so i am trying figure out why there is not hardware for transformer other than the whole dock thing which i don't think i can pay that much for it, but i was wondering is there a ac to usb cord we have yet or is the only way to get usb to work is through the dock cause i would like to play some emulation games on t.f. however i am lacking the dock and like the feel of a real controller.
emulation
i had no problem connecting a wiimote to my transformer with snes9x to play old school snes games. wasn't my wiimote so i didnt have time to try other emulators (sega,nes,n64,etc). obviously not the same as using a ps360 controller, but then again there are very very few games that support that anyway.
there is also an adapter asus is supposed to release that converts their special dock port into a real usb port, but unfortunately there is little to no info on it and probably not going to see it any time soon. Samsung was nice enough to release an adapter for their new tablets when they launched, not sure what the deal is with asus.
I use the datel wireless controller, works great for me! Of course there is the extra cost of the controller but it has all the needed buttons for 64 or psx
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Datel-Wireless-Retro-Controller-Wii/dp/B002BA5FAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
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i had no problem connecting a wiimote to my transformer with snes9x to play old school snes games. wasn't my wiimote so i didnt have time to try other emulators (sega,nes,n64,etc). obviously not the same as using a ps360 controller, but then again there are very very few games that support that anyway.
there is also an adapter asus is supposed to release that converts their special dock port into a real usb port, but unfortunately there is little to no info on it and probably not going to see it any time soon. Samsung was nice enough to release an adapter for their new tablets when they launched, not sure what the deal is with asus.
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Asus is betting you'll buy the dock.
Dock and tablet, it's only 50 bucks more than the new Galaxy Tab.
So I'm torn between two options. A PS3 controller + gameklip, and the Moga Pro. Specifically with 4.3.
With our lack of a self powered USB OTG, and the recent changes in Bluetooth from 4.2 onward, what is the "best" controller to use with our N4s?
Rooting is not a problem. As most reviews of android game controllers revolve around not having to be rooted, and having USB OTG support.
I'm leaning towards the Moga Pro with its built in clip, and dual connection mode. (Bluetooth HID, and the Moga app.)
Anyone has experience using both controllers on the N4?
Edit: wasn't sure if to post here or in the Q&A forum. Since the question itself is about accessories. If a mod deems necessary, please move this thread.
gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
I haven't use the Moga so i'm posting for no reason...ha
But I really do love the ps3 controller using an app by the same name from the play store. It really is great how you can image map and such. That being said, there is a Moga thread in this forum somewhere and you might get better results there. Id be interested to hear about the comparison though.
thfreedumb said:
I haven't use the Moga so i'm posting for no reason...ha
But I really do love the ps3 controller using an app by the same name from the play store. It really is great how you can image map and such. That being said, there is a Moga thread in this forum somewhere and you might get better results there. Id be interested to hear about the comparison though.
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Yeah, the compatibility of the ps3 seems to be the best. The ability to map buttons to screen presses seems to be the best way to make any game work, whether it has controller support or not.
I've heard of lag issues of using Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time with the Moga, not sure if these issues were ever fixed or not. Are they present with the ps3 controller? I have unlimited mobile data, but reception is obviously better on WiFi than mobile while inside my house.
The main thing stopping me from using the PS3 controller is the price. Once I buy an official controller plus the gameklip, you're looking at almost $80 after taxes and/or shipping.
I've been watching craigslist and might start looking at local pawn shops to see if I can find a used ps3 controller at a better price. (Unlike GameStop which gives you a whole $5 off for a used controller)
Edit: and while i asked for opinions from those who have used both, I'm more than open to hear from those who have used one or the other. I just want opinions from people who actually use one of these devices on a N4 with 4.3.
gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
hello my friend, i recently purchased the moga pro controller to play with my n4, and im absolutly happy about it, the control feels really nice in your hand, like really nice..i've been playing a lot mc4,riptide gp2, asphalt 8, shadowgun deadzone and a few more, and they all run perfectly with no laggs, i repit, 0 lagg xD... i've been playing some emulator aswell, using the moga universal driver controller, and it runs just fine , playing zelda ocarina of time on this bad boy is really awesome , i have tried sixasis controller, but for like 2-3 days, and it was ok, but u need a gameklip to play with, and the set up for mapping is a bit strange to me ( i dont know why) setting up the moga controller was not a problem, is really easy to set up.
i hope this help to you, if u have any question for the moga pro controller, just ask
grettings
(pardon for my english)
hartleyshc said:
So I'm torn between two options. A PS3 controller + gameklip, and the Moga Pro. Specifically with 4.3.
