I got my hands on an LG G3 (D851 TMOUS 32/3) and have used it for a solid day. Coming off of 8 months on the Moto X (AT&T 16), there are some big pros and cons on both sides. Here are some thoughts so far:
1. The LG G3 has a BIG screen! Seriously, the entire Moto X is about the size of the G3 screen. I actually giggled when I got the X back in my hand because it looked and felt so tiny. It's a similar feeling to going from the X to an iPhone.
2. The G3 is big but much more manageable than the Note 3 or Oneplus One. The shape of the G3 is similar to the X but not quite as contoured. Still, the X (and HTC M7) really set the standard for ergonomics with the curved back. One of the things that makes the Note 3 & 1+1 so hard for me to use is that they are big flat slabs. The Moto X has spoiled my hand and the G3 fit very nicely. It was still a 1 hand device for me and I enjoyed using it.
3. The Moto X has a low res screen. There's simply no way around that. Of course, I'm comparing a bleeding edge 2014 phone to a 2012-spec'd phone, but you'll never notice a pixel on your Moto X (or Nexus 5) until you pick up the G3. I actually said "Wow!" multiple times while turning the G3 on during the day.
4. LG "simplicity" vs Moto simplicity. One of the big things LG said they did with the G3 was simplify the whole UI. While it's certainly simple compared to the G2, it's not in same league as the Moto X. The simplicity of the Moto X "Vanilla" easily beats out the G3 for ease of use and lightness. The G3 lags more than the X (which isn't much but it's there) and is much more complicated as far as tweaking goes. This really played into my modding tendencies but the straight-forward approach of the X won out. That being said, the LG UI feels infinitely more modern and makes the X feel frumpy and dated. Thank goodness for Nova!
5. Features/Gimmicks. The G3 is packed with features and many of them are actually useful. The IR blaster is great and works with my dinosaur Vizio TV. It's nice to have Qi charging back. The knock feature is actually really cool, and all the customizable UI elements are great. By far the best feature of the G3 is the removable battery and micro SD support. This is seriously nice to have back, no matter what anyone says. When you fly 10,000 miles a month like I do, it's nice to be able to have movies and music with you. The replaceable battery is nice for the same reason.
6. Battery life. I'm a power user and the battery life is the same. The G3 is maybe 5% better at best.
7. Thermal throttling. Yes, it happened right away with my G3. My brightness got knocked 10% and the device became very laggy as it was installing my apps (about 30)
8. Build quality. Both of these phones are excellent. The materials on the G3 are very nice and don't leave me wanting anything more.
9. Speaker. The G3 speaker blew me away. It's even better and louder than the Moto X speaker. Points to LG for that one. The speaker was one of the major downfalls of the N5 IMO.
10. Button placement. The button placement on the G3 actually makes a lot of sense and I prefer it to the Moto X setup.
11. Camera. The camera on the G3 focuses very fast and the OIS does wonders for phone photography. That being said, it isn't that much better than the X and honestly let me down a bit.
At the end of the day, the G3 is the second best phone I've ever used. It wasn't compelling enough for me to leave the Moto X just yet, not because the G3 is flawed, but because the X is just that good. I'm astounded!
Hopefully this is helpful/interesting to someone out there. I'm happy to answer any more questions.
I was playing with the G3 today and it is an excellent phone. I would have thought that the large size would be off-putting, but that slight curvature of the back really helps with the ergonomics.
I disagree with 2 points:
LG's UI is more simplified than the previous iterations, but it's still a little too cluttered. To me, it's a step towards Touchwiz, which is definitely a step in the wrong direction, at least IMO.
The speaker quality didn't seem as good as my X. Volume was fairly equal, but the sound was not nearly as full. It still destroys the G2/N5 speaker, though.
I was really surprised that I didn't notice any 2D scrolling slowdown, though. I thought the 1440p screen would really tax the SD 801 processor in that regard, but it held up fine for me.
If the Moto X+1 weren't coming out in a couple months I'd jump ship to LG.
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4. LG "simplicity" vs Moto simplicity. One of the big things LG said they did with the G3 was simplify the whole UI. While it's certainly simple compared to the G2, it's not in same league as the Moto X. The simplicity of the Moto X "Vanilla" easily beats out the G3 for ease of use and lightness. The G3 lags more than the X (which isn't much but it's there) and is much more complicated as far as tweaking goes. This really played into my modding tendencies but the straight-forward approach of the X won out. That being said, the LG UI feels infinitely more modern and makes the X feel frumpy and dated. Thank goodness for Nova!
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I was just reading a review about the G3 and they mentioned that the phone lags. I'm still in disbelief that a 2.5Ghz quad core can lag in comparison to our 1.7 dual core. Granted I'm sure that it's the UI and the screen on the G3 more than the SOC. But much credit needs to be given to moto for optimizing the X to run smooth as butter in 2014 with 2012 specs.
Thanks for the awesome review.
erikiksaz said:
I was playing with the G3 today and it is an excellent phone. I would have thought that the large size would be off-putting, but that slight curvature of the back really helps with the ergonomics.
I disagree with 2 points:
LG's UI is more simplified than the previous iterations, but it's still a little too cluttered. To me, it's a step towards Touchwiz, which is definitely a step in the wrong direction, at least IMO.
The speaker quality didn't seem as good as my X. Volume was fairly equal, but the sound was not nearly as full. It still destroys the G2/N5 speaker, though.
