[Q] Backing up phone BEFORE rooting? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm about to take my baby steps and root my Nexus 4 for the first time. I've read the sticky's and have a good idea of what I'd be doing, but I don't see much in the way of backing things up before root and as I understand, rooting wipes your data. Can anyone help me on this or at least better understand what I should do?
I'm also having difficulty understanding the whole bootloader and custom recovery too but not too much trouble. I'd just like to know how to install a custom recovery and how much risk I'm at of messing up my bootloader.

PGvossman said:
I'm about to take my baby steps and root my Nexus 4 for the first time. I've read the sticky's and have a good idea of what I'd be doing, but I don't see much in the way of backing things up before root and as I understand, rooting wipes your data. Can anyone help me on this or at least better understand what I should do?
I'm also having difficulty understanding the whole bootloader and custom recovery too but not too much trouble. I'd just like to know how to install a custom recovery and how much risk I'm at of messing up my bootloader.
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Rooting does not wipe data, the unlocking process does. There is no really good way to backup everything prior to unlokcing, you could use My Backup but you should really use the Pro version which is $4.99 (Many people swear by it for unrooted phones, I have no real experience with it). Wugfresh's toolkit has a backup and restore when doing unlock, but honestly, it messed up my phone and I had to factory default anyways.
As long as you are syncing stuff to Google (contacts, pictures, videos, etc), have Android Backup& Restore enabled (handles apps and common system settings), SMS Backup & Restore (text and pix messages), and you pull of the other files you want, there is no real need to backup at all. I swap ROMs all the time, and this is all I do to go from one ROM to another.
As far as the actual rooting process, ie. flashing SuperSU, there is no need to backup prior to that... all that is going to do is add a few files in some system directories and that's it.
The greatest thing about a Nexus device is it's ability to be modified... and within normal means it is virtually unbrickable, so give it a shot, and if you screw it up ask for help, thousands of people here have done it and can help, and if you still can't figure out a problem just restore the Google system images and whoalla... your phone is back to out of box condition.

You are able to root and unlock without wiping any data. Just check out my guide (the link is in the stickies, too)

mihahn said:
You are able to root and unlock without wiping any data. Just check out my guide (the link is in the stickies, too)
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I opened your links but they all seem to be about Xperia devices.
I don't quite understand. Isn't the unlocking process needed to root the phone, thereby loosing all the data?

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before rooting, you hav to unlock bootloader and it wipes your all pics videos etc so better backup in your pc and thn try root. foloow guide ,its easy, or search on youtube for videos...

parveen75 said:
before rooting, you hav to unlock bootloader and it wipes your all pics videos etc so better backup in your pc and thn try root. foloow guide ,its easy, or search on youtube for videos...
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OK I guess that makes sense. Does that include phone contacts, SMS and passwords?
And I suppose my final question is the danger of the bootloader. Is it possible for a newbie like myself to ruin something accidentally?

PGvossman said:
I opened your links but they all seem to be about Xperia devices.
I don't quite understand. Isn't the unlocking process needed to root the phone, thereby loosing all the data?
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Yeah I meant the one in the stickies here, I'll add the guide to my signature later
But I meant this guide. It'll root before unlocking the bootloader and you are able to unlock without wiping then. Check it out

PGvossman said:
OK I guess that makes sense. Does that include phone contacts, SMS and passwords?
And I suppose my final question is the danger of the bootloader. Is it possible for a newbie like myself to ruin something accidentally?
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I m also a newbie earlier . lol.. Only follow guide corectly for rooting.. U wl b good to go
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mihahn said:
Yeah I meant the one in the stickies here, I'll add the guide to my signature later
But I meant this guide. It'll root before unlocking the bootloader and you are able to unlock without wiping then. Check it out
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Thanks. Where does the whole custom recovery and such come into play on this though?

