the wrong way but that's your opinion of insightful/informative answer? Please don't answer. Just think about it.
I did not ask if it's good/best phone or if you like it. I ordered it for the same reasons like almost all here.
I believe my post is very clear of what it's about.
I asked about the display/screen issues some are having. So please next time answer more appropriate and talk about the display/screen "issues" and not about trees and barking and whatever you wan't to talk about.
P.S: See what I had write now? I hate to write such comments/posts. There's no need for them I believe.
A more appropriate answer like: No it's not widespread. I just isolated case or something or whatever, would have been much preferred. Thank you.
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I apologise if I have offended you by the manner in which I replied. I was not trying to be patronising but just trying to reassure you and that you might be worried unnecessarily.
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Theres absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you display a full-black picture on the phones display in lightless environment you can see the OLED display emits a little bit of light (like 1/1000 of the best LCDs I've seen). Also you might spot few black spots when looking at the screen with your perhiperal vision. So yea... huge problems!
Your never ever going to see these "problems" in normal usage scenarios. Some people just like to make practically non-existing problems into huge "dealbreaker" situations.
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I know. As I said I'm not the nitpicking type. I will never turn the brightness to a 100%(had it at the lowest on my SGS2) and wont stare a full-black picture in lightless environment for no apparent reason obviously.
The thing that got me worried was those black spots to be honest. So reliability is a great concern for me.
And thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it.
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I apologise if I have offended you by the manner in which I replied. I was not trying to be patronising but just trying to reassure you that you might be worried unnecessarily.
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None taken. I apologize for my saying also. We are all part of a great community here. And also a part of a bigger one too. Yes, XDA Community.
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None taken. I apologize for my saying also. We are all part of a great community here. And also a part of a bigger one too. Yes, XDA Community.
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We all are XDA-Brothers & Sisters !
Spots before your eyes dept.
There seem to be a couple of cases of defective screens, but a huge amount of opinion about the qualities of Pentile screens. The only thing I can notice with a magnifying glass, is that white text on a black background seems to have a fuzzy red edge to it. Black text on a white background is sharp.
Links that shed light on the matter:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
http://www.nouvoyance.com/technology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active-matrix_OLED
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emitting_diode#Advantages
ankydu said:
We all are XDA-Brothers & Sisters !
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What about married members? Or members dating? Is that even legal?
Xaddict said:
There seem to be a couple of cases of defective screens, but a huge amount of opinion about the qualities of Pentile screens. The only thing I can notice with a magnifying glass, is that white text on a black background seems to have a fuzzy red edge to it. Black text on a white background is sharp.
Links that shed light on the matter:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
http://www.nouvoyance.com/technology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active-matrix_OLED
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emitting_diode#Advantages
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Excellent read Xaddict. Thanks for taking the time to post them. It would be useful for future viewers that might find this thread. I know a bit about the PenTile and amoled technology...
My concern are the black spots. I know some SGS2 screens have them. I did not notice them when I checked it on my SGS2. So are those black spots are anything to worry about? Are they inside the margin of error or something?
And my final question. Do they affect the screen's reliability in any way?
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Excellent read Xaddict. Thanks for taking the time to post them. It would be useful for future viewers that might find this thread. I know a bit about the PenTile and amoled technology...
My concern are the black spots. I know some SGS2 screens have them. I did not notice them when I checked it on my SGS2. So are those black spots are anything to worry about? Are they inside the margin of error or something?
And my final question. Do they affect the screen's reliability in any way?
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Can't comment on black spots as I have not seen them.
Compared to my HD2, the Note has blacks that are black as the ace of spades on a dark night, vivid colours and sharp detail(unless viewed with a magnifying glass), and no spots.
Not sure of differences between SAMOLED Pentile and OLED Monitors but Sony are releasing a new range of OLED Broadcast monitors that sell from $10,000-$30,000. They are replacing LCD and CRT's in the broadcast industry.
To quote phonearena.com "To wrap it up we'd say that the fears about PenTile appear hugely overblown when it comes to the new HD Super AMOLED technology, which delivers higher pixel density."
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Theres absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you display a full-black picture on the phones display in lightless environment you can see the OLED display emits a little bit of light (like 1/1000 of the best LCDs I've seen). Also you might spot few black spots when looking at the screen with your perhiperal vision. So yea... huge problems!
Your never ever going to see these "problems" in normal usage scenarios. Some people just like to make practically non-existing problems into huge "dealbreaker" situations.
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It seems like some people are so obsessed with 'perfection' in their ever evolving cutting edge gadgets that at some point the manufacturers are going to need start binning their devices, selling a velvet glove hand inspected version for say 50% more, or start trashing the majority of new screens/devices due to perceived imperfections thus driving the prices through the roof, unfortunately though these scenarios wouldn't satisfy the majority of the perfectionsts (reading some comments it makes me wonder what the writers are like to deal with in real life, how they would like being held to account at such a nitpicking and unrealistic standard) as everyone wants their cutting edge gadgets to be minimally priced as well.
