[Q] Garmin fenix SmartWatch functions android. - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Mabe you know Garmin Fenix outdoor GPS watch. It has Bluetooth 4 LE. In latest firmware 4.40, its posiible to use this watch like smartwatch (notifications etc). The only one problem is that it works only with Iphone. But i realized i can normally with no problems connect from my LG G2 kitkat android.
My question is, does anybody know, if its possible to make app for managing this smartwatch functions with andoid? I would like to code this app, but if here is anybody more experienced than me, please tell me if its possible or it isnt. Or maybe some hints where to start.
My idea is that if i have paired device, i can normally use android bluetooth api.

tomsi91 said:
Hi all,
Mabe you know Garmin Fenix outdoor GPS watch. It has Bluetooth 4 LE. In latest firmware 4.40, its posiible to use this watch like smartwatch (notifications etc). The only one problem is that it works only with Iphone. But i realized i can normally with no problems connect from my LG G2 kitkat android.
My question is, does anybody know, if its possible to make app for managing this smartwatch functions with andoid? I would like to code this app, but if here is anybody more experienced than me, please tell me if its possible or it isnt. Or maybe some hints where to start.
My idea is that if i have paired device, i can normally use android bluetooth api.
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This is not relevant to Android Wear. Please consider moving the post to the general forums, or forums specific to this watch. I suspect you will have better success there.

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Bluetooth 4.0 (BLE) Support on the Note 3

Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT
bobbytod said:
Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT
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up!
no news from app vendors in terms of adding BLE support. Don't much understand why it should be that difficult now that the android 4.3 OS does add support for it. So from the app standpoint it should be quite straight fwd!
It looks like Samsung is backing Ant+ rather than BLE somewhat.
The good news for us competitive cyclists that use Garmin products (Garmin owns Ant+), the Note 3 now ties-in with our heart rate monitors and power meters.
While I don't see me strapping the Note 3 to the handlebars, it can stay in my jersey and record the data.
peakjunkie said:
It looks like Samsung is backing Ant+ rather than BLE somewhat.
The good news for us competitive cyclists that use Garmin products (Garmin owns Ant+), the Note 3 now ties-in with our heart rate monitors and power meters.
While I don't see me strapping the Note 3 to the handlebars, it can stay in my jersey and record the data.
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From a developer point of view, the ANT+ API is much, much simpler to implement than the BLE API. The ANT+ API already handles device discovery and decoding of data events from sensors into the useful data without even reading the Device Profile. You just request access to heart rate, cadence, etc, and then subscribe to the event handlers which pass the data to you decoded. The BLE API still requires a lot of work to do the decoding properly, handling characteristics, etc
BLE
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth-le.html
ANT+
http://www.thisisant.com/APIassets/.../plugins/antplus/pcc/AntPlusHeartRatePcc.html
Any update
bobbytod said:
Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT
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Hi BT,
Have you had any success in this since the post. Got the same gear you have and given Alpha MIO says the phone was supported i find this very dissappointing.
Hi mate,
It turns out support for the Alpha is down to application level. I am using it with the latest version of Endomondo and it works as it should. I believe Runtastic works as well, but anything else I can't speak for.
Good luck!
BT
andrewisinchina said:
Hi BT,
Have you had any success in this since the post. Got the same gear you have and given Alpha MIO says the phone was supported i find this very dissappointing.
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Ignore... i found it, thanks
bobbytod said:
Hi mate,
It turns out support for the Alpha is down to application level. I am using it with the latest version of Endomondo and it works as it should. I believe Runtastic works as well, but anything else I can't speak for.
Good luck!
BT
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Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
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andrewisinchina said:
Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
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Hi BT,
Just went endomondo premium but cant get it to hook up the Note 3 and the watch? Do i still need to buy the premium app seperate from the premium account?
thanks for the help
Andrew
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andrewisinchina said:
Ignore... i found it, thanks
Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
---------- Post added at 03:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:36 AM ----------
Hi BT,
Just went endomondo premium but cant get it to hook up the Note 3 and the watch? Do i still need to buy the premium app seperate from the premium account?
thanks for the help
Andrew
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UPDATE: I have Endomondo Premium, Linked with MyFitnessPal and this now works well. I have used it for the past 6 weeks no problem. You need to connect in the right order but this does work.
So, Myfitnesspal is linked to Endomondo Premium (needed for the Heart Rate Monitor)
On first application you need to ADD the Heart Rate Monitor in the Endomondo APP itself, with the Alpha in Workout mode. Make sure you turn WIFI off, on your phone for connection. After the first application the following works everytime
1. Alpha on, put into find heart rate
2. Turn WIFI Off and then Bluetooth on and GPS on (if tracking run or ride)
3. Ignore connection from Native Samsung connection
4. Go into Endomondo, after about 10 secs its then connects
5. Press to start workout mode on the alpha (Endomondo will still track the heart rate and zones even if you forget to put it in workout mode as the app is purely using the Alpha as a heart rate input device.
6. Press Go in Endomondo.
At the end of the training session, do the above in reverse order