PGvossman said:
Thanks. Where does the whole custom recovery and such come into play on this though?
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It's not necessary to flash the recovery, but you may flash it if you want to and if you need it

Couple ways to do a backup without root.
Use adb,
eg. adb backup -all -apk -nosystem
Then pull files you want to backup
eg. adb pull /sdcard/
Or use helium app available from play store which is basically a gui for the adb backup command.

Thanks. I notice the -nosystem command, does that mean it won't back up system details?
I suppose my final question is Windows 8 support. I saw a thread a while back when you have to do something extra for the drivers and I can't seem to see it in the sticky threads.

Related

Rooting Desire Z 2.3.3

/Update: Rooting went fine. Updated this thread - maybe it helps if somebody wants to root his/her 2.3.3 DZ and is being overwhelmed by guides etc.
Hi there!
I finally decided to root my Stock 2.3.3 Desire Z - I've read a lot, but I'm still confused when it comes to certain steps of rooting. I just wanted to get "green light" by someone who certainly has more experience in rooting etc.
First I read this ADB guide to get familiar with it. I certainly didn't understand everything about it, but the basic stuff should be clear.
Next step is downgrading my phone. I want to use this guide as mentioned in the HTC Vision wiki.
Which raises the first question: What's with that post, which Desire Z users should read. I don't really see the connection to the guide I want to use - it's stated that one should replace psneuter with fre3vo in step 4. But which step 4? Little confused.
So which step is different to execute for me?
No step is different, the guide is up to date and can be used with every device stated in its headline.
Next steps should be clear.
So after downgrading I planned on sticking with the Vision wiki - seems that every step is described clearly, even for an ADB dummy.
If everything went well, I planned to flash the Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 which requires a "full wipe".
So it's nonsense to save application settings via titanium backup in the first place, because I want to set Virous 2.0.0 as backup-rom anyway? Are there files I should backup - besides contact info etc.?
Application settings can be restored if you stick to the downgrade guide, only system settings/stuff should not be restored.
And am I missing anything important? Are there other (better) ways of rooting my device?
No
Tiny, rather unimportant last question - is there a way to save my savegames to just load them later if needed? Since the "full wipe" wipes everything (?), I don't see how I could save them.
See above.
Looking forward to be enlightened!
Greetings!
Kueber said:
Hi there!
I finally decided to root my Stock 2.3.3 Desire Z - I've read a lot, but I'm still confused when it comes to certain steps of rooting. I just wanted to get "green light" by someone who certainly has more experience in rooting etc.
First I read this ADB guide to get familiar with it. I certainly didn't understand everything about it, but the basic stuff should be clear.
Next step is downgrading my phone. I want to use this guide as mentioned in the HTC Vision wiki.
Which raises the first question: What's with that post, which Desire Z users should read. I don't really see the connection to the guide I wan't to use - it's stated that one should replace psneuter with fre3vo in step 4. But which step 4? Little confused.
So which step is different to execute for me?
Next steps should be clear.
So after downgrading I planned on sticking with the Vision wiki - seems that every step is described clearly, even for an ADB dummy.
If everything went well, I planned to flash the Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 which requires a "full wipe".
So it's nonsense to save application settings via titanium backup in the first place, because I want to set Virous 2.0.0 as backup-rom anyway? Are there files I should backup - besides contact info etc.?
And am I missing anything important? Are there other (better) ways of rooting my device?
Tiny, rather unimportant last question - is there a way to save my savegames to just load them later if needed? Since the "full wipe" wipes everything (?), I don't see how I could save them.
Looking forward to be enlightened!
Greetings!
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I followed the downgrading guide you linked to in order to downgrade from 2.3.3 and it worked perfectly for me (and many others, it seems). The guide uses fre3vo so I think you are safe to just follow the steps described in it.
I used SMS Backup & Restore and Angry Birds Backup free, both worked a treat. Other than that I restored everything from scratch.
It's probably a good idea to do a nandroid backup after rooting the stock froyo ROM but before flashing something else. Just in case.
Good luck
Yeah, and you probably should have posted this in Q&A
