Hello i had this battery drain problem the battery was draining so bad.İn seconds it was dropping from %49 to %46
So i changed my battery to a mobile technicer.But same problem is keep happening, he told me i should charge my phone for 10 hours on my first charge and i did it but its all same.
My charge wont last even 2 hours screen on time.
Pls help me i tried to calibrate but it just made it worse.
You need to figure out what's drainng the battery. Get gsam or betterbatterystats to figure out what's causing it. Anything else is just a guess.
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jd1639 said:
You need to figure out what's drainng the battery. Get gsam or betterbatterystats to figure out what's causing it. Anything else is just a guess.
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They all seem quite normal
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They all seem quite normal
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If you don't see anything unusual after a few hours of using GSAM/BBS, no extreme wake locks or times held awake, I would then do a factory reset and see if the problem continues, if it does then you may have a bad battery and it will need to be replaced, it is not difficult to do, a simple YouTube search will show you tons of examples of how to do it.
If that isn't it, although it is rare, you would have bad hardware and need to get the device serviced or replaced.
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If you don't see anything unusual after a few hours of using GSAM/BBS, no extreme wake locks or times held awake, I would then do a factory reset and see if the problem continues, if it does then you may have a bad battery and it will need to be replaced, it is not difficult to do, a simple YouTube search will show you tons of examples of how to do it.
If that isn't it, although it is rare, you would have bad hardware and need to get the device serviced or replaced.
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İ was using pa but i unrooted and stocked my devixe yeaterday but its the same.My other battery was way worse but this one is annoying too.Could it be the brand of the battery?
Download and install from the playstore the app Wakelock detector, let your N4 get to 100% in battery and unplug it and try to use it as usual. When it reaches 10 or 5% take a screenshot of wakelock detector and post it here. Try also to take a screenshot of GSAM or Betterbatterystats.
do you try to change kernel or rom ?
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do you try to change kernel or rom ?
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Kernels and roms make very little difference. It's how you use the device and the wake locks you get. Without something like gsam or bbs it's only a guess what's causing the issues.
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maybe there is some kind of secret service that runs on the background and drains the battery ?????? well thats pretty weird.....
ΧperiaΜan said:
maybe there is some kind of secret service that runs on the background and drains the battery ?????? well thats pretty weird.....
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what kind of battery life are you getting from your phone? screen on time?
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Kernels and roms make very little difference. It's how you use the device and the wake locks you get. Without something like gsam or bbs it's only a guess what's causing the issues.
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this, absolutely right. battery life depends on how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you have installed, and mostly on the quality of the phone/data connection that you have.
İ dont think its a software problem guys.My newest stats: http://i.hizliresim.com/rLNLAB.png
Any calibrating suggestions?
We need more detailed information than this to troubleshoot this... Without that information we can't really help. We need screen shots of Wake lock Detector, BBS, or GSAM. GSAM is the easiest to interpret, so shots of the main screen, app sucker set to time held awake, screen and radio would be needed to assist further, in English if possible.
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We need more detailed information than this to troubleshoot this... Without that information we can't really help. We need screen shots of Wake lock Detector, BBS, or GSAM. GSAM is the easiest to interpret, so shots of the main screen, app sucker set to time held awake, screen and radio would be needed to assist further, in English if possible.
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There you go:
http://i.hizliresim.com/kr8WqA.png
http://i.hizliresim.com/NV21a5.png
As i told,everything looks fine.
Everything does not look fine...Two things that's bothering me looking at this is the GSAM shot, it is showing you drawing 1500+ma off the battery... Seems very excessive, I usually see 350-900ma at most (433ma at moment). And the 41% of usage by the screen in just over an hour use seems kinda high, what is your screen brightness set at, and what does the GSAM Screen usage screen say, anything in the Medium or higher category is using very significant battery.
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Everything does not look fine...Two things that's bothering me looking at this is the GSAM shot, it is showing you drawing 1500+ma off the battery... Seems very excessive, I usually see 350-900ma at most (433ma at moment). And the 41% of usage by the screen in just over an hour use seems kinda high, what is your screen brightness set at, and what does the GSAM Screen usage screen say, anything in the Medium or higher category is using very significant battery.
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Screen brightness is set on auto and
gsam screeen page says Discharge will on/off: %10/%4(the screen was on for 10 mins.
Should i calibrate or try something else?
As i told its a new battery but the same issue
Btw i had red ligth of dead 4 times could that matter?
