Who needs Carplay or Android Auto if you have a Moto X? - Moto X General

Moto X works great with the bluetooth controls in my car. With the combination of touchless controls and Motorola assist, I can listen to music, send texts, make phone calls, get weather reports, get sports scores, etc without taking the phone out of my pocket.
The only issue is the screen is a bit small for navigation.
If I wanted a bigger screen I would rather put a Nexus 7 or Ipad Mini in the dash. I wish automakers would just do that instead and just configure the software to better suit driving conditions.

True but the problem is I don't always ride around with bluetooth media turned on. I like to listen to radio talk shows, so if I have the radio on, I won't get anything through bluetooth streaming(music, google now, etc). My calls come through of course, nothing audio because the car is on radio mode. So yes, it's useful if you're always on media/bluetooth streaming mode, but if not than not so much.

In dash system is more elegant than having a moto x mounted on your windshield. Pressing a button while driving is easier than saying okay Google now, especially while listening to audio. 7" display is better than 4.7. Don't get me wrong, I use the moto x in exactly the fashion I've described above but a cleaner solution is always welcomed.
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biggiestuff said:
In dash system is more elegant than having a moto x mounted on your windshield. Pressing a button while driving is easier than saying okay Google now, especially while listening to audio. 7" display is better than 4.7. Don't get me wrong, I use the moto x in exactly the fashion I've described above but a cleaner solution is always welcomed.
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biggiestuff wants bigger stuff in his car.
lol
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chrisp6825 said:
biggiestuff wants bigger stuff in his car.
lol
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I'm from Texas, bigger is better! ?
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I'm just waiting for the new screen casting for Chromecast to start working with the Moto X.
Once that happens my chromecast is going into my car and being patched into my factory nav screen.
Boom! Google NAV, Pandora, Netflix, Plex, Google Play Music, etc... It's gonna be nice!

deathsled said:
I'm just waiting for the new screen casting for Chromecast to start working with the Moto X.
Once that happens my chromecast is going into my car and being patched into my factory nav screen.
Boom! Google NAV, Pandora, Netflix, Plex, Google Play Music, etc... It's gonna be nice!
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Are you going to put a router in your car to? How are you going to cast it? I thought the screen casting works over the wifi network.

deathsled said:
I'm just waiting for the new screen casting for Chromecast to start working with the Moto X.
Once that happens my chromecast is going into my car and being patched into my factory nav screen.
Boom! Google NAV, Pandora, Netflix, Plex, Google Play Music, etc... It's gonna be nice!
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Yeah, I think the ideal solution is to have a dumb screen that just mirrors your phone. It's cheap and effective. Too bad they will never do it because they don't want you watching Netflix while driving.

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Are you going to put a router in your car to? How are you going to cast it? I thought the screen casting works over the wifi network.
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Turn on wifi hotspot on my phone and let the chromecast connect to it. I can't remember if I was able to control the chromecast like that or not. I tested a few scenarios. Worst case I just use another device to control it while my phone is being the router/internet access.

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Turn on wifi hotspot on my phone and let the chromecast connect to it. I can't remember if I was able to control the chromecast like that or not. I tested a few scenarios. Worst case I just use another device to control it while my phone is being the router/internet access.
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That seems more trouble than just connecting your phone to the Android auto head unit. Less functionality than mirroring but easier. Might as well just plug in a miracast adapter into your system.
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biggiestuff said:
That seems more trouble than just connecting your phone to the Android auto head unit. Less functionality than mirroring but easier. Might as well just plug in a miracast adapter into your system.
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Well I have the chromecast already and don't have a miracast dongle, so the Chromecast is actually the easier and cheaper solution.
Plus I like the additional functionality beyond screen casting. Like what if I wanted to get Netflix going on the screen but still have my phone available...