Eventually it would have been better, yup, but then I considered this thread more like a list of steps you want to go through to root your Desire Z 2.3.3 successfully - maybe it helps someone.
Anyway, thanks for your answer. I'll try that SMS Backup app.
Now I have to gather some informations about that "nandroid" backup - I've read it several times, but still I don't know what exactly it does / its benefits are.
If anyone would like to give a brief explanation, feel free!
Greetings
/edit: Well, a nandroid backup can be done with clockwork recovery, which installation is kinda part of the rooting process. There's one thing I don't understand yet - how to load that backup if it's needed?
Kueber said:
Now I have to gather some informations about that "nandroid" backup - I've read it several times, but still I don't know what exactly it does / its benefits are.
If anyone would like to give a brief explanation, feel free!
Greetings
/edit: Well, a nandroid backup can be done with clockwork recovery, which installation is kinda part of the rooting process. There's one thing I don't understand yet - how to load that backup if it's needed?
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Part of the rooting process gives you a better recovery partition that you can boot into, where you can flash roms, backup/restore ROMs and has some other tools,this is independent of the ROM you flash and is a safety net when messing with your phone.
bombadier said:
Part of the rooting process gives you a better recovery partition that you can boot into, where you can flash roms, backup/restore ROMs and has some other tools,this is independent of the ROM you flash and is a safety net when messing with your phone.
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So, essentially, as you already mentioned, that means I got safety tools that work independent. For example - if everything goes wrong and I have a copy of that nandroid backup somewhere, I could easily adb push that onto my sd card and flash it? Or has this backup to be on my sd card all the time, because in certain cases the sd-card is not mountable?
Just want to make sure that I understand what I'm doing..
Kueber said:
So, essentially, as you already mentioned, that means I got safety tools that work independent. For example - if everything goes wrong and I have a copy of that nandroid backup somewhere, I could easily adb push that onto my sd card and flash it? Or has this backup to be on my sd card all the time, because in certain cases the sd-card is not mountable?
Just want to make sure that I understand what I'm doing..
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You don't have to have the nandroid backup on your SD card at all times. You can do a backup, copy it to your computer and keep it there if you need the space on your SD card for daily use. There is also the possibility to keep multiple backups of different ROMs if you wish to change UI more often.
Whatever your needs, you should at least keep one backup from a stable setup. If anything goes wrong you can copy it back to your SD card (if it is not already there), boot into recovery (volume down + power) and choose backup/restore and restore your backup. Everything will be exactly as it was when backing up - very convenient
Everything went fine, updated thread - maybe it helps someone.
Thanks again!
Good to hear it went well
Got full root access and all the way to step 5 on the Wiki and go to verify that it worked and I get the...
secu_flag = 1
CID = T-MOB010
SIMLOCK = 01
Please disregard.
For my DZ:
secu_flag = 0
CID = 11111111
SIMLOCK = 00
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which method do i follow to just root my Desire z.
I dont want to update h-boot, or install clockwork recovery.
My device has S-off with stock htc sense rom...i just want root
sandipbarik said:
which method do i follow to just root my Desire z.
I dont want to update h-boot, or install clockwork recovery.
My device has S-off with stock htc sense rom...i just want root
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Just follow the xda Vision wiki.. read it attentively.
You'll see that you can just skip these steps.
Im using that method & rooted my DZ.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
look, I don't want to downgrade my system.
I want to root 2.3.3. is this possible ?
artur-x said:
look, I don't want to downgrade my system.
I want to root 2.3.3. is this possible ?
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You can't root 2.3.3 directly. In order to root you need to first downgrade to 2.2 and then root. Afterwards you can choose to install a rooted 2.3.3 stock ROM, a custom ROM with 2.3.5 or 2.3.7 depending on what you choose. Or you can try out one of the ICS alphas.
Sendt fra min HTC Vision med Tapatalk
I have factory 2.3.3 in my desire z , is it possible to root it (downgrade and change to something new ) and not to lose my data and installed applications?
Zocca: You have to downgrade, but the downgrade guide contains a section to get Titanium Backup running, so you can backup your apps and data.
-Nipqer

