HD Voice on T-Mobile - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the 98/33 radio with stock ROM and kernal running 4.4.4. I am rooted and have ro.ril.enable.amr.wideband=1 in my build prop. I went to a T-Mobile store and made a call from an S5 which has the HD indicator and it did not light up when I called or when I received a call.
I am at a loss as to if our nexus 4 is capable to have this work on T-Mobile.
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I have the 98/33 radio with stock ROM and kernal running 4.4.4. I am rooted and have ro.ril.enable.amr.wideband=1 in my build prop. I went to a T-Mobile store and made a call from an S5 which has the HD indicator and it did not light up when I called or when I received a call.
I am at a loss as to if our nexus 4 is capable to have this work on T-Mobile.
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sure. I get HD calls all the time, on my n4 and n5. it'll only happen if the other phone is connected to HD calling as well. when you called your phone from an s5, what didn't light up? the n4 doesn't have any kind of indicator, but you can hear the difference in quality.

What radio are u running? What are your settings? I verified with a phone S5 which has an HD indicator and it was not lit when I called it or received a call.
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What radio are u running? What are your settings? I verified with a phone S5 which has an HD indicator and it was not lit when I called it or received a call.
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the .33/.84 hybrid radio(I use lte). no special settings, the lte apn. can the issue be on tmobiles end? you don't hear any difference(i mean it really is obvious when its connected)?

Why do u use the 84 hybrid and not some other? I heard the 98 was for kit Kat.
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Why do u use the 84 hybrid and not some other? I heard the 98 was for kit Kat.
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because i use my nexus 5 mostly. sometimes I'll use my n4 as a daily, but usually its the n5 as a daily and the n4 as a WiFi device. last week I used my n4 as my daily(phone) for a day and was getting slightly faster speeds on my n4 than my n5(64mbps download/21mbps upload). and I've never had an issue with the radio, so I keep using it. oh, and I'm using KitKat, 444(lichtis rastakat).
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try using the lte APN, maybe it'll make a difference.

I've flashed the 84/33 modem and will test it out at a T-Mobile store that has a working S5. If the HD is working, the S5 indicator will show HD. That is the only way that I can verify if it is working.

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I think the question should be who makes calls anymore

After going to a T-Mobile store which has a working HD indicator phone(S5), I can report that the nexus 4 does NOT support HD voice. I tried all of the radio combinations and the indicator would not work on the S5.
Unless there is a codec that can be installed, I don't believe our phone has the hardware to support this function.
I reserve the right to be wrong and hope someone can show me how and why I am!
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agouracaguy said:
After going to a T-Mobile store which has a working HD indicator phone(S5), I can report that the nexus 4 does NOT support HD voice. I tried all of the radio combinations and the indicator would not work on the S5.
Unless there is a codec that can be installed, I don't believe our phone has the hardware to support this function.
I reserve the right to be wrong and hope someone can show me how and why I am!
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just like I claim it does, so do they http://www.anandtech.com/show/6594/tmobile-announces-amrwb-hd-voice-calls-active-on-its-network
I placed a number of calls between T-Mobile users last night to try and gauge any perceptible difference. I've previously heard AMR-WB demos and run loopback calls on the Anritsu base station emulator, and there is a perceptible difference. I originated a call on a Nexus 4 and terminated it on a Nexus 4 with both on T-Mobile, which sounded excellent, and then between an iPhone 5 (attached to PCS WCDMA here in Las Vegas) and a Nexus 4, which also sounded very different than an AT&T AMR-NB originated and terminated call. I need to do more testing back home, but T-Mobile's claims that this is live right now and working seem credible, calls sounded crisp and much more intelligible than some of the AMR-NB calls I've been on.
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I am basing my info on fact, not feeling. You need two working phones that support HD. The S5 displays if HD is working. It did not display when I tried all radio combos. I also tried the sine wave on some of the radios with nothing to report. If someone can report that the 2nd device they are testing has an HD indicator, and it does work, we can have a conversation.
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I am basing my info on fact, not feeling. You need two working phones that support HD. The S5 displays if HD is working. It did not display when I tried all radio combos. I also tried the sine wave on some of the radios with nothing to report. If someone can report that the 2nd device they are testing has an HD indicator, and it does work, we can have a conversation.
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maybe the s5 can't tell if its connected to a HD call with a nexus? I have a s4 as well as a n5. Samsung has some really crappy software for sure.

