[Q] What is acceptable battery life time for a smartwatch? - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys! What is acceptable time for a smartwatch to work on single charge? Please answer!

JoeeeWhite said:
Hello guys! What is acceptable time for a smartwatch to work on single charge? Please answer!
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Whatever is acceptable for you. I don't have to, but I plug mine in once a day when I charge my phone. Others seem to think they should get a week out of each charge.

yeah, if you charge it same time with your phone, it's fine. but i was thinking about it and exactly when the phone is on the charger i want to have the smartwatch on my arm, to get any notifications and updates.

LG Android Wear discharging at same rate as phone
Hi all,
I am using the Note 3 with my LG watch. From 7am to now at 1130am my Note3 is at 74% while the LG is 75%. Both units appear to be discharging at the same rate for me.
I was wondering if this is on par with what others are getting?
Personally I wasn't expecting Android Wear to discharge as fast as this. I was hoping to get at least 2 days before charging, but at this rate I don't think this is possible.
I changed from a Sony Smartwatch2 to this LG. The LG has a much nicer screen, but I was getting a significantly better battery discharge rate on the Sony. In terms of notification experience between the 2 watches I think it has been about the same so far.
What has lured me to the Android Wear is having Google Now and a nicer screen. I am thinking perhaps, this is what is putting addition battery drain on the watch? I really hope future updates will increase battery efficiency on both phone and watch.

Update on battery life
Hey Guys,
My LG appears to have settled down now and appears to sip sparingly at it's power supply. Last night it was at 70% before I charged it for the evening. This evening it was at 65%. I suspect it's busier with notifications during a weekday.
Happy with this for now.

i would say as long as you can do a full 24 hours on a watch, i will be content with it. I have the lg g watch as well as the qualcomm toq(yes i know different os..)and they both last a full day.. my electronics sleep when i sleep. cant ask/need more then that.

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Does you Wear Smartwatch affect you phones battery life?