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Well I have the chromecast already and don't have a miracast dongle, so the Chromecast is actually the easier and cheaper solution.
Plus I like the additional functionality beyond screen casting. Like what if I wanted to get Netflix going on the screen but still have my phone available...
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Hmm chrome cast in a car... This does seem interesting. Basically it sounds like android auto, but without the screen being disabled during connection.
I think I got a new project idea to play with now. Lol
tapa'd on my moto x

deathsled said:
Well I have the chromecast already and don't have a miracast dongle, so the Chromecast is actually the easier and cheaper solution.
Plus I like the additional functionality beyond screen casting. Like what if I wanted to get Netflix going on the screen but still have my phone available...
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It's still a lot of work. YOu have to get into the car, enable your hotspot so chromecast can work, put that phone aside and use a 2nd phone or tablet to cast to the chromecast?
I have more faith in the devs just figuring out how to mirror your screen to android auto while connected to your phone. .

Wouldn't hosting a hotspot on his (primary) device create a LAN that his phone and chrome cast could communicate through? Thus not needing a router or secondary phone, as well as still having mobile data connectivity...
Will a chrome cast detect an android device like this?
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chrisp6825 said:
Wouldn't hosting a hotspot on his (primary) device create a LAN that his phone and chrome cast could communicate through? Thus not needing a router or secondary phone, as well as still having mobile data connectivity...
Will a chrome cast detect an android device like this?
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The device hosting the hotspot wouldn't be able to cast to the chromecast you would need an additional device connected to the hotspot to be able to cast.
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oh one new feature hitting the chromecast is for devices NOT on the same wireless network to send stuff to be casted to it. All you need to know is a PIN code from the Chromecast.
This will let it work in the car perfectly. It can connect to the hotspot on the phone and my phone can still send it commands over the internet and not a local network.

Though that may work, it's just such a... redundant workaround... Lol
In theory, they should have a common subnet across the wlan adapters. I see no reason they can't talk across that, other than software imposed restrictions.
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How does screen mirroring work?

