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Navigation on foot

Hi people
A quick question regarding navigation software. I know Tomtom and Navigon are good for driving and for walking round towns and cities but is there any software for off-road walking ?
I love walking and climbing on the fells in the Lake District etc. and it would be handy to be able to fire up the GPS just to check that I am where I think I am

I use oziexplorer for geocaching, so it should be fine for your purpose.
I know that you can download maps for other parts of the world from their website, but I never have ... so I can't say how good they are.
That having been said there are utilities on the site to convert other map formats to be used by oziexplorer.
The site is http://www.oziexplorer.com/

I'm also using OziExplorer for now. Before I go walking / geocaching I scan a paper map and convert the map with the tools that you can get on that site.
If you are using a SirfStar III GPS make sure you turn off static navigation otherwise, if you are walking slower than 4km/h, your map won't update until you have walked about 50 meters.

memory map is my preference, uses OS maps of all kinds as well as allowing adding in your own if you set up the long/lat of a fixed point on it, although ive found it better just to get the electronic os version as the image is far superior, the ahard work is done for you and you can search via place names etc.
also the "3d" images and "fly throughs" make for fun evenings*
*(yes i am a mapping anorak )

Yep, memory map is superb
Always fun to download your recorded route back onto your PC and view it in 3D

GPS2Google
There´s a very nice tool called GPS2Google.
It just records your GPS- data, which you can upload to googleEarth later on.
Here you have 3D . way description.
Very geek an easy tool.
Its not fpr navigating, but you can use it while using your standard navigation-programm thru a virtual - comport-doubler.
Have a look here http://www.s-gps.com/
ciao
Jo

Try Tracky at www.trackthisout.com
I've been in talks with the author and he has now put in the British Grid co-ordinates and the OSGB36 Map datum which means you can use it with Ordnace Survey maps (a big plus in this country)
Tracks can be recorded, overlayed on a scanned in section map and analyzed later.
Great UI too. I am not affiliated

Thanks for the input everybody. I tried OziExplorer but had problems with memory (not got big storage installed so it ran out of memory). Tried Memory Map but found I had downloaded the OS version which doesnt allow you to calibrate your own maps ! Seems I must get a copy from the US site that doesnt have these restrictions.
Not tried Tracky yet, just about to download.
Thanks once again everyone, its nice to know there are people out there who get out of the car once in a while At least I have some idea of whats out there.

OziExplorer CE VGA bug on Athena

Easy to replicate.
Just launch OziExplorerCE on the Athena. Then open a map. It's shown perfectly in VGA resolution without the need of those programs to change to real VGa mode. BUT...
If you click and keep press the screen a pop-up menu comes up. Choose Full Screen in order to see the map in full screen mode. The map appears in the screen for a while and then the map area goes white. If you press the screen and drag it the map comes up again until you release the screen.
The bug is on releases 1.12.32 and 1.12.35 (1.12.3e3) and in the development release 1.11.6h which was the first one supporting VGA mode.
Can someone replicate the problem? Any idea on solving it?
Thank you in advance.
mahjong
P.D.: Sorry about my poor english.

I tried to replicate the bug in a Fujitsu n520 which is VGA too and the OziExplorer works perfect there... so... looks like a problem only in the Athena/Ameto/HTC Advantage.

it tries this
pocket land:
http://www.compegps.com/2006/index.php?detail=detail&opcion=1&lang=0en&grupo=tierra&prod=4
the use regularly. perfect
Hi.

I know CompeGPS... but you know I got hundreds (hmm... even thousands) of maps and ortophotos (is this spanglish?) of my country calibrated (again spanglish? I mean with .map file generated) for OziExplorer... and I'm not too sure about converting all of them in batch-mode into a format recognized by CompeGPS.
Anyway thank you for answering.
mahjong

any news?
Is there any news on OziExplorer?
I have the exact same issue, in full screen my maps go blank.
I can zoom in or out and the map becomes temporarily visible
but when switching on the gps the screen blanks out again...
Thanks for any advice.

bins said:
Is there any news on OziExplorer?
I have the exact same issue, in full screen my maps go blank.
I can zoom in or out and the map becomes temporarily visible
but when switching on the gps the screen blanks out again...
Thanks for any advice.
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I'm still with the problem even running the Developer release of OziExplorerCE. I was told that that one should fix the problem... is not.
So... Fugawi or CompeLand looks a solution if full-screen is a must. Anyway I keep on using OziCE since I have hundreds of maps and sat-photos calibrated for Ozi.

converting
The new (HTC WM6) Rom upgrade did not help either...
Is there a quick way to convert all the ozi maps to one of the other programs (Compe, Fugawi)?
Sent an email to OziExplorer and HTC on the issue (weeks ago) and have not received any reply...

