I read the L is supposed to have some great improvements with ART. Has anyone tried using ART with the rooted debloated/deodexed ROMs? What differences did you notice?
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dan0326 said:
I read the L is supposed to have some great improvements with ART. Has anyone tried using ART with the rooted debloated/deodexed ROMs? What differences did you notice?
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theres a few roms out there that support ART and some that cautiously support it. havent tried it myself but very eager to if it is indeed stable.
dan0326 said:
I read the L is supposed to have some great improvements with ART. Has anyone tried using ART with the rooted debloated/deodexed ROMs? What differences did you notice?
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I used ART on the stock rom, rooted, and the only difference I saw was a significant decrease in the available memory (internal). I went from about 86% free using Delvek to 76% free when I changed to ART. I used TiBu to clear Delvek but that didn't improve the available memory at all. Not sure why the big difference, but it was significant.
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What is the best tweak MOD for the RAZR M?
Battery Life: TESTING...
Smoothness/speed: Pure Performance X Gold Edition
Features: Pimp My ROM
Pure Performance X Gold Edition
Pimp My ROM
CrossBreader
Fly-On
ODEX (Compatible with any of the above)
I have to go with x-breeder, its been my go to mod for a while now. If i remember correctly pimp my rom can help "pimp" a stock rom which is pretty cool.
Its worth noting that I have not used fly-on and am still on a 4.2.2 Rom.
SD swap. As implemented in the Avsitralia deodexed mod rom. Basically renders internal for system use. You can still use internal if you want.
YEah, I tried out Pimp My ROM... that was a fail.
Both the Aroma & App versions failed to create a rescue.zip, along with all of their other features.
Switching to crossbreeder...
lukkypuggy said:
What is the best tweak MOD for the RAZR M?
Battery Life:
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Pimp My ROM
CrossBreader
Fly-On
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I use this + Pimp My ROM
Killjoy is awesome script!
St.Noigel said:
I use this + Pimp My ROM
Killjoy is awesome script!
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It says DO NOT use any other tweaks with this package...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
THIS WORKS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lukkypuggy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
THIS WORKS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Please specify what version you tried?
Thanks.
aviwdoowks said:
Please specify what version you tried?
Thanks.
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Just the latest version... 1.4.x
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Just the latest version... 1.4.x
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Cm or stock? I guess cm as I see from your sig...
What ROM are you using? CM based (Carbon, PAC, Slimbean etc...) or Stock lol
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What ROM are you using? CM based (Carbon, PAC, Slimbean etc...) or Stock lol
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The DD in my with. You must be on a cm variant.
How does the mod work? Is it initd based?
Review?
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The DD in my with. You must be on a cm variant.
How does the mod work? Is it initd based?
Review?
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Click the link and it will provide a full description.
It speeds up the UI drastically, it is smooth like butter
I highly recommend this over crossbreeder.
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lukkypuggy said:
Click the link and it will provide a full description.
It speeds up the UI drastically, it is smooth like butter
I highly recommend this over crossbreeder.
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It works in a totally different way than XBreeder, and I'm pretty sure you can use them together. Also, the issues with many of the those types of mods is that they eat battery. They claim to save on battery, but I've tested a lot of them and almost every one of them eats up battery.
I think I'm starting to notice that... But it defiantly does what it says, best performance I've ever had on this.
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I think I'm starting to notice that... But it defiantly does what it says, best performance I've ever had on this.
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Yeah, with every mod that I've run the phone will fly, but with performance comes battery drain.
What is the best mod for battery life in your opinion?
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What is the best mod for battery life in your opinion?
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I used to use Supremacy, but it's pretty old and is not updated. However, it is a real light init.d script that doesn't touch build.prop at all. I would use this on stock CM and helped and didn't drain the battery much at all. On any ROM that's not stock CM, I only run XBreeder. A lot of ROMs have tweaks build in that we can't see, so I just leave it up to developer to give us a good product.
Haven't really seen any noticeable battery drain on xbreeder but not doing any scientifically sound tests... Just general use
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OK so I pulled my old Dinc out and fired up 4.2.2 on it with the performance and xbreeder mods... Wow! It competes with my RAZR m when it doesn't have the mod, and it doesn't kill the battery either!
I figured out the battery consumption problem also
It is not in any of the mods, it is your wakelocks.