How does it work and what can I do with it?! Tried screen mirroring with my 32" Samsung TV but idk how to do it!
It worked both ways for me after I updated the system on the tv
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It worked both ways for me after I updated the system on the tv
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Sorry but that doesn't help me at all...
Joe0113 said:
How does it work and what can I do with it?! Tried screen mirroring with my 32" Samsung TV but idk how to do it!
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Sorry, but have to ask - does your TV support it? What is the model#?
If it does, you should be able to enable it then just turn on screen mirroring on your phone.
My Samsung TV doesn't have the option for screen mirroring built in, but I accomplish it with what I do have - the MHL HDMI dongle and the allshare cast. One is a direct connection, the other is wireless.
I'd imagine it works the same as the allshare cast hub. When it's on,all I need to do is turn on screen mirroring from the notification window and it automatically connects to it. If you share the model of your TV myself or someone can look it up. Or you can check out your manual first then go from there. Without knowing what you have, here's an example :
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000058/6528/41579/UN55ES6500FXZA
AFAIK it has to be a newer model for the mirroring without the dongles. : http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/is-it-possible-to-test-screencast-using-eclipse-simulator/141/219986#post1
Hope that helps.
Can a rooted phone screen mirror? I just got a new 60in samsung but I cant get mirroring to work. It connects and then drops a few seconds after.
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I had to update the ROM in my smartv before I could connect my phone to the TV and then toto the phone. Some samsung devices can mirror the TV as well as have the TV.
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Sorry, but have to ask - does your TV support it? What is the model#?
If it does, you should be able to enable it then just turn on screen mirroring on your phone.
My Samsung TV doesn't have the option for screen mirroring built in, but I accomplish it with what I do have - the MHL HDMI dongle and the allshare cast. One is a direct connection, the other is wireless.
I'd imagine it works the same as the allshare cast hub. When it's on,all I need to do is turn on screen mirroring from the notification window and it automatically connects to it. If you share the model of your TV myself or someone can look it up. Or you can check out your manual first then go from there. Without knowing what you have, here's an example :
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000058/6528/41579/UN55ES6500FXZA
AFAIK it has to be a newer model for the mirroring without the dongles. : http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/is-it-possible-to-test-screencast-using-eclipse-simulator/141/219986#post1
Hope that helps.
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Model #- LN32D403E4DXZA
Version- SP01
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Model #- LN32D403E4DXZA
Version- SP01
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LN32D403E4DXZA specifications don't indicate built-in support for miracast. So you would need to get either the Allshare cast, or another miracast adapter like the netgear push2tv (PTV3000 or PTV2000) to be able to mirror your phone to the TV.
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LN32D403E4DXZA specifications don't indicate built-in support for miracast. So you would need to get either the Allshare cast, or another miracast adapter like the netgear push2tv (PTV3000 or PTV2000) to be able to mirror your phone to the TV.
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...or the other option is just to run the wired MHL HDMI connect to mirror - like this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-HDTV-Adapter-ET-H10FAUWEGWW/dp/B00BTCPQ5C/
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...or the other option is just to run the wired MHL HDMI connect to mirror - like this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-HDTV-Adapter-ET-H10FAUWEGWW/dp/B00BTCPQ5C/
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Certainly.