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Screen brightness is set on auto and
gsam screeen page says Discharge will on/off: %10/%4(the screen was on for 10 mins.
Should i calibrate or try something else?
As i told its a new battery but the same issue
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"Calibrate" is a misnomer, it will not affect battery life or current draw, years ago in the Froyo/Gingerbread days you would wipe the battery calibration file to reset the display and estimated run-time remaining, it doesn't affect actual battery use or life, just how it is displayed and runtimes are calculated. You can always download a Battery Calibration app from the Play Store and use it, it won't hurt anything but I believe most require root access. I have seen some discussion that this is irrelevant in KitKat since the file is rebuilt on each boot, but I can't verify that.
Honestly though, when I look at your GSAM screen with 2:40 average screen time and just over 3 hours max, this part doesn't look unusual, but it doesn't jive with the screen shot showing 1:19 screen time using 42% of the battery... you are at 12% after 10.5 hours, the phone is obviously sleeping properly (only 28min held awake over 10+ hours is quite good), but at the same time you are showing 5%+ per hour drain. A little puzzling but not outside of the realm of normal.
I'm not really sure what else to say, every phone is different, this may be normal for your device, without screen shots of app sucker and screen usage in GSAM I can't really say anymore... try the standard stuff like switch to Device Only in location services to stop Google Play Services drain, lock the screen brightness at 20-30%, disable syncs, etc.
Of course, this could be something in hardware too... I had a Samsung once that no matter what would drain 5-10% per hour well sleeping even in airplane mode, yet no one else in the forums ever commented that theirs did, turned out it was just a lemon, a replacement would drain less than 1% per hour.
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Hello everyone, i purchased my Nexus 7 and it arrived in the mail 3 days ago. And as with every other Android device ive ever owned, the batter is absolutely terrible. I get about 2hrs on screen time when browing the web and maybe playing an occasional game. Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Or have any way to help? Thanks so much
That is pretty bad. Try a factory reset. Might be something you installed.
I'd hate to do a factory reset cause I just barely got it set up but..I'll try it anyway tonight
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I'd hate to do a factory reset cause I just barely got it set up but..I'll try it anyway tonight
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Doing a factory reset before installing anything is becoming the gold standard.
Hope it helps you.
I get between 7-9 hours of active use. Sounds like some process is running amok on yours. I didn't factory reset when I bought it either....though I have rooted it since then, but battery life is about the same pre and post root.
You might want to consider a program to monitor battery use to see what's eating it up. Maybe do that before you factory reset it so you don't install the same thing again.
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Doing a factory reset before installing anything is becoming the gold standard.
Hope it helps you.
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Really? Like as soon as you set up the device, you are suppose to factory reset it? And since im facotry resetting it 3 days into having it, do i have to calibrate the battery again?
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I get between 7-9 hours of active use. Sounds like some process is running amok on yours. I didn't factory reset when I bought it either....though I have rooted it since then, but battery life is about the same pre and post root.
You might want to consider a program to monitor battery use to see what's eating it up. Maybe do that before you factory reset it so you don't install the same thing again.
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Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
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Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
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System panel is a good app to find what's using your CPU and better batterystats can help find what's keeping your phone from going to deep sleep. An easy way to see if this is the case is go into battery setting and select the first option(history details). Compare the Awake bar with the screen on bar. Those two should be nearly identical if not then you have a rogue app.
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Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
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The one I've seen mentioned several times in here is BetterBatteryStats. I just don't want to drop $3.00 on something I don't need. It might help your issue though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
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System panel is a good app to find what's using your CPU and better batterystats can help find what's keeping your phone from going to deep sleep. An easy way to see if this is the case is go into battery setting and select the first option(history details). Compare the Awake bar with the screen on bar. Those two should be nearly identical if not then you have a rogue app.
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Alright ill try system panel, and i looked at the battery setting and awake and screen on are almost exactly the same.
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The one I've seen mentioned several times in here is BetterBatteryStats. I just don't want to drop $3.00 on something I don't need. It might help your issue though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
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Well then, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Alright ill try system panel, and i looked at the battery setting and awake and screen on are almost exactly the same.
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have you flashed any kernels or roms? sometimes this makes the tablet report the wrong battery stats for a bit.
did you run the battery down until it turns off and then give it a full charge? sometimes you have more juice than what is being reported. ive been stuck at 1-2% for over an hour before. Most likely its a rogue app though, system panel and better batterystats should find out what app it is. if they dont then it could be that you have a defective battery...
Been on mine continuously for 3 hrs 18 mins and at 60%. Excellent if you ask me. Next step up in battery life would be Transformer series with dock.
