X+1 specs all but confirmed - Moto X General

Apparently a Brazilian retailer leaked the specs of the X+1. What do you guys think? Personally I would liked to have seen a slightly smaller screen.
http://www.examiner.com/article/motorola-moto-x-1-specifications-outed-by-brazilian-retailer

brett_day said:
Apparently a Brazilian retailer leaked the specs of the X+1. What do you guys think? Personally I would liked to have seen a slightly smaller screen.
http://www.examiner.com/article/motorola-moto-x-1-specifications-outed-by-brazilian-retailer
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These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.

The page said at the bottom 'confirm specs prior to launch' or some such thing. It's a placeholder page the sleezy click-bait sites are posting.

xd1936 said:
These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.
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i really hope that if this turns out to be true, one of the other companies will step in and come up with a great 4.7" device.

Yeah to me the 4.7-inch screen size is perfect. 5.2-inch is so weird....just a little too big for those that want a smaller phone, just a little too small for those that want a bigger screened phone. Otherwise the specs are pretty nice. If they can keep the price low enough though they will have a solid phone on their hands.

Oh for God's sake 5.2", really? Just have to go with the nonsense trend Moto? I hope the phone will not be bigger by more than 5-6% than the current one, but as I see it's not gonna happen!

xd1936 said:
These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.
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The market does want Moto X sized phones, but manufacturers don't. Bigger phones are cheaper to make more powerful, so the flagship phones will always be the biggest. The market wasn't given a choice, if you wanted a flagship you had to buy the biggest phone.
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I am hoping all these leaks are not of Moto X+1 but of some other phone (eg. Droid..) and Motorola is purposely allow these leaks to keep the all these parapazzi away from the ACTUAL Moto X+1. It would be so awesome

Would be amazing to see a 4.7" screen at 1080p. Would be the first of its kind I believe. I don't recall any phone offering 1080p resolution below a 5" screen phone.

Htc one (m7) my friend
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I just don't get the trend of having a 5" phone. Its not natural to hold in your hand. I'm just happy the moto x is such a great phone, I just don't feel the need to upgrade.

I'm not too concerned. They mentioned smaller bezels and there is more than enough bezel at the top of the x to keep a similar size and enlarge the screen. I'm more interested to see what else they improve and if they release it for a price that reflects it's specs or price it based on its competition with better specs again

Bring on the X+1, I recently picked up a Moto G to hold me over until the X+1 gets here. I suppose if the 5.2" is too crazy-big, I'll just stick with the G for a while longer.

+ 1000000.
I was really hoping they would stick with the screen size less than 5 in.
Guess i'll stick with my current moto x for now..

SymbioticGenius said:
there is more than enough bezel at the top of the x to keep a similar size and enlarge the screen.
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Not really. If you want to keep the same proportions, the screen can't be enlarged vertically without making the screen wider.

I look at my Nexus 7 2012 and then look at my Moto X.. What a difference.
The colors are so much more vivid on my X. It amazes me every time.. Makes working on my tablet "not fun" to see those drab colors, especially, when I know I have another device that has much better colors..
I am excited to see what the new screens look like. I don't think that .3 is going to make that much of a difference with most people.