Personally, I find that short cable inconvenient, but that's just me. If the goal is to play movies on the phone and mirror to TV, sure. But I end up wanting to share pictures or short videos taken on my phone, on the big screen. For that, I would prefer the ability to have the phone with me (on the couch) and not have to stand next to the TV with that short cable connecting it to my phone.
For now, I'm using the Roku (juice channel) to share local video/pictures, but is not the best option because it doesn't let me share my pictures/videos from dropbox or other online storage sites. I have to download it to my phone first.
Waiting for the wireless mirroring options to drop further in cost
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Certainly.
Personally, I find that short cable inconvenient, but that's just me. If the goal is to play movies on the phone and mirror to TV, sure. But I end up wanting to share pictures or short videos taken on my phone, on the big screen. For that, I would prefer the ability to have the phone with me (on the couch) and not have to stand next to the TV with that short cable connecting it to my phone.
For now, I'm using the Roku (juice channel) to share local video/pictures, but is not the best option because it doesn't let me share my pictures/videos from dropbox or other online storage sites. I have to download it to my phone first.
Waiting for the wireless mirroring options to drop further in cost
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For sure! I prefer not to have it directly connected -but was more for the sake of informing the OP.
I use the mhl dongle it like you mentioned, if we're watching something that doesn't require me to babysit the phone lol.
I got lucky when Samsung was having a 50% off promo and I picked up the allshare hub then. None of my TV's are "smart" TV's, so it works well for my "dumb" TV's.
Also, a while back, I picked up a pogoplug for under $20 and I use that for storage- kinda like a "mini NAS". You can hook up usb drives (flash or harddrives) to it and right now I basically have a couple of flash drives to serve the media to phone, so it's cool for mirroring or just while out and about. Pretty cheap,quick and doesn't require much effort so it was well worth it for me...it comes in handy because it's set up so I don't have to do any transcoding for videos - I just use the mxplayer app and the phone does the rest.
There is one thing I have yet to try, just for curiosity's sake - to run xbmc on my S4 while it's connected to the TV with the wired MHL dongle, then use my wife's phone or my tablet with an xbmc remote app to connect to and control the videos to play from the s4 while mirrored...
That's cool with the roku. Have you tried just using something like couchyplay http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/19661/couchy-play
or rodropbox http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/18042/rodropbox so you don't have to d/l to your phone from dropbox?
You could even use something like the cloudpipes app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maximussoft.cloudpipes&hl=en to automate moving/copying files back and forth on dropbox while you're not using your phone (at work or sleeping ..or whatever)
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Have you tried just using something like couchyplay http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/19661/couchy-play
or rodropbox http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/18042/rodropbox so you don't have to d/l to your phone from dropbox?
You could even use something like the cloudpipes app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maximussoft.cloudpipes&hl=en to automate moving/copying files back and forth on dropbox while you're not using your phone (at work or sleeping ..or whatever)
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I have not! Thank you. I will try these out - neat!
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I have not! Thank you. I will try these out - neat!
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Let me know how it works out if you do.
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pastert33 said:
Can a rooted phone screen mirror? I just got a new 60in samsung but I cant get mirroring to work. It connects and then drops a few seconds after.
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Doesn't sound like it, according to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365242 there's mention of it not working while rooted