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Hello everyone, i purchased my Nexus 7 and it arrived in the mail 3 days ago. And as with every other Android device ive ever owned, the batter is absolutely terrible. I get about 2hrs on screen time when browing the web and maybe playing an occasional game. Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Or have any way to help? Thanks so much
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Quite the opposite for me; unlike every other Android device I've had (Nexus One, GS2) the battery life is excellent. I watched 720p mkv video on the train yesterday for a good 3 hours, and still had ~70% by the time I got home, from a full charge.
The battery life is excellent, as far as I'm concerned.
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Really? Like as soon as you set up the device, you are suppose to factory reset it? And since im facotry resetting it 3 days into having it, do i have to calibrate the battery again?
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Don't think you needed to calibrate the battery to begin with. I usually get fine battery life without doing anything special.
Something must be causing the poor battery on your Nexus, Yesterday after my N7 was fully charged, I watched the movie Thor for 1hr and 54 minutes n and my battery only dropped to 83%.
I'm at 16 hours and 52 minutes with 3 hours and 44 minutes of on screen time, the battery is at 51%
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have you flashed any kernels or roms? sometimes this makes the tablet report the wrong battery stats for a bit.
did you run the battery down until it turns off and then give it a full charge? sometimes you have more juice than what is being reported. ive been stuck at 1-2% for over an hour before. Most likely its a rogue app though, system panel and better batterystats should find out what app it is. if they dont then it could be that you have a defective battery...
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My N7 is completely stock and has never been rooted. I also did do a couple charge cycles which didn't seem to help much. And better batterystats has AudioOut_2 at 38% (while I'm playing music) but other than that it doesn't seem to be a rogue app
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Download CPU spy from the market to see if the tablet is sleeping properly, and what frequency its constantly running at
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My N7 is completely stock and has never been rooted. I also did do a couple charge cycles which didn't seem to help much. And better batterystats has AudioOut_2 at 38% (while I'm playing music) but other than that it doesn't seem to be a rogue app
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Unless you listen to music for over 5 hours or streaming the songs it shouldnt use that much battery. If you can't find a wakelock with better battery stats then it might just be a bad unit.
It seems that the battery drain on my newest N7 (RMA'd first one) is waay worse than on the other, I'll attach some screen shots of what I mean.. it may be just the WiFi is using a lot more than the other's :S I left it 4 hours alone with WiFi and the battery drained 20+ % which even with WiFi on seems excessive does it not? Is it possible I got one with a faulty WiFi radio? I will be testing tomorrow (or maybe tonight) to see battery drain with WiFi turned off to compare, because it also seemed to drain fast when I was just out and about with WiFi off :/ worried I have bad battery, deep sleep isn't working right (it is going into deep sleep or at least thinks it is from looking at cpuspy), or faulty WiFi... or just too early to judge XD has anyone noticed battery improve over time ? I forget if I did was a month ago I got the original
BTW first screen shot was taken pretty much right as I was leaving for work, so you can compare the battery drain there..
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I doubt it's a bad wifi radio, its probably an app that is syncing like crazy in the background.
I'm currently watching the MediaServer app use a disproportionate amount of battery (14% and rising). I deleted a number of images which must of kicked in the scanner which must be very inefficient.
I also noticed my N7 become very slow at the same time.
Possibly you downloaded a large amount of images/music/etc before putting your device to sleep...
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I doubt it's a bad wifi radio, its probably an app that is syncing like crazy in the background.
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I really wish I could figure out why maps keeps starting a process.. can you check to see how many instances of maps there are ? In particular one running Prefetcherservice.. as for the other comment, media server is sitting at 6%, android is at 14%, and screen at 67%.. though I did copy a bunch of songs and pictures over after the RMA, is there a way to fix these or should I delete them to see if it gets better ?
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Sigh, I might just have a bad battery, or preferably poorly calibrated, since another hour of use, just browsing and such, and I'm down 20% more -_- hope I don't have to RMA again
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As a side question.. how hot does your tablet get under normal use? Mine has been heating up quite a bit in the battery section i think with just average on browser use :/
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As a side question.. how hot does your tablet get under normal use? Mine has been heating up quite a bit in the battery section i think with just average on browser use :/
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Nothing you've mentioned sounds even the slightest bit out of the ordinary. I know a person who thinks they are always sick is a hypochondriac so is someone who always thinks there is something wrong with their computing device a hypo-com-driac?