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Why I Love My Moto X

Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 computing system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.
martinezma99 said:
Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
The only time you can see a difference on the screen is when comparing Moto X to a 1080 screen side by side. The 720 screen is very good but not the best. I understand the decision behind the 720. As for it being warm, yes it can be changed but not out of the box like other phones (Samsung). For now, I'm stock with default settings.
I love the Moto X and highly recommend it.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.
DonDizzurp said:
a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.
I Am Marino said:
I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.
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Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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barondebxl said:
Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
I Am Marino said:
Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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Not a deal breaker at all. Some folks claim that you can't tell the difference between a 1080p vs 720p which is completely false.
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I Am Marino said:
Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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It has nothing do with spec whores. It has everything to do with please your eye sight. If I personally can see a difference between 720p and 1080p then yes, its going to bother me. If its correctable thought some font/sorcery then we got something.
And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.
DammitCubs said:
And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.
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Because at the end of the day, it's still a HD screen with a PPI over 300 which is the supposed maximum amount a normal eye can notice.
I don't buy most people who say "Well I can see the difference" Not to discredit those of you who really might be able to but most are dead lying and I'm sure of it.
But as you said, to each their own.
anaphora68 said:
I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.
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I'd be really interested in hearing your thoughts on the Moto X vs the Moto Droid Maxx. From what I can gather, the Moto X has only three main benefits over the Maxx:
Moto maker customisation
Much better looking
A little bit cheaper
I'm not fussed about the customisation. It looking better and being a bit cheaper are nice but no way a deal breaker.
On the flip side, the Maxx as the following benefits:
Much bigger battery
Wireless charging
Larger screen (not that important for me)
In short, the benefits of the Moto X aren't that great for me. However, most of the benefits of the Maxx are massive bonuses for me.
With the main benefit of the Moto X being the customisation, I really don't know why people are choosing the Moto X over the Maxx especially with the following downsides to the customisation:
Not yet available
Will be carrier exclusive when it does start
Not all options will be available to start with (e.g. wood)
Some options will cost a premium (e.g. wood).
Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?
Techno79 said:
Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?
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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.
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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.
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I agree. I'll grant the Maxx is not as big a fingerprint magnet as the Ultra, but I still find the Droid line to be boxy and butt ugly. Not something I'm interested in at all.
DammitCubs said:
I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.
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barondebxl said:
You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.
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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.
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I just compared it to a GS4. So that's Amoled vs Amoled.......yeah I can still tell. It's noticeable. I must have amazing eyes.
Pixel density is pixel density. And the magic number isn't 316 ppi, it's higher. Resolution is the same as a dead pixel, once you notice it's flaw. it's over.
I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
Fatelord said:
I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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Two completely different screen technologies. You are always going to notice the difference between an Amoled and an LCD, regardless of PPI count. Funny, most people mention PPI as if they've been counting it all their lives. Screens are personal preferences, and people have different eyesights and color sensitivities, so there's no right answer. Just accept that and move on.
Fatelord said:
I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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They're just justifying things after the fact.
There is absolutely a difference. Granted, the X is better due to the lack of pentile, but I can still quite easily tell. It's not horrible in terms of pixel density, but the display isn't great by any other metric.

Pocketnow Moto X vs Nexus 5!

