Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
Tim34 said:
Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
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I am also interested in knowing the answer to this question.. infact the s4 exynos has got the custom roms so will this device follow suit?
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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drakester09 said:
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Will you only build a kernel or a complete rom?? I just so want stock looking custom rom hahahah
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Okay so my Note 2 is sold and I am buying the S4 (I9500) tomorrow or the day after, but I was shocked after going to the Development section! There is no Android Rev HD ROM for I9500 but I9505 version is there! Why?
Also more things are available for I9505, but for I9500 very least amount of mods! Since I used ARHD on my Note 2 I never ever used any other ROM, as it was so fluid (never thought Android could be that smooth!) and never went back to stock ROM! And I hate AOSP ROMs, so if I buy I9500 my option is to stay on Stock ROM now or what?
This could well be a deal breaker for me!
The i9500 is only available in cirtain countries and is isn't very favourable to devs because of all its closed source hardware. It's why cm etc find it a lot harder to develop for. You can get really good stock based ROMs such as omega etc but due to its restricted availability you won't get as many devs for them.
Would still be a really good buy though. Give it time, as contracts get cheaper over time there should be more interest in them
@jujuburi
Hi,
Welcome to the S4 forum.
Please check out the Help Thread for the S4 in my signature.
Senior Member 123hiten had the i9500, and managed to get hold of a i9505.
You might want to talk to him about how he was able to do that.
jujuburi said:
Okay so my Note 2 is sold and I am buying the S4 (I9500) tomorrow or the day after, but I was shocked after going to the Development section! There is no Android Rev HD ROM for I9500 but I9505 version is there! Why?
Also more things are available for I9505, but for I9500 very least amount of mods! Since I used ARHD on my Note 2 I never ever used any other ROM, as it was so fluid (never thought Android could be that smooth!) and never went back to stock ROM! And I hate AOSP ROMs, so if I buy I9500 my option is to stay on Stock ROM now or what?
This could well be a deal breaker for me!
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Yup, that got to me too, unfortunately i didn't do my homework first by checking the development section. One of the main reasons is the CPU chipset, and the amount of people who own the i9505. First it is easier as i understood to work with the snapdragon than the exynos and also most people which includes developers have the i9505 and the ROMs cant work on both devices because o the chipsets.
Now about lag, you dont need to worry, I am still in stock rom rooted and there is DEFINITELY no such thing as lag....runs smooth as butter, but i was still disappointed in the lack of ROMs which I like to flash for fun.
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I was just wondering why CM11 has already been ported to the N9005 but not to the N900? Is it the Exynos sources or simply that no developers have ventured on that yet? In either case, thanks to the incredible developers on either phone that make them even better than they are, and do it all mainly for free
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I was just wondering why CM11 has already been ported to the N9005 but not to the N900? Is it the Exynos sources or simply that no developers have ventured on that yet? In either case, thanks to the incredible developers on either phone that make them even better than they are, and do it all mainly for free
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It's both, for the most part. Samdung has a long and sordid history of providing incomplete and/or outdated sources for its Exynos devices in particular, and what impacts things to the greatest degree is probably the missing userspace drivers needed to make the major components (camera, etc.) work properly. They've burned the Open Source dev community so many times and so badly each time that even the best have basically given up and walked away from it.
It's almost time to retire my trusty S2. My choices for replacement are the 9505 or the 9506. The 9506 is newer, probably better technology, but there is more custom stuff ready for the 9505. So which way to go? Neither the s800 with a higher CPU nor the slightly higher LTE category (LTE is crap here in Greece) in the 9506 are not dealbreakers for me. I am more interested in stability, customization, and the upgrade path to lollipop.
I9505
Anyday.
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DeepankarS said:
I9505
Anyday.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
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Thanks. Could you say a bit about why?
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Thanks. Could you say a bit about why?
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I use a i9500 still I yearn for a i9505.
