[Q] After replacement of screen, no more multitouch only dual touch - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I recently dropped my phone and broke my screen. I ordered a complete frame and lcd/digitizer from eBay and everything seemed to work.
Touchscreen didn't feel right and I stalled a few multitouch tester apps.
I noticed only 2 points were registered. Third didn't show anything. Contacting the seller with this he suggested cleaning the contact points and looking elsewhere for answers.
Does anyone have any idea whether this the screen or something else?
I cleaned everything, all contact points with alcohol and even bought a new battery, because some said that could have weird issues as well.
Thank you in advance.
/edit: this is the link to the screen I bought: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/331224787829?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

look at controller chip ( that one on digitizer flex) - if it's not glued with black epo around , then 99.9% you got cheap china clone digitizer ...
here is pics of copy and org digitizers :
cheap copy / OEM

RolF2 said:
look at controller chip ( that one on digitizer flex) - if it's not glued with black epo around , then 99.9% you got cheap china clone digitizer ...
here is pics of copy and org digitizers :
cheap copy / OEM
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The one I have looks te be an OEM version. I guess I have to open en different Nexus 4 and try to figure it out.
The smaller part looks to have a bigger IC on the picture. Mine has 2 connectors, but the smaller connector also has a smaller IC.
Thanks for your reply.

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How do replace LCD with digitizer

I want to replace cracked screed with new LCD with digitizer and went thru service manual. I am struck at the point where I have to remove antenna cover before I can go ahead. Can somebody please help. I am from small town in India with no service centre. Got new original LCD with digitizer via ebay.
amit200465 said:
I want to replace cracked screed with new LCD with digitizer and went thru service manual. I am struck at the point where I have to remove antenna cover before I can go ahead. Can somebody please help. I am from small town in India with no service centre. Got new original LCD with digitizer via ebay.
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That is a real hard peace of work an the possibility to destroy the device completely is quite high. Heres another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3807619#post3807619
Thanks for the link but not sure where to insert the flat plastic tool on over the USB socket or below it. Please help
Victory, I managed to sucessfully repair my HD today.
Parts needed:
Digitizer ~ € 25, --
LCD Display ~ € 74, --
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Total: € 99, --
Time: ~ 3 hours
Difficulty: high
Special precautions:
After complete dissembling the HD according to the service Manual you can find in the net you will have to lever the display out of the front bezel from the front side. It is very likely the color and the frame will be damaged a bit! It's best to use a fairly broad plastic "spatula" and lever the display out. It should be noted that the glas of the digitizer is glued to the LCD display so it is very unlikely to repair the HD in case of a broken front glas by only changing the digitizer without changing the lcd display as well. This is unfortunate because digitizer is available very cheap (under € 30, -) over the Internet and usually only the glass of the digiziers breaks.
So who likes the risk and doesnt want to pay the horrendous costs of repair stalls here is the first case of a positive self-repair. PN if you want details. I am sorry but I have no pictures, because I repaired the HD at work and had no cam there.
Hard to replace LCD for touch hd
It is really very hard to replaced Lcd screen and digitilizer for touch HD.
I replaced mine last night for 3 hours. But before you start to separate the lcd from the case you must have a double sided tape for you to be able to return the lcd on the case. The tape will also serve as a sealant to your screen from dirt and to hold the screen on the housing.
Broken LCD
Yes, it's hard to change the digitizer.
I tried, I failed.
As my digitizer was broken (one can see a kind of watering effect, and no press effective anymore), I bought just the digitizer alone, without lcd screen.
12 € incl shipping. Nice price.
Here is what I received : cf. joined img 1248 (images are at the end, need moderator green light to do better. note : larger version available on frapi.com/vrac/cimg1248_rs.jpg.html (click on image for the others))
Seems OK. The plastic tool is bull**** (too soft to unclip the antenna)
With the help of the service manual, it wasn't so hard to dismantle it like that :
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Now the tricky part, level one :
you have to break apart digitzer+lcd+metal shield from the rest
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Be very careful when opening. try to lever only on the digitizer glass, that you will change anyway. You also have to unstick the metal shield under the LCD, because of the wiring there, attached to the digitizer :
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OK, done, you have that, digitizer+lcd :
cf img 1254
Now the tricky part, level two :
Split lcd from digitizer.