I was really surprised that I didn't notice any 2D scrolling slowdown, though. I thought the 1440p screen would really tax the SD 801 processor in that regard, but it held up fine for me.
If the Moto X+1 weren't coming out in a couple months I'd jump ship to LG.
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I had actually planned on grabbing an n5 today as an upgrade for my gnex because I didn't really feel happy with the g3 reviews, but this almost changes my mind.
Was gonna get an n5 until something more solid came around
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I had actually planned on grabbing an n5 today as an upgrade for my gnex because I didn't really feel happy with the g3 reviews, but this almost changes my mind.
Was gonna get an n5 until something more solid came around
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I think the G3 trumps the N5 in basically every area. I owned an N5 for a couple months too. There's nothing better about the N5 except the updates directly from Google and the low price tag. I think the G3 will be a fairly dev friendly device once it's released.
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I think the G3 trumps the N5 in basically every area. I owned an N5 for a couple months too. There's nothing better about the N5 except the updates directly from Google and the low price tag. I think the G3 will be a fairly dev friendly device once it's released.
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I understand the g3 is better in all aspects, but I don't know if I want to all in on this phone. I was thinking of just grabbing a n5 and waiting with that until some more phones came out.
Does that make sense.
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I understand the g3 is better in all aspects, but I don't know if I want to all in on this phone. I was thinking of just grabbing a n5 and waiting with that until some more phones came out.
Does that make sense.
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Yes that totally makes sense. I still think the X is better than the N5 though.
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Yes that totally makes sense. I still think the X is better than the N5 though.
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Really? My roommate just got an x, which is how I got to this topic. I understand how optimised it is, and it seems awesome.
Are there any specific things that it does better than the n5?
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11. Camera. The camera on the G3 focuses very fast and the OIS does wonders for phone photography. That being said, it isn't that much better than the X and honestly let me down a bit.
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The camera is the only thing I would want this phone for. Glad I read this. I'll wait for the X+1 and 360.
uurrnn said:
Really? My roommate just got an x, which is how I got to this topic. I understand how optimised it is, and it seems awesome.
Are there any specific things that it does better than the n5?
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Yes they both have their plusses and minuses but I feel the X has the edge. Here's just a few points on each:
Moto X:
+Better battery life
+Louder speakers
+Better signal
+Screen/device size (IMO)
+Touchless control
+Active display
+Trusted devices
-Little to no dev community (depends on model)
-Some models can't be rooted/unlocked
-720p is showing its age
Nexus 5:
+1080p
+Direct updates from Google (Moto X has kept up well)
+Massive dev community
-Poor battery life
-No VZW option (if that matters)
-Bad speakers (low volume & quality)
-Less hardware custom options (if that matters)
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Yes they both have their plusses and minuses but I feel the X has the edge. Here's just a few points on each:
Moto X:
+Better battery life
+Louder speakers
+Better signal
+Screen/device size (IMO)
+Touchless control
+Active display
+Trusted devices
-Little to no dev community (depends on model)
-Some models can't be rooted/unlocked
-720p is showing its age
Nexus 5:
+1080p
+Direct updates from Google (Moto X has kept up well)
+Massive dev community
-Poor battery life
-No VZW option (if that matters)
-Bad speakers (low volume & quality)
-Less hardware custom options (if that matters)
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Oh yeah the X is awesome all around, I just don't know how much the 720p will affect me, plus Android L on the n5 is very tempting.
I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
Looks good from the front but has those stupid looking controls at the back which kind of ruins the overall appearance as I like my phones elegant and conservative.
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I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
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Going by how rubbish the call quality was on the N5, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just as bad on the G3.
One lesson I learned from owning the LG made N5, I NEVER buy LG phones, not even consider them.
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I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
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1. The IPS panel on the G3 is fantastic but the phone is calibrated to keep the display dim if left on auto, probably due to heat & battery. The touch sensitivity is better on the X but both are way better than the iPhone. I love both display technologies for different reasons. It's contrast vs clarity. The G3 doesn't have the contrast or intensity of the X, but the X doesn't have the color clarity or accuracy of the G3. The G3 seems easier on the eyes.
2. Call quality is great! I would say it's on par with the X although the G3 doesn't have the signal strength of the X.
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Wutang200 said:
Looks good from the front but has those stupid looking controls at the back which kind of ruins the overall appearance as I like my phones elegant and conservative.
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Going by how rubbish the call quality was on the N5, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just as bad on the G3.
One lesson I learned from owning the LG made N5, I NEVER buy LG phones, not even consider them.
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Lol, thanks. Kinda same here with me, when I first called my home from my friend's N5 it was like WTF! I asked him to increase the volume as even at highest it was sounding like crap. Then when the call connected the quality was pretty below average too. I think LG needs to do a much better job.
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1. The IPS panel on the G3 is fantastic but the phone is calibrated to keep the display dim if left on auto, probably due to heat & battery. The touch sensitivity is better on the X but both are way better than the iPhone. I love both display technologies for different reasons. It's contrast vs clarity. The G3 doesn't have the contrast or intensity of the X, but the X doesn't have the color clarity or accuracy of the G3. The G3 seems easier on the eyes.