[Q] Question about rooting

Hey everyone. I was wondering if you could root without unlocking the bootloader first. I know i wouldn't be able to flash roms and such, but I just want the Superuser app so I can use apps like Titanium backup and sixaxis controller. Thanks in advance!
timour79 said:
Hey everyone. I was wondering if you could root without unlocking the bootloader first. I know i wouldn't be able to flash roms and such, but I just want the Superuser app so I can use apps like Titanium backup and sixaxis controller. Thanks in advance!
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sorry to tell you, but there is no way of rooting without unlocking the bootloader, since its secured and you won't be able to flash the necessary super user scripts. i could be wrong, but i think its necessary to unlock the bootloader.
Billchen0014 said:
sorry to tell you, but there is no way of rooting without unlocking the bootloader, since its secured and you won't be able to flash the necessary super user scripts. i could be wrong, but i think its necessary to unlock the bootloader.
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Can I unlock the bootloader, root, then relock the bootloader and keep the root?
timour79 said:
Can I unlock the bootloader, root, then relock the bootloader and keep the root?
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if you choose the relock bootloader option in the toolbox, it removes superuser as well
Billchen0014 said:
if you choose the relock bootloader option in the toolbox, it removes superuser as well
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Alright, thanks
Billchen0014 said:
if you choose the relock bootloader option in the toolbox, it removes superuser as well
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This is a good example of where using a toolkit fails.
You can re-lock the bootloader without affecting root. Boot the phone in fastboot mode, connect to computer and run the following command:
Code:
> fastboot oem lock
timour79 said:
Can I unlock the bootloader, root, then relock the bootloader and keep the root?
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What's your reason for wanting it relocked?
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noneabove said:
What's your reason for wanting it relocked?
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I'm not the OP, but I don't like the open padlock icon that shows that the device's bootloader is unlocked.
Any disadvantage to re-locking the bootloader?
Nate2 said:
I'm not the OP, but I don't like the open padlock icon that shows that the device's bootloader is unlocked.
Any disadvantage to re-locking the bootloader?
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Well I dont want to completely void the warranty, unless rooting already does that. If it was mine then i would've unlocked and rooted. I'd probably already have a rom and kernel on it. But it's actually my dad's, and he said I can root it if I don't do anything too serious(like I said, I just want Superuser so I can use things like the sixaxis controller app.)
comminus said:
This is a good example of where using a toolkit fails.
You can re-lock the bootloader without affecting root. Boot the phone in fastboot mode, connect to computer and run the following command:
Code:
> fastboot oem lock
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Would that be manual rooting?
NRT questions
hey there
have some newb questions about rooting along the same lines of the OP. hope you can help me
1. what are the chances of bricking the nexus by rooting if all i am going to do is the same as the OP. use sixasis and the usb stick apps. has anyone completely bricked their device or is there always a way back. i have seen a lot of info and guides to suggest you can always get the factory image restored.
2. does the superuser app already need to be installed on the nexus or does the toolkit install it for me?
3. if i am only rooting for basic stuff like sixasis is there any point installing clockword mod?
4. i have downloaded the toolkit and tried the driver installation. my experience was different from the screenshots in the toolkit and guides i have seen but when i run the driver check/step 3 it comes back with success and i have managed to make a backup. so does this imply i can safely unlock and root.