http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c
Just for laughs i posted this in the Nexus 5 forum and some of those guys did not take to kindly
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Just for laughs i posted this in the Nexus 5 forum and some of those guys did not take to kindly
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Everyone seems to have a rabid desire to defend their purchase.
i actually bought a nexus 5...but am strongly debating returning it and going moto x...lets see what this video makes me think. thanks op.
StephenMilone said:
i actually bought a nexus 5...but am strongly debating returning it and going moto x...lets see what this video makes me think. thanks op.
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No problem! hit the thanks button lol ps I had decided before this video to return my nexus 5 and keep my moto X this just solidified my feelings
mentose457 said:
Everyone seems to have a rabid desire to defend their purchase.
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People don't want to think that they "wasted" their money. Their happiness/enjoyment of the device comes second
yawdapaah said:
People don't want to think that they "wasted" their money. Their happiness/enjoyment of the device comes second
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I wasted my money and bought an N5. I think im gonna refuse delivery though. I dont think I can live with a big phone again and I dont think I can live without active notifications.
Like the video...seems fair. Given the fact that 4.4 is coming our way, specs are relatively less important. X really shines
I'm thinking about buying a Nexus 5 to play with My ATT X will probably still be my daily driver but the locked bootloader just doesn't scratch that flashaholic itch my GNex did.
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mentose457 said:
I wasted my money and bought an N5. I think im gonna refuse delivery though. I dont think I can live with a big phone again and I dont think I can live without active notifications.
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Lol hope I don't get flamed for that wasted statement.
I'm fairly tired of my GNex's size. Anything bigger is a no go.
I have an unlocked boot and haven't flashed anything on "my precious" lol
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Nice comparison, thanks for the video link OP. Glad I decided on the X ( of course I didn't need the video to tell me that LOL).
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Glad you guys are liking it !
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yawdapaah said:
Lol hope I don't get flamed for that wasted statement.
I'm fairly tired of my GNex's size. Anything bigger is a no go.
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No, I agree with you. I did waste money on the N5.
Send it back bro your still within 30 days
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I have the Moto X on Verizon and bought the Nexus 5 and had to get T-Mobile on it. So my vote is skewed because Verizon is 10x better here. But I love both, I do miss the Moto X's notifications and camera flip when using the Nexus. However I like the Nexus' camera much better but it feels almost too big in my hand. Plus the Moto X getting 4.4 will make software comparisons pointless. So honestly right now I'm kinda leaning towards selling the Nexus and staying with the X. But I have 29 days left on my prepaid T-Mobile so we'll see as it goes
This thread just got shut down in the nexus 5 forums because a few zealots couldn't have a good discussion with the rest of the adults
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AndreaCristiano said:
This thread just got shut down in the nexus 5 forums because a few zealots couldn't have a good discussion with the rest of the adults
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I had a look at that thread. Some of those guys were pretty rabid.
Reposted from same thread in N5 forum-
Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with all these points here. I MUCH prefer the screen on the Moto X to the one on the N5. I get that colors may be more accurate on the N5 but I'm not a photographer and my phone isn't supposed to be a reference monitor. The Moto X's screen just pops and its black levels are ridiculous. It's absolutely gorgeous and it is very difficult to use the N5 next to the Moto X. Lets not forget about the fact that the amoled technology allows for active notifications which are hands down the best thing since sliced bread. When not comparing it directly to the Moto X's screen, the N5's is passable, but its bad black levels and poor viewing angles are somethings that will take me a while to get used to.
I also agree about the speed. Anybody who makes the claim that the X uses outdated tech has no clue. It has krait 300 cores which are the same ones that are in the S600 which was this years main flagship SoC. Now it's not an S800, but it is current tech and the way Moto designed it with its extra "contextual computing" cores makes it MORE advanced than basic S600s. The fact that its dual core setup runs circles around the quad core that's in the GS4 and HTC One speaks volumes about optimization vs. raw power. I'm not talking about BS benchmarks here, I am talking about actual use because that is what matters. Side by side with the N5 there is no noticeable speed difference and both phones are equally smooth and lag free. I will say this though, for gaming the N5 is an absolute beast. The X handles gaming well too with its adreno 320 only having to deal with a 720p screen, but man this N5 might be the ultimate gaming phone thus far (Note 3 is too big for my liking). I've hidden my navbar so I game on it full screen. NOVA3, MW4, and NFS:MW are friggin unreal on this thing. If gaming is your primary concern, the N5 is definitely the way to go.
Cameras are a wash for me because I don't take many pictures. They are both acceptable to me. Can't say which one is better because I don't know. I like the fact that the N5 has OIS, but mainly because it adds extra bragging rights. No clue if it actually helps or not.
The biggest thing for me between these two phones besides the screen is the feel. Where the N5 literally feels like a hollow store mockup to me, the X feels like a solid premium device. Its contours make it hands down the nicest feeling device in hand that I have ever used. The N5 at first felt very uncomfortable to hold but as I get used to it more and more I am starting to like the way it feels as well. I definitely like the way it feels in hand better than my old HTC One and GS4 Active, just not better than the Moto X. There is nothing that feels like a Moto X.
Just to clarify, I really do like the N5. It has been growing on me since I got it the other day. It's just hard for me to use it when I have a Moto X sitting right here too. Both are great devices, they both have their own merits, but for me the Moto X is still king. It's really the screen that kills it the most for me with the N5. If LG used a screen as nice as say the HTC One's, I might be singing a completely different tune here. I will definitely be using the N5 whenever I want to play a graphically intensive game though, because holy sh!t it handles them like a boss. You really can't go wrong with either phone, I think they are the two best phone currently available.
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Yes I don't understand the blatant childishness. If you can't discuss like an adult the people who are causing the issue should be dealt with not the thread being closed
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MOTO X +1?