Just avoid doing that :
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if you don't want to end like that :
cf img 1265
Don't ask, I don't have the recipe.
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Frapi
PS : just bought a combo digitizer+lcd, quite more expensive. stay tuned
LCD manufacturer
Hello,
can anybody of you tell us the manufacturer of the display ? May I ask you to provide a readable picture of the labels behind the screen ? Or to write us the text on the labels ?
Many thanks, best regards Wolfgang
How do you fit the cable between the digitizer and lcd screen? Is it just a connector or do I have to solder it?
laban333 said:
How do you fit the cable between the digitizer and lcd screen? Is it just a connector or do I have to solder it?
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No soldering. digitizer to lcd board is clipsed.
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Frapi
Bigger picture ?
Hello Frapipda,
may I ask you for a bigger picture of your thumpnail cimg1252_tn.jpg ?
If I can read the labels I would try to get a detailed specification of the display.
Many thanks, best regards Wolfgang
Hi all,
From the bottom is the lcd screen, after a black thing, and after is the digitizer glued on the top glass...
What is the name for the black transparent thing that goes between the screen and the digitizer? It is flexible but I accidentally made it to curve and now it has some marks inside.
frapipda said:
No soldering. digitizer to lcd board is clipsed.
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Frapi
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Frapipda: You say its clipsed, but I cant manage to connect the tiny plastic digitizer contact with the lcd one. Do You have some advice?
I found out now. You have to lift one part of the contact...
frapipda said:
Yes, it's hard to change the digitizer.
Frapi
PS : just bought a combo digitizer+lcd, quite more expensive. stay tuned
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Hi again,
Eventually bought a standalone LCD screen, came pretty quickly from HK (paid Friday nite, received today Wenesday in France).
was quite easy to install.
One tricky point :
LCD is glued on digitizer ; LCD position is paramount, and you have to insert the LCD in the phone body, then place the digitizer on the LCD, so that they are correctly positionned one to each other. If you don't, you won't be able to close the phone.
Phone is OK now
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Frapi
got it today
I got the plastic tool, the torx screwdriver and the lcd+ digitizer for lessthat $20 cdn, i have exams going on so i will work on it over the weekend, will post with extreme details and possibly a video on HOW-TO change the digitizer!
osamaali, any luck yet?
lol
im not going to post a video because a major **** happened, due to lack of knowledge around on the net i should say this clearly that YOU HAVE TO PRY OPEN THE LCD SCREEN FROM THE FRONT! use a thin yet broad and strong object to go between the side wall and the screen and start pulling, i used a knife and cut all the way around before i started prying to cut the glue which is stronger than "Arnold" and all the dismantling from the back is to get to the chip where digitizer is plugged in.
when taking the screen off i took off the main screen, then the touch resistor screen and then the glass at the end (3 layers total). the glass is also stuck to the main "monitor" this is where the colors come from, i got impatient and pulled it hard enough that the monitor did not get time to detach.
i ordered the monitor lcd, im going to edit the video for final upload. sorry for the delay but everyone now know
YOU HAVE TO CUT AND PRY IT OPEN! if you guys get stuck pm me and i'll reply here. also i got the touchscreen to work but killed my monitor, i can still use the phone but the bottom 1 inch is blacked out.
GL HF!
Prying it open would only cause a mess, with broken glass falling. I like to work in a clean environment so i just get a hair dryer, switch it to high and do a figure 8 on the screen. Sure it takes quite a long time to get it off but trust me it comes off in one piece. The only problem i got now is putting the button on correctly. I aligned the buttons but once i put the lcd+digitizer on the buttons would get jammed or stuck. End call button is still clickable but the rest are jammed. PM me if you can help me or just email me at [email protected]

Has anyone replaced their digitizer/screen on HTC Touch?

Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
Yet.Another.ID said:
Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
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Hi yai, I opened up an elf several times and it is not that hard to do. A howto is published, with clear photo's of the interior. You don't have to solder because the screen (with digitizer) is linked with a (very small) flat cable to the motherboard. It is advised to use proper tooling
so where can we buy a new screen, and how much does it cost? can we do it ourself?
yunusemred said:
so where can we buy a new screen, and how much does it cost? can we do it ourself?
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Yes, you can diy. They sell on e-bay for about 20 euro's. Have no experience with shipment or quality from e-bay sellers. E.g. pda parts and repair in the Netherlands.
Oseven published a howto in the past.
Sold for $10 on http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20650 (free shipping). But be warned that it takes couple of weeks for the shipping.
I had to replace the screen on my touch.
I followed some instructions here clicky
The page is in another language, but its easy to see what to do from the pictures.
It took less than half an hour to get it all done.
I bought my screen off ebay for £11 including p&p
Works like a dream.
Dont be scared to do it.
Just make sure you use the right tools or you could damage it.
Yup i bought the same one from dealextreme and it's working flawless ,, there are sites which sell these digitizers for high as $100 even... i dont know how much qulaity difference will that make... but this one for $10 is working perfectly without issues till now...
Thanks, great offer at dealextreme. Just ordered a replacementscreen to test the quality, 3 screenprotectors and disassembly tools for only 12 euro's
Found a decent guide to help replace both Screen and Digitizer
Yet.Another.ID said:
Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
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I was off by 1 step replacing the Digitizer. Looking at the replacement digitizer I kind of knew that it is glued, but never was sure until looking at the guide.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/OSeven's Disassembly Guide to the HTC Touch - Elf .pdf
I could have replaced mine months ago (which was working fine but had watermark like damage - caused by my toddler son.)
Sriks
I have done it and it was not very difficult.
You are correct you are replacing the digitizer and not the LCD display.
Things to watch for:
When you are opening the phone watch out for some clips that hold the bottom together. I snapped mine and had to replace the body. The idea is to pry open the top portion of the phone and then slide the back up to release the cover.
Once that is done you are halfway there.
There is no soldering required. Everything plugs in to quick connectors. Raise the white bars on the plug connector before you pull or insert the flat cables.
Have fun
Good info, moved to general.
Please most in correct forums only.
I recently replaced the digitizer. Cost Rs.1500 if u r in India..

Touch HD (Blackstone) Screen & touch repair, pics and tips inside!

Hi XDA peeps.
I would like to share my notes and pictures of my recent repair i performed on my touch HD. If you end up suffering from the Newton_Ring problem or cracked lcd, and decide to purchase a factory assembled LCD + Digitizer, you can use the Official Service manual and this thread, to perform the repair.
The Battery and the Battery cover have been removed.
Lower mainboard cover and inner housing have been removed
the Digitizer & LCD (preassembled) replacement Part, beside the damaged Blackstone.
Removal of the GPS Coaxial cabling.
I'll skip past the wifi coax removal, but will like to note that you will find a spare coax socket on the mainboard next to the wifi one, so dont get those mixed up when reassembling it!!
both Coax cables removed. (bad quality picture)
Removal of the Ribbons Mylar
this is the removal of the Ribbon plug.
Removal of the Volume buttons and its petite PCB. Take your time, dont break the ribbons or damage the pcb trying to remove this.
Removal of the mainboard phillips screw.
Power PCB slot removal, this ones tricky.
Unplugging of the 5 megapixel main camera, a nice and easy step.
Note: Please be aware that the whole Top PCB is very fragile and does actually bend, hence the term Flex PCB, be gentle with this component.
You wont see this part of the repair listed in the official manual, infact when I had a google around, there was little to no information on howto perform this anywhere.
Let me make one thing certain, if you've just spent like an hour on the above, while following the Official service manual, squinting at the poor quality photos (or my poor quality photos ) and you're feeling a little impatient, take a decent break before attempting the above!
