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This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sunlight. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality in comparison to the htc hd2 screen?
NB2 said:
This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sun light. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality?
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
Paul22000 said:
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
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I've seen an app on an htc hd2 that changes the brightness automatically but one can adjust the brightness for specific surround conditions (i.e it looks like a graphical equalizer). I do not own the phone but I was told that this app works quite good. Is there something similar for the n1?
I can attest the screen pretty much sucks in sunligh at full brightness. The beaming sun in south florida is relentless.
Yeah, the N1 is hard to read in the bright sun and its not just pooping on stupid people that dont understand computerz or a simple setting that fixes it, it just gives glare in the sun.
Most phones/screens, regardless of their technology, are difficult to see in direct sunlight. But then, why are you trying to read the screen in direct sunlight? Just turn the other way, or shield it with your hand. Not that hard to figure out, really.
I use the automatic light sensor all the time. The only time is gets confused is is in a dim room, bright source (window, lamp) directly in front of the sensor. You have to realize what the sensor is seeing. Often times it's seeing light reflected off your face, hence the up/down/up/down of the screen brightness.
I honestly don't see either as issues with the phone, but the users rather.
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
Raymond77 said:
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
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Really. I usually leave the screen set to auto, on the odd occasion I've had to turn it up to the brightest setting, but as the last poster said usually it'll catch up and turn the brightness up itself.
snoopstah said:
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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Or people who don't have any problem with the battery? With my use the battery lasts for 20+ hours, which is more than enough time for me to get to a charger again.
I always have the brightness at max and have had it that way for all the phones I've had (where you can set the brightness). If I'm gonna be more than a day without charging it I'll of course turn it down, but it's far from a neccesity for day to day use.
Just checked my phone and it's been off the charger for 16 hours and I still have 53% left on the battery.
Brightness in the direct Thai sunlight is fully adequate. The only problem I've had is that in direct sunlight, everything else is well lit, and so reflects off the screen.
Brightness: no problem
Reflection off the screen: annoying.
Paul22000 said:
The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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False. I know this phone well and disabled the auto brightness within 20 minutes of owning the phone. As much as I love my N1, and would not trade it for any phone, the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
You can buy anti-glare screen protectors that help this problem, but you do sacrifice some of the stunning brightness and clarity of the N1 screen in regular viewing conditions.
There is no way I would trade the N1 screen for the likes of the iPhone screen as the benefits of the OLED screen in non-direct sunlight viewing far outweighs the difficulty seeing the screen in direct sunlight. In fact, the N1 screen is probably its most impressive feature (aside from its blazing speed).
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the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
I have never in my life encountered an electronic device with a screen that was perfectly readable in direct sunlight, that is to say, as readable as indoors (not even my laptop plugged in the mains and set to full brightness). Reason: no screen technology can provide as much brightness as the sun. Solution: accept it, and cover the screen with one hand while you use the device with the other....
NB2 said:
of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
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take pictures: look over the device and hit the shutter button..
input: open you jacket and form the number while providing shadow with it, or provide shadow with one hand while forming the number with the other. It's a fact that you need to accept, period.
Video sunlight test
Here is a video I found, it basically compares the N1's screen in sunlight to the Droid's screen at three different brightness levels. Enjoy.
youtube. com/watch?v=YwyJq6oF4wE
note, since I'm new I can't post links... just remove the space
The screen is really nice in normal light but yeah it sucks in the sunlight LOL Probably depends where you live but in sunny South Florida it's a pain sometimes. Doesn't matter which direction you turn definitely have to shield it with your hand and it's still pretty hard to read. I'm looking into getting an anti glare screen protector for it to see how that helps. The display is absolutely beautiful but i'm starting to think maybe oled isn't the best technology for cell phone screens
Oled
The main difference between the screen technology in the N1 and most other phones is that on the N1, as I understand it, each pixel emits its own light (OLED = Organic Light Emitting Diode) as opposed to a 'liquid' film lighted from the back (LCD = Liquid Crystal Display). The only technology that I know of that will work well in direct sunlight is e-ink.