http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
So color me intrigued! Anyone else wondering when and what the MOTO X +1 will entail?
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http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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i agree with this exactly honestly i woulsdnt complain if there was a 5 inch screen but kept the same form factor... more stoked about the moto 360 then this though..
apparently it is going to come in a leather option. https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/452952150302527488
Im just waiting to hear if it's going to be the same size or not. If it's revealed that it will be a bigger phone than the X then I'll spend my money on the current X. I'd be happy if the next X kept the same size with just a camera upgrade. We'll see soon I hope.
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Holy leather macaroni! I need a black front white leather back with silver accents right now!:victory:
I swear I said it yesterday before it came out that it was gonna have a leather option! I also agree if the screen size grows i pray the form factor doesnt. I mean there is space now to remove that can increase the screen and minimilize bezels
If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
alex94kumar said:
If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
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one thing that the X "failed" at was competing in the "more is everything" spec war. which is entirely unfortunate given this is easily the best android device i've owned since the original DROID. with that said, i don't want Moto to give in to the spec war. previous articles have mentioned that whatever the X successor will be, it will be a "premium" model.
so far for the X+1, i've seen reports of a 6" screen, which is absolutely and completely a horrible idea. if they shrunk the bezel to "nothing" and kept the form factor, then fine, increase the screen. but the form factor is damn near perfect.
and honestly, i wouldn't care if they kept the most of the same internals, but more RAM, extra storage and wireless charging top my list as things that are a must with the new device. or if they're going to skip wireless charge, a bigger battery.
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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Jamolah said:
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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AKA Droid Maxx
Camera of course--13 mpix at least, but more importantly, some additional settings options, such as shutter speed. Better color balance too.
Go to 32 gB standard, with possible microSD support. Water/dust proofing also a plus; it's a functional feature that doesn't necessarily give in to the spec wars that the X eschewed in the first place.
Screen size increase? Meh. Right now I can work the phone with one hand/thumb. If it gets bigger, then not so much. If they can do something with bezel size and screen real estate with the current body size, then fine.
Screen resolution? If your eyes can't tell the difference, much greater resolution only draws more battery power. As does going quadcore--remember, Moto's own research supposedly showed that even their quadcore competitors' phones didn't use more than two cores at any time.
If they keep to close the current size, then battery capacity isn't likely to grow much, so retaining efficiency is paramount.
Nor do I care about front facing speakers, ala HTC. I don't listen to much music with phone speakers, and the quality is fine for interacting with the phone's TTV engine.
Finally, I am still a skeptic about wireless charging, if only because of the probability that it can heat the battery excessively, killing overall longevity.
Unlike wood, leather backs are not my thing--what's next, chinchilla?
I think the X+1 is not the 2014 X. Maybe it meants 4.7+1 = 5.7in phablet? maybe they have another name for the X?
If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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cartmenicus said:
If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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The leak picture actually sayS +X1. JPNo idea why everyone's stuck to +1
I would be persuaded to upgrade if they added:
Wireless charging
Bigger capacity battery
Better camera
Upgraded specs
Even more waterproofing
I'm hoping they don't change the size or form-factor as it's perfect for me. I don't really care about a leather back as I love the woven back.
Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
x2h said:
give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
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honestly they are becoming extinct and the desire for them wont make that change manufactures want you to buy up for memory why would they want you to buy the cheapest model and allow you to upgrade the memory outside their pockets?
all i know is if they make the phone larger, i am going to have to look for a different phone or stay with this one till it dies. i have had the One, S4, Nexus 5 and pretty much any high end device in recent years and one of the main reason i love my X is due to its size.