5. if i have to get my device repaired and relock the device and un-root it will my warranty be ok or can google still detect rooting has been done?
sorry for the newb questions but there are so many different guides out there and some of them refer to older versions of the NRT so just want to clarify these points.
timour79 said:
Would that be manual rooting?
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No. All you are doing there is unlocking the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader is the equivalent of pre-heating your oven. You haven't messed with any ingredients or cooked anything yet.
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Lemegeton300 said:
1. what are the chances of bricking the nexus by rooting if all i am going to do is the same as the OP. use sixasis and the usb stick apps. has anyone completely bricked their device or is there always a way back. i have seen a lot of info and guides to suggest you can always get the factory image restored.
2. does the superuser app already need to be installed on the nexus or does the toolkit install it for me?
3. if i am only rooting for basic stuff like sixasis is there any point installing clockword mod?
4. i have downloaded the toolkit and tried the driver installation. my experience was different from the screenshots in the toolkit and guides i have seen but when i run the driver check/step 3 it comes back with success and i have managed to make a backup. so does this imply i can safely unlock and root.
5. if i have to get my device repaired and relock the device and un-root it will my warranty be ok or can google still detect rooting has been done?
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1. The chances are pretty slim for permanently bricking. That is the beauty of Nexus devices - the entire factory image is available to be flashed back on if you screw things up. That is the equivalent of reformatting your harddrive & reinstalling your OS on your desktop.
2. mkskip's toolkit will install it for you. I am sure wug's will too.
3. You don't have to install CWM, especially if you are thinking that you will pretty much always stay stock. But, the bug might hit you in a month or two to start playing around, and then CWM or TWRP is your friend. I installed CWM & made a backup pretty quickly in case I do something I shouldn't, such as accidentally deleting a vital system app. That way you do not have to do the factory reinstall route. Every few weeks you can make yourself a fresh backup just for fun.
4. You should be fine - the drivers must be working if the toolkit is doing backups for you. I am assuming you are using mkskips toolkit based on this question - his instructions say that sometimes in 1 step it says drivers didn't install correctly when they actually do - Windows is...Windows. If you want to be sure, ask away on mkskip's thread. He is quite helpful.
5. If you reflash the factory image & the bootloader is relocked, there is nothing for them to see...not that they'd really care since the point of a Nexus is to develop on it. You would only be returning it for a hardware issue, and the software unlocking has no impact on the hardware problem, since your hardware issue would've happened no matter what software you had on it. The only way a software thing could cause a hardware issue would be if you over-overclocked it & cooked some parts. You'd really have to work at doing that since these things usually shut down when the temperature gets too high.
In short: root it & enjoy it!
Thanks for the info. Its wugs tool I am using so not sure what happened with drivers but like you said its good to go. So will the clockwork mod essentially create a restore point for me ?
Going to go ahead and root the device now. Thanks for the help.
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Lemegeton300 said:
Thanks for the info. Its wugs tool I am using so not sure what happened with drivers but like you said its good to go. So will the clockwork mod essentially create a restore point for me ?
Going to go ahead and root the device now. Thanks for the help.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Yes. When you restore a backup it will be just as it was when you made it. Have fun!