I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
I'm using it with a Nexus 5.. it has a lot of wakelocks but i haven't seen a huge impact on battery life....
You can find a lot more inforamation about the battery life in this thread
Xerionius said:
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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All smart accessories does take up a percent of your phones battery life.
It is also dependent on how frequently you allow notifications to be synced on your phone or "pushed"
e.g. Weather updates. mail updates, social media updates, etc.
While the lowest battery saving settings will not take up to 5% battery, the highest more freq settings can and will leech more battery from your phone.
However with this said, I still find it advisable that smart phone users carry a portable charger, as its always better to have an emergency back up
marcusloke said:
All smart accessories does take up a percent of your phones battery life.
It is also dependent on how frequently you allow notifications to be synced on your phone or "pushed"
e.g. Weather updates. mail updates, social media updates, etc.
While the lowest battery saving settings will not take up to 5% battery, the highest more freq settings can and will leech more battery from your phone.
However with this said, I still find it advisable that smart phone users carry a portable charger, as its always better to have an emergency back up
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What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?
For most it is 3% battery life, big deal. Use bluetooth headset, in car, and the watch.
What is 3% of the 16 hours or so my phone goes in between charges?
When I buy a smart phone I make sure if lasts on the battery and I do not mean just 7am to 10pm checking and odd email; I mean bluetooth on, GPS on,, data on, browse for maybe an hour, games an hour, watch a full movie, dozens of emails, stream video and audio.
I will never need to buy a portable charger, I do not own an iPhone..
The screen shot I seen shows specifically "Android Wear" using battery life, this is an app and has nothing to do with bluetooth.
I am not good at troubleshooting such things but when I check my battery life, Android Wear is not even in the list.
I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
AstroDigital said:
What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?
For most it is 3% battery life, big deal. Use bluetooth headset, in car, and the watch.
What is 3% of the 16 hours or so my phone goes in between charges?
When I buy a smart phone I make sure if lasts on the battery and I do not mean just 7am to 10pm checking and odd email; I mean bluetooth on, GPS on,, data on, browse for maybe an hour, games an hour, watch a full movie, dozens of emails, stream video and audio.
I will never need to buy a portable charger, I do not own an iPhone..
The screen shot I seen shows specifically "Android Wear" using battery life, this is an app and has nothing to do with bluetooth.
I am not good at troubleshooting such things but when I check my battery life, Android Wear is not even in the list.
I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
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I am sorry, I do not get what you mean "What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?"
Do not see anywhere in this thread or my post saying we have issues tethering bluetooth.
Anyways, I am referring to OP worries of 10-20% battery drain from Bluetooth with Push notifications to Android wear.
I own a few android phones as well as a few iOS phones.
Depending on how often you push notifications from your Android phone to the Android Wear, the battery % varies. You cannot see this on the screen anywhere.
Like I mentioned previously, the lowest settings it will not take up to 5% (which means it is lesser)
However if you set push notifications (depending on individual phones and roms) to every minute, it will definitely kill your battery faster.
For example, some phones or modded roms allows you to increase the updates to every minute or 5 minutes.
The following is a list of updates most people would have, but not limited to these
1. Location
2. Weather
3. Social Media
4. Emails
5. News updates
6. Stock and shares
7. etc
What happens is then your Phone will update every minute or 5 minute (using WiFi or Mobile internet) thus draining battery, and then pushed the alert to your android wear or such device.
Thus Android Wear in itself does not drain your battery life, but to be exact the time intervals you want to be sync/updated actually does decrease battery life.
I am not sure if I answered what OP is asking for.
Since I am very sure if using it normally, there is no way it will take up to 5% battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-live/help/poll-how-gear-live-affected-phones-t2808909
Only 3 people had issues.
The poll they are talking about the phone not the watch so you should be able to extend the data to all current and future Android Wear devices.
Tethering a bluetooth device has a small impact.
Most people have small or no impact
AstroDigital said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-live/help/poll-how-gear-live-affected-phones-t2808909
Only 3 people had issues.
The poll they are talking about the phone not the watch so you should be able to extend the data to all current and future Android Wear devices.
Tethering a bluetooth device has a small impact.
Most people have small or no impact
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Ah that I totally agree, no or not much impact from Android wear, only how you set your update / sync / push notification intervals on your phone
Cheerios!
Thank you guys, now I know this won't be a problem. I'm still not sure if I will buy one because I think Motorola made some wrong choices with the Moto 360.
AstroDigital said:
I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
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This is not true and I even find it a little offensive. Just because I don't post at XDA's very often, people assume I have little knowledge on Android.
My Smartphone is one of the cleanest Smartphones you'll ever find. I'm running CM11. The only 3rd-Party-App causing Wakelocks is Whatsapp and I don't have Google Search enabled. I'm not even using Xposed. Every evening I take a look at BBS and make sure there isn't a single unnecessary Wakelock. Believe me, Wakelocks aren't the reason for that.
The Find 5 just doesn't last very long when in use. On moderate brightness I only get 4-6 hours of browsing via Wifi.
To answer the original question "again" no the Wear Smartwatch does not effect my phones battery life.
Oppo what ever I never heard of, I buy smartphones that have great battery life, the Note 3 gets my 2 days on OEM firmware.
If you have have phone that before you turn bluetooth on it only lasts from 7am to say 10pm need a bit more juice drained to turn low power bluetooth on maybe more noticable.
Xerionius said:
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
saggitas said:
Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
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That was something I was thinking about. But almost all my notifications come from WhatsApp and I can't imagine answering from the watch itself is practical, so I don't think this will happen to me.
I'm getting a ton of qcom_rx_wakelock and it has to be from the the watch.
Xerionius said:
That was something I was thinking about. But almost all my notifications come from WhatsApp and I can't imagine answering from the watch itself is practical, so I don't think this will happen to me.
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then you'd better save your money, stick with your phone. Anyway, reviews are coming in about the sub-par battery life of the Moto360, because of it's "mislabelled" 300mAh battery, and power hungry CPU that was used on the Motorola Droid 2 (yes, it's a 4 year old CPU).
there are some known issues of smartwatches draining battery on your phone due to their FW updates
for example this thread in XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573283
There are some others if you search more (here or google), but basically its a FW or update issue with the watch improperly syncing non stop with the phone, hence causing the bluetooth to constantly and actively transfer 1s and 0s between SW and Phone, thus draining battery life.
Besides this scenario, there should not be any other issues that I have encountered.
darkintragedy said:
I'm getting a ton of qcom_rx_wakelock and it has to be from the the watch.
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I haven't specifically noticed that wakelock, but I do get BluetoothRemoteDevices wakelock since I got my Gear Live. My idle drain on the phone does seem a bit worse when paired to my watch compared to how it was before, but I haven't done extensive testing.
I would never believe that it has no effects on your phone
saggitas said:
then you'd better save your money, stick with your phone. Anyway, reviews are coming in about the sub-par battery life of the Moto360, because of it's "mislabelled" 300mAh battery, and power hungry CPU that was used on the Motorola Droid 2 (yes, it's a 4 year old CPU).
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That's what I ment when I said Motorola made some wrong choices. Instead of including a Heartrate-Monitor they should have chosen a bigger battery. Plus, using a Snapdragon 400 and an OLED-Screen (for the always-on-option) would have increased battery life drastical, too.
I decided not to get a Smartwatch. Instead, I purchased a LG G3 I got for a low price a couple of days ago. Unfortunately, I didn't know the bootloader isn't unlockable yet and propably will never be, so I don't really know what to do now. :/
saggitas said:
Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
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its ok !!
Battery doctor
Xerionius said:
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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Battery drainage is one of the biggest problem with the increasing number of functions in the app. You can use battery doctor in your smartphone which help to increase your battery life while you are using Android wear on your smartphones.
No
My phone is not adversely affected by my wear smartwatch.

