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Motor xoom

Does anybody know if it runs stock or does it have some gay motoblur on it.
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Its stock Android HoneyComb theres no theme(motoblur) at all

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Its stock Android HoneyComb theres no theme(motoblur) at all
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Source? I heard many people say this in forums, but never found an official source (or a blog report on Mashable or Engadget)...

Well my source is actually playing with the device literally holding it in my hands
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Ok, well hopefully the production units will stay this way, that would be great news (nothing against Motoblur, but stock should mean faster updates)

Well when moto released the original droid,it was to launch 2.0 and it stood vanilla....I don't think the xoom will be different with 3.0 lol
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I would imagine this will be a vanilla device. As witnessed by Andy Rubin playing around with this thing Google has obviousley worked very closely with Moto on this. I would imagine this device is akin to the Nexus and Nexus Z for Android tablets.

Homan13PSU said:
I would imagine this will be a vanilla device. As witnessed by Andy Rubin playing around with this thing Google has obviousley worked very closely with Moto on this. I would imagine this device is akin to the Nexus and Nexus Z for Android tablets.
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So no locked bootloader? Hope that's the case. If it is locked though I will buy a different Honeycomb tablet.

Well, they may (or may not, after the update in the article!) "motoblur" it with an update As for locked bootloader, Moto is supposed to change their strategy about this. Remains to be seen...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motoblur-coming-to-xoom-as-software-update-still-considered-goo/

I can't find the link but motorola has publicly stated that this would be a google experience tablet with no android skin. Its on phandroid or engadget or.....Droid life, don't quite remember where but if u look you will find it.
Edit: it would be great if motorola would change their stance on this bootloader **** and let us use their awesome phones with something other than blur.
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This scares me...

from Google's I/O keynote today
Rejoice! Google has announced that they are putting together a team of people from many of our favorite carriers and OEMs, to commit to bringing the latest Android updates to users devices. These new guidelines will be constructed by folks at Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola, AT&T and, of course, Google.
According to Google, new devices will receive the latest updates for 18 months after their release -- if the hardware allows. More to come. Be sure to follow our live blog here.
Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?

rog152 said:
Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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I believe they stated that "other" Honeycomb devices would receive the update in the coming weeks. So, yes, I'm worried until the sources hit and we get custom roms. Then not so worried anymore.

it all depends on how quickly acer gives an update.. can we not install the honeycomb 3.1 as it is as there is very little change made to the OS by acer or do i have to root it before doing it?

Well I'm worried, I think I'm taking mine back tonight as its tthe last day of my return. If the bootloader is cracked or Acer makes some statement or releases an update in the coming weeks than I'll buy it again. Otherwise ill see what the Samsung is all about.
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rog152 said:
Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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Not worried. The Xoom wifi-only doesn't even have an update date yet. Most likely they just wanted to get it out quickly for all the Xoom 3g folks that have had buyer's remorse creeping up on them since launch.

Per msnbc.com
"It's weird that Google is singling out the Xoom, on the tablet side. We've already tested three Honeycomb tablets in addition to the Xoom: LG G-Slate, Acer Iconia A500 and Asus EeePad Transformer, and they all work about the same, and share the same basic specs. Presumably they will be included in the whole "coming weeks" thing, but if not, that will be bad."
I agree with this; not worried. They said that others were going to be available at a later time (coming weeks).

rog152 said:
from Google's I/O keynote today
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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First of all, lets give them sometime for the update to go out to the 'other' devices.
If Acer updates our Iconias, then all is well. If not, well just have to rape their support pages/email/everything

Not sure I see anything too ominous in this announcement. On the plus side, the consortium is designed to reduce fragmentation, a huge complaint from the Google developer/user community. Perhaps Google's influence will prevail over the commercial monsters.
Just because Acer wasn't mentioned doesn't really portend anything bad, IMO. Not sure if they're just courting the flagship platforms and using them for an example, but I doubt seriously that means they're ignoring all the other platforms.
Sure, I'd like to see an update from the manufacturer, but I'd rather have a recovery first. I mean, I've only had the device for 2 weeks. How greedy can I really get?
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jimbobtexas said:
Not sure I see anything too ominous in this announcement. On the plus side, the consortium is designed to reduce fragmentation, a huge complaint from the Google developer/user community. Perhaps Google's influence will prevail over the commercial monsters.
Just because Acer wasn't mentioned doesn't really portend anything bad, IMO. Not sure if they're just courting the flagship platforms and using them for an example, but I doubt seriously that means they're ignoring all the other platforms.
Sure, I'd like to see an update from the manufacturer, but I'd rather have a recovery first. I mean, I've only had the device for 2 weeks. How greedy can I really get?
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I need to know they will be able to get recovery which is why I'm taking mine back. If recovery becomes available, I will purchase it again.
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I'm more concerned that the movie tab isn't available to us. Will it happen in a few weeks or does it require the drm hardware the Acer is missing.
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I'm not worried at all - about not seeing the onslaught of 'this update sucks' threads.