Compe people has info in their web page about batch converting Ozi maps but the problem is that I like OZI. I'm not aware about batch conversions on Fugawi.

compeGPS changed my life...
Well, as I did not get any replies nor found any solutions, I tried compeGPS Pocket Land and it is as if I am timewarped... I thought I could not live without Oziexplorer, but I can...
Far more versatile, 3D view (like TTN) with track up (maps turned so they show you where you are heading), changing moving map icons with a pic of my car, etc. etc., and support that does reply to your questions...
The PC version allows you to search for all sorts of maps available for yor area from within the program (and shows them there).
I too had thousands of maps in ozi format, but I found an easy (batch)conversion program by John Tserkezis: MakeImage (eventually combined with map2ppc for cleaning .map files) which does the trick!
See http://members.optusnet.com.au/~johntserkezis/oziutils.html
Cheers!

Go back evil man!!! Keep that temptation away from me.
Ah ah ah ah ah.

gpx files and navigation

I have a route planned in a gpx fileI need to load this into a sat navigation system or something that will show my route, what options do I have .... its a cycle route so my tom tom just ain't good enough
I think you can load gpx files into garminbut not sure
google maps on the device doesn't seen to accept the files
thanks!

m.r.davies said:
I have a route planned in a gpx fileI need to load this into a sat navigation system or something that will show my route, what options do I have .... its a cycle route so my tom tom just ain't good enough
I think you can load gpx files into garminbut not sure
google maps on the device doesn't seen to accept the files
thanks!
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If you want to upload it I can give it a whirl on Garmin see how it works, thats if you dont have Garmin already of course

m.r.davies said:
I have a route planned in a gpx fileI need to load this into a sat navigation system or something that will show my route, what options do I have .... its a cycle route so my tom tom just ain't good enough
I think you can load gpx files into garminbut not sure
google maps on the device doesn't seen to accept the files
thanks!
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nonigps imports gpx according to the menu but you may have to make a donation to unlock this feature.(no it is enabled in free version)
i use it while sailing and now you can import maps from google earth it is fantastic
http://aeguerre.free.fr/Public/PocketPC/NoniGPSPlot/EN/index.php
I used the free version for quite a while but was happy to support the designer with a donation
cheers michael

ozmoran said:
If you want to upload it I can give it a whirl on Garmin see how it works, thats if you dont have Garmin already of course
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thanks fella
i dont have garmin yet so would appreciate it if you could try,
i had to zip it
here
thanks!

use gpsvp, it takes some getting used to but it's the best there is
(but google maps will import gpx files as well)..

fards said:
use gpsvp, it takes some getting used to but it's the best there is
(but google maps will import gpx files as well)..
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thanks
i've got google maps on my phone but dont see how i can import gpx files?

m.r.davies said:
thanks
i've got google maps on my phone but dont see how i can import gpx files?
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if you have the latest version of google maps then clicking the gpx file using a file explorer should automatically open it..

fards said:
if you have the latest version of google maps then clicking the gpx file using a file explorer should automatically open it..
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i tried clicking on the gpx file but had to manually associate it with google maps
it doesnt do anything though
i've got the one with dutties 3.9 which is version 3,0,1,6
is this the one
?

Right, i've tried the apps mentioned on here
my findings are:
NoniGPSplot
This looks good, but i see no map data, i've enabled the gps etc but still no joy
gpsVP
Also looks good (better that the above) but i had issues loading maps, is there a way to download everything for my route for openstreetmap so it doesn't try and download it all over GPRS?
Google maps
Nice and quick, but again, it downloads maps as you need it, ideally i want to just download the maps i need for my route (is this possible?)
Also it doesn't show the cycle routes properly, so i have to use sat view
any help with the above appreciated as i got the bike ride tomorrow and i dont want my battery to run out in the first few hours (its a 120mile ride!)

[GPS] Best Maps software for the HD2 ?

What is the best maps software available for the HTC HD2 ?
I know the google maps is really good, but one thing I dislike about is that it doesnt have a built in compass.
Nokia maps had a built in compass that rotates according to your position. ( the whole map rotates as well showing what direction you're facing)
Is there such program for the HTC ?

the new google maps support the built-in compass. It doesn't rotate or change the orientation of the map, but it gives you an arrow of which direction your car is heading.

Do I need to download that google maps or is it in the version that came with the HTC ? (going to check that now)
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Nope its not in my current version, where can I get the new one ?
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Okay I followed : http://www.google.com/gmm
Ill see if that downloads the newest version
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It seems I have 3.2.1 .. the newest version stated by that site is 3.3.1
Maybe that will work
Thanks for pointing out the new version, ill reply back here once I finish downloading

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575903

Thanks for the link ^^ Already got it though
And true, in the new version, the blue dot becomes an arrow and points towards what you are facing, Cool !!
Thanks

If for some reason you don't want to use Google Maps AND you live in the UK, Mapyx Quo seems to be pretty good. Check it out here: http://www.mapyx.com/

Isnt that a computer software ?