[Q] LG G2 Battery Drain Issue(s)

Hey dear forum members,
I have my G2 (D802 Europe) now for nearly 1.5 years and I've nerver really experienced that "wow"-effect everyone had with the battery life. Soon I rooted my phone and used cyanogenmod instead. It was a bit better but not for long time and now my nerves are at their end (I don't know why this has not occured earlier :?) so I went back to stock by flashing stock and unrooting but nothing helps. I want better battery life but I don't know why it is so bad.
I get about 6-8 hours of battery life with 2-4 hours of display on time with 50-70% brightness. Sometimes i have 100% brightness but i think battery life is still bad even with 100%. I only use it for calls, whatsapp, facebook, youtube and surfing. I am not even playing games on it. Anyone experiencing the same problem(s)? I was disappointed for over a year but now I have enough time to try things or even send the phone to LG for battery replacement (Root Checker is tripped. Hope it will work anyway if there is no other solution).
Here would be some screenshots of the battery life today but XDA don't want me to do that so I will describe it for you:
Time from 100% to 0% was 7 hours.
Display on time was about 3 hours with 1 hour 100% and since then auto brightness.
In the statistics the display used 39%, the OS 13%, the system 10% and the rest is below 5%
Sorry if my english is bad anywhere in the text I am trying my best.
I hope you can help me with my problem and have a nice day
Small additional info:
I am charging my phone when its about to die before I go to sleep where I would charge it normally. As Example if I use it "too much" for videos or browsing I am charging it while going on with that. And I am not the 100-4% and then full charge person. I charge it when it is possible because it drains so quick. Maybe I harmed the battery over time by doing it but it was also bad when I got the phone new so anyways.