2. Call quality is great! I would say it's on par with the X although the G3 doesn't have the signal strength of the X.
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Thanks. Well seems like you definitely missed the contrast of X but at the same time you liked the clarity of the G3, which is kinda surprising (or not!), cause I am still not sure how human eye can see the difference for anything above 350 PPI! I mean I have moved from an S4 to X, a 1080p to 720p, and to be honest I don't see much difference, if any at all. And I am kinda obsessed with displays as well, I don't like the X's display because of it's infamous cross hatch pattern (or whatever it is called, the Pentile problem) but I guess I will live with it. I have thought about moving from OLED to normal / standard IPS based panels a lot of time, then I had the M7 after selling the S4 for about two weeks and the display was horrible, the dullest display I have ever seen. With AMOLED you can have decent amount of saturation and colour accuracy with a different profile, I am exampling S5 here, not anything else, I have seen my colleague's G900F and with Cinema preset it's really decent, I mean for people who prefers accurate colours and less saturation, but at the same time I can switch back to normal, over vivid mode if I want to. Personal preference I suppose. But this AMOLED fantasy of mine have kept me from using a lot of good phones, you know M8, Z2 etc., yeah they all are monstrous in size that's another reason, still.
Oh and thanks for clearing the call quality factor, seems like LG has learnt a lesson from Nexus 5.
Moto X uses an RGB pattern... Not anything pentile btw. Though you do roll the dice getting a screen that doesn't have some color shift halfway down the screen or whatever.
I actually sold my Nexus 5 after I got the moto x because it just sat in a box. This is the only device I've used that wasn't a Nexus since the Nexus S came out, and I have used other flagships.
Nothing really quite beats the ergonomics, size, quality (speakers, touch, antennas, etc) and subtle software features of the Moto X. In my mind it's the best android phone ever built. If they would have shoehorned a 1080p Amoled at 4.7in and little bigger battery, and wireless charging at the time it would probably be the greatest phone ever made period.
With my Nexus 5 I luckily never had the sound problem you guys describe, but perhaps that was because I have T-Mobile and HD voice. My friends on ATT hated the call quality over the speaker on their N5. To me the phone was just too big (and I'm 6'3), not nearly as ergonomic, and was just basic compared to the X. I prefer the screen of the nexus, and I actually got the same or better battery life.
I just can't go without the sensors in the X and the touch less controls and active notifications. The X+1 should have no problem doing better on that front because their sensors plus the newer snapdragons should be great on battery. This is why I'm personally going to wait for the moto x successor even though it's no doubt fallen into the bigger-screen-is-better bull crap.
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3. The Moto X has a low res screen. There's simply no way around that. Of course, I'm comparing a bleeding edge 2014 phone to a 2012-spec'd phone, but you'll never notice a pixel on your Moto X (or Nexus 5) until you pick up the G3. I actually said "Wow!" multiple times while turning the G3 on during the day.
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I contest this statement. "Low-Res" is a huge exaggeration because the order of magnitude from 720x1280 to 1440x2560 is 4x the difference in pixel density overall when we're still manufacturing phones that are 480x800 at 4.5 inches and 10 inch tablets that are 768x1366. Having the G3 doesn't automatically make the Moto X 'low-res' but that it makes the G3 'hi-res' by comparison to the rest of the market.
I just tried a HTC One M8 for two days and returned it to go back to my MotoX.
I was looking for removable storage, and a bit larger and brighter screen. The HTC M* has all that, but it has so much crud from HTC and AT&T that I can't see how anyone uses it stock.
I had an LG Optimus G prior to my Moto X. They both have 4.7 inch screen, but the LG had capacitive buttons. The extra screen space that the on screen buttons take up is noticeable in everyday use.
I am looking forward to the Moto X+1, hopefully it will answer all of my concerns that I have with the MotoX. But after using the MotoX it will be hard to give up active notifications, touchless control and moto assist.
There is also a great gulf between the Dev Edition and any phone that is branded for a carrier. The stuff that the manufacturers and carriers shove down your throat is beyond annoying.
Nice review and thanks! I thought I read somewhere that US-spec G3's didn't include Qi? Am I going nuts [don't answer this one!]?
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Nice review and thanks! I thought I read somewhere that US-spec G3's didn't include Qi? Am I going nuts [don't answer this one!]?
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I'm not sure what the official phone will have but this one definitely worked on my Qi pad. I believe it's all in the back cover anyways so you could easily swap if needed.
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After having issues with the N5's very poor call quality as well as sending double texts to my recipients. 10 replacements later and I've decided to switch to a Moto X.
Specs wise, I wouldn't say it's an upgrade from the Nexus 5 but not a downgrade either.
The O/S is nice and clean with just a few useful features added by Motorola.
Absolutely loving the Active Notifications, Motorola Connect (text from my Chrome), Motorola Assist etc. They're so useful.
Best feature is the voice recognition. It's so accurate it's scary lol. Much more accurate than the Nexus 5.
Best of all, call quality is superb!
The screen is smaller but my thumb used to often struggle to reach certain parts of the Nexus 5 screen which I don't have to worry about any more. I think it's a good balance between size and comfort.
The speaker is miles louder than the one in my N5. Massive difference!!
The phone feels fluid as the N5.
There's only one area I've noticed any slowness so far. That's in restoring my 16000+ text messages using SMS Backup & Restore. It took a fair bit longer than my N5 did. Not a big deal though as only needed to do it once.