With our lack of a self powered USB OTG, and the recent changes in Bluetooth from 4.2 onward, what is the "best" controller to use with our N4s?
Rooting is not a problem. As most reviews of android game controllers revolve around not having to be rooted, and having USB OTG support.
I'm leaning towards the Moga Pro with its built in clip, and dual connection mode. (Bluetooth HID, and the Moga app.)
Anyone has experience using both controllers on the N4?
Edit: wasn't sure if to post here or in the Q&A forum. Since the question itself is about accessories. If a mod deems necessary, please move this thread.
gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
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I'm not sure if it will work but I think ziddeys kernel can work...its a modded version of Franco's...it supports OTG...but ul need an OTG cable with external power...
I'm currently using it with flash drives, Mouse, card readers,etc...but I'm not sure if a game controller might work or not...
Here's the link to the kernel...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
hartleyshc said:
So I'm torn between two options. A PS3 controller + gameklip, and the Moga Pro. Specifically with 4.3.
With our lack of a self powered USB OTG, and the recent changes in Bluetooth from 4.2 onward, what is the "best" controller to use with our N4s?
Rooting is not a problem. As most reviews of android game controllers revolve around not having to be rooted, and having USB OTG support.
I'm leaning towards the Moga Pro with its built in clip, and dual connection mode. (Bluetooth HID, and the Moga app.)
Anyone has experience using both controllers on the N4?
Edit: wasn't sure if to post here or in the Q&A forum. Since the question itself is about accessories. If a mod deems necessary, please move this thread.
gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
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I'm on 4.3 rasbean, I use both ps3 controller and the moga controller. I use the ps3 controller when my phone is connected to the TV. I stream my pc, and I play fps and emulators on the TV, it's like a little console for me. Moga works great for the road doesn't work with my pc streaming app but works great with other apps like gta.
Both worked well with Franco and I haven't noticed lag with them. I use them often. Both work great, but Moga doesn't work with everything like kainy my pc streaming app, I play Diablo 3 with the ps3 controller
What's gameklip?
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Tunderpimp said:
I'm on 4.3 rasbean, I use both ps3 controller and the moga controller. I use the ps3 controller when my phone is connected to the TV. I stream my pc, and I play fps and emulators on the TV, it's like a little console for me. Moga works great for the road doesn't work with my pc streaming app but works great with other apps like gta.
Both worked well with Franco and I haven't noticed lag with them. I use them often. Both work great, but Moga doesn't work with everything like kainy my pc streaming app, I play Diablo 3 with the ps3 controller
What's gameklip?
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I will have to check out kainy, that's one feature I loved about the nvidia shield. While the streaming app sounds awesome, I honestly only see myself using it with diablo iii. KB/mouse > controller for fps. Strategy games have too many buttons. Diablo is honestly perfect.
The phone will be the screen. I won't be hooking it up to the television. I'll wait for a dedicated device for that.
Gameklip is a ~$20 plastic clip that will hold your phone onto the ps3 controller. Much like the Moga will hold your phone. A little pricey, but from all the reviews its a very well made clip.
http://buy.thegameklip.com
For you it sounds like you need to sell the Moga and get a gameklip.
gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
I had an Ipega, it wasn't great. Really want to try a Moga but they're still too expensive in the UK.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
Interesting!
I'm 99.99% sure it's their flavor of android.
I like the tegra zone, just knowing anything there will work with no problems.. I'm sure they'll have something similar.
It blows the Ouya's 2012 hardware out of the water!
MOJO is still the best microconsole
T4, USB3, 16GB, BT4 and CTRLR!
And I think the killer feature for MOJO is en route:
GameStream!