I've found "Google Services" as a whole is the big bad wolf to look out for. I suggest turn off all location related services (NlpWakeLock). Also make sure NFC is turned off if you really don't ever use it.
I suggest flashing both xbreeder AND Pure Performance for best results.
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Hi, if you've been using ART on 4.4 Roms, would you say the increase in speed is real, and have you noticed an improvement in battery life?
I tried ART yesterday and I thought it was incredibly fast, but now I wonder if it wasn't placebo.
I had to revert to Dalvik, though, because Whatsapp doesn't work in ART, but I am interested in people's opinions of ART.
No and no. Everything feels quite the same. I think it's placebo at the moment.
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Apps have not been built for art yet.
Good, then we shall fight in the shade!
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Apps have not been built for art yet.
Good, then we shall fight in the shade!
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You dont need to rebuild applications except few cases - they will crash anyway on ART.
They just replaced JIT with AOT compilation and threw away Dalvik as its not needed in case of AOT translation anymore.
Well, not yet but they plan to do so.
After I switched to ART I had constant force closes from Gapps to the point of almost having to factory wipe from recovery.
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Try odexed gapps
I think/know it is faster. (mostly in listviews)
You can tell it in apps such as XDA developers -> there are no to far less hickups/stutters with ART.
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Uups: Thought I'm in the Nexus5 forums,
so my comment is based on my experience with ART + Nexus5.
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Chrome seems faster but I'm not sure yet. The only app I had trouble with is Ti backup. I'm sure he'll release an update for it.
Does it make a difference to ART being on official Kit Kat or is it the same?
It does feel a little bit faster. It's gonna take a little while longer until we feel the real difference between ART and Dalvik.
Soon as ART ready apps start to come out, then we might have a show
So although I tried it, I went back to Dalvik for app compability reasons. I'll give it a try in a couple weeks or so.
When I enabled ART
My Nexus Boot looped..
Im running stock 4.4 ota, Deodexed.
Zaphodspeaks said:
My Nexus Boot looped..
Im running stock 4.4 ota, Deodexed.
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You need to be running an odexed rom to use ART.
Yeah..
blackhand1001 said:
You need to be running an odexed rom to use ART.
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I sort of figured that.. I originally put on the Stock OTA, had everything going well..
Then I flashed a Deodexed version someone shared..
Made a Nandroid backup so if I want to play with Stock.. Ill give it a whirl..
So far I've had no issues, but I really dont see much benefit from upgrading..
I was so looking forward to using the new Launcher.. I might just flash back to my trusty Carbon Rom with Faux kernel.
Ill wait until the kernel source and the Stock image is posted
Running non rooted N7 fhd with official 4.4. Changed to ART and the tablet is literally flying.
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Can anyone running art say how much the droidbooster app says the performance increase is? On jb it was 5.5-6 times, I wonder how much increase we can still expect from the flexycore acquisition.
http://wap.stevebasu.net/android-app-download/en/50435/DroidBooster_1.0-apk.html
Modern Combat 4, FIFA14, and Dead Effect all crashed using ART
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martin707 said:
Modern Combat 4, FIFA14, and Dead Effect all crashed using ART
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It's hard to notice any differences in speed when using ART, I tried it on my N5 but quickly went back to Dalvik because of WhatsApp being broken,
saying that, I am trying it on my Nexus 7 now. I regularly use the app 'UberSocial' for Twitter. It has always lagged when scrolling through my timeline but I continued to use it because of functionality. After I switched to ART, it no longer lags. No placebo, I use the app frequently enough to notice and it's a huge improvement. Scrolling is WAY smoother than I've ever experienced on this app before now.
So yeah, things are looking promising for Android 5.0.
True, but you only had your new phone for weeks. I had my tablet for 3 months now. It should be it noticeable when opening and closing apps
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so far
I can feel a difference when using cool reader and i open books that are very large, also when i use adobe for reading sfx magazine its amazing now there is no lag no matter how large the filesize... the only real dissapointment for me was that camera VF-5 doesnt work on art sniff sniff
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Can anyone running art say how much the droidbooster app says the performance increase is? On jb it was 5.5-6 times, I wonder how much increase we can still expect from the flexycore acquisition.
http://wap.stevebasu.net/android-app-download/en/50435/DroidBooster_1.0-apk.html
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2.6 with ART
5.8 - 6.0 with Dalvik
Hey I have android 4.4.2 should I use ART? what are the pros an con's of ART?
how it's affect battery and preferences?