Think about it for a minute, we are basically packing around the equivalent of a cutting edge laptop from a few years ago in our pockets, what happened to the excitement of being part of the technological cutting edge? Enjoy your gadget while you have it, you'll be replacing it soon enough anyways with something new that is flawed somehow but much more awesome.
I remember a similar controversy that was being peddled when the HTC HD2 came out. If you viewed the screen with sunlight reflecting off it at a 45 degree angle, you could see the etched pattern of the capacitive touchscreen grid. I hardly ever noticed it and when I did it made no difference to the quality of the phone's screen, but some held that it was a defective design.
Well I have seen on a couple of S2s and Notes some dark marks in the background. Best visible to me when looking on a grey background with low brightness setting.
Eg. Maps.
I am not too worried about this, since with increasing brightness it gets much better.
Since I checked a couple of stores and always found it, I believe it is a common issue. Might be worse or better from phone to phone, but always there.
Thank you all for your replies. Greatly appreciated.
So, to answer my own concerns based on your replies: No, is not an issue at all. Well, so far atleast, since it's a new device not many users if any, used it for longer perioed(3-6months).
Let's hope it's all good when it arrives in a couple days. If anything with the phone I will post to the appropriate threads. Thanks again.
This is a general statement and not a direct first hand account of my experiences with the SGN.
The human brain has the ability to ignore small issues or lack of information. For example, you can listen to a conversation with your date at a restaurant even with a lot of background noise. You can look at an image for a split second and be able to make out what the picture was even if you only saw part of it. Tiny issues with the display may not even register.
However, if you are looking for issues you will find them. Also you are far more likely to be bothered by an issue once it is pointed out to you. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. If someone tells you looking at the screen in very specific circumstances will result in a visual artifact, you will tend to always notice it. I am not saying we should not share this information and just unquestioningly accept what we are given. Just be careful what road you go down. Somethings cannot be unseen!
I recently looked up a review of my monitor for my computer and noticed people were complaining about ghosting in some games. I had not noticed it before I read that review, however guess what I always notice when playing games now?
PS. Want to sell a 24" Asus LED LCD.
The OP asked if these marks are an indication of reduced reliability of the screens, i.e. they're defective so they're going to fail sooner. To answer, I don't think there's enough history/data for anybody to answer that question with certainty yet, but I've seen the same marks on my Nexus One AMOLED screen and the GSII AMOLED screen, so I'd venture to say no, reliability is not likely to be negatively affected.
Pops_G said:
....Sometimes ignorance is bliss....
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The bold part is one of the best advices and can apply to many aspects in life as on hardware.
Pops_G said:
PS. Want to sell a 24" Asus LED LCD.
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Interested to get that "faulty" ghosting led lcd out of your hands. Price please?
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The OP asked if these marks are an indication of reduced reliability of the screens, i.e. they're defective so they're going to fail sooner. To answer, I don't think there's enough history/data for anybody to answer that question with certainty yet, but I've seen the same marks on my Nexus One AMOLED screen and the GSII AMOLED screen, so I'd venture to say no, reliability is not likely to be negatively affected.
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Thank you maxh. I agree with you. I said it also that is too early to tell, but the reason I made this whole thread is so someone with some engineering expertises would reply to ease my concerns.
But it seems that is not a reliability issue from all the replies, even if I believe none of us is professionally certified to answer that. Time will tell.
In the meantime let's all enjoy our humongous SGS2 on steroids!
Colour depth
I am having doubts that the screen on the Note is 16M / 24bit colour depth.
GSMArena states the colour depth is 16M.
This is a link to a website with a 24bit png gradient and an explanation of screen bit depth: Gradient
Looking at it on the note, there is banding characteristic of 16bit, which doesn't show up on my pc's screen.
I tried png & jpg gradients i made in photoshop and all had banding on the Note.
Oh well, what was I expecting on a handset?
I guess GSMArena got my hopes up.
As per the Title
Our country only offers the S6 and S6 Edge in Black and White.
I'll be picking mine up tomorrow
Which colour would be better and why?
Thanks:good:
From what I saw in reviews and comments, white is less prone to fingerprints and smudges, or at least that you can't see them as much
Black because I think it looks more "professional" and I think it looks better in the dark, as you will see all screen and no bezel.
You don't really need to start a new poll for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/s6-edge-colors-availability-t3044109
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/galaxy-s6-black-white-t3067430
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/samsung-galaxy-s6-color-t3043646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/black-sapphire-versus-traditional-black-t3071324
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There is already a thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/samsung-galaxy-s6-color-t3043646
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Hey guys!
My Graphite color nexus 6P looks really nice while in direct light. It looks as you see in most photos on the web. But while it is inside a room with dim light it seems to get a faint tint of purple. As in the graphite turns a little bit in purple. It might be from the light or from the colors it reflects from around it but I am not sure. Does this happen to any of you?