Because, for the above procedure, you need to tear off the 3 layers of Digitizer and LCD from the front of the phone, if you don't take your time with how you do it, you'll dent your frame (a lot).
you won't find this in the service manual, if you worked out its significantly easier do a factory pre-assembled Digi+LCD replacement, and if you don't purchase the housing along with LCD and Digitizer, then you'll need to take the front Speaker piece grill, and transplant it to the new part.
Note: that you don't need to add any extra glue to perform any of this.
Next you simply gently fold a ribbon so you can place the new part into the old frame, and you'll end up with something like this:
I also did a lot of very minor aesthetic damage to the inner area of the frame, between the frame and the touch screen.
Take your time to prevent this, also if you don't care for the old part at all and aren't replacing a LCD or Digitizer standalone, you can pretty much gain access to the layers from one corner then tear the layers away from the glue with your hands.
Next proceed to rebuild the phone following the above in reverse or keep following the service manual (or both, is probably the best way IMO)
Note: Don't forget to place the camera back into the reassembly as you're re adding the coax wires. The service manual won't instruct you to do this.
Install back your flexible and mainboard pcb. as above.
The above is with all the boards, cables and camera installed back into place.
Verify the replacement part is good before fastening in the shell casings.
Lastly the two shells are fastened back on and the battery is put back into place.
Note: When installing the main shell, be very considerate of the camera, while at the same time, ensuring that none of the coaxial or the vibrator cable falls out of their desired places.
OK, if you have the HTC Service manual PDF, and need to repair your Blackstone (and want to DIY), it can be done albeit some instructions are clearly omitted from the official service manual.
One final note, When researching on what part to use to perform the repair of my Blackstone mobile, I read a great many people have attempted to repair their Blackstones and failed miserably, so even if you're savvy with repairing small electronics, the general suggestion is to get a pre-made digitizer & LCD, it is without a doubt well worth the price difference of a Digitizer or LCD standalone.
Thank you for taking the time to check this out, I hope someone may find it useful and save them from a bit of misery.
you are fantastic! i will try to replace the screen in next days...your guide is the best!
very thanks
excume friends, but i'm from venezuela...... i buy a HTC TOUCH HD in miami, the february 2009, ,i phone present this problem, the LCD work fine, but the touch no responding, anybody know where can buy it...... i don´t know how call the replace..... digitalizer, LCD.... how???
Thanks and excuse me by me bad english........ i know, soooo bad.....
Believe me it's almost imposible to replace just digitizer.
I have similar problem few weeks ago, and I buy pre-made LCD+Digitizer and replace it without any problem. I bought my from ebay. UK reseler. 65 euro. I heard that you can find it for lower price but I was searching on ebay.de so maybe on US ebay you can find for less money.
Don't bother to replace just digitizer, just to go 40$ less. Sometimes is batter to give 40$ more but to do job without any problems. (PS It's very, very hard to detach factory attached LCD from frame without braking it!)
Good luck!
Thank you so much, look for us on ebay or on amazon.com to see them .... any questions do not hesitate to do that around here ...... thanks again
Greetings, I got this on ebay usa,
h**p://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-HD-T8282-Digitizer-Screen-Repair-Part-TL-/290471976452?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a17a9e04
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... What do you think? Does this serve me?
my baclstone started acting funny with screen alignment getting messed up and than it completely stopped responding...
even the touch sensitive hardware buttons donot work no more...i have hard reset many times did task 29. i have changed different roms and went back to stock rom but screen doesnt respond at all... not even the backlight turn on to full brightness when screen is tapped?
anyone have any idea whats broken lcd or digitizer or both... or maybe something else.... and there is no official htc repair shop so i probably gotta fix it on my own
Got Touch HD from someone I know.
He has scratches on the fone screen, so he decided to DIY by replacing the screen, he did not manage to screw everything together so he gave it to me...
I have tried to follow instructions both here and another thread which points me to videos that I can watch...
The problem is that I have black screen, I can hear the sound when turned on. Just no life on screen.
The screen was super glued on so there was no reponsibility of removing and check if eveything OK.
Could it be that the screen defect?
Have google but found no info on how to attach screen to the fone !!!