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ART is more batteryfriendly and gives you better performance.
If you use Xposed you can't use ART because is doesn't support it yet.
Guller said:
ART is more batteryfriendly and gives you better performance.
If you use Xposed you can't use ART because is doesn't support it yet.
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ok thx! there is something else that doesnt work?
tomshimshon said:
ok thx! there is something else that doesnt work?
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Titanium Back up force closes on ART
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Nova launcher doesn't work either.
Your GApps should be odexed** or all your apps will FC
**(PA-GApss or broodplanks Lite GApps for example)
Any how is this possible? Like in M8 ARHD there's ART mode option.
Any ROM here can make this possible? S800 version.
KiD3991 said:
Any how is this possible? Like in M8 ARHD there's ART mode option.
Any ROM here can make this possible? S800 version.
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Afaik only the S5 supports ART out of the box, maybe others like the Note 3 and S4 will follow.
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Afaik only the S5 supports ART out of the box, maybe others like the Note 3 and S4 will follow.
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Oh well. Thanks for the info.
I am flashing for a friend that is suffering from serious battery drain issues. So I wanted her to use ART.
ART (Android run time) is an experimental alternative to Dalvik
First introduced on Nexus 5 I believe.
My understanding was it was work in progress as not all apps would run on it.
This was the case back in Oct 2013 when Nexus 5 was released
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gee2012 said:
Afaik only the S5 supports ART out of the box, maybe others like the Note 3 and S4 will follow.
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Oh well. Thanks for the info.
I am flashing for a friend that is suffering from serious battery drain issues. So I wanted her to use ART.
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I never noticed much of a difference when using ART on AOSP but I do want to try it on tw. A friend of mine that has the S5 says ART is actually slower than dalvik on tw. That's the only reason why I want to try to see for myself on the note 3..
paul_59 said:
ART (Android run time) is an experimental alternative to Dalvik
First introduced on Nexus 5 I believe.
My understanding was it was work in progress as not all apps would run on it.
This was the case back in Oct 2013 when Nexus 5 was released
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He wasn't asking what ART is. He was asking if note 3 has ART. And it clearly doesn't. So far only AOSP roms have ART on the note 3.
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Khizar said:
I never noticed much of a difference when using ART on AOSP but I do want to try it on tw. A friend of mine that has the S5 says ART is actually slower than dalvik on tw. That's the only reason why I want to try to see for myself on the note 3..
He never asked about noticing differences on ASOP roms utilising ART or speed comparison he was asking if any roms had ART included, good idea if you provided a link
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maxilick said:
Khizar said:
I never noticed much of a difference when using ART on AOSP but I do want to try it on tw. A friend of mine that has the S5 says ART is actually slower than dalvik on tw. That's the only reason why I want to try to see for myself on the note 3..
He never asked about noticing differences on ASOP roms utilising ART or speed comparison he was asking if any roms had ART included, good idea if you provided a link
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Does the S5 on Verizon run well using ART? If enabling ART, what Apps don't work? Lastly, If I root the S5 and use Titanium to freeze or uninstall Apps, Will Art effect it ?
Thanks!
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Does the S5 on Verizon run well using ART? If enabling ART, what Apps don't work? Lastly, If I root the S5 and use Titanium to freeze or uninstall Apps, Will Art effect it ?
Thanks!
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I personally didn't care for ART as it was glitchy on my device. Your results may be different. I encountered more than a few apps while running ART that force closed a lot. Can't remember them now as I am rooted on Dalvik. Can't speak for the last question.
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Does the S5 on Verizon run well using ART? If enabling ART, what Apps don't work? Lastly, If I root the S5 and use Titanium to freeze or uninstall Apps, Will Art effect it ?
Thanks!
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I ran ART on my Dev Edition S5 for a day or two and didn't experience any FCs on apps. What I did notice is a pretty significant decrease in available system memory when running ART. I have since discontinued using ART, I didn't see any improvements and didn't like the significant decrease in available system memory.
I didn't notice any difference in speed. But I figure it's the future so what the hell.
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I feel pretty much the same as everyone else about art at this point in time. I don't bother with it. I don't see any value in it.
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