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Nothing you've mentioned sounds even the slightest bit out of the ordinary. I know a person who thinks they are always sick is a hypochondriac so is someone who always thinks there is something wrong with their computing device a hypo-com-driac?
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Bahaha good one I dunno, the problem is that this is literally my fourth N7 since the other three allll suffered from major screen lifting, so maybe I am looking for something wrong just so i can make sure it's perfect... Though I do think the battery life is pretty weak, I think I may have figured SOMETHING out, the only difference between this and my original is that my original had a huge section of the map of my area downloaded, and since I did that maps hasn't started any additional processes.. so good sign ? maybe ? haha
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Bahaha good one I dunno, the problem is that this is literally my fourth N7 since the other three allll suffered from major screen lifting, so maybe I am looking for something wrong just so i can make sure it's perfect... Though I do think the battery life is pretty weak, I think I may have figured SOMETHING out, the only difference between this and my original is that my original had a huge section of the map of my area downloaded, and since I did that maps hasn't started any additional processes.. so good sign ? maybe ? haha
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Yeah this might be a good time to stop looking for trouble and just enjoy the tablet for a while. I drop mine on the charger in the morning and don't ever really think about the battery other than that. Whatever the battery stats say now they won't say in a week and they won't say after you flash to a different ROM. If you have wifi on apps will sync and the tablet will loose it's charge. I'm never far enough away from an outlet to make it much of a concern. So maybe just take a breather, install the Angry Birds and have some fun for a bit. Eventually we'll have ROM's and kernels that make this thing sip electricity but for now I get the few hours a day I need out of it on one charge so I'm set.
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Yeah this might be a good time to stop looking for trouble and just enjoy the tablet for a while. I drop mine on the charger in the morning and don't ever really think about the battery other than that. Whatever the battery stats say now they won't say in a week and they won't say after you flash to a different ROM. If you have wifi on apps will sync and the tablet will loose it's charge. I'm never far enough away from an outlet to make it much of a concern. So maybe just take a breather, install the Angry Birds and have some fun for a bit. Eventually we'll have ROM's and kernels that make this thing sip electricity but for now I get the few hours a day I need out of it on one charge so I'm set.
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You think the battery life will get much better than what it is? My only other android experience is my HTC Desire Z which has a horrible battery as it is so it didn't improve much at all with custom roms
Speaking of improved life through ROMs and kernels, have you noticed any kernel providing particularly better battery life ? I'm on trinity right now, no voltage changing, but underclocked to 1.1 ghz from 1.3
Factory reset, see if the problem continues. That's the only way decide if it's a HW problem.
And my N7 uses effectively 0% battery in standby, it was off the charger yesterday for 6 hours and when I started playing around it was still at 99%. I turn off wifi on screen off, however.
Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to find out what's waking up your phone, the apk is in the second post. Install, charge it up, unplug, leave for 4 hours idle then look at partial wakelocks and alarms.
I saved quite a bit of standby time by disabling location services and Facebook.
If your not using nfc that could save battery?
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to find out what's waking up your phone, the apk is in the second post. Install, charge it up, unplug, leave for 4 hours idle then look at partial wakelocks and alarms.
I saved quite a bit of standby time by disabling location services and Facebook.
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^ do that
I used Better Battery Stats to figure out Google Maps was causing wakelocks. I cleared data in the maps app and now my 7 idles without much battery drain at all.
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I used Better Battery Stats to figure out Google Maps was causing wakelocks. I cleared data in the maps app and now my 7 idles without much battery drain at all.
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Haha I actually just read your post in the kernel thread about this and immediately cleared map data, now I'm about to unplug and see what happens!
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Haha I actually just read your post in the kernel thread about this and immediately cleared map data, now I'm about to unplug and see what happens!
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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Well, left it for an hour on standby with wifi on, 0% drain, let's see how rest of day goes !
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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So it seems like partial wakelock is mostly audioout_2 which i assume comes from me playing a game with music amongst other things?
Alarms says com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox has 50 wakeups, and maps has 38 :S why does maps keep trying to kill me?! and what is the googlequicksearchbox doing waking the tablet up...
Wlan_Rx_wake seems to be the culprit of semi bad battery. Is there a way to prevent the tablet from waking up all the time? Maybe just unsync or turn off WiFi instead?
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So it seems like partial wakelock is mostly audioout_2 which i assume comes from me playing a game with music amongst other things?
Alarms says com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox has 50 wakeups, and maps has 38 :S why does maps keep trying to kill me?! and what is the googlequicksearchbox doing waking the tablet up...