There was just one ribbon cable, I believe from the screen to the main borad and it is attached to the main board....
OK
Have had some free time over the weekend, disassembled the phone and found that 1 of the fles connectors was loose. Reconnected and all was perfect...
Now I have a fully working phone
Thanks for the guide....
Don't try to replace only the digitizer...i suggest to disassembly the phone first to buy the digitizer.. to see how much is hard to detach to lcd without broke lcd! if you can detach you can buy only digitizer!
i bought the digitizer but i broked my lcd to try to change...with Lcd+touchscreen's block I ve changed in 10 minutes and it is perfect!
Glad to see this has helped others.
My main intention was to cover the steps missed by the not so comprehensive service manual, if it was more comprehensive i probably wouldn't have started this thread to show how I repaired mine. was quite a few too many important steps missing really. (re-adding the camera, etcetera)
Hi all,
I just replaced the lcd screen of my blackstone and got a new touch screen, I put all together but the touch screen seems to be dead. Is there anything I should check? you always talk of touch panel and digitizer like two different layer, does this mean that I should have 3 different pieces (LCD - digitizer?!? - plastic touch panel)? Because I only have two, the LCD and the "glass" with an outgoing flat cable. In the case I am not missing anything, should the touch panel work even if not in contact with the screen ?
If you got one pre-assembled (which we call LCD + digitizer), it would actually just be one whole piece.
If you have two pieces, then you have a LCD screen (the glass one AFAIK) and a plastic layer (the digitizer)
My replacement part came in as one, and in the OP I disassemble, and remove it and place the new on in the old ones spot.
Sounds to me like youve gotten the parts not pre-assembled by the manufacturer, unfortunately its common for non- pre assembled ones to not make contact to eachother properly when you assemble it, some people reported being able to do it, and others from what i've read found either partial or no touch capability, but it would likely be the digitizer contacts are not touching the LCD contacts (kind of a ribbon on the plastic piece)
It maybe worth just getting a pre-assembled replacement. if youve already used the current one and cannot fix it.
No it's not preassembled but you probably solved my problem. you basically say the touch panel and the LCD MUST be in touch in a specific point to close some contact (maybe the lower LCD ribbon must touch the lower part of the touch panel?)!! If you confirm that than probably that is my fault. I've seen some videos on youtube where the touch panel works even if it's away from the LCD but it was not a blackstone and probably not a resistive touch panel.
Please confirm I got it right, you probably saved my blackstone.
as far as i know, the digitizer will have some kind of ribbon, on the LCD theres contacts or a socket for that ribbon, you can see (poorly) in the pictures I took, where I show the LCD and digitizer and a layer (digitizer and face place layers) of torn apart.
I looked around my room for my old damaged screen but unfortunately I can't find it I think I may have disposed of it.
lucky, ebay type sites do have some pictures of the digitizer and its ribbon as you can see in this picture - link (I googled this and found it here
that ribbon would likely attach to the lcd panel, I'm quite sure if they aren't making proper contact the touch won't work.
But, having said that, before I made this thread, while reading about others who did a repair without a pre-assembled part, they mentioned that the digitizer part contained many tiny bubble like resistive cells in the digitizer layers, its imperative you don't damage the any of these touch cell things, because if they somehow get damaged, even if you get the digitizer ribbon to make proper contact with the LCD board/slot/contact (which ever its supposed to plug into), if those tiny cell break in the digitizer the touch wont work (could be partial, or could be overall interoperability) and if that happened, it would be a circumstance where you'd need to source another digitizer.
this is more or less an elaboration on my prior post I think.
What I can say for sure is before I fixed mine, after some searching around on these forums and on others, I found that most of those who did not get the digitizer, face plate and lcd factory pre-assembled did not fix their handset (only a minority did), they either ran into a problem with the digitizer making contact with the lcd panel, or they somehow damaged the digitizer resistive cells.