One of the reps in the store had an IPhone 5S and and it worked, so the only other reliable test is the sine wave.
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I think T-Mobile US needs sipXtapi for HD voice.
https://code.google.com/p/sipxtapi/wiki/Introduction

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All of this talk about HD, now I want to try it out too :fingers-crossed: even though I hardly make phone calls anymore...
Just like the whole 4K TV craze and 1440 x 2560 display resolution on phones...

knightowl439 said:
All of this talk about HD, now I want to try it out too :fingers-crossed: even though I hardly make phone calls anymore...
Just like the whole 4K TV craze and 1440 x 2560 display resolution on phones...
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Nexus 4 does not support HD Voice in hardware. It had a software support for HD Voice till 4.3 , then it was droped.
So, unfortunately, you will get no HD Voice on Nexus 4 with kitkat.

According to anandtech nexus 4 supports hd voice however it isn't on the T-Mobile whitelist. The nexus 5 however is.
From the link:
" I’m actually very impressed with how well the Nexus 5 performed at rejecting noise using the normal babble distractor track I use. In addition this was a T-Mobile AMR-WB “HD Voice” call between two Nexus 5s, illustrating that the Nexus 5 is indeed in the T-Mobile whitelist for HD Voice.
As an aside, the Nexus 4 oddly enough still hasn’t been green lit for HD Voice on T-Mobile, and given its age probably never will at this point, although the hardware is entirely capable."
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I remember having this working a long ass time ago, (working with N4 to N4 calls) and some kind of upgrade killed it and it hasn't worked since. I'm now testing with N4 to N5, and can't get it to work. I can test the N5 with other phones and it sounds clear as day different, but the N4 just doesn't work.
I've tried flashing these custom radios on my stock 4.4.4, even modded the build.prop, yet I can't get the thing to work. Anybody else able to get it working?

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[Q] Video Call with Nexus 4

Is 3G video calling applicable on Nexus 4G, I mean using dialer and not third party video calling apps like Skype
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Yes. You can use Google plus or Google talk.
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I mean direct video call to those normal GSM phones (not smartphones) with front camera
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I mean direct video call to those normal GSM phones (not smartphones) with front camera
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no
The current firmware doesn't support video calling.
It's an odd omission given wide network support for the feature.
Galaxy S2 and S3 support it. Even my old N95 supports it.
I was told that in the UK the O2 branded Nexus 4 does support video calling but I haven't been able to check. The Nexus 4 is rarer than rocking horse poo.
3g video call
I would like to know whether there is any dialer app or ROM available so that I can make video calls from my 3G network... I came to know that it is possible in S2, S3 and other phones. Even I did with my old phone nokia 3120 classic. Please help....
Crime - To with hold available technology from people
This is very strange. Even the old Samsung Galaxy SL with Gingerbread 2.3.6 video calling is possible in 3G. What can be done about it? The available technology is deliberately with held from people, it is a crime.
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I was told that in the UK the O2 branded Nexus 4 does support video calling but I haven't been able to check. The Nexus 4 is rarer than rocking horse poo.
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pigbig842001 said:
This is very strange. Even the old Samsung Galaxy SL with Gingerbread 2.3.6 video calling is possible in 3G. What can be done about it? The available technology is deliberately with held from people, it is a crime.
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imo, if their nexus 4 supports video calling, and i doubt their n4 are any way different then ours, the only possible thing could be the fw/radio version of those devices.. however, it might be that besides fw, it may be the provider thing too, maybe not every provider gives 3G call support