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When my battery drain was bad I had something like 250+ wakeups from maps under the alarms section in only a few hours off the charger and Maps was showing up as the most common reason for partial wakelocks.
I think AudioOut_2 is normal - Im not sure what it does though. Im now at 8+ hours of standby with 99% battery. Under alarms im showing 138 Maps wakeups and 76 from google quick search box. My drain is all gone now though so i assume this is within normal range. The better battery stats thread and a few other threads on XDA have detailed descriptions of the different battery draining wakelocks and possible remedies. Not all wakelocks are bad though.
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
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Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.
Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
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Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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What else would you like to know?
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What else would you like to know?
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A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
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Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
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The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.
My battery is draining too fast after upgrading to android 4.3. Even only on 2g there is 1% decrease in battery almost after every 3 minutes. But with screen off it will remain almost at 99% after even 12 hours or more. But when I start using the phone for something like even navigating through the settings the battery drops 1% every 3 minutes or even less. My handset is about a month old. I am from India and running the ML4 android 4.3 recently released by Samsung. There is no wakelock when the screen is asleep. The phone screen consumes between 60 to 90% of the battery or more. I factory reset it thrice since the update but with no effect. I am running the 4.3 update for about 3 weeks now. I also installed Greenify, battery doctor, juice defender etc to save battery but there is no improvement. I installed the same apps that I installed on the 4.1.2 firmware but the battery is draining quite faster in the 4.3 version. I also freeze almost all bloatware using Titanium backup and even uninstalled some like Google Books etc. but no use. I don't use wifi or wifi hotspot at all. I rarely use bluetooth. GPS, location, etc off. I even freeze Google Play store, Google play services and Google services framework. No multi window, no smart stay, no s voice, no ripple effect, no live wallpaper, etc everything off but still the same. If there is anyone facing this issue and has already found the solution, please help me out.
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I forgot to mention that screen brightness is at minimum or minimum-auto.
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Do a clean install with Odin?
Also try, http://www.androidbatterylife.com/?m=1
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I remember my 4.1.2 had the same battery consumption and with 4.3 it remained unchanged(if not better). I think you just gonna get used to that .
Use your phone and stop thinking and worrying about battery. Though I charge my phone twice a day because I use wi-fi a lot,I still don't worry or something.
I have this habit of doing clean install. No mistake with that.
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I have this habit of doing clean install. No mistake with that.
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1% every three minute. I think its normal.
Charge to 100% and use normally till 5% and then post the screenshot of battery stats here.
Iqbal Ansari said:
1% every three minute. I think its normal.
Charge to 100% and use normally till 5% and then post the screenshot of battery stats here.
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With normal usage it is more than 10 hours at 77%. May be it's normal but it last more than that on 4.1.2
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With normal usage it is more than 10 hours at 77%. May be it's normal but it last more than that on 4.1.2
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It is normal battery drain.
Battery on 4.3 is almost same as 4.1. What else do you expect its a quad core phone.
Iqbal Ansari said:
It is normal battery drain.
Battery on 4.3 is almost same as 4.1. What else do you expect its a quad core phone.
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If I browse the internet non-stop from 100% batttery then, after around 3 hours the battery is 20-30%. Is this also normal.
Maybe your battery is damaged ...
otherwise you can check for wakelocks using Better Battery Stats:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Good luck
benzai said:
Maybe your battery is damaged ...
otherwise you can check for wakelocks using Better Battery Stats:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Good luck
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This is funny! You mean to say that the upgrade to android 4.3 has damaged my battery? The battery is not even 1 month old as I mentioned in the first post. The battery is very good on android 4.1.2...... As I mentioned in the first post, there is no battery drain when the screen is off. Even after 24 hours the battery is 99% from 100% with screen off. Why should I checked for wakelocks when the battery is fine on screen off? I did checked it to be sure but no wakelocks. The battery problem is when I use the phone, the battery is draining abnormally when the phone is used. Anyway thanks for your reply.
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This is funny! You mean to say that the upgrade to android 4.3 has damaged my battery? The battery is not even 1 month old as I mentioned in the first post. The battery is very good on android 4.1.2...... As I mentioned in the first post, there is no battery drain when the screen is off. Even after 24 hours the battery is 99% from 100% with screen off. Why should I checked for wakelocks when the battery is fine on screen off? I did checked it to be sure but no wakelocks. The battery problem is when I use the phone, the battery is draining abnormally when the phone is used.