Also, since I did do mine with a pre-assembled part, I cannot say absolutely that the resistive cells will be between the faceplate layer and the second layer of the digitizer replacement part (like you see in my pictures, I ended up with 3 layers) it could be that the resistive cells are exposed on the back of the last layer and need to sit against the lcd, once again though, I'm not sure about it because I did opt for the more expensive easier choice to fix mine up.
Hope you get it all working smog
No way, tried to push lcd and digitizer together without any result. I don't believe there is something that can be broken on the back of digitizer (Resistive cells???) but I hope you are right, I am waiting for a housing I bought from HK it's complete with a new digitizer ... we'll see
Thanks a lot
Hello, great guide but I am still having a problem and I wonder if it's with what I bought; Off ebay I got the plastic and the glass attached to each other as I assumed thats all I needed because my lcd works fine. So I connected it all up and it only slightly works, where you touch the screen is actually showing up as quite a bit below (depends where - top left corner works fine but if you click the center of the screen the phone thinks you're clicking at the bottom).. I have tried calibration with no luck.. Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Afraid that theres not a lot you can do, if you havent fully reassembled it yet you could try reapplying the digitizer layer but I think that even trying that could make it worse then it is.
Like i said a few times, I wouldn't try replacing the digitizer on its own, I read up on it before repairing mine and concluded it was too much risk or trouble and just got an all in one lcd + digitizer which I used in the guide.
anyway these phones are quite old now, its hard to justify spending on an LCD and digitizer to fix one up.
you need to decide if thats worth it to you or not.
Infact, my blackstone has Newton rings again on the replacement screen, im not certain what squashed against it hard enough to cause them but it happened recently, the digitizer on mine is still working even with the newton ring damage so Im not planning on replacing the screen again.
Okay thank you very much for your help,
Are they still good phones though? I have a nokia 5800 from around the same time and i'm bored of it now but can't afford a new one so i bought this one really cheap as broken and was just going to fix it.. Or is it not really that much better?
Thanks again for your answer
they're considerably faster then nokias usually, i had the 6600, 6260, 9300i and they were all considerably slower ARM processors.
but It will all come down to what OS you run on it, if you do put a WinMo 6.5 rom on it it will be slow to the degree where its unusable. but if you use a 6.1 rom on it then it will never suffer from slow downs (unless the rom is hybrid 6.1 with 6.5 stuff like the one i use).
It also can do heaps of stuff the nokia can't, assuming your nokia is a series 60 or similar.
the Os can do tethering and heaps of other neat things, winmo also has got a fair range of apps, tho dated now, the variety is nice and gives you functionality, you could obtain a lot of this on a nokia symbian phone but winmo (based on wince) is just even better then symbian.
I think it all comes down to how much it will cost you to fix, I have a better phone so i cant justify spending over 50 dollars on fixing a slower older one, but to someone who doesnt have a better phone it may be quite viable to spend that to benefit the improvement over their current worse phone.
ideally, I would say just skip over it, its not truely that fast, you need at least a gigahertz phone to be fast. a HD2 or something, if you can get one like that quite cheap and in good condition, it would be worth more then spending a bit on the blackstone (touch HD).
just my opinion though
I would repair my blackstone again because i get use out of it each time its healthy even though I have something better its still handy to have, i love the audio output on it over my htc desire, but i wouldn't be spending the amount i spent on another repair screen like it did back when it was the best potential phone i could have had at the time.

[Q] [Questions]Hd2 fall....

Hello guys,
My HD2 was fallen on his screen yesterday. He seems to be in good state but it is just in aspect, the screen don't display anything except white strips and, the touch ability seems not working at all (When I press to do a slide to unlock nothing happens => no vibrations). In the right hand corner, the lcd screen seems to be a little broke.
You could see the problem at this link: http ://img25.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001by.jpg/
Do you have any ideas of causes of this? I have to change lcd screeen and capacitive screen? And it is possible to do it of my own?
Thanks for your answers and if you have any tutorials or other help, I'm grateful.
Darklink88 said:
Hello guys,
My HD2 was fallen on his screen yesterday. He seems to be in good state but it is just in aspect, the screen don't display anything except white strips and, the touch ability seems not working at all (When I press to do a slide to unlock nothing happens => no vibrations). In the right hand corner, the lcd screen seems to be a little broke.