[Q] Android wear with bluetooth keyboard? (twiddler 3)

Hey guys I'm interested in perhaps getting a wear watch and using it with a twiddler 3 as a general real time note taking solution. The Twiddler shows up as a basic bluetooth HID device and I'm wondering if it would be supported and if you guys have any other feedback about this idea. Is it possible or is it a dumb idea?

Is there a watch with GPS which I can lock down the interface of?

Hi all,
I'm looking at getting my toddler an Android watch so I can see where she is based on Android Device Manager, but I would want to lock down the interface so that she can't accidentally perform any functions on the UI.
Can anyone help me out with which devices I may want to begin looking at please? Or if anyone's done similar in the past I'd be keen to hear successes and pitfalls etc.
thanks in advance!
ADM doesn't work that way for android wear. Your watch won't show on the web page with your devices. For a.w., it only makes the paired phone ring.
I don't see android wear as a good solution for you, honestly. Unless you got an urbane 2, it would only work while connected to wifi. Locking the screen can be done, but I'm not aware of an app that will work without a bt connection to the phone. Glympse doesn't work without bt connection, it seems.

Bluetooth not paring

My Bluetooth keeps saying wrong pin with all my devices and even the car. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this! Ps. I'm on 4.5.8 cleaned installed.
Thanks
Hello,
I'm getting the same issue with my OnePlus5.
I'm not able to connect any device with bluetooth and each time I try to pair a device (car, smartwatch, other smartphone galaxy S6), the other device shows a pin code and asks if the same on the OnePlus5 but nothing happens on my OnePlus5.
after few seconds (about 30), I get pairing failed message saying "Couldn't pair with DeviceName because of an incorrect PIN or passkey."
Could you please help how to solve the issue. Thanks in advance.
My Device is:
OnePlus 5
OS / Version : OxygenOS 4.5.14
Recovery (stock/twrp/autre) : stock
Root (oui/non) : no
not getting passkey/pin accept prompt on the phone. Smartwatch & phone see one another and the phone attempts pairing, while the smartwatch displays code, but then the phone does nothing, timing out and giving wrong code message. Running 5.02
How can I get the phone to take the next step, to display a passkey confirm prompt? Have I defeated the popup with some other sw e.g. Malware bytes?
p1gnone said:
not getting passkey/pin accept prompt on the phone. Smartwatch & phone see one another and the phone attempts pairing, while the smartwatch displays code, but then the phone does nothing, timing out and giving wrong code message. Running 5.02
How can I get the phone to take the next step, to display a passkey confirm prompt? Have I defeated the popup with some other sw e.g. Malware bytes?
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It didn't work for me with my smartwatch if I choose Bluetooth LE.
What's your setup?
strongst said:
It didn't work for me with my smartwatch if I choose Bluetooth LE.
What's your setup?
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OP5 with 5.02 Oos, rooted, twrp recovery.. what do mean by setup?
p1gnone said:
OP5 with 5.02 Oos, rooted, twrp recovery.. what do mean by setup?
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Exactly that plus which Smartwatch and Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE
strongst said:
Exactly that plus which Smartwatch and Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE
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LG Urbane3520 and the system Bluetooth. What do you mean by Bluetooth LE?
p1gnone said:
LG Urbane3520 and the system Bluetooth. What do you mean by Bluetooth LE?
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How do you connect to the watch? With Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE. My Pebble Time Steel provides both, but with LE im also getting no pass key. That's why I'm asking about connection
strongst said:
How do you connect to the watch? With Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE. My Pebble Time Steel provides both, but with LE im also getting no pass key. That's why I'm asking about connection