I've got a usable phone and some money in my pocket on top. Can't complain.
Oh that Motorola Migrate feature didn't work for me when I tried it. Only tried it once though.
Most of my stuff is in the cloud anyway.
I do miss the wireless charging though but it's a loss I was willing to take as the Moto X benefits far outweigh the need to move away from the N5.
There should not be any difference in voice recognition as both phones rely on Google for that. I haven't noticed any difference between the two. ( Moto X is slightly better at picking up voice in noisy environment from little more distance. That's about it. Might have something to do with microphone quality. But when nexus 5 is held close, they're is virtually no difference in accuracy)
But yeah, Other than more consistent camera on nexus 5 after the update, I would take Moto X over nexus 5 any given day. In fact I came from Nexus 5 to moto x. I never really had any of the voice quality issues on nexus 5 either but overall I like the feel of Moto X. And love the active notifications.
From my Moto X, in your face!
I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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When friends and family see mine and my wife's phones (me n5 now, her moto x) and they ask if I recommend them, my advice is always the same.
Moto x if you just want a great and smooth phone.
N5 if they are techy and may want to mess with the phone.
Thats my standard advice. They are both great phones....but for the non techy, the moto x is definitely the best choice. ?
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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For the "everything on" people perhaps you are right....not miles though...but the x is probably a bit better.
But...I have both, and both get over 24 hours on a charge, and both can get over 6 hours screen time. With most things off of course. And greenified, and screen not too bright. I guess the x is slightly better on average for me...but only slightly. Oh...and I rarely use the "phone"....I'm a texter. ?
If set up for maximum battery life...both are excellent. But many want everything on....so they will lose more battery for sure. Much more.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I previously had a developer edition moto x one of the first on here to get one and then I bought into the nexus 5 hype and am back to a moto X. It is an all around better phone than the N5. No its ands or butts. Also to concur with the previous poster the voice recognition is better on the X because of the dedicated speech engine. The X has the perfect ergonomics just as fluid and fast, screen is actually better inho and the speaker is miles better. I get just as good pica from my X than the supposedly better n5. The only thing the N5 camera truly has on it is the OIS. Lastly motos extras are worth the price of admission all by themselves.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I compared the speaker quality with my partners HTC 8X (which comes with Beats Audio) and mine actually sounds like it has a slightly higher frequency making treble sound like it's going to pop out. Very clear! The volume is just as loud as hers.
I unwillingly came from a N5 by dropping it and shattering the screen. Had been eyeing the moto x for a bit and decided to pick a like-new condition used one for cheap. Boy am I glad that I did. On paper everyone knocks it, but in actuality it's probably the best android phone I have ever used out of the box. No stock experience is as good, and this is my 7th android phone since 2009. Voice recognition is better hands down because of the dedicated processor. Active display is by far one of the best features out of any android device today. Form factor is excellent (N5 was good but ever so slightly too big for me), voice quality is better (both on speaker and off).
Battery life on STOCK Moto X is as good as my N5 was when I was rooted, underclocking, undervolting, except I have everything turned on (location, auto brightness, touchless controls, active display, etc. etc.).
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but still took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but so took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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in my opinion the Nexus 5 is much better than the Motorola X, a much faster and with 2 cores more, better gpu for gaming and graphics, better display quality and higher definition processor, I just think that the Motorola x is better in voice prompts and little gross ... but in comparison the Nexus 5 takes the cake ... the processor is noted and much, greetings
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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... No...
See my post #12 right above yours on the same page.
The points I made have nothing to do with specs, just actual usage. Things that will actually make the experience of using the phone measurably different for a non-technical user.
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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I agree with you as I noticed the same things.
I couldn't use my N5 as a phone as nobody could ever hear me the microphone quality is that bad. Most of the time I couldn't even hear them so a majority of each call was spent shouting hello to each other.
I've not noticed any speed difference between the N5 and Moto X. Browsing through the menus is very smooth and fluid, opening apps is almost instant, web page browsing is just the same too. Only difference was when restoring a high number of text messages which is where the N5 came into it's own.
But doing every day tasks such as phone calls, adding memos, adding calendar entries, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter, WhatApp, taking photos, etc, there is no difference at all that I've noticed.
If I were just given the N5 and Moto X to play with without being given the spec of either, I wouldn't be able to tell any difference in speed.
Also it's the most comfortable phone I've ever owned by a mile. No longer need both hands to operate the phone like I had to do with the N5. Screen size is perfect for me.
I have a question for you guys that had both: which camera is better?
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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Nicely said.
Looks like the Moto X may be a keeper with a 5.2" screen.
Looks very pleasant. Concerned a little bit about the battery size though
Same about the battery, big concern if this thing cant last a whole day. Should be at least a 2700mAh battery with a screen over 5 inches. Unless moto made some big changes to background software for the battery (and the L preview's project volte being a battery saver), I might just wait and see.
No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
i'm very interested in seeing the actual performance of this phone. i have high hopes for the camera and additional functionality they're claiming. all-in-all i'll have to hold it before i make my decision.
Currently a Note 2 user, I was pleased to see the size increase on the Moto X. I'm concerned abotu the battery, though. Right now I'm torn between the Note 4, LG G3, Moto X, and Nexus 6/X.
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No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
Maybe?