Screen mirroring over WIFI ?

Hello,
Just got the Nexus 6P , after years with Samsung note series... I was wondering , is there anyway in Nexus 6P to do screen mirroring over the wifi ? without any dongle?
I tried the Cast option , but it did not recognize my Sony tv which is connected to the same WIFI network, while the Samsung note had that "screen mirroring" option built in, is there anything equivalent in the Nexus?
Thanks, :good:
Roy
The cast option is designed to be used with a Chromecast. Some TVs and other video devices will register as Chromecast for some things, but not all. For example, my Vizio Smart TV shows up in the list of devices I can cast to in Netflix, but all it does is launch the Netflix app on the TV. I can't actually cast to it and control it from my phone like I can with an actual Chromecast.
Nexus devices on do Chromecast by default. If you want Miracast then you need root and to modify the build.prop file to enable it.
I can verify that if you root your Nexus 6P and add the following line to your build.prop, it will work with miracast devices. I just had it working with my screen beam pro that I bought to cast my Nvidia Shield Portable.
persist.debug.wfd.enable=1
Actually it is built in! I just hooked up to my Samsung TV. Go to "Cast", tap the three dots, check enable wireless display (make sure the mirroring function on your TV is on). Bam! your connected.
daveseris said:
Actually it is built in! I just hooked up to my Samsung TV. Go to "Cast", tap the three dots, check enable wireless display (make sure the mirroring function on your TV is on). Bam! your connected.
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This is not available on Nexus 6P (and Nexus 6 too) on stock.
I wonder why Google removed this and made it such that users have to root in order to activate Miracast....
Because they want you to use Chromecast, which is very Apple Esq of them
400ixl said:
Because they want you to use Chromecast, which is very Apple Esq of them
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I can only think of this being the reason.....
I think the main reason why it is disabled by default is because Wi-Di (as Intel likes to call it) requires "certified" hardware to allow you to mirror your screen over Wi-Fi.
Same for PCs... you need a certified Wireless Network Card to enable Windows 8-10 to mirror your screen to a Miracast Receiver.
TL;DR: Don't blame Google for this..!
Not really the excuse, LG had pretty much the exact same model as the N5 which had it on as default, so the hardware was certifiable in that case. Pretty sure other Hauewi devices are also certified. Far more likely to be Google pushing Chromecast.
Well that sucks that we have to modify build.prop to get Miracast mirroring to work. I was hoping to do the "systemless" root so I could take updates easier. I use ARU Unchained with my Pioneer NEX car stereo to mirror my phone, so I can use all the functions of the phone directly on the NEX. I have a Screen Beam. All works great with my rooted S5. I have not received my 6P yet, but I have a tracking number. Good to know in advance, I guess. Not sure if this is a show stopper for me or not, but I'm sure not happy about it.
I can confirm it works out of the box on a Samsung j series 4k smart tv. I just had to pair with the tv through the wifi direct menu.
I was able to connect using direct WiFi but how do you share screen after that?
mpv06 said:
I was able to connect using direct WiFi but how do you share screen after that?
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I think you need Chromecast in order to simply mirror the screen. But you can actually mirror the content most content that is to most Smart TV's
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Did you enable wireless display?
scoobysnack said:
Did you enable wireless display?
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Enable wireless option is no more option of n 6p
mpv06 said:
Enable wireless option is no more option of n 6p
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Have you modified the build.prop file to make it visible?
400ixl said:
Have you modified the build.prop file to make it visible?
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I don't want to root it, I saw someone posted that it worked by connecting direct wi-fi so was wondering if there is anyway but looks like 2 options are chromecast or rooting unless someone can help suggest connecting using direct wi-fi.
mpv06 said:
I don't want to root it, I saw someone posted that it worked by connecting direct wi-fi so was wondering if there is anyway but looks like 2 options are chromecast or rooting unless someone can help suggest connecting using direct wi-fi.
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Yes, those are your two options. And if you go Chromecast, you can't start mirroring without a data connection. That was the killer for me, I needed to be able to mirror in remote places with no data signal.
That cast is useless. How can google do that?
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Nexus 6P and miracast/mirroring