Best regards!
Ok, you need to stop this, now.
This forum is not here for your EVERY ocd about the color of this device. This is the SECOND thread you've opened regarding the color.
"The color in dim light looks ______ " are you serious? This is a post on xda? I can't even anymore.
Soulfly3 said:
Ok, you need to stop this, now.
This forum is not here for your EVERY ocd about the color of this device. This is the SECOND thread you've opened regarding the color.
"The color in dim light looks ______ " are you serious? This is a post on xda? I can't even anymore.
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Not trying to be rude. But what am I doing wronge, if I make ? i am asking something about the quality of the phone. Something that I consider odd. Trust me I searched before about this and found nothing. That's why I am asking. Maybe someone with the same question wil also find this thread useful.
With all respect but I do not think ai did anything wrong.
I am still waiting for a competent answer
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the color changing in different light has to do with "the quality of the phone"?
Are you kidding me?
You were ready to do a second RMA on your device because you thought the color of your PERFECTLY FUNCTIONING fingerprint scanner was slightly (but you werent sure) different than the rest of the device.
And now you're ready to do it again, because of the way the color changes in different light? This is why the RMA process is becoming harder and harder. Pure abuse.
This is pretty stupid.
I think you should put a matte black dbrand skin on yours and call it a day. Or return it and get a different color other than purple. Or put it in a box where light can't escape or enter. Of all the things people have been critical about on this phone, this one is quite somethin
Here it's kinda purple: https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/img_20151019_133436.jpg?w=1024
But it's grey here! http://www.androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Nexus-6-vs-Nexus-6P-AH-8.jpg
Here's it looking like a black hole: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nexus-6p-12.jpg
A different shade here: http://i.imgur.com/Pwp8R35.png
tysj said:
I think you should put a matte black dbrand skin on yours and call it a day. Or return it and get a different color other than purple. Or put it in a box where light can't escape or enter. Of all the things people have been critical about on this phone, this one is quite somethin
Here it's kinda purple: https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/img_20151019_133436.jpg?w=1024
But it's grey here! http://www.androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Nexus-6-vs-Nexus-6P-AH-8.jpg
Here's it looking like a black hole: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nexus-6p-12.jpg
A different shade here: http://i.imgur.com/Pwp8R35.png
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It is actually that is pretty noticeable. Especially in dim light rooms. Trust me, I am not making this up.
Michael Ilie said:
It is actually that is pretty noticeable. Especially in dim light rooms. Trust me, I am not making this up.
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We all know you are not making this up, but you are creating various threads that point out a non-issue (as it does not affect the quality, and functionality under normal circumstances). Put simply, different materials reflect light differently and the quality of light also may change how humans perceive color.
I don't believe this thread is out there to help anyone with a similar question. Your previous thread asked a very similar question and you will be getting similar answers in this thread (or so I believe). If I am correct and you receive similar comments this means you are spamming the forum and that's what you're doing wrong.
I think you study how light absorbs, reflects, and transmits.
Enough said.
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It is actually that is pretty noticeable. Especially in dim light rooms. Trust me, I am not making this up.
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Doesn't matter if your making it up or not.
If its an issue that affects you, then handle it how you see fit.
Posting here, asking if it happens to anyone else (twice now) is really irrelevant. If it bothers you enough, handle it, what others think shouldn't matter.
Put a case on it, return it, whatever.
Obviously its an issue for you. So fix it.
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enough said.
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this is the best answer lolololol
Maybe you should just get a different phone. First the fingerprint scanner and now this. Not to mention no one's answer in the other thread you started was good enough for you to realize you're phone is fine. All you're seeing is the reflection of light off the phone. Nothing wrong with the phone at all. Light is comprised of every color on the spectrum (ROYGBIV). Your eyes simply see different colors based on the angle of the reflection and the intensity of the light. Once again. There is nothing wrong with you're phone. If you can't accept it then go buy a different phone. Nuff said.
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Wow
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Well I used up all my Thanks for the day in this thread. THANKS for the lulz, boys.
Hi guys
I am planning to buy 6p but reading many articles,many users have reported that their 6p have considerably yellower diplays when compared to other phone.
so pls tell me is this a issue with only few units or its present on every 6p and a hardware issue
Thanks in adavnce
Woops. Hit thanks on accident. I have nothing useful to post here sorry.
sjandroiddeveloper said:
Hi guys
I am planning to buy 6p but reading many articles,many users have reported that their 6p have considerably yellower diplays when compared to other phone.
so pls tell me is this a issue with only few units or its present on every 6p and a hardware issue
Thanks in adavnce
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I'm on my eighth 6P, and all have had tinting of the display to some degree. They all have it, it's due to the manufacturing process of AMOLED screens. Some are worse than others, it annoys some people and others don't see it or don't care.