Letting me wire into my network at home, and playing all my PC games (that have controller support of course) on my TV... that's what I dream from this little box (alongside its HTPC capabilities which are flawless right now).
mejdam said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
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The SoC in the Amazon Fire is basically a S600. The Tegra 4 is more powerful. If the Amazon Fire was an S800 it could have been more powerful but that's not the case. Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment.
So for gaming if you pay for the MOJO it's 60 dollars more and you get twice the storage, an "extra" USB port (if they ever update the OS to free it up) and somewhat more powerful hardware (the GPU is sometimes close two twice as pwerful, other times much less but still more powerful). And I know that on the HTC One Anomaly 2 drops frames which I'm guessing that on the MOJO it happens less or maybe not at all.
If a multimedia player is your priority the Fire is 100 dollars less (sans controller) has better audio codec support AND optical out (which is very important for some).
I think the Fire will be a better consumer experience but the MOJO will provide a better device for gamers and users (not necessarily the "power" ones) willing to put some effort into it (but unless MOJO puts more effort into the software it will never be a hassle free experience/solution).
For the MOJO T40S GPU performance benchmarks compared to the Adreno 320 in the S600 you can check out the Tegra note review on anandtech and compare with the google nexus 7 (2013) with its qualcomm processor. www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review
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...........Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment......
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1) the amazon fire tv also comes with a standard remote that just isnt an option officially on the Mojo, maybe a Mele f10 ($20).
2) Even though Mojo has been "open" there really hasnt been much development. With the numbers that the fire tv is going to sell there will be more development once they achieve root. Koush has even gone on record and bought one.
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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Your MOJO can run at the same speed!
Just Overclock it a little bit, stand it horizontally.
Or you can overclock it a lot (2Ghz+) and put an USB fan underneath it, to blowing the hot air up.
PS: I haven't done any of this and don't recommend it... maybe in 2 years when the MOJO struggles to keep up
@mejdam
True, hacking community is small, but it's there
It's great that there's more 'microconsoles' more choice :good:
Especially from bigger players.
mejdam said:
dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
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What are you talking about?
You were talking about Ouya and Amazon Fire TV and the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. speed and specs differences, and i ask why the Nvidia Shield is
faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. nothing more.
Get off your high horse please, will you.
Madcatz makes official Amazon Fire TV's controller?
WOW madcat have their 'claws' well into microconsoles!
MOJO, Ouya store and now Amazon's Fire TV's official controller?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-02/amazons-fire-tv-piles-into-the-living-room
Owners can play games with either the remote control or Amazon’s Kindle Fire tablet. For customers who prefer a more traditional video-game experience, Amazon said it would separately sell a traditional game controller, manufactured by the San Diego-based Mad Catz Interactive (MCZ), for $40. “Millions of people have game consoles, of course, and they love them,” says Pete Larsen, an Amazon vice president. “Many, many millions more don’t have consoles, and they don’t have them because they can’t afford them or they don’t want to pay for them. They would love to play games on TV.”
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Looking at it, it does look a bit like the CTRLR (no switch mouse/PC modes), but with all the buttons/triggers/sticks and includes a microphone for voice search. Interesting angular body design too.
I recognise that Dpad anywhere!
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazon-fire-tv-game-controller/
"AA batteries"
"Intelligent power management with auto-sleep."
Getting good reviews too:
http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-53-000...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
@Mad Catz Nate, is it MOJO compatible? is it BT4?
mejdam said:
dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
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The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
rushless said:
The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
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Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
I've been very pleased with my MOJO and enjoy all of it's capabilities thoroughly. MOJO is a better gaming console than the Fire and rooting it will not void any warranties. I never considered buying the Fire and bought the MOJO a week before it came out. As for the Shield, I looked into it a bit, but it didn't fit my needs. I needed a dedicated console for media, android gaming and emulation. This is where the MOJO fills all my needs. I have a tablet if I want a portable gaming device and the Shield would require another controller if plugged into the television. Hooking up and unhooking all the time wouldn't be all that desirable for my wall mounted television. The MOJO fits snuggly behind it out of view. We could go on and on about which device one thinks is better than another, but in the end I think it really depends on what you want to use your device for, and for me, the MOJO fills my needs.
gwaldo said:
Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Sorry to say but the NVIDIA Shield is MUCH more popular then this (M.O.J.O.) device, just look at NewEgg.com and Amazone.com.