Does anyone know a way for me to mirror my screen of this phone without WiFi?
The phone apparently does not support HDMI over USB-C and I need to find a way to mirror my screen via HDMI.
My car has an HDMI input to the head unit and it was just recently found to have a bypass in it so that the HDMI will work while driving. I do not want to watch videos while driving but I do want Google maps/waze to be shown on my head unit screen as the car's standard navi is terrible.
I have tried using Chromecast but the Chromecast does not work unless the car is connected to WiFi. Using my phone as a hotspot was a workaround up until an update to the Chromecast was said to cause it to crash. So this option is out.
What I would like to do ideally is buy an HDMI miracast dongle to mirror the screen as it uses WiFi direct. If I go into settings>WiFi>menu>advanced I see the WiFi direct menu but it looks incomplete.
I did some searching and saw that there was a way to edit the build.prop on the nexus 6 to allow for miracast.
Does anyone know if this is possible with the 6p and do you think it would be a viable option?
I have asked the question about the build.prop modification, but have not got any response
I can use TCL_nscreen Pro, but I would like a stock option
It is exactly the same for the Nexus 6 as it was for the 6. There are a couple of threads in here already on it, but essentially it is the build.prop modification and then after a reboot, set the allow wifi setting in the setting of the cast screen.
persist.debug.wfd.enable=1
Chromecast can be made to work again by downgrading to the previous version and then switching off auto update.
You can cast your screen while using the hotspot feature. You have to cast using the cast button in the quick settings. I had to use a tablet to configure the chromecast the first time so it knows what wifi network to use (Which is the hotspot)
Has anyone successfully got this working? I have modified my build.prop without success. Screen mirroring to my Fire stick is essential to me.
Yes, I am using Miracast. As well as modifying the file, have you rebooted and in the cast screen gone into options and selected the wireless option?
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Yes, I am using Miracast. As well as modifying the file, have you rebooted and in the cast screen gone into options and selected the wireless option?
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It's working now. Thanks
Good to hear
What do you need to add/edit on your build.prop to use Miracast? Just add "persist.debug.wfd.enable=1" ?
rayfin said:
What do you need to add/edit on your build.prop to use Miracast? Just add "persist.debug.wfd.enable=1" ?
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Yes. I just added it to the last line.
Will miricast work through apps like YouTube or play movies? Or have they disabled it system wide?
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Yes. I just added it to the last line.
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Does it screw up use of Chromecast like the poster above implied?
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Will miricast work through apps like YouTube or play movies? Or have they disabled it system wide?
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System wide, only casting through Chromecast will work by default.
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Does it screw up use of Chromecast like the poster above implied?
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Chromecast still worked for me. I just switched to Chroma, which has it built in. Pure Nexus did not.
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Chromecast still worked for me. I just switched to Chroma, which has it built in. Pure Nexus did not.
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The mic problems I see reported in the thread make me a bit nervous, but it looks like a great ROM otherwise.
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The mic problems I see reported in the thread make me a bit nervous, but it looks like a great ROM otherwise.
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The rom is legendary!
Hey guys. I am interested in casting from 6P. I have looked into casting using Chromecast and although i have all the equipment to set up today, I am a bit concerned about the casting dropping out if I were to lose data momentarily (BIG CONCERN). As such, before I install chromecast in my car (using with appradio) only to have to rip it out later, I would like to explore miracast. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced miracast device I can purchase (say from amazon or wherever) to cast my 6P? I understand its easier to set up and does not require data to mirror.
Thanks
thesticks00 said:
Hey guys. I am interested in casting from 6P. I have looked into casting using Chromecast and although i have all the equipment to set up today, I am a bit concerned about the casting dropping out if I were to lose data momentarily (BIG CONCERN). As such, before I install chromecast in my car (using with appradio) only to have to rip it out later, I would like to explore miracast. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced miracast device I can purchase (say from amazon or wherever) to cast my 6P? I understand its easier to set up and does not require data to mirror.
Thanks
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You need a second phone in order to use Chromecast unless you use an older version that lets you trick it into streaming from the same phone that is the WiFI hotspot. Google didn't not include Miracast by default so you need to enable it in the build.prop file. The Microsoft Miracast dongle works fine for me and has been rated pretty well. Regardless, you don't need a data connection for either if you are not streaming something from the internet, so I don't know what you're expecting to be different between the two options.
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You need a second phone in order to use Chromecast unless you use an older version that lets you trick it into streaming from the same phone that is the WiFI hotspot. Google didn't not include Miracast by default so you need to enable it in the build.prop file. The Microsoft Miracast dongle works fine for me and has been rated pretty well. Regardless, you don't need a data connection for either if you are not streaming something from the internet, so I don't know what you're expecting to be different between the two options.
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Wait. I thought that was the main reason why people are opting for using miracast devices and not chromecast. I have the original chromecast (not the newer ones). But I was under the impression that if you lose your data connection (from carrier), your wifi hotspot goes down, and your phone is no longer connected to the chromecast. I am fine not being able to stream content from the internet, as long as my phone is still mirroring to chromecast and is visible on what I have connected chromecast to. I have tons of content on my device that I can cast, I just need to be able to mirror if my data connection on the 6P goes out. Please confirm because this changes everything. Sounds like if I have the original chromecast there is not much difference between it an miracast devices.
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Wait. I thought that was the main reason why people are opting for using miracast devices and not chromecast. I have the original chromecast (not the newer ones). But I was under the impression that if you lose your data connection (from carrier), your wifi hotspot goes down, and your phone is no longer connected to the chromecast. I am fine not being able to stream content from the internet, as long as my phone is still mirroring to chromecast and is visible on what I have connected chromecast to. I have tons of content on my device that I can cast, I just need to be able to mirror if my data connection on the 6P goes out. Please confirm because this changes everything. Sounds like if I have the original chromecast there is not much difference between it an miracast devices.
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I am talking about the Chromecast application that needs to be an old version, not the device. Otherwise, you need a second phone. I don't know if the mobile hotspot dies when you lose 4G even if you aren't using Internet directly, sorry. I didn't think it would, but I've never had the experience to be able to answer affirmatively. Miracast would be your choice if that is what happens, but again you need to edit the build.prop for the Nexus 6P to make it work with Miracast. Dimming the screen is also going to be an issue (the device is AMOLED so screen off programs will not work) in order to maintain a charge, so you should look into that before purchase as well.