You could see the problem at this link: http ://img25.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001by.jpg/
Do you have any ideas of causes of this? I have to change lcd screeen and capacitive screen? And it is possible to do it of my own?
Thanks for your answers and if you have any tutorials or other help, I'm grateful.
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The cause is obviously it being dropped. Yes you have to change your screen if you don't want to have a broken one and may have to get a new digitizer. I don't know you so I don't know if you have the skill to do this yourself. If you have a warranty then carry it back so they can fix it, if not (or that's not covered under it), take it to a cell phone repair shop. They should have the equipment to fix it (digitizer, lcd, etc..) and you can pay for the service and equipment there.Hope this helps.
Thanx a lot theonew I try to see that quickly!
Do you have some reference on the web to get this components? A serious website selling this both components?
Darklink88 said:
Thanx a lot theonew I try to see that quickly!
Do you have some reference on the web to get this components? A serious website selling this both components?
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You could go here: http://www.dinodirect.com/htc-hd2-t-mobile-touch-screen.html and here for lcd (with tools for installation is optional): http://www.smartphonebay.net/LCD-Screen-for-HTC-HD2-p/lcdp-htct8585.htm. I could not find both on one website. Anyways, I hope you can fix your phone.
Ok, to fix my phone it's 200 euros, I'd like to try to fix it on my own and now I'm at this point: http: //img835.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001c.jpg/ and this http: //img59.imageshack.us/i/imgp0002le.jpg/
(Thx to official disassembling video)
Someone have a tips to separate screen from digitizer??
Darklink88 said:
Ok, to fix my phone it's 200 euros, I'd like to try to fix it on my own and now I'm at this point: http: //img835.imageshack.us/i/imgp0001c.jpg/ and this http: //img59.imageshack.us/i/imgp0002le.jpg/
(Thx to official disassembling video)
Someone have a tips to separate screen from digitizer??
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Well, You always can buy LCD and digitizer from eBay, taken apart or already assembled LCM (about 80-120$ for digitizer+LCD module). You have to be careful which model you buying if you decided to buy LCD and touch apart, both must be for European version of HD2. LCM assembly are compatible for any model of HD2 LEO, I've tested both T-Mobile and EU at my EU version of HD2 and they worked very good.
Separating the digitizer is not a easy job, most cases you have two broken pieces in result, but if you still want to separate them, first thing to do is to heat them to about 60*C (Celsius degree), then separate digitizer from LCD with a sharp-edge thin plastic sheet, i.e. a credit card with sharpened edge. LCD and digitizer are sticked together with a kind of black double-sided scotch tape, it is easy to see it but it is very easy to damage digitizer during this process due to very thin Indium Oxide wires on it that is easy to scratch.
The best thing is to buy fully assembled new LCM and simply replace your old LCM. In addition You nave to remove old LCM adhesive from phone housing to assure proper alignment of your new LCM. It can be removed with ethanol or isopropanol (take a cloth, wet it well with same alcohol and gently rub the grued surface until it will be clean).
Here are the Official HTC HD2 Disassembly/Assembly Training Videos but there all components are new and unused.

[Q] HTC HD2 Touch replacement issue.

Hi guys..
I am new here kindly help me as this is my first msg in xda developer.
Ok let me start, I bought htc hd2 which had a touch problem only.. rest of the components are working fine. Now the issue is that i went to market for touch replacement but the shopkeeper said that this version of htc hd2 is very critical as the prints of touch pannel is not matching with other htc hd2 versions.. They replaced the whole pannel with lcd but it didn't work
Kindly tell me any help..
I am using tmobile version of htc hd2
Does not matter what version when replace with LCD as only difference is the solder & socket type connector used between lcd & digi.
All types will work on all models of HD2 when installed as LCD/digitizer set with no exceptions ...
I have done more than 30 HD2 digitizers & swapped LCDs & digitizers across model variants & had no issues.
If it not working they either had bad replacement parts or LCD ribbon connector on mainboard is damaged ...