Battery charging wear

Didn't find a main thread for silly questions such as this so hope it wasn't wrong for me to post this here, but I currently find myself in my phone going as low as 50% on a daily basis and I charge it next day at not lower then 40%, will this wear out the battery? am I really supposed to charge it when it's really low? Thanks.
daLareid said:
Didn't find a main thread for silly questions such as this so hope it wasn't wrong for me to post this here, but I currently find myself in my phone going as low as 50% on a daily basis and I charge it next day at not lower then 40%, will this wear out the battery? am I really supposed to charge it when it's really low? Thanks.
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The latest in Li-ion batteries, as the one in our phones, one duty cycle is when you use 100% of the charge.
That is ifyou go from 100 to 0 that's one cycle.
If you go from 100 to 50, recharge and again 100 to 50, that's one cycle.
Batteries wear out depending on the number of duty cycles. More duty cycles, more wear.
So what you are doing will not wear out the battery.
Also I'm not sure about this, but it is recommended that newer batteries should not be completely discharged.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone else who can confirm.
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Modern batteries are not like older (10 years+) batteries. I'm not about to write a wall of facts here etc. etc, but I only have one thing to tell you:
Use your device, and don't worry about the battery. It'll do just fine until the day you decide to buy a new device. Now stop worrying and just use it.
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Modern batteries are not like older (10 years+) batteries. I'm not about to write a wall of facts here etc. etc, but I only have one thing to tell you:
Use your device, and don't worry about the battery. It'll do just fine until the day you decide to buy a new device. Now stop worrying and just use it.
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Same here, these batteries are tough. I am anal about my phone battery being charged. Haven't had an issue for years and I expect the same performance out of my S7E
Topping up your battery before it is fully discharged is the best way to extend your battery life. Modern batteries run best between 40%-80% charge. Minimize the number of times you fully discharge the battery as that is more likely to wear out the battery, although it is ok to use it until the phone shuts off once in a while.
Very impressed with the battery of the S7E. I charged to 100% last night and didn't charge until just an hr ago and was at 47%. Normal use in the morning til now. In n out of meeting, so its doing its job.
Now back to the topic of this thread, i've read some say these newer batteries should be power cycled at least once a month. Any one recommend that or against it? Haven't done it myself but did it a few times on my iPhone 6 Plus and that thing had an awesome battery even though its actually smaller than the S7E. Thoughts???
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Very impressed with the battery of the S7E. I charged to 100% last night and didn't charge until just an hr ago and was at 47%. Normal use in the morning til now. In n out of meeting, so its doing its job.
Now back to the topic of this thread, i've read some say these newer batteries should be power cycled at least once a month. Any one recommend that or against it? Haven't done it myself but did it a few times on my iPhone 6 Plus and that thing had an awesome battery even though its actually smaller than the S7E. Thoughts???
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I've seen it recommended as often as once per month or as infrequently as once every 3 months. The general consensus is that it can be beneficial in that it can correct any issues that the phone software has in determining the battery's capacity, not that it is actually helping the battery itself.
Yup, I did that once in a while with my previous device (a Sony), and the battery on that one is still very good after nearly three years. I wouldn't do it that often though, but it's useful to do it when you notice the battery meter hangs on the lower numbers (like if 10% hangs for an unusually long time) or you've just flashed a ROM. The OS tends to get a little confused after some time, so it's okay to do it to "calibrate" the system again.
Thanks for the helpful replies guys.
Draining a Lithium battery to zero is one of the worst things you can to an Li battery. Don't do it. Period. Ever.
Yes, don't power cycle a battery. It MAY help give a more accurate battery reading, but it's messing up the longevity.
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How is your battery life?