Have you seen nonigps?
It takes a track and you can set up waypoints which you can export in various formats.
It has an inbuilt compass which points to your next waypoints and also has a few dashboards to choose from
Link here
http://aeguerre.free.fr/Public/PocketPC/NoniGPSPlot/EN/menu.php#M44

how's Bing compared to google maps ?

ZaZu90 said:
Isnt that a computer software ?
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Mapyx Quo is a simple and helpful 100% Free Digital Mapping program perfect for walkers, bikers, anglers, birdwatchers and other outdoor enthusiasts.
With Quo you can connect your GPS to your PC and manage all your waypoints, routes and tracks. View information such as elevation, distance, speed, ETA and you can also print out the OS maps if you wish!
Direct access to top UK walking and biking routes are included free of charge and free UK maps are included.
Mapyx Quo software was awarded "Best Buy" by Computer Shopper and continues to receive rave reviews in computer and outdoors magazines.
“it's simpler and the OS mapping data is usually cheaper. It also has broader file support and Google Earth integration. Because of all this, it's our preferred choice for PC-based mapping”

Map Program that runs from the SD Card.

I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..

HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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CoPilot runs fromt he SD card, but that's a $30 navigation program, not just mapping.

Is there any GPS programs that we can get for free?

I do lots of traveling sometimes in areas that have very limited or no cell service so programs like MS Bing and Google Maps don't work here. I eventually settled on Navigon which stores a completes set of US maps on the SD card and will work regardless of cellular coverage. It works really well and turns the HD2 into what you would expect from a dedicated gps unit. Only downside is the cost, it's $90 but then again you get what you pay for.

somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..

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HTC-187 said:
somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..
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This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.

famewolf said:
This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.
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you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.

HTC-187 said:
you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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Both of the apps famewolf mentioned above will come very close to that (and are free), they just use a different map source. The second one he mentioned is actually called OpenMobileMaps, but it does use the OpenStreetMap.org's database. Here's the link for that one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597957
Now, I googled "caching google maps" (on the full 'net, not just xda), and the 3rd link that came up was this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001
I have no idea if it'll work on the HD2, but I think it's the closest possiblity available to exactly what you're looking for.

Also note that if you want stuff for free, you're going to have to do a little work. You will not find the easy installed, easy setup, works perfectly and exactly as you'd like it too apps that you can "sometimes" find in payware apps. With free apps, the more complex the app, the more fiddling and setup you'll have to do on your own.

HTC-187 said:
you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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My tone was sharp because you started out by asking for "hacked versions of these programs" and not for freeware/shareware. It's also generally considered polite to do a search via XDA first before requesting aid...you get even more help if you say "I did a search and found blah blah and blah but they are not giving me exactly what I'm looking for...anyone have more suggestions".
Another alternative that might work for you, but only if other folks are submitting map updates in your area is http://www.waze.com/
"Waze is a social mobile application providing free turn-by-turn navigation based on the live conditions of the road.
100% powered by users, the more you drive, the better it gets. "

Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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GPS w/turn-by-turn & can use offlie maps for hiking?
z3bum said:
Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
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I'm not new to XDA or PPC, but new to GPS software, jargon, and usage. So forgive me noob question, but I've been reading for days and still a little confused. Features and limitations and jargon on all these sites gets overwhelming. Basically, I'm looking for a GPS software that runs from SD as well, but with 3 more important features/questions:
1. turn-by-turn voice navigation for car use
2. load offline topography maps for hiking, maybe even geocaching/tracking w/altitude, speed, distance, etc.
3. search engine or preloaded POI searching
I understand iGo, TomTom, CoPilot do the car nav and I understand Navicomputer, OpenMobileMaps, and Litetrack do the offline maps and geocaching, but is their an app that does both. I think from the above post z3Bum stated Garmin XT does this so i'm wondering if I missed the big picture and all the 3rd party GPS apps have ability to view and load offline apps and maybe even have geocaching and tracking with all the distance, altitude, etc. goodies. And if so, do the 3rd party apps allow you to load only their maps (if they have them) or can you use maps from other sources?
Do I have to use 3 different apps to achive this (Google Maps = search, TomTom = voice turn-by-turn, NaviComputer = offline geocaching/tracking) or can I do all this with one app? I've been reading and learning for hours and a couple of days now, so I might just be burnt out and everything jumbled, so I apologize if this is an dumb question, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks and hopefully I have not taken post to far off topic.
Edit: got Garmin Mobile XT and it does everything I need it to do. Had to use a little workaround found on XDA to allow me to view multiple maps with Mobile Xt (city nav maps + topo maps) and now I'm happy as can be.

HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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iGo 8.3
It's nice navigation program. You have to pay for it. But google it, you will find it somewhere in a forum cheap