Very disappointed to see the increased size, though it was inevitable.. I have been looking forward to this phone for months because of the innovation and engineering that went into the original moto x. Using separate processing elements for different parts of the phone is, I think, the absolute key to the battery life/functionality equation. I've been waiting for a company to split the UI and external features (screen, mics, cameras, etc..) off from the core phone functionality to save juice for a long time. When the screen is off, there should be little need to run the main processor, and therefore it should be kinder to its battery. I do need to know if this unit will have a replaceable battery, unfortunately its a complete no-go for me if it doesn't..
Hoping for the best!:good:
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
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Thanks that's useful to hear as that's quite a key requirement for me with a phone.
I was thinking about replacing my rooted GS4 with this one but I wonder whats coming down the pipe from the Nexus and LG
If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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If there is a Dev edition then I'll buy immediately.
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If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014 XT1092 unlocked version, including sprint
I like the size increase. I would rather it stayed at 5 inch screen instead of 5.2 but the battery size should have been bumped to 2600. Even if they are going to release a Moto Maxx version with a 3000 battery. Not sure if I will get this now or wait until the Nexus X before I ditch my VZW unlimited for greener pastures.
let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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I'll probably wait to see what the next nexus phone is and then make a decision. Hopefully by then, there will be more clarification on what the Moto maXx is . I'd really like a 2014 Moto X with a larger capacity battery. For me that's the only thing it's really missing.
I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
the new X is a good 1-2mm thinner than the old one at the edges. i'd say there's room for a 4000mAh battery.
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I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
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That's great news for you then.
Way too big for my taste, and I've become a big Moto fan since owning the X. What ever happened to all that research done to come up with the original X being the perfect size? Hope they do a blow out sale on the original X and I'll pick up a spare if the price is good. I understand the trend towards bigger phones, but all the Android manufacturers leaving behind high spec more compact models is VERY disappointing.
I'm really struggling with this one! Would really appreciate any other users' experiences between these two specific devices.
I have both sitting here and here are my initial thoughts:
--Thought the ergonomics of Moto X would be far superior to M8 due to weight and height, but actually doesn't feel any better.
--Cameras are a tough call: X has higher resolution (obviously, with 13MP vs. 4UMP) but M8 is quicker, and seems less "noisy" despite lower res.
--Active Notifications on X are a great concept, but I didn't realize they're motion-sensitive. I have it sitting on the armchair of the sofa next to me, and every time I move even a tiny bit, the screen comes to life. A bit annoying.
--Love the near-stock experience of the X. Also REALLY, REALLY love Trusted Bluetooth Devices on X! This is huge. (I know this can be done via 3rd party app on M8, but not if you utilize a pattern lock).
--Biggest gripe: the AMOLED screen on X has nice, deep colors, but I find the classic AMOLED discoloration (warm, yellowish-green tint) to be highly pronounced and IMO, really pollutes and detracts from the entire screen experience. Especially next to the M8.
Well, I don't have an m8 but have had an m7 for a long time. The only cons I can think of going from One to X are:
Only 1 front facing speaker
Amoled screen is amoled screen
Camera isn't as refined as far as ease of use, things like touching to refocus an area I still haven't figured out I just keep taking pictures...and agreed they can be grainy. But I'm one of those "I have an expensive DSLR that takes better photos" guys. If I'm going to a place I know I'll want photos of I bring it, if not the X will do.
No IR sensor for controlling things. Never really used it much for myself as much as I did to troll people at their houses messing with their stuff so that isn't a real con unless you like to troll.
Other than that the X is > in my opinion, but again I haven't had a 8 just a 7 not much changed so I still feel I can weight in on this.
Really just having moto assist is awesome. IIRC you can turn off moto display/actions (setting that handles hand gestures) so you don't have to worry about randomly triggering it while on the sofa.
The one thing I had to get used to was it acting like a notification LED. If I have one it will blink in and out slowly. Again it can be turned off but I'm growing to like it a lot.
Best part of all you already said. Near stock android experience!! With the promise of L shortly after it comes out! HTC will get L too but not til they reskin it, etc etc so X will get it faster and its still stock...soooooo...
I currently use the M8 and had the original X last year. I've owned the M8 since day one but am switching to the Moto X 2014. It has to do more with the originality as I'm customizing mine and the value adds Motorola builds into their software. Trusted Devices, Moto Voice and Display not to mention the Assist just were icing toppers. I believe this device well get software updates quickly like previous model and as recent outlets have demonstrated, the Moto is very durable. Battery life should be fine from posts I've seen here and my experience with the original X. I think Motorola does something with their governors to put the device in deep sleep quickly and ramp up CPU by anticipating with the sensors. It's a looker for sure and though I will sacrifice stereo speakers, Motorola for an exceptional job with call quality and service reception.
I have an M8 and my Moto X will be here in the next week hopefully. My main worries going to the X are worse speakers and worse battery life. Both are excellent on the M8.
Apparently the X speaker is almost on par with the M8's twin speaker setup. Very crisp sound and hardly any distortion. The reviews have all said the speaker is excellent.
I hate HTC Sense UI. It can be confusing and comes with extra stuff like Blinkfeed that I don't really like and am unable to uninstall.
Also the M8 gets updates much slower than the X.
The build quality is superior on the X. They did a bend test video comparing it against other models and they said the X had the best build quality.
M8's camera is slightly better though especially in low light. The aluminium body feels really nice too. If I had to buy one, the first thing I'd do is to get vanilla Android on it but it would void my warranty and require root.