Double hello/2 second delay when answering an incoming call on Nexus 4

This lag when answering an incoming call on Nexus 4 is really annoying. Regardless of which ROM.
Could it be network related or the device itself?
I am on T-Mobile. Anyone else on T-Mo experiencing this issue?
nope. what kernel are you using.
Yep. There was a thread about it a few weeks ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043660
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There was a recent commit to CM that may help this, it allowed for opening of the audio stream before the RIL had notified that the call was connected.
Franco r22
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iggyx2 said:
This lag when answering an incoming call on Nexus 4 is really annoying. Regardless of which ROM.
Could it be network related or the device itself?
I am on T-Mobile. Anyone else on T-Mo experiencing this issue?
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I am on T-Mobile and have the same problem with every phone I get.
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I am on T-Mobile and have the same problem with every phone I get.
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I didn't have this issue with G2 so I'm not used to answer lag. I can live with it I guess.
Used to happen on my desire HD think it is a jelly bean thing
I have also used giffgaff sim and Vodafone both do the same
Really annoying and such a simple thing should be sorted!
Glad other people have posted this cause I thought it was just me lol
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I also think it has something to do with jellybean.. Had the same issue with any aosp ROM on my gs3...
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I don't usually moan but its such a simple feature for a mic to work instantly
They must know about it ?
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having the same problem, it's driving me mad .....
It's not a nexus 4 nor jelly bean only issue. My wife's iphone 4 has the same issue, hello hello bug... Seems like a network, tower delay.. And it seems new.. At least my previous phones on the same service provider didn't have this..
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+1 have say hello like 3 times .
I noticed its usually after the phone marks 3-4 seconds that's when the other person hears you...what can we do about this?
My Lil bro inlaw and my moms are all on the same account but they have a amaze and a sgs2. They don't have that problem...
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Ye I got the same problem.
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same here, any update on this ?
Just chiming in - same problem here on carrier TDC in Denmark, stock ROM.
There's a bug report on it here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42525
So annoying, can't believe there aren't more ppl complaining about this :/
Stock rom + Franco Kernel here on rev 11
Having the same issues. Didn't notice this with my first nexus 4 got a replacement and every incoming call has a two to three second delay.
I have the same problem, it is very annoying, had plenty of smartphones before and none of them had this issue. Galaxy Nexus was my previous device and there was no delay. With Nexus 4 there is a delay and it is device related, or at least device combined with T-Mobile.
Seems like nobody at google uses this device, everyone just acts dumb like you are the only person experiencing the issue if you complain about it.
Just got the update to 4.2.2, and it seems to have fixed this problem for me.
Tested it a few times by calling the Nexus 4 from a land line, and voice came through almost instantly every time. At least as fast as you can lift the phone up to your ear after answering.

Nexus 4 wifi calling

I bought a nexus 4 from Google it does not have wifi calling. I use the pre paid minutes plan with t-mobile.
Is it possible to get wifi calling enabled on this phone somehow?
I don't have much of a tower signal at my house in the country.
Thanks
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It's not possible right now.
Have you tried talking to Tmobile? I seem to remember someone saying they had a device that plugged into your router but provided a cell signal. I could be wrong though.
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Other nexus devices
With the news that the S4 and HTC One will be sporting Google's vanilla OS, I guess neither of those will be able to use wifi calling either. Seems like a waste.
One would think that t-mobile would want to correct this to gain customers. I do get a strong ATT signal at my home in the country so if I go that route t-mobile not only loose my business but also of my daughter and granddaughter.
Oh with our unlocked phone's it's easy to switch.
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On a prepaid plan, tmobiles WiFi calling uses minutes. Get the Vonage app for free outgoing calls over data.
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But no incoming calls which I need. T-mobile goes both ways. There are any number of apps that do out going calls via wifi but not in coming.
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Try looking at GrooveIP on the Play store. That's what I'm using and it works. It basically uses your Google Voice account and forwards the calls via data (wifi).
If that doesn't work try Talkatone(?) I've never even looked into that app, but it's just a name I hear mentioned in threads like this. Actually, I think it uses Google Voice to forward the calls too so that might not be a good solution if GrooveIP doesn't work. Anyway, hope you find a solution that works.
For those of you who want the best quality out of your $30 smartphone plan, I made a 12-part video tutorial showing how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DzN1Pu6-Q&list=PLE_de-PBwrTSUMm-Y48aiOOHt_YyT69t0
It's much better than GrooveIP, Vonage, Talkatone, Pbxes.org, and everything else, especially those with the "one big green button" solution.
This method gives you HD Voice (G.722 codec), bettery battery life, and much better options for logging/blocking/recording. You can even set up hold music. Yup, I said hold music.
It used to be difficult to set up until I made it as clear as the nose on your face in the video tutorial (with actual commentary instead of techno music).
Spread the word if you do it and it works out for you. I believe everyone deserves high quality and limitless VoIP WiFi/4g calling.
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On a prepaid plan, tmobiles WiFi calling uses minutes. Get the Vonage app for free outgoing calls over data.
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What do you mean?can I call to another mobile for free using vonage(by mobile i meant that the other mobile doesnt have vonage app)
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Johmama said:
Try looking at GrooveIP on the Play store. That's what I'm using and it works. It basically uses your Google Voice account and forwards the calls via data (wifi).
If that doesn't work try Talkatone(?) I've never even looked into that app, but it's just a name I hear mentioned in threads like this. Actually, I think it uses Google Voice to forward the calls too so that might not be a good solution if GrooveIP doesn't work. Anyway, hope you find a solution that works.
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thanks man you helped me a lot