It is not likely that a pixel or a backlight could ever reasonably compete with direct sunlight, but on an LCD screen it is possible for the sunlight to reflect off the back layer or to hold the device is a certain angle to 'perhap's see the image better in sunlight then on the OLED type display.
However, having the N1 myself, I have found that I am able to shade the display in full Southern California Sunlight well enough to function with the device. The OLED display is much too gorgious to give up for LCD in my opinion.
Can anyone please comment on outdoor visibility with the M's screen? How about overall brightness. On my S3, one of the huge knocks I have on it is the outdoor visibility. It's nearly just washed out and blank in direct sunlight glare. I was at the Bucs football game on Sunday and damn could I not read much, even on full brightness it was bad and sucked my battery up. My fiancee's 4S screen however was at mid brightness and it was perfectly visible. Another Galaxy user commented on how she could actually see the screen when doing a group self-portrait =)
Anyway, I've read several S3 screen comparisons and know it's not the best..pentile and all and seeing the M has an AMOLED pentile display, I'm curious about outdoor visibility and overall brightness. Thanks!!
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Can anyone please comment on outdoor visibility with the M's screen? How about overall brightness. On my S3, one of the huge knocks I have on it is the outdoor visibility. It's nearly just washed out and blank in direct sunlight glare. I was at the Bucs football game on Sunday and damn could I not read much, even on full brightness it was bad and sucked my battery up. My fiancee's 4S screen however was at mid brightness and it was perfectly visible. Another Galaxy user commented on how she could actually see the screen when doing a group self-portrait =)
Anyway, I've read several S3 screen comparisons and know it's not the best..pentile and all and seeing the M has an AMOLED pentile display, I'm curious about outdoor visibility and overall brightness. Thanks!!
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Not nearly as good as the Droid or D3. Its readable in direct sunlight but I have to really look closely. For example on a contact it is very hard to see the different number categories like Home, Mobile, etc. They should have used a bigger font.
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Razer Phone's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
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The saddest part about display is this I quote: "Razer seems to have opted for the latter since the Razer phone has one of the dimmest screens we have ever seen. Its brightness maxes out at just 223 nits. There is no max auto over-burn either, so you are stuck with that. Perhaps the high refresh rate necessitated this sacrifice. Whether or not it was a justified one is up to fans to decide. Contrast is sub-par as well. Definitely not flagship grade." Quote taken from gsmarena : https://www.gsmarena.com/razer_phone-review-1683p3.php
I run my brightness as low as I can usually for battery savings and lifespan of the screen so this makes no difference to me
No phone does well in direct sunlight imo.
kungpaoshizi said:
I run my brightness as low as I can usually for battery savings and lifespan of the screen so this makes no difference to me
No phone does well in direct sunlight imo.
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I would like to disagree. Samsung S7 and newer S models are great in direct sunlight. Same with most Samsung AMOLED panels. usually LCD's are lacking in direct sunlight. And since this phone has such a dim screen, it makes sense.
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I would like to disagree. Samsung S7 and newer S models are great in direct sunlight. Same with most Samsung AMOLED panels. usually LCD's are lacking in direct sunlight. And since this phone has such a dim screen, it makes sense.
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Idk, I just returned a s8 and that sucked in sunlight. Heh..
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Idk, I just returned a s8 and that sucked in sunlight. Heh..
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Interesting. Then you'll hate the Razer as it will be far worse than the S8. lol
Na, I accepted long ago that glossy screens and sunlight doesn't go together. Physics and all.. If it's an emergency I'll make it work of course.
I know I'll be happier with the razer before I even touch it because I won't be strongarmed into submission like a Samsung user. That was one disappointment coming from the Windows Phone failtrain. Held out a good number of years..
Plus this has a combo of hardware that is unmatched right now. The software is obviously rough in the camera and display section, but at least it can change. I would hate to be iphone/pixel users atm.
kungpaoshizi said:
I run my brightness as low as I can usually for battery savings and lifespan of the screen so this makes no difference to me
No phone does well in direct sunlight imo.
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Same here, and the fact that having the screen up at full brightness is just way too uncomfortable. Especially under ambient lighting conditions.
Granted, Direct sunlight readability will be an issue but I live in London and most outdoor phone use requiring more than a few minutes of screen viewing just isn't conducive to city life
Right.. Being a grown up now I can do so much more, so hanging around in random places outside usually doesn't happen anymore.