I actually think Sense is the best Android UI out there. Even better than stock. More features, better design and more consistency over the whole thing. Maybe L will change that. However, the wait time for updates is probably gonna force me to sell my M8. Shame but 2.5 months just to get the 4.4.3 update is way too long.
I'll chime in. I had a m8 from release and while it is a great phone I prefer the x. I like the feel in my hand more. The way the glass curves into the phone is amazing and much MUCH less bezel on the x feels more polished. The camera from just testing for a week on the x is better but not miles better. Sound is on par a bit tinny but loud and full for the most part. I prefer a stock ui to a skin so that is a huge plus. Being on Verizon we don't have a nexus and honestly this is a real REAL close second. Now the bad about the x. Battery. On my m8 I could go an easy day. With the x I gotta be close to a charger at the end of a work day. I am a heavy user so your mileage will vary for sure.
How do the speakers fare between the two? That's the real question!
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I actually think Sense is the best Android UI out there. Even better than stock. More features, better design and more consistency over the whole thing. Maybe L will change that. However, the wait time for updates is probably gonna force me to sell my M8. Shame but 2.5 months just to get the 4.4.3 update is way too long.
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L is the actual release that has the UX very consistent, even more than KitKat. finally there is some consistency. i think L will look better than Sense when it releases
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I'll chime in. I had a m8 from release and while it is a great phone I prefer the x. I like the feel in my hand more. The way the glass curves into the phone is amazing and much MUCH less bezel on the x feels more polished....
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i agree with your thoughts on look and feel. i also like the slightly larger screen. I use 2 devices, the M8 for work and the Note 3 for everything else. i'm going to use the X as a work phone for 13-days and make a decision to keep my Note 3 or return the X. if the X came wth 64GB storage or had a microSD slot, i can say for sure the Note would be relegated to the phone drawer or eBay.
I found the M8 too tall, too heavy, and too loaded with both carrier (AT&T) and HTC bloat. The top power button was a PITA. I went back to my 2013 Moto X. The 2014 X has a bigger screen than the M8 in a more ergonomic, better looking, and smaller package.
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I found the M8 too tall, too heavy, and too loaded with both carrier (AT&T) and HTC bloat. The top power button was a PITA. I went back to my 2013 Moto X. The 2014 X has a bigger screen than the M8 in a more ergonomic, better looking, and smaller package.
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Exactly the same feelings here, also spent most of my time between the M8 and new Moto X with the last Moto X. The One M8 is beautiful, as is Sense 6, but it just isn't nearly as pleasant to use.
I have a M8 and X 2013.
Screen in M8 is absolutely beautiful. From that I have heard X 2014 screen is not anywhere closer to M8. That might be a deal breaker for me.
I do absolutely hate sense. But sense 6 is not too bad actually. Sense have come a long way last few years. However, I still prefer AOSP launcher.
Battery on M8 is huge compared to X 2013. I dont read that X 2014 is anywhere close to M8. That might be a deal breaker as well.
Traded in my M7 for the Moto X. The X has much better radios.
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How loud and clear are the speakers between the M8 and X?
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How loud and clear are the speakers between the M8 and X?
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The M8's speakers are the best of any smartphone on the market. Nothing else comes close in clarity and bass reproduction.
I guess it depends what is most important to you. The only M8 I would consider is the GPE, and the difference in price from the X would not be worth it.
I'm a bit late to this, but I thought I would throw in my 2 cents. For the record, I haven't received my new X yet (still being built) so the Moto X stuff I'm going to say will be based off reviews mostly and my previous 1st gen X. I have owned the M8, but I sold it to buy the Moto! If you're looking for awesome battery life, the M8 has the moto beat...I would finish the day (12-15hrs, moderate use, rooted using CleanROM) with 40-50% battery left. I have a feeling that the Moto won't get anywhere near that, nor do I even expect it to. I prefer OLED display much more compared to any other technology, the X is far superior to the M8 in that respect (personal opinion). I also had a problem with the backlight of my M8 becoming seperated from the LCD and causing a lot of bleed through on the bottom. Moto Voice and Active Display are far superior to the swipe actions you get with the M8, as far as ease of access of the phone. Sound quality of the M8 is amazing if you're an audiophile, both headphone and external speaker quality. The X has stock Android (almost), which is always a plus! You'll get L a lot sooner than HTC too! Also, from my experience, the duo camera on the HTC is pretty lack luster...I mean, it looks pretty neat physically, but the pictures it takes are mediocre at best. I'm not really expecting the Moto to be better, but I kind of expected more from the HTC.
If you are on Verizon, then at this point in I would get the m8. I am struggling with this now. I want a phone that I can switch roms and root. I have unlimited data so I am "stuck" with Verizon. I also like the m8 having a sd card slot where I can store 64gb worth of video /music for a $30 micro SD card. I don't like amoled, on my past phones I have had bad burn in. That all being said, I can't justifying buying a 7 month old device that had to last me 2 years. Hopefully Verizon wows me with something that is also unlockable or at least root able.
I've only briefly played with a 2014 X, and own a 2013. Now I own an M8....i have to say, the M8 blew me away and still does comparing to the 2013 X and N5. It's an amazing machine.