I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
Thanks
aytex said:
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
Thanks
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All depends... For me a full charge will go all day with about 3 hours SOT, but it varies a lot depending on WiFi access, traveling, signal strength, etc. TBH, I carry a charger and cable and tend to top off mid-afternoon of possible.
My only complaint with this device is battery life, but it's still better than my Nexus 4 was no matter how you look at it... But compared to my Moto G3 it's terrible. Is the battery life bad? I don't think so, but I would not call it good either.
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
gemtin92 said:
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
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It's no secret the battery life is not good with this device, but isn't because of the CPU. ~85% of the battery is used by the display in the Style/Pure because the 5.7" LED display is horrible on battery, its beautiful to look at but the battery consumption is ridiculous. The CPU is actually a minor draw of power in the device, if this phone was identical except with an energy efficient AMOLED display, getting 5-6 hours of SOT would be simple. The idle draw on this device is less than 3% per hour and if doze kicks in its under 1% per hour.
I have lg g flex 2 with 1080p oled display runing on snap810 and the story about battery is the same. Ofcourse oled display in moto x would help a little, but its not a display, its a cpu draining so much battery.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
No complaints here. I'm stock, rooted, and xposed using greenify.
Im not complaining too, I just get used to it, battery sux on every 2015 flagship comapre to 2014 and 2016 flagships.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
I've been using the phone for the last 6 months and I'm going to change it ONLY because of the poor battery life. A 5,7" QHD LED display + SD 808 + Moto Display and a relatively small 3000 mah battery isn't a good pack if the goal is to give a decent battery life.
Ironically Lenovo somehow managed to make a SD 820 based device (Moto z) that also has a bad battery life using a small battery. If was enough do do a new X Style with amoled, SD 820 and a 3500 mah battery, but apparently it is too difficult for them.
I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
I've never heard so much bs, I get on average 5h sot which for a 3000mah battery is below average, it's the high res screen that's draining, like someone said before if it was an amoled screen I'd be looking at 6-7h sot but turbo charging helps a lot oh and doesn't deteriorate the battery at all, lmfao keep using your standard charger but also wrap tin foil round your head.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
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I agree 100% with this! I wish I had started using the regular charger sooner. Now I have a Z Force also and while it doesn't have the form factor and front speakers of the MXPE, it's superior otherwise.
I get around two days with 3,5-4h sot or one day with ~4,5h of sot. Imo it's not that bad for such a big phone.
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I'm getting one for 200 bucks as a temp phone for a while