[Q] N4 root 5.1.1

Hey guys, i've been looking at some different guides and ill be trying to root my N4 running 5.1.1 using that, just wanted to make sure it's legit:
ive installed the adb drivers from the 15 sec installer found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
and root it using this guide: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-nexus-5-4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-install-cwm-recovery-1502856 (except ill be using twrp not cwm)
(backed up apps and messages using helium app, assuming this process will wipe my data)
just wanted to make sure if this way is legit, or i may have missed something (i assume my bootloader is locked)
Pingas12 said:
Hey guys, i've been looking at some different guides and ill be trying to root my N4 running 5.1.1 using that, just wanted to make sure it's legit:
ive installed the adb drivers from the 15 sec installer found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
and root it using this guide: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-nexus-5-4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-install-cwm-recovery-1502856 (except ill be using twrp not cwm)
(backed up apps and messages using helium app, assuming this process will wipe my data)
just wanted to make sure if this way is legit, or i may have missed something (i assume my bootloader is locked)
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That looks good, just make sure you understand that in the when you flash the recovery the command is "fastboot flash recovery *the file name of your recovery file*" make sure to include the .img in the file name.
EDIT: Make sure to remember to unlock your bootloader before flashing the recovery by using the command "fastboot oem unlock" after booting into the bootloader.
theminikiller said:
That looks good, just make sure you understand that in the when you flash the recovery the command is "fastboot flash recovery *the file name of your recovery file*" make sure to include the .img in the file name.
EDIT: Make sure to remember to unlock your bootloader before flashing the recovery by using the command "fastboot oem unlock" after booting into the bootloader.
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Thanks alot man! Is there a way to make sure my bootloader is locked (or unlocked)?
Is it going to wipe my data?
Pingas12 said:
Thanks alot man! Is there a way to make sure my bootloader is locked (or unlocked)?
Is it going to wipe my data?
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I don't know of any way to check if the unlock was successful, but I imagine it would say something in the command prompt after running the command.
Yes, it is going to wipe your data and sdcard folder so anything you want to keep you have to make a backup of on your computer or somewhere else.
EDIT: BTW this guide goes over the process in alot more detail than the guide you found and are using, so if you're still unsure about the process this guide will probably help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/guide-ultimate-nexus-4-root-guide-t2018179
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I don't know of any way to check if the unlock was successful, but I imagine it would say something in the command prompt after running the command.
Yes, it is going to wipe your data and sdcard folder so anything you want to keep you have to make a backup of on your computer or somewhere else.
EDIT: BTW this guide goes over the process in alot more detail than the guide you found and are using, so if you're still unsure about the process this guide will probably help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/guide-ultimate-nexus-4-root-guide-t2018179
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First of all, Thanks! again!
Second, i've seen this guide, and even though you are probably right, it still refers to older versions of android and im a bit skeptical about using it. Plus, it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data but i don't want to use it because it's not the "normal" way and im not sure if it will work.
and one more thing: flashing the recovery means i will have it as long as i want or each time i would want to use it i will have to flash it again?
Pingas12 said:
First of all, Thanks! again!
Second, i've seen this guide, and even though you are probably right, it still refers to older versions of android and im a bit skeptical about using it. Plus, it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data but i don't want to use it because it's not the "normal" way and im not sure if it will work.
and one more thing: flashing the recovery means i will have it as long as i want or each time i would want to use it i will have to flash it again?
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In the guide I linked it gives you a way to make it permanent. If you don't do that I think you have to reflash the recovery after every time you boot into the normal ROM.
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In the guide I linked it gives you a way to make it permanent. If you don't do that I think you have to reflash the recovery after every time you boot into the normal ROM.
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Got it! does some of the ways apply to twrp as well?
Pingas12 said:
Got it! does some of the ways apply to twrp as well?
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If you use either the file explorer method or the adb method just do the exact same thing.
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If you use either the file explorer method or the adb method just do the exact same thing.
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Man, you helped me alot. i'll do the rooting process later today (just got home) I really appreciate your help.
Pingas12 said:
Man, you helped me alot. i'll do the rooting process later today (just got home) I really appreciate your help.
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How did it go?
it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data
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How did it go?
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It went great! today ill be busy restoring old data, already worked with whatsapp but for some reason the helium app cant find the backup files and it assumes there is no backup
Pingas12 said:
It went great! today ill be busy restoring old data, already worked with whatsapp but for some reason the helium app cant find the backup files and it assumes there is no backup
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Great! Congratulations! Unfortunately I've never used helium so I don't know anything about that, I've always used titanium.

Any way to backup a non-rooted Nexus 4?