I'm at my computer usually if not at work. I'll just be glad to have this, which is just about as premium as premium gets for a phone, a computer, an entertainment device, and a personal gaming device.
to be fair the screen brightness can go much higher, its just software probably holding back. as the device has an unlocked bootloader, expect alot of custom roms will be able to refine this device. razer will probably be very dev friendly...
Got my phone, I think people complaining about screen brightness just never turned off adaptive brightness or Razer adjusted it since those reviews. The screen gets super bright. Almost as bright as my lumia 950xl.
The white on this is better than the white on that too, and it's an amoled.
Satisfied with the minimum brightness. It's not too blinding.
I find the minimum brightness to be far too bright. I'm rooted, running Magisk and Xposed, but my usual methods for lowering brightness aren't working. Does anyone have a method that does work?
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the OnePlus 7's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Everything vs. my s9 has been a big upgrade except wireless charging (meh) and this (Absolutely awful, massive downgrade)
Considering I largely bought it for a better experience with Pokemon Go and Ingress, not noticing the poor brightness was a bit of a mistake... on a nice day it's barely usable...
Gonna confirm what @Cloudane said.
Outdoor visibility sucks compared to my previous phone (s8), but I hope because lower brightness it won't get burn in like s8 did.
It does have the benefits of lower screen burn risk and longer outdoor battery life admittedly so it's not all bad, just a bit of a shock coming from an s9. I also don't think the factory screen protector helps, it's relatively opaque (you can tell at the edges) and causes a lot of glare. I'm wondering if the bare screen has an anti reflective coating but have a glass protector on the way which should at least improve it.
Same here. It's noticeable downgrade in outdoor visibility for me coming from Samsung Galaxy S7. It's still usable but my S7 was just better outdoor.
A little re-evaluation: In fairness, whilst it's not on par with a Samsung screen outdoors, I was using it on some very sunny days at the weekend and it was still adequately usable. Pokemon Go (light background) was easier to see than Ingress Prime (dark background). It was only a problem when angled so that the display is directly facing the sun, a problem that can be solved by moving slightly
Also it seems there's no polarising filter which probably doesn't help matters but there's a positive to that: I was able to wear polarising sunglasses without them 'interfering' as they do on some other phones. I found no difference in visibility with the glasses on or off.
Getting rid of that factory fitted screen protector and installing a glass one also helped a bit. The factory one gets all smudged up.
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Realme 6's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Outdoor screen performance is okish
The maximum brightness is great for indoors but okish outdoors cause under intense sunlight you might not be able to see the screen clearly. In normal sunlight the screen is not great but usable.
I was pretty worried about these negative comments about the brightness, living in Spain we see a lot of sun.
But I haven't noticed any problem to be honest. I noticed though that at some angles my sunglasses seem to act as a filter and all I can see is a black screen. The first time it happened I thought I'd put my finger over the light sensor, but when I looked over my sunglasses I realized what it was.
Do you have, perhaps, powersavings activated?
Look at: settings - Power saving Mode - reduce Screen brightness.
I usually use 50-70% brightness (without power saving enabled) and that works fine...
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The Outdoor Visibility is unfortunately really bad for me. At direct sunlight you can barely see the screen :/
Kachima said:
The Outdoor Visibility is unfortunately really bad for me. At direct sunlight you can barely see the screen :/
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Turn off the Power Saving mode from notification panel or Battery settings...
Overandout said:
I was pretty worried about these negative comments about the brightness, living in Spain we see a lot of sun.
But I haven't noticed any problem to be honest. I noticed though that at some angles my sunglasses seem to act as a filter and all I can see is a black screen. The first time it happened I thought I'd put my finger over the light sensor, but when I looked over my sunglasses I realized what it was.
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In India the sun is burning hot and it's very difficult even with power saving turned off
Yeah the screen isn't very bright at all.
Even with power savings off
this problem appeared after some update or is it a factory problem?
Factory problem.
Also disable screen optimization from battery sub menu helped in contrast.
Never get this phone if you are living in sunny areas.
terrible delay , not recommand for pubg.