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Looks like the Moto X may be a keeper with a 5.2" screen.
Looks very pleasant. Concerned a little bit about the battery size though
Same about the battery, big concern if this thing cant last a whole day. Should be at least a 2700mAh battery with a screen over 5 inches. Unless moto made some big changes to background software for the battery (and the L preview's project volte being a battery saver), I might just wait and see.
No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
i'm very interested in seeing the actual performance of this phone. i have high hopes for the camera and additional functionality they're claiming. all-in-all i'll have to hold it before i make my decision.
Currently a Note 2 user, I was pleased to see the size increase on the Moto X. I'm concerned abotu the battery, though. Right now I'm torn between the Note 4, LG G3, Moto X, and Nexus 6/X.
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No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
Maybe?
Very disappointed to see the increased size, though it was inevitable.. I have been looking forward to this phone for months because of the innovation and engineering that went into the original moto x. Using separate processing elements for different parts of the phone is, I think, the absolute key to the battery life/functionality equation. I've been waiting for a company to split the UI and external features (screen, mics, cameras, etc..) off from the core phone functionality to save juice for a long time. When the screen is off, there should be little need to run the main processor, and therefore it should be kinder to its battery. I do need to know if this unit will have a replaceable battery, unfortunately its a complete no-go for me if it doesn't..
Hoping for the best!:good:
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
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Thanks that's useful to hear as that's quite a key requirement for me with a phone.
I was thinking about replacing my rooted GS4 with this one but I wonder whats coming down the pipe from the Nexus and LG
If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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If there is a Dev edition then I'll buy immediately.
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If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014 XT1092 unlocked version, including sprint
I like the size increase. I would rather it stayed at 5 inch screen instead of 5.2 but the battery size should have been bumped to 2600. Even if they are going to release a Moto Maxx version with a 3000 battery. Not sure if I will get this now or wait until the Nexus X before I ditch my VZW unlimited for greener pastures.
let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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I'll probably wait to see what the next nexus phone is and then make a decision. Hopefully by then, there will be more clarification on what the Moto maXx is . I'd really like a 2014 Moto X with a larger capacity battery. For me that's the only thing it's really missing.
I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
the new X is a good 1-2mm thinner than the old one at the edges. i'd say there's room for a 4000mAh battery.
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I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
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That's great news for you then.
Way too big for my taste, and I've become a big Moto fan since owning the X. What ever happened to all that research done to come up with the original X being the perfect size? Hope they do a blow out sale on the original X and I'll pick up a spare if the price is good. I understand the trend towards bigger phones, but all the Android manufacturers leaving behind high spec more compact models is VERY disappointing.

Which is worse the size or the price?