I can't compare everything to the 2014 X..... But they are probably close in many aspects.... Except battery life. I get 24 hours with 8+ screen hours on my M8....and from what I've seen in the battery thread here, the X doesn't touch it there.
One other thing that would make me lean towards 5he M8 is that development is booming. I doubt the X will get very busy comparatively.
So weigh your needs and wants and decide what is best for you. ?
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And lots of stable Aosp for the M8. With double tap to wake included.... Without battery drain. Bonus. ?
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Both unrooted.... Battery is probably the only big difference.
I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
I'm coming from a G2. It's a comparable size to the G2 and the battery seems similar so far.
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I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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I had a Razr Maxx HD, 4.7" screen. My brother currently has a G3 and I have the Turbo. I feel the screens are almost the same size because of his on screen buttons, although they do go away sometimes. But I feel like it's more or less the same anyway.
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I had a Razr Maxx HD, 4.7" screen. My brother currently has a G3 and I have the Turbo. I feel the screens are almost the same size because of his on screen buttons, although they do go away sometimes. But I feel like it's more or less the same anyway.
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Good point about the buttons!
Someone else posted the same exact thing. The biggest thing with Turbo is that it doesn't have on screen buttons, so it seems larger than the G3.
Does this help?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/Motorola-DROID-Turbo,LG-G3/phones/8956,8347
Droid Turbo is slightly shorter and narrower, but slightly thicker. The screen itself seems to be a bit shorter and narrower as well.
SGS3 user here. The Turbo is leaps and bounds better than my S3. My ultimate benchmark was to load GTA: San Andreas on both phones. The Turbo trounced the S3 in every aspect from installation time, to graphics settings. I had to run all low settings to even get a playable game on the S3 and the Turbo could max everything (except "car detail" was turned down to "normal" because I was getting a slight decrease in FPS). Installation time of apps in general is noticeably faster as well. The only bottleneck is my internet. The color on the Turbo is much better as well. I never noticed how blue the screen on my S3 was until I compared it to the Turbo. I have a mostly white wallpaper and the Turbos whites are outstanding. The only things I miss about my S3 are the removable battery (ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery FTW) and root capability. I love Xposed-- I stopped using custom ROMS because of Gravity Box paired with CM11. Hopefully someone will come out with a good root method. If that happens, I will never look back.
How is the screen brightness compared to the SGS3?
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SGS3 user here. The Turbo is leaps and bounds better than my S3. My ultimate benchmark was to load GTA: San Andreas on both phones. The Turbo trounced the S3 in every aspect from installation time, to graphics settings. I had to run all low settings to even get a playable game on the S3 and the Turbo could max everything (except "car detail" was turned down to "normal" because I was getting a slight decrease in FPS). Installation time of apps in general is noticeably faster as well. The only bottleneck is my internet. The color on the Turbo is much better as well. I never noticed how blue the screen on my S3 was until I compared it to the Turbo. I have a mostly white wallpaper and the Turbos whites are outstanding. The only things I miss about my S3 are the removable battery (ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery FTW) and root capability. I love Xposed-- I stopped using custom ROMS because of Gravity Box paired with CM11. Hopefully someone will come out with a good root method. If that happens, I will never look back.
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I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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Only because I am a complete and absolute genius have I been able to solve your problem for you.... if the droid turbo screen is too small for you, buy a NEXUS 6.
... its the same phone, but bigger screen -- 6".
I'm coming from a Droid DNA.
And right now, I'm having buyer's remorse. Not loving it yet.
Just got the Turbo yesterday as a work phone, previous work phone being an HTC One M7. I like it a lot so far but I'm really hoping to see at least root on this.
Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
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I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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I've heard a couple of people say this now, and it just sounds weird to me. Too small? Are you coming from a tablet?
IMHO, 5.2" is just marginally too large.
My criteria are, must be able to hold phone in one hand, supporting bottom with pinky (so it doesn't slide out) and reach 100% of screen surface area using only the thumb of the hand the phone is being held in.
If I ever have to use both hands in order to use my phone, I consider it to be a fail.
I got used to the LG G2's 5.2" screen before this, but reaching the far end (top opposite side of thumb) of the screen is a stretch without shifting the phone in my hand (and risking dropping it) even in my rather large hands.
An ideal screen size for my hands would probably be just a smidge smaller, in the 4.8" to 5.0" range somewhere.
I recall the 4.8" screen in my old Galaxy S3 feeling just about perfect in use.
I wish they would stop making the high end phones only in these crazy large tablet sizes. I was looking forward to the Nexus 6, but it was WAAAAAY too big. Settled on the Droid Turbo, even though it is a little large.
Came from the 2013 Moto G Verizon 3G 8GB variant.
Prior was
Droid 4
Droid 3
Droid 1
I'd get a Droid 5 if it came out >.>;;;
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I'm coming from a Droid DNA.
And right now, I'm having buyer's remorse. Not loving it yet.
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I've got a DNA now and am seriously looking at the turbo if you miss it that bad I'll trade you ? is it that you miss sense possibly
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Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
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It's hard for me to find a phone I really like. I upgraded from the G3, but the battery life really isn't that much better. Granted my G3 was rooted, debloated, and had lots of battery life tweaks, the camera is worse on the Turbo and I prefer the more accurate LCD of the G3 over the oversaturated and warm Turbo.
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How is the screen brightness compared to the SGS3?