Just trying to save some time If I unlock the bootloader and it gets wiped, but every nandroid guide seems to indicate root is a requirement. Is there anything that can be done via the stock recovery in terms of creating a backup of all my data or is copying what visible files there are over USB as good as it gets?
(Not sure it still works on the last versions of Android)
You can root without unlocking the bootloader (see here)
This way you can use any app to backup, copy the backup to the PC, and then proceed to unlock the bootloader. Note that while technically you could live without unlocking the bootloader, you should do it anyways, since it makes much easier to create whole-system-backups and to fix your phone in case something goes wrong.
You could use adb. This guide tells you how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
theminikiller said:
You could use adb. This guide tells you how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

Best way to save app data before unlocking bootloader

Hi I would like to unlock the bootloader and root once the new update rolls out but have quite a few private apps with preferences set. If I had TWRP I would just backup the data partition but I cannot do that.
I wanted to ask what you feel the most effective way to backup my apps and app data on a non-rooted virgin Shield? Does Google allow app data syncing on Android TV platform?
Thanks.
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Is it a 16GB og Pro version?
If it's a 16GB, there isn't really anything that just works, unfortunately.
If it's a Pro version, then you can pull the HDD and alter a partition to make it unlocked, then flash TWRP, backup and update (in theory).
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Umm you can't... That's kind of One, of the many other possible reasons why you root to begin with. e.g. being able to access restricted /data, and /system Partitions, for instance. As it is I would guess the only way you could possibly get at them would be though ADB. But, lol you have to also have root for that.*
NOTE: This is where those Rooted Recovery Images from nVIDIA come from. They are only rooted for ADB, and not for SuperSU. Or so I understand it.
So again I fairly sure your just going to have to bite it this time. Also (from someone with some experience in the matter), you may want to remove your SSHD, and make a few backups of it (See the SSHD to SSD Migration To), in case thing ever go ugh wrong. If your hell bent on rooting.
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Is it a 16GB og Pro version?
If it's a 16GB, there isn't really anything that just works, unfortunately.
If it's a Pro version, then you can pull the HDD and alter a partition to make it unlocked, then flash TWRP, backup and update (in theory).
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Ichijoe said:
Umm you can't... That's kind of One, of the many other possible reasons why you root to begin with. e.g. being able to access restricted /data, and /system Partitions, for instance. As it is I would guess the only way you could possibly get at them would be though ADB. But, lol you have to also have root for that.*
NOTE: This is where those Rooted Recovery Images from nVIDIA come from. They are only rooted for ADB, and not for SuperSU. Or so I understand it.
So again I fairly sure your just going to have to bite it this time. Also (from someone with some experience in the matter), you may want to remove your SSHD, and make a few backups of it (See the SSHD to SSD Migration To), in case thing ever go ugh wrong. If your hell bent on rooting.
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Taking the above into consideration, I am actually registered in the nVidia Developer Program and have access to the Developer images. Having said that, if I flash the Developer image, then I not just use the rooted ADB to make a backup of all the app data and then unlock boot loader and restore it?
Well irregardless of your having a Pro (Or, not)... You're still not going to get very far with what you are hoping to do. As you would have had, to have unlocked the Bootloader first. Before you could flash anything at all.
Unlocking the Bootloader will of course totally erase ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL DATA! And, that seems to be the catch-22 here, as you presumably do not want this. Of course OtOH if you ~are~ already unlocked then it shouldn't be a problem, then again booting TWRP from Fastboot, and eventually rooting shouldn't be a problem either.
But, since your Device has NOT yet been Bootloader unlocked, you CAN NOT actually do any of this yet.
I don't know what exactly it is you want to "backup", but you could use something like ES File Explorer to backup your Installed Apps, and your 'hidden' /system Apps (e.g. iPlayer), if thats your thing.
If you wanted to backup your Kodi stuff then ESFE could do that as well (But, you would have to enable Hidden Files to do this). Considering the recent loss of TVAddons. This in-and-of-itself, may well be good advice going forward for a while yet.
Ichijoe said:
Well irregardless of your having a Pro (Or, not)... You're still not going to get very far with what you are hoping to do. As you would have had, to have unlocked the Bootloader first. Before you could flash anything at all.