Poor signal

So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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cam1pbell said:
So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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I find it helps to turn on airplane mode then turn it off. Resetting the radios often helps it pick up 4g again.
We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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Yes it is very annoying. Thanks for feedback. I still love the phone. For such a beast of a phone it should have 5 five bars all the time. Lol
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update made my phone snappier. As far as the signal , I think it might have helped a little bit. I know it doesn't sit there for a few seconds when calling someone. It used to take forever.
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Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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I just switched from my SGS3 to the new Note 3 and my reception is much better now.
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Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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I think I'm going to sell my note 3 and buy the developer addition. Only problem is I paid full price. I'm willing to lose a couple hundred bucks for a good signal.
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
I also had the gs3 . This phone by far kicks the gs3 butt. I will agree the gs3 signal is twice as good. My galaxy note 3 works awesome if I'm not at work or in my house. It is what it is.
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Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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cam1pbell said:
Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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Is MJE any better?
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Is MJE any better?
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Well so far no improvement. I'm going to let it settle for a few days before I change it back.
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I dunno. This phone gets all around better reception than my GS3 did. On MJE here.
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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No I haven't dropped my phone. my phone is very well taken care of. After using the MI9 modem for a day I've had twice the battery life. At 14 hrs I had 51%battery with 5 hours of on screen time. Thanks for the feedback.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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You are correct sir I think I'm just doomed with the area I live in but MI9 modem did help my signal or mostly my battery life.
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HD Voice not working

Does anyone know how to check whether HD Voice is enabled on the handset. Im currently with 3 network in the UK who state that the device is HD Voice enabled. When i call my friend who's also on three (also has a S5) there is definately no HD Voice yet when we use our S3 it works everytime. Im wondering whether 3 have it turned off on their rom but aren't saying.
I tried the menu options which worked on the S4 to see if WB-AMR was enabled but it doesn't work on the S5. Any ideas?
I'm on 3 too and was wondering the same.... how do we enable it...when you make a call there's a little phone icon on the right....what's that?
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Pretty sure there isn't an option and it will be enabled by default. You both need to be running on at least 3g to use it.
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Pretty sure there isn't an option and it will be enabled by default. You both need to be running on at least 3g to use it.
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In 99% H+
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I'm on 3 too and was wondering the same.... how do we enable it...when you make a call there's a little phone icon on the right....what's that?
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Im 99% of the time on H+ as well. Was on 4G the other day and still no HD Voice. The little phone icon allows you to enable extra in call volume that's all it's for.
Hopefully someone will figure out the service menu to check if it's enabled. It's annoying me
Cheers stevie....If I find out ill.let you know
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Still haven't managed to find any more info about this. :cyclops:
its always turn on by default but not alway works, i made a phone call using the same spot but sometime HD is on sometime dont, dont know why but i never really care.
Having the same issue here. S3 works everytime to my wifes S4 mini, but not my S5 to her S4 mini.
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Does anyone know how to check whether HD Voice is enabled on the handset. Im currently with 3 network in the UK who state that the device is HD Voice enabled. When i call my friend who's also on three (also has a S5) there is definately no HD Voice yet when we use our S3 it works everytime. Im wondering whether 3 have it turned off on their rom but aren't saying.
I tried the menu options which worked on the S4 to see if WB-AMR was enabled but it doesn't work on the S5. Any ideas?
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I want to know either...
Bump, my girlfriends S5 doesn't pick up wideband audio calling and it's frustrating. Were on Rogers network in Canada. I'm on moto x and I get HD voice with iPhone 5 and nexus users, just not her Samsung S5.

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