Hi there,
First sorry for my bad english.
I have similar problem. Last weekend I replaced touch screen + digitizer. Everything went nice, everything works fine after assembly, but... sometimes digitizer did not respond. Usually it happens when I tried unlock the screen. Sometimes work immediately but sometimes I have several times press OFF button then tried to unlock. If screen not responding again OFF and ON. After several attempts it's works normal. Rarely happens during the normal operation, mainly when tried to unlock after wake up. What could be causing this? Faulty digitizer?
HD2 running original latest WM6.5 (firmware 3.14).
tss555 said:
Hi there,
First sorry for my bad english.
I have similar problem. Last weekend I replaced touch screen + digitizer. Everything went nice, everything works fine after assembly, but... sometimes digitizer did not respond. Usually it happens when I tried unlock the screen. Sometimes work immediately but sometimes I have several times press OFF button then tried to unlock. If screen not responding again OFF and ON. After several attempts it's works normal. Rarely happens during the normal operation, mainly when tried to unlock after wake up. What could be causing this? Faulty digitizer?
HD2 running original latest WM6.5 (firmware 3.14).
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Could indeed be bad digitizer or perhaps bad button board or perhaps less than perfect connection on either digi to lcd or lcd to mainboard ...
Mister B said:
Could indeed be bad digitizer or perhaps bad button board or perhaps less than perfect connection on either digi to lcd or lcd to mainboard ...
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Thanks for quick answer.
LCD & Digi I was bought is 60H00300 (socket one). Previous one (original factory) was soldered. I carefully disassembly and assembly and is 100% working except the digi sometimes not. But when I assembly everyting I do not apply double sided adhesive tape because simply I don't have at this moment (just yesterday I bought). Should I disassembly again, check connection lcd to digi and apply adhesive tape? It makes sense to do this? Is adhesive tape really that important?
tss555 said:
Thanks for quick answer.
LCD & Digi I was bought is 60H00300 (socket one). Previous one (original factory) was soldered. I carefully disassembly and assembly and is 100% working except the digi sometimes not. But when I assembly everyting I do not apply double sided adhesive tape because simply I don't have at this moment (just yesterday I bought). Should I disassembly again, check connection lcd to digi and apply adhesive tape? It makes sense to do this? Is adhesive tape really that important?
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So what holding lcd/digi assembly in if no adhesive tape present ?
It is possible some movement from your non adhesive assembly is causing the flex cable to have improper movemnt/stress thus intermittent connection.
Personally I would by another button board ribbon as only $2USD & with that it allows easy testing of device while open & assembly laid side by side plus if button flex is suspect you will have replacement in hand.
I would suspect a bad connection or if unlucky you got a bit of a faulty new lcd/digi assembly
since yours is new phone, they should just replace the whole set, should be still under warranty.
jenelloeyo said:
since yours is new phone, they should just replace the whole set, should be still under warranty.
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It's not under warranty. Phone is 2009 and I got it from my friend. Digitizer stop responding about two years ago and my friend rather than throw it through the window he gave it to me So I just replaced the screen & digi. Thats the story
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Mister B said:
Does not matter what version when replace with LCD as only difference is the solder & socket type connector used between lcd & digi.
All types will work on all models of HD2 when installed as LCD/digitizer set with no exceptions ...
I have done more than 30 HD2 digitizers & swapped LCDs & digitizers across model variants & had no issues.
If it not working they either had bad replacement parts or LCD ribbon connector on mainboard is damaged ...
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I heard that HTC T-mobile has larger dimensions than normal HTC, and i think the LCD will also be bigger. Is it true?
discavery3 said:
I heard that HTC T-mobile has larger dimensions than normal HTC, and i think the LCD will also be bigger. Is it true?
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Digitizer & LCD is 100% same size on all models with no exceptions.
The T-Mobile HD2 US version is 1.5mm longer but that is in the polymer housing at bottom of device under keys & screens are 100% same as I have swapped them & personally own a US T-Mobile HD2 & EU standard HD2
This info & more can be found in HD2 Wiki ...

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