Unlocking the Bootloader will of course totally erase ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL DATA! And, that seems to be the catch-22 here, as you presumably do not want this. Of course OtOH if you ~are~ already unlocked then it shouldn't be a problem, then again booting TWRP from Fastboot, and eventually rooting shouldn't be a problem either.
But, since your Device has NOT yet been Bootloader unlocked, you CAN NOT actually do any of this yet.
I don't know what exactly it is you want to "backup", but you could use something like ES File Explorer to backup your Installed Apps, and your 'hidden' /system Apps (e.g. iPlayer), if thats your thing.
If you wanted to backup your Kodi stuff then ESFE could do that as well (But, you would have to enable Hidden Files to do this). Considering the recent loss of TVAddons. This in-and-of-itself, may well be good advice going forward for a while yet.
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Thanks for the reply. There is only one discrepancy/question I have with your post - I was under the impression that I can flash the nVidia signed Developer ROM image *without* unlocking the bootloader, is that correct? If not, then I see your point and there is no way to access the app data files in the "data" partition. However, if I do not need to unlock the bootloader to flash the nVidia signed Developer image, and the nVidia signed Developer image is ADB rooted then I should be able to access the "data" partition.
Unless of course the flashing the nVidia signed Developer image will also wipe the "data" partition in the process
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Thanks for the reply. There is only one discrepancy/question I have with your post - I was under the impression that I can flash the nVidia signed Developer ROM image *without* unlocking the bootloader, is that correct? If not, then I see your point and there is no way to access the app data files in the "data" partition. However, if I do not need to unlock the bootloader to flash the nVidia signed Developer image, and the nVidia signed Developer image is ADB rooted then I should be able to access the "data" partition.
Unless of course the flashing the nVidia signed Developer image will also wipe the "data" partition in the process
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This is taken from the Nvidia developer page:
NOTE: On the SHIELD Android TV Pro 500GB edition, some steps of the flash process may take a
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hallydamaster said:
This is taken from the Nvidia developer page:
NOTE: On the SHIELD Android TV Pro 500GB edition, some steps of the flash process may take a
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Darn, you are correct - it is required to unlock the bootloader to flash the nVidia Developer image. Too bad. Wish there was a way to extract app data! Some apps on mobile Devices use the Google Sync for app data, but I am not sure if this is employable on Android TV.
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E--Man said:
Thanks for the reply. There is only one discrepancy/question I have with your post - I was under the impression that I can flash the nVidia signed Developer ROM image *without* unlocking the bootloader, is that correct? If not, then I see your point and there is no way to access the app data files in the "data" partition. However, if I do not need to unlock the bootloader to flash the nVidia signed Developer image, and the nVidia signed Developer image is ADB rooted then I should be able to access the "data" partition.
Unless of course the flashing the nVidia signed Developer image will also wipe the "data" partition in the process
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To be fair, you would have to read the enclosed README File with the Dev ROM in question. I Have yet had no much reason to use it. So to be quite honest here I wouldn't know. OtOH though you do have to bootloader unlock the Device first of you wanted to flash a stock recovery Image. So everything that I think I know comes from that.
But, please extrapolate this idea of App Data further. I mean are we speaking about Apps, of pure Data (Al-la Kodi Data)?
'Cause these things can be backed up to degrees. If it's something well deeper than this. Well your just outta luck I'm afraid.
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To be fair, you would have to read the enclosed README File with the Dev ROM in question. I Have yet had no much reason to use it. So to be quite honest here I wouldn't know. OtOH though you do have to bootloader unlock the Device first of you wanted to flash a stock recovery Image. So everything that I think I know comes from that.
But, please extrapolate this idea of App Data further. I mean are we speaking about Apps, of pure Data (Al-la Kodi Data)?
'Cause these things can be backed up to degrees. If it's something well deeper than this. Well your just outta luck I'm afraid.
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Hi lchijoe, I am just referring to the app preferences and their personal data that usually exists inside the "/data/data" folder. Some manufacturers allow exporting of this data even on non-rooted devices. For example, Huawei has a backup app which exports apps along with their personal data such that if you restore them it is as if you didn't even uninstall them to begin with. If I basically want to have everything restored as if I didn't do a factory reset.
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