Which do you find more disappointing or will be more likely to keep you from getting the Nexus 6, the size or the price?
They made it 6 because they did not want itnto hurt moto x sales i guess and a phone in phablet section
Size!!! Because I think everyone can agree when I say that the specs are worth every top dollar except for the size...
The size is my favorite part. I don't think it's badly priced for what it brings to the table either.
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They made it 6 because they did not want itnto hurt moto x sales i guess and a phone in phablet section
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That was never an issue for the past two Nexus phones made by LG that had same sized LG counterparts.
They wanted a phablet so developers could develop for phablets. Why they did not also make a smaller Nexus 6 for the huge number of people who hate the size, I do not know, but I think their reasoning was stupid whatever it was.
that damn size.....OMG! worst move ever...
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The size is my favorite part. I don't think it's badly priced for what it brings to the table either.
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Yeah, I can live with the price. It would be nice if it's cheaper. But I don't buy a new phone every year, so I can scrape together the money for the awesome specs (much better specs than the Moto X).
But I just don't want a huge phablet. Super disappointing to me. My sense is that the majority of users don't want a phablet (they currently only make up 14% of the global market).
I do understand though that there are many people who like phablets and so for them the Nexus 6 is an amazing device, really the best Nexus device yet and the nicest design since the Nexus One (LG and Samsung just make cheap designs, as far as I'm concerned).
I'm gonna definitely have to say the price.. my bank account is crying right now:crying:
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that damn size.....OMG! worst move ever...
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. And nice to see someone from Berkeley!
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. And nice to see someone from Berkeley!
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Heyyyy
I was honestly hoping for a second set of handset with smaller size...heck, it did not even have to come with those killer specs. I just wanted an upgraded nexus 5 lol with maybe 5.5 inch to make my debute into the nexus line...now im caught in a loop about big devices
Price. But I don't care. Still gonna get it. Haha.
There's no reason it had to be 10.1mm thick at its deepest points. Other similar phones have spaced in identical or larger batteries in a significantly thinner frame.
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Heyyyy
I was honestly hoping for a second set of handset with smaller size...heck, it did not even have to come with those killer specs. I just wanted an upgraded nexus 5 lol with maybe 5.5 inch to make my debute into the nexus line...now im caught in a loop about big devices
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Yeah, I was definitely hoping there would be a second smaller Nexus 6. I would be happy with basically a Nexus version of the Moto X that it's based on, with the 5.2" screen. Although the OIS and the stereo speakers are nice, that's definitely an improvement over the Moto X. That said, I guess the best alternative for a smaller screen is the Moto X, though it will never get all the development and roms a Nexus device will have (the 1st Gen Moto X basically had no development).
Maybe you can just save your money and spend it at Moe's Books and Gordo's Burritos instead. There are more important things in life, right?
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There's no reason it had to be 10.1mm thick at its deepest points. Other similar phones have spaced in identical or larger batteries in a significantly thinner frame.
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I think because it's so thin at the edges, there's less space for the components, which have to be more in the middle, than with a phone that has one even thickness edge to edge. I'm pretty sure that's why the battery in the 2nd Gen Moto X is relatively small, even though it's a pretty large 5.2" screen device. It's not about thickness at the middle, it's about overall internal volume and geometry of the phone.
My Note 3 already feels a tiny bit small.....the extra screen size will be welcome. Especially with front facing stereo speakers. It's like my wifes HTC One M8 but much nicer. The Note 4 moved back to a rear facing single speaker.......screw that noise. Price? I'll be edge'ing up to the N6 so it won't matter.
Neither. When looking at the complete line up, starting from the Nexus 5, Moto x (2nd gen), Nexus 6, Nexus 9.. Google caters to all tastes. As for the price, it is STILL competitive considering specs and materials. Google+Motorola+HTC did a great job by having something for everyone.
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My Note 3 already feels a tiny bit small.....the extra screen size will be welcome. Especially with front facing stereo speakers. It's like my wifes HTC One M8 but much nicer. The Note 4 moved back to a rear facing single speaker.......screw that noise. Price? I'll be edge'ing up to the N6 so it won't matter.
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Yeah, it's a great upgrade from the Note 3. If you're already happy with that size phone, then there's nothing to complain about.
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Neither. When looking at the complete line up, starting from the Nexus 5, Moto x (2nd gen), Nexus 6, Nexus 9.. Google caters to all tastes. As for the price, it is STILL competitive considering specs and materials. Google+Motorola+HTC did a great job by having something for everyone.
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The Nexus 5 is a year old phone with year old specs. I do not count that as part of the current "lineup." It does not have a 64 GB option; it does not have 3 GB of RAM; it has last year's Snapdragon chipset with a slower CPU and GPU; it does not have Wifi Direct; it does not have stereo speakers; it has crappy noise cancellation. The Nexus 5 is a perfectly good phone, but it's last year's phone, and it's only going to get older and more out of date, while waiting for the next Nexus phone and hoping it has a smaller option.
The 2nd Gen Moto X is not a Nexus phone and will get zero development (like the 1st Gen Moto X). It will also be dependent on Motorola for Android updates, with inevitable (if hopefully short) delays, and will not work properly with direct updates from Google (which would disable the special Motorola features like active notifications and Moto voice). That definitely does not count as part of the Nexus lineup.
I think the only honest way to look at it is that the Nexus 6 is the new king of hill Nexus device. It has lots of great upgrades. It is one of the best phones currently out there. And if you don't like the screen size you are out of luck.
I agree with most of what you said, although the Nexus 5 is still and will probably be amazing for several upcoming months. Hell, I would reccommend people to upgrade to it - those that need an upgrade but are turned off by the Nexus 6.
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I agree with most of what you said, although the Nexus 5 is still and will probably be amazing for several upcoming months. Hell, I would reccommend people to upgrade to it - those that need an upgrade but are turned off by the Nexus 6.
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Yeah, the Nexus 5 is great (except for the crappy noise cancellation), no doubt about it. But it is a fary cry from the Nexus 6. It is in no way a smaller but otherwise equivalent device.
The size is just too damn big! Couldn't they stay at a 5" screen!
In another thread someone pointed to a more complex poll with more respondents on this question (size and price) at Reddit. So if you like voting in polls, here's another chance.
Poll:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mLrlUA7RrwTE7n5_E0u3Kk9bD93QclhMT4pynNPh3BY/viewform?usp=send_form
Poll Results:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mL...lhMT4pynNPh3BY/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm
Thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jdr40/meta_nexus_device_poll_for_randroid/
Interestingly, despite have many more respondents, its results are similar to my poll.

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