Question in regard to degrading 6p battery

Hello to all,
I just purchased a brand new Nexus 6p that was purchased about two years ago directly from Google. The individual bought it but never even opened up the box so the phone has never been used or even turned on until four days ago when I got it. My question is this. Even though it's still a brand new 6p can the battery still degrade even though it has never been used before? My first thought would be no because the battery has never been used meaning no wear and tear to the battery even though it's just been sitting there unopened for two yesrs but then I got to debating this with myself and I just don't know the clear answer. Should I be okay in terms of the degrading battery issue since my battery has never been used before? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Dconn1975 said:
Hello to all,
I just purchased a brand new Nexus 6p that was purchased about two years ago directly from Google. The individual bought it but never even opened up the box so the phone has never been used or even turned on until four days ago when I got it. My question is this. Even though it's still a brand new 6p can the battery still degrade even though it has never been used before? My first thought would be no because the battery has never been used meaning no wear and tear to the battery even though it's just been sitting there unopened for two yesrs but then I got to debating this with myself and I just don't know the clear answer. Should I be okay in terms of the degrading battery issue since my battery has never been used before? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
v12xke said:
Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
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I appreciate the clarification on that. I wasn't sure when the degrading process started on a battery was. I love you this phone. In fact it's my second time owning it and by far it's my all time favorite Android phone I've ever used. I'm glad to know my battery should act as new and I should be okay from the battery issues. I appreciate you explaining in detail to me about what to do and how to check my battery life. I'll download that app now.
v12xke said:
Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
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Okay I just downloaded accubattey. Now once I charge it for a while I will get results about the health of my battery. What do I need to look for that's tells me it's good? Any tips on using the app. So indeed I never should charge past 80 percent? I always have charged to 100 percent so that's going to take some getting used to. Also I don't need to let it drop below 20 percent? Thanks again for your help on this. This is all new to me as I've never had to guard against a bad battery before nor have I ever had one. I hope my new 6p will be okay. So far it's seemed to have kept a good charge but I'd of course like to see it do a little better being that it has a 3450amp battery inside. There have been a couple times of times where it seemed to eat up battery life quickly but I found out I had some apps running in the background such as YouTube once where it consumed 77 percent of the battery overnight once but I have since fixed that. It hasn't happened again so I'm good there. Anyways just curious to know what I need to be looking for on the app. Thanks a lot!!
Dconn1975 said:
Okay I just downloaded accubattey. Now once I charge it for a while I will get results about the health of my battery. What do I need to look for that's tells me it's good? Any tips on using the app. So indeed I never should charge past 80 percent? I always have charged to 100 percent so that's going to take some getting used to. Also I don't need to let it drop below 20 percent? Thanks again for your help on this. This is all new to me as I've never had to guard against a bad battery before nor have I ever had one. I hope my new 6p will be okay. So far it's seemed to have kept a good charge but I'd of course like to see it do a little better being that it has a 3450amp battery inside. There have been a couple times of times where it seemed to eat up battery life quickly but I found out I had some apps running in the background such as YouTube once where it consumed 77 percent of the battery overnight once but I have since fixed that. It hasn't happened again so I'm good there. Anyways just curious to know what I need to be looking for on the app. Thanks a lot!!
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I've always charged my battery to 100% and will continue . I leave it on the charger at the office and home, all night long 24/7. When I leave the house I want to know it is 100%. One thing to note is that you should not take the phone off the charger until the APP tells you it is charged, not the phone itself. You will see current flowing into the battery sometimes 45 minutes to an hour after the phone says 100%. That, and let the phone drain down to below 20% first in order to get an accurate charge measurement. After that you look on the health tab for the estimated capacity. It will be provided in both mAh and percentage. Quick Start guide here.
v12xke said:
I've always charged my battery to 100% and will continue . I leave it on the charger at the office and home, all night long 24/7. When I leave the house I want to know it is 100%. One thing to note is that you should not take the phone off the charger until the APP tells you it is charged, not the phone itself. You will see current flowing into the battery sometimes 45 minutes to an hour after the phone says 100%. That, and let the phone drain down to below 20% first in order to get an accurate charge measurement. After that you look on the health tab for the estimated capacity. It will be provided in both mAh and percentage. Quick Start guide here.
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So you actually charge your battery to 100 percent. I guess I will do the same since I'm used to doing it that way plus I want that extra 20 percent charge. This seems like a really good app. I appreciate you guys on giving me the heads up on it. I downloaded it to both of my devices which my daily driver is the axon 7 mini. That battery isn't the best so maybe this app will help me tweak that battery into keeping a longer charge. I like a smaller device to be my daily driver although for right now my 6p is my daily driver just bc it's new but after a couple weeks I'll swap back over to my axon 7 mini as my daily driver
Dconn1975 said:
So you actually charge your battery to 100 percent. I guess I will do the same since I'm used to doing it that way plus I want that extra 20 percent charge. This seems like a really good app. I appreciate you guys on giving me the heads up on it. I downloaded it to both of my devices which my daily driver is the axon 7 mini. That battery isn't the best so maybe this app will help me tweak that battery into keeping a longer charge. I like a smaller device to be my daily driver although for right now my 6p is my daily driver just bc it's new but after a couple weeks I'll swap back over to my axon 7 mini as my daily driver
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Yeah, I disable that 80% charge alarm first thing. Accubattery is just a tool and it's just giving you an estimate so don't rely solely on it. I will say that after a few full charges it converges to one percentage value and for me that has been enough confidence that my battery is not in a degrading trend (so far). There are a few Accubattery haters out there but it's been a solid tool for me. Enough so to buy the Pro version. Good luck to you.
v12xke said:
Yeah, I disable that 80% charge alarm first thing. Accubattery is just a tool and it's just giving you an estimate so don't rely solely on it. I will say that after a few full charges it converges to one percentage value and for me that has been enough confidence that my battery is not in a degrading trend (so far). There are a few Accubattery haters out there but it's been a solid tool for me. Enough so to buy the Pro version. Good luck to you.
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Much appreciated! Yeah I think I'm going to be fine in regard to my battery. I mean it's brand new so there has been no usage of the battery until as of about three days ago. I'm super excited to have gotten this unbelievable deal I got on my 6p. Never in a million years was I expecting it either. I got in touch with this guy by chance. There was never any intent on getting a brand new Nexus 6p for 150 dollars but by the end of our conversation that's what he offered me. Just a very generous guy.

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