Nexus Player vs Chromecast 2015

Hello
Does the nexus player have all Chromecast features? I mean can i stream my files from my phone to the nexus player? The new Chromecast had improvements in streaming speed, so which device is faster?
Sorry for my english
I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
This will work fine
Can't get much simpler and reviews are good enough.
Get A 5 Port Ethernet Adapter Always
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
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Here you go
guy, the beast, always get a 5 port Ethernet adapter, also you will need a OTG cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8K3GGO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 !
qualitymove13 said:
Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
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This is the one I bought. Works fine for me!
http://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Gigabit-Ethernet-Converter-Network/dp/B00IJU0K2Q
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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The thing about it is, a new Chromecast is $35, though I've seen it for $30 on sale recently. I've seen the nexus player on sale for $40 at a few places. For the extra $10, the nexus player does much more than the Chromecast, and can function essentially the same as a Chromecast, save for the HBO now app.
Also I perceive casting to the NP is much quicker than my Chromecast on wifi. It's a stronger machine.
For those of you suggesting the RJ45 + USB3.0 hubs, isnt the microUSB port on the back of the NP just a usb2.0 connection? Does adding a USB3.0 hub for expanded memory actually do anything since it should be throttled down to 2.0 speeds at the back of the NP? Or should we just look at getting a 2.0 hub and save a few extra $$$?
Im asking because Im currently looking into my options to expand my memory now that Android6.0 has hit our devices.
Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
whmaurer said:
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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I would've said the same, prior to the Marshmallow upgrade; whether the Cast icon would appear in Cast enabled apps was a matter of pure luck, as well as the "cast screen to" feature on Android devices. I got a lot of Cast connection losses as well, while the content was then still playing on the TV, without any possibility to control it (other than stopping it via the Nexus Player remote).
But all of those issues are fixed now with the Marshmallow upgrade (and I guess the various Google Cast Receiver app updates, that have been released since then).
The one thing that I find absolutely unacceptable is the following fact which you have mentioned as well: That the Nexus Player seems to be a 2nd class Google Cast device, which is e.g. not supported by Spotify, while working perfectly fine on Chromecasts. Google is allowing fragmentation of their Cast ecosystem because of this and this might be the beginning of the end of its acceptance, especially when it comes to Smart TVs that are shipped with Android TV and for which all companies involved are especially advertising the Cast functionality.
To the user who mentioned that both, the Nexus Player and the Chromecast are loading/streaming faster over Ethernet than over Wi-Fi: I strongly doubt that this is the case, especially since, as mentioned above, the available Ethernet adapters are only USB 2.0 capable. If you're talking about an Nvidia Shield TV I'd believe you, since that one supports Gigabit Ethernet natively, but regarding Chromecasts and Nexus Players... maybe if your wi-fi is horrible or you're using 2.4GHz wi-fi only... otherwise...no, not at all.
Anyway, since the original question was something like "Chromecast vs. Nexus Player": I have both, and I fully replaced my Chromecast with my Nexus Player since I have found that it makes the Chromecast redundant.
Some advantages of the Chromecast that should be considered:
-It's perfectly suited for taking it with you when traveling, while the Nexus Player is more of a fixed device that you set up once, connect it to your TV and leave it there.
- The Chromecast might reboot a couple of seconds faster than the Nexus Player, in case you shut off your devices often.
- The Chromecast allows you to adjust the backdrop e.g. with weather data and specific background images; the similar looking stock-backdrop of the Nexus Player cannot be modified at all.
- The Nexus Player wants you to sign into a specific Google account, whereas the Chromecast only requires you to set up a wi-fi.
- Chromecast doesn't need a wall socket and can be powered by your TV's USB port (even though using a real power adapter is recommended due to stability reasons).
- As mentioned, Chromecast isn't treated as a 2nd class Cast device by e.g. HBO (lol) and Spotify.
- You won't have to deal with yet another remote control in addition to your TV's, your audio system's and what-not remote controls, if using a Chromecast
- Google so far hasn't dared to release a firmware upgrade for the Chromecast which increases the brightness to a bazillion % and causes all blacks to look washed-out as hell.
I'm not gonna mention any advantages of the Nexus Player here as I've already said that I, personally, prefer the Nexus Player; I think it comes down to personal preferences regarding the above-points. Some things might be more important to some people, while others aren't, the same goes for what compromises are acceptable to the specific user.
Markolc said:
Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