The NVIDIA Shield has a special made JoyPad Keymapper so that almost all the games works on it, the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. does not, so only a few
games work good, you have to use third party software to have JoyPad keymapping on the M.O.J.O., and they do not work as good as your own
keymapper software (App).
The NVIDIA Shield has Android 4.4 Kitkat, the M.O.J.O. does not have that, and there is still no news when we are getting it.
The NVIDIA Shield has a fan so he wil not get hot (or overheat) the M.O.J.O. does not have a fan and can get very hot, and can freeze every time, more
people has this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712067
On the NVIDIA Shield you can stream games from cloud (GRID CLOUD GAMING) is not on the M.O.J.O.
And i can go on and on, so he backed up the right horse.
gwaldo said:
Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Actually, on top of AmigaWolf's points, Shield has a console mode to behave exactly like a console
1 Put in console mode
2 Plug up HDMI
3 Choose to use the Shield controller or the bluetooth controller of your choice. Mouse and keyboard too.
You do not even need to use console mode unless you want to use another controller.
Shield seems no contest compared to any current micro console due to the huge option of also being portable with great battery life. Also games that need some touch function can be mapped
to use the controllers with Shield. Apps like DrasticDS and other touch centric apps can be easily mapped, or just use the built in touch function with the display.
This horse won before the race started Very good $200 bet.
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
gwaldo said:
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
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Sorry to say but i can buy a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet, like the Moga controllers, and
many more.
I am the only one which had overheating issue? have you seen my post, 3 other people have it on MY post, but i don't care, i gone go with a different
Android TV BOX (they payed back the money that the M.O.J.O. cost), and i think i gone go with the Android TV BOX that have a Rockchip RK3288, and
that chipset is gone have a ARM Cortex-A17 2.0GHz processor and Mali T628 GPU and it has H.265/HEVC support for 4K2K videos, and HDMI 2.0 for 4K
@ 60 fps video output, and Gigabit Ethernet.
But this (M.O.J.O.) would be a great Android TV BOX if it had also a remote controller, and a ON and OFF button, and Read and Write support for NTFS
formatted Hard drives, and XBMC preinstalled like the Tronsmart Vega S89, that has Dolby Digital (AC3) 5.1 and DTS 5.1 and DTS-HD HRA 5.1 and
DTS-HD MA 5.1 HDMI passthrough.
And of cores a control mapper like the NVIDIA SHIELD, with the NVIDIA SHIELD it automatically downloads the mapped controls for that particular game.
Now it is just a Half-baked Android TV BOX, and you have to do to much to get everything working, and a lot of Apps won't work because you first have to
Root him, and thats to hard to do for the normal people that just don't know how all that work, they just want to buy a machine that has everything already,
now it's to much work, and thats also one of the biggest reason most people won't buy this Android TV BOX.
If that all was made correct the first time, this Android TV BOX would be a great BOX.
Mad Catz could have learned so much from NVIDIA Shield if they just looked and waited how they have done it.
The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
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The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
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I know it's hard to hear the truth, i feel for you i really do.
Thank you very much for your kind words:silly:
OP can you test the amazon remote that comes with the fire TV on the mojo and ouya? I'm looking to get either the mojo or ouya after sending my fire TV back but would like to know if the simplified remote will work with either one. I wouldn't want to use the controller for media playback also to keep it simple for the kids to use.
I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
Nothing really. I am tired of developing simple games for small screens and would love to jump to developing games for the big screen but without obstacles that big consoles put on indie devs. I will port at least tree of my games immediately I get hands on it (which might take time, Google doesn't ship to Poland). I am also developing a new platformer game with a mini console as a main target (and multiplayer like in Rayman Legends) in mind.
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I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
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Totaly agree, some people dont like the PS controlls but someone likes XBOX controlls people should just get to select what controlls them want to use to the device.