-Better dev support
-More Roms
-More Kernels
-More acceptability (on XDA as most of the devs have i9505, thus can help better)
-More guides and and a universally used board, so if you want to turn into a dev, you have more guides
-A method to flash custom roms without tripping KNOX!
I9506 is not known. Whatever maybe the reason, people with i9506 long for a custom rom.
And if one S4 variant gets and upgrade, all S4s will get an upgrade.
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That more or less confirms what I thought. I guess there are more developer support and customizations for the 9505 because it came out before the 9506. Still, it'd be nice to have the newer CPU and GPU (as they tend to be more efficient) and I suspect there are some other minor improvements as well. I see there are unified ROMs that work on both models, though definitely more for the 9505. At least they are both using snapdragons, so they well-enough documented compared to exynos.
Hey all, i am thinking of buying a note 4 and in my country they sell both variants the F and the C, I dont care much about custom aosp roms and i would like to ask, the S6 firmware when it comes on what variant it can be ported more easily? If not the whole rom then maybe most of the features?
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It's possible but I wouldn't expect to see it for some time. First we need the device. Also the Source for said device/kernel. Also the source for your device your porting to. Then there has to be a developer; with both devices, has time to develop, willing to share it, has not left XDA, and is willing to support and fix any problems. Basically flip a coin. Guess heads or tails. That's your answer.
There is a posibility that we'll get the new touchwiz UI in a later update..5.1 maybe.
That is why i am asking, to me as i understand N910C is the more powerful CPU, i don't play many games so for me its my first choice, but in terms of support we all know that the exynos doesn't have any sources, so i am asking if and when the S6 comes, will i get the ported touchwiz hypotheticaly or the snapdragon version is easier way to be ported?
As the title says, why? For example N910C only gets close to stock kernels (talexop, h-vitamin, suemaxx) while the snapdragon variant gets super customized kernel (emotion)
@Hani K. the developer of Simplicity Kernel (which is the most customized kernel for n910c, but it is only for lollipop) said that he wants to bring Simplicity Kernel to MM
Until now it is still not happening, what happened?
I am not a dev, but i have the snapdragon version, and from what I've read about both phones, I believe it comes down to 2 factors. First, this one is just an assumption, the snapdragon version was more widely sold.
Second, this is the main reason I've read about, that the 64bit exynos chip is harder, more complicated to build for. Cause snapdragon releases its source code and Samsung doesn't provide good info on their chips.
Don't quote me on this, but that's how i understood it, when i looked into this, myself. Some one can correct me if im wrong.
Yes you totally correct, its all about Samsung releasing the source code for their exynos 5433, if developers had access to this, it would be a lot easier to develop for this chipset.
Edit: Just by the way, Exynos 5433 is 32bit based, however the hardware does support 64, due to the missing source code and the array of new devices, it will never be enabled by Samsung or a third party
Well, I have already clarified why it is taking long, but let's start by answering your question:
I personally don't think Exynos Variant is getting more or less than Snapdragon, both were sent to different parts of the world and both are (or were) getting equal attention which was never the case with the older models. However, the device is more than 2 years old now, most of the developers have already upgraded their devices and started development on their new platforms. For me personally, I have been quite busy with life so far, and my close friends knew that since the day I released SimplRom v5, which is why I have created H-Vitamin kernel. Simplicity kernel requires a lot of time and intensive testing, and I'm a one man brigade in my team when it comes to Exynos department due to it's uniqueness, from developing ROMs and Kernels to Sound mods, theming and development tools that I had to create in order to make my work possible. My biggest constraint is/was time and I couldn't afford that luxury, so I went with what most of the people were looking for, "Simple, Fast and Battery friendly", which is H-Vitamin.
Nevertheless, I have posted an update in SimplRom thread a few hours before you make this thread. Since I've got some free time in my daily routine, I'm planning to update some of my projects and when the time is right, I will upgrade Simplicity to the latest version at that time.
I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the majority of firmware developers are US based and the US variant of the Note 4 tends to use the Snapdragon 805.