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Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
priddyma said:
Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
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I don't quite know what you mean? I have a 2.0 USB hub\ethernet hybrid plugged into my nexus players. It gives me 3 full size USB ports and Ethernet.
Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
priddyma said:
Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
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And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
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And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
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All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
Markolc said:
All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
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Your WiFi should have big enough buffer to handle a few seconds of WiFi interference... Never had a single problem on a Chromecast wireless in a highly congested 2.4GHz area....
The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
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The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
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I'm not sure why the Chromecast app would ever need to detect your NP. It's not like you could use that app to configure it.
Maybe it was just my assumption that the Google Nexus Player (which supports casting) would use the Chromecast protocol(?) from Google.
Apparently, there is also a Googlecast protocol that is different from Chromecast?
My Samsung phone has it's own casting protocol that works great with my Samsung HDTV.
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When I try and cast apps using Chromecast, my V20 will either say it cant connect or connects but doesnt cast anything. This has never been an issue using my other android devices. Anyone else having this issue? Ideas of what might be going on?
Hi there, I just tried it and it worked fine for me.
It works fine with all three of my devices. Try rebooting the Chromecast and rebooting the phone.
bat8580 said:
When I try and cast apps using Chromecast, my V20 will either say it cant connect or connects but doesnt cast anything. This has never been an issue using my other android devices. Anyone else having this issue? Ideas of what might be going on?
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Working fine here...
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Chrome cast is Google home now correct me if I'm wrong
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mobilecutzzfa said:
Chrome cast is Google home now correct me if I'm wrong
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Off topic, but no. Chromecast is still Chromecast. The app for it (which itself was never called Chromecast, but rather Google Cast) was redesigned and renamed Google Home with the introduction of Google's Google Home device. The app is now there to serve any "Google" device they release.
On my Sony Android TV the app is called Google Cast that's built in and I can cast from my phone or tablet like you normally would with a Chromecast dongle. It seems Sony broke the ability to cast with a recent update to the TV, which is unfortunate because Sony updates are few and far between. I'll just invest in the new Chromecast and bypass the built in app all together. It isn't the phone after all.
I have the same problem. I rebooted the Chromecast receiver and my LG V20 and it doesnt cast, even to a Chromecast 2.0 device. I tried with my old Galaxy Note 4 and it works fine.
I wonder if this has something to do with Android 7.0 Nougat?
I have h990ds and chromecast 2.0 and everything works well ?
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bat8580 said:
When I try and cast apps using Chromecast, my V20 will either say it cant connect or connects but doesnt cast anything. This has never been an issue using my other android devices. Anyone else having this issue? Ideas of what might be going on?
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I just got my LG V20 and was having the same issue with Chromecast. One day it would work and then the next not. I found it only works if I have my wifi on my LG set to the 2.4mgz. It will not cast if logged on to the 5mgz. I assume most of us now have dual modems. When in my office my phone goes on the 5mgz. So have to change it to 2.4 to cast. has been working every time so far.
Works like a charm for me, both in ChromeCast and Nexus Player.
I have 3 Chromecast, and 3 Chromecast audio, some on 2.4GHZ, some on 5GHZ and they all work fine using my v20 no matter if it's connected to 2.4GHZ or 5GHZ.
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aerospacecase said:
I have the same problem. I rebooted the Chromecast receiver and my LG V20 and it doesnt cast, even to a Chromecast 2.0 device. I tried with my old Galaxy Note 4 and it works fine.
I wonder if this has something to do with Android 7.0 Nougat?
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Not an issue with Android 7+. Works perfectly for me and many others. If you're still having trouble try some of the troubleshooting steps mentioned above, like rebooting your v20 and rebooting your ChromeCast. You could first try turning your WiFi on & off, as cycling your data connection often helps with connectivity issues (Either WiFi or carrier, depending on the situation. Though obviously it's Wifi in this scenario)
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