michaelg1030 said:
I need to know they will be able to get recovery which is why I'm taking mine back. If recovery becomes available, I will purchase it again.
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Looks like you should have bought a Xoom or Tranformer.

edgie168 said:
Looks like you should have bought a Xoom or Tranformer.
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Yeah.....
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What movie tab?
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What movie tab?
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I think he's referring to Google's newly announced movie rental service.
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Well, if he would of read further down the announcement its only available on the web at the moment with an update to the xoom coming and than the Rest of us will follow
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This sounds alot like the hysteria over updates Windows Phone 7 ,most of the **** isnt even noticable, the I cant wait for it to be perfect crowd!My suggestion is let Steven Jobs aupply you with there version of perfect and quit whining ,thank god the devs arent a bunch of titty sucking cry babies!
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Not worried, Acer states they will release updates by June on their a500 website. My guess is 3.1 will be coming then as well:
"720p is the current resolution supported. 1080p will be available by June 2011 via software upgrade. "
It surprises me how many folks are returning these so fast. Gotta have some patience...everything will progress forward, it just takes longer than 14 days most of the time. Of course something better will come, it always does. But this is still a nice device for the times. I knew I was an early adopter of the OS and the hardware when I bought...I'm in for the long haul unless something breaks

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Not worried, Acer states they will release updates by June on their a500 website. My guess is 3.1 will be coming then as well:
"720p is the current resolution supported. 1080p will be available by June 2011 via software upgrade. "
It surprises me how many folks are returning these so fast. Gotta have some patience...everything will progress forward, it just takes longer than 14 days most of the time. Of course something better will come, it always does. But this is still a nice device for the times. I knew I was an early adopter of the OS and the hardware when I bought...I'm in for the long haul unless something breaks
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I agree, people tend to get overeager when the newest updates come out and tend to forget the big picture or the fact that the A500 is still a great device that you can actually buy today!

Android 5.0 , coming to the xperia Play?

I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new

The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...

Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.

I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.

Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.

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Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.

@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.

I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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Android 5.0 (keylime pie?) Countdown thread

The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500

Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....

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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL

The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.

lowtje said:
The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it

7TimesCursed said:
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:

Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.

Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.

The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display

There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.

Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.

Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.

Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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[Q] How long do you think the Nexus 7 will be supported with OTA from Google?

Just want to see folks predictions about this really. How long do you think it will be before Google will leave it behind?
Nexus One: April/May 2010 - October 2011 (No offical update to 4.0+ )
Nexus S: December 2010 - October 2012 (No 4.2)
Really the Galaxy Nexus will be the next to feel google dropping support of OTA but how long does the N7 have? July 2012 - 2014/15?

i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)

darkmatthew said:
i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)
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No 4.3, 4.4, etc.?

Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.

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Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014

Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends

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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Yeah, that's better than nothing
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Exactly! Its a very capable device and its a Nexus.. We wont leave it behind!

I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect

I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy it while it's there.
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Mid to late 2014, is my guess but who knows maybe it will be for as long the hardware will support it
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I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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What about the Nexus One, S, and Galaxy Nexus? All pure android with no bloatware.
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hambino3 said:
I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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Samsung makes the nexus 10 not Asus...
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I feel the Nexus7 will continue to be supported as long as it can handle the new OS and until Google releases another 7in tablet
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).

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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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It will certainly not just be one more version, I expect 5.0 and at least 5.1 updates for our device. And when support stops it will be do to the lack of RAM (really wish they crammed 2GB in this thing)
As for apps, Google publishes Android guidelines. They can't hold a gun to developers heads and make them do things. Vote with your wallet on poorly designed apps, it isn't Google's job.