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Actually as soon as I got the phone I noticed that my S3 was brighter, by quite a bit. Inside, the turbo is fine, but I fear that it might be pretty terrible in sunlight.
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Just got the Turbo yesterday as a work phone, previous work phone being an HTC One M7. I like it a lot so far but I'm really hoping to see at least root on this.
Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
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What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
I came from a Razr M. Lol. This screen seems huge to me, but very good.
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What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
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Definitely the back buttons in combo with double-tap-to-wake.
It's also really nice having the removable back to add wireless charging and removable battery.
Plus I think the Droid lineup has worn out the Kevlar look, it's getting kind of cheesy. But it's a noticeably solid phone and I don't feel that I could break it easily like I do with my G3
jdougal11 said:
What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
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This is what I like about the G3 over the Turbo:
5.5" display over a 5.2" display, in a phone just ever so slightly larger
On screen buttons
Better WiFi signal strength
More comfortable to hold, and easier to slide in and out of my pocket
Root. And better dev support so far
Much better rear camera, and OIS
More accurate IPS LCD, whites are white and not a slight yellow tint
MicroSD slot and removable battery
Doubletap to wake
And this is what I like better about the DROID Turbo:
Wireless charging included
Feels more durable and substantial
Active display
Wider and better quality front facing camera
Slightly better battery life
More grippier to hold, less chance of falling
Turbo charging
SIM card is easily removable
Display has a wider viewing angle
Brighter display and more saturated
No "oversharpening" problem
So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
stastnysnipes26 said:
Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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See I'm not all about specs and hardware, more about personal user experience with the device. Accidents happen, I took really good care of my Nexus 5 but it fell out of my hands because of someone else mucking about around me.
The Nexus 6 is way too big for me. I loved using my Nexus 5 and I would happily buy it again but the Moto X looks very appealing. I'm all about stock android so.
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
Thedonk13 said:
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
When I had my 2013 moto x, I decided to try the Nexus 5. Bought it, it arrived, toyed with it for 5 mins, then promptly put it back in the box to sell it to a friend. I thought the 2013 X was better than the N5 off usability features alone. The 2014 X completely dominates the N5.
Better ergonomics
WAYYYYYY better speakers
Better reception
Customizable
Moto Display+Voice
The only thing the N5 has over the X is the well-calibrated LCD screen.
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
Thedonk13 said:
Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Yeah, N5 would have such a hard time keeping up with LTE. I was mostly on HSPA+ because radio pretty much sucked.
I am coming from M8 as well and X may not have the same quality and deepness, but it's very very loud and surprises you at times for being just one speaker. Equalizer is pretty good by default on X as well.
I love the texting from Chrome browser and the X talking to me while driving. Oh and sleep mode saves your screen some energy by not turning it on at all if put screen down or in night mode. Software features are actually useful unlike gimmicks IMHO.
Thedonk13 said:
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
RawrLikeADino said:
Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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The Pure edition gives us an unlockable bootloader, because the AT&T and Verizon models are locked down. I'm not sure how it works across the pond though, as long as you can unlock your bootloader than you're golden.
Both are amazing, in my opinion the Moto X is the Nexus 5 2.0
Better specs all around (albeit nothing to write home about it), better battery life and touchless control its superb
RawrLikeADino said:
You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
Exactly my debate a month ago. I've got a thread on here someplace about it. It came down to price vs quality and customization. I got the .edu discount (alumni account), so the difference was about $125 on a 32 GB. At that, the X with a wood back was worth it to me. If $ are tight, I think the Nexus 5 is the best option. If $ are tighter than that, then the Moto G (we have a couple of those in our household as well).
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
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I totally agree that the X feels nicer than the M8. I honestly wasn't all that impressed with the M8. It kinda gives off a "hey look at me, I'm metal" vibe without actually being all that nice. Like it's made out of aluminum just for the sake of being made out of aluminum, for bragging rights, if that makes sense. There just isn't anything special about it... and those godawful bezels, ugh. The Moto X on the other hand is just... elegant. It's very mature, and no part of its design is superfluous. I keep saying it and I'll keep on saying it- the Moto X is the nicest smartphone ever made.
On a side note, my friend just got the One E8 which is essentially just a polycarbonate version of the M8 and I like it a heckuva lot more than the M8. I think it looks nicer and feels nicer than its aluminum brother.
The Moto X is like a Nexus 5.5. Physically a big step up from the Nexus 5, feels premium. If the Nexus 6 size puts you off a great successor. Outside of a Nexus there is no other manufacturer that will truly give you a stock feeling. Is it worth the price to upgrade? Not for everyone, but I wouldn't have gone to any other handset.
The development on this phone may not kick off massively, which would be a shame, but I wouldn't force yourself to adapt to the Nexus 6 just because its a new Nexus device. I'd either stay on the Nexus 5 or choose a Moto X.
If big devices don't bother you though its Nexus 6 > everything else.
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
mario24601 said:
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
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I'm on Nexus 4 and debating Moto X vs Nexus 5 (N6 size doesn't work for me).
I was leaning towards Moto X until I read your comment.
Why are you on the fence? What's not right about Moto X?
RawrLikeADino said:
So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
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I had the nexus 5 and hated it. Had great specs but the cheapest design and actually stuttered a little bit with animations.. least favorite phone so far besides the s4. I'd go nexus 6 if the screen isn't to big for you[emoji12]