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My system/stock Bluetooth pairs just fine with headsets, GoogleHome, my cars A3 & A4, even with my Dell Laptop
Asking for if anyone with similar OP5/5.02 has had similar experience so to see if it is intrinsic or due to other sw interactions.
p1gnone said:
My system/stock Bluetooth pairs just fine with headsets, GoogleHome, my cars A3 & A4, even with my Dell Laptop
Asking for if anyone with similar OP5/5.02 has had similar experience so to see if it is intrinsic or due to other sw interactions.
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Seems like a watch problem, cause I have also an audi A4(2016) and Bluetooth headsets and several connections to other cars and Bluetooth hands free
Maybe someone with the same Smartwatch and op5 can test?
strongst said:
Seems like a watch problem, cause I have also an audi A4(2016) and Bluetooth headsets and several connections to other cars and Bluetooth hands free
Maybe someone with the same Smartwatch and op5 can test?
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New watch. Wife got it as a tester. Not sure its even in the market yet. Who among your associates has an OP5? Me? none.
Watch generates&displays passkey, sees phone
Phone sees watch
User starts pairing
Phone never prompts passkey acceptance
So this seems like the phone is the problem? not to me.
[other background] Paired just fine with an iphone7
SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest that find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL. The point of a forum is for far flung users to share related experience and insights.. SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL.
p1gnone said:
New watch. Wife got it as a tester. Not sure its even in the market yet. Who among your associates has an OP5? Me? none.
Watch generates&displays passkey, sees phone
Phone sees watch
User starts pairing
Phone never prompts passkey acceptance
So this seems like the phone is the problem? not to me.
[other background] Paired just fine with an iphone7
SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest that find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL. The point of a forum is for far flung users to share related experience and insights.. SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL.
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It was not my ultimate contribution to find one with the same watch, just a suggestion, but... It's a new watch, new to the market and it didn't pair with your op5 but with an iPhone 7. Maybe it's a problem of the watch if it's new several phones wouldn't supported maybe.
And since other devices pair successfully with your op5, where to look further? Maybe you have another android phone and can check?
strongst said:
It was not my ultimate contribution to find one with the same watch, just a suggestion, but... It's a new watch, new to the market and it didn't pair with your op5 but with an iPhone 7. Maybe it's a problem of the watch if it's new several phones wouldn't supported maybe.
And since other devices pair successfully with your op5, where to look further? Maybe you have another android phone and can check?
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Not due to the iphone7 pairing. It's unpaired now and it returns to stock when unpairing.
So yeah, will pair/attempt with the wife's S9+ this evening.
Thanks

Bluetooth differences?

Hello,
I want to help a friend with continuous glucose monitoring. His pomp hardware has bluetooth and it is possible to connect it to phone. But only a few phones are compatible - Iphones and a few models of Samsung. When you don't have a compatible phone application displays error.
So, I edited build.prop and application works but I can't find CGM device. I wonder why. What is a difference in bluetooth module in samsung and one plus 5? Or maybe do you know other reason why OP5 can't find this device?
BTW, here is an app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...l&rdid=com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect

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