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Using BetterBatteryStats will nevertheless help you to find out which process is consuming your battery…
Yes, 4.3 upgrade downgraded my battery life about 20% when I am using my phone. On idle it is better about 10-20% also compared with 4.1.2. It is useless to do factory resets or other nonsense. Just it is as is.
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Yes, 4.3 upgrade downgraded my battery life about 20% when I am using my phone. On idle it is better about 10-20% also compared with 4.1.2. It is useless to do factory resets or other nonsense. Just it is as is.
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You are right! There is no use resetting the phone. It won't improve your battery's performance. I think it's a bug of android 4.3.
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I think you need to try someone else's battery in your phone to see if you have the same problem then
try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50441083#post50441083
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I remember my 4.1.2 had the same battery consumption and with 4.3 it remained unchanged(if not better). I think you just gonna get used to that .
Use your phone and stop thinking and worrying about battery. Though I charge my phone twice a day because I use wi-fi a lot,I still don't worry or something.
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Even with wifi on you can use the phone the all day
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My battery is draining too fast after upgrading to android 4.3. Even only on 2g there is 1% decrease in battery almost after every 3 minutes. But with screen off it will remain almost at 99% after even 12 hours or more. But when I start using the phone for something like even navigating through the settings the battery drops 1% every 3 minutes or even less. My handset is about a month old. I am from India and running the ML4 android 4.3 recently released by Samsung. There is no wakelock when the screen is asleep. The phone screen consumes between 60 to 90% of the battery or more. I factory reset it thrice since the update but with no effect. I am running the 4.3 update for about 3 weeks now. I also installed Greenify, battery doctor, juice defender etc to save battery but there is no improvement. I installed the same apps that I installed on the 4.1.2 firmware but the battery is draining quite faster in the 4.3 version. I also freeze almost all bloatware using Titanium backup and even uninstalled some like Google Books etc. but no use. I don't use wifi or wifi hotspot at all. I rarely use bluetooth. GPS, location, etc off. I even freeze Google Play store, Google play services and Google services framework. No multi window, no smart stay, no s voice, no ripple effect, no live wallpaper, etc everything off but still the same. If there is anyone facing this issue and has already found the solution, please help me out.
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Okey So Firstly I rule Out Few Assumptions Made By Some Members(No Offense):
1) As thadoukuki said battery Drains only while using the phone and not wen its idle that means its not a wakelock for sure.
2)Secondly as the handset n battery ofcourse, are just a month old i dont even assume it to be damaged(Trust Sammy)
3)Thirdly 1% / 3Mins is quite normal on extensive Usage but as you say its just while navigating around settings etc. den i assume its a bit high.
4) Now betterbatterystats is good to identify what consumes your battery but ive never been a fan of that actually.
SO according to me try to do some trial n error work .
Instead of Freezing apps through TB u can use Greenify Donate to greenify system apps and user apps as well. It Does same job as TB freeze but without that extra hassle.
Secondly Choose a kernel that you think is battery friendly for you like the one which gives you peace of mind(Oh Yeah Battery's Draining Slow!!)
for me i'd go for Boeffla or Googymax
Choose a battery friendly Governer for ur CPU(For me Boeffla kernel with Archi_ultra_power_save governer gives great results)
Check if CPU Touch boost is Enabled in Kernel Settings coz Touch Boost gave me good performance and responsiveness but even i had observed that battery used to drain faster with it.
Battery friendly Rom with few Tweaks by xda members is always better for me over Stock( ArchiDroid Is the Rom ive ever Used){Personal Opinion}
Ppl Say undervolting helps .....hmm maybe ive never Done it but as you are very cautious about battery you may try it (on your own Risk)
Lets see if that Helps
And Lastly i never Observed much Change in Battery drain pattern wen Coming from 4.1.2 to 4.3 so thats not really true.
Turn off location services
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Read d first post !!
cais232 said:
Turn off location services
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AS already stated in the first post location is OFF . So he's Already taken care of it !!!
Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Install a battery app like GSAM and you can see what is using it, or things that may be causing wake locks.
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Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Try a factory reset. Factory reset mostly fixes such issues of wakelocks.
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Try a factory reset. Factory reset mostly fixes such issues of wakelocks.
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Tried that and wiped the cache partition. No luck. I'm pretty sure it's poor optimization on Nougat. Hopefully Google will fix it.
toledodj said:
Tried that and wiped the cache partition. No luck. I'm pretty sure it's poor optimization on Nougat. Hopefully Google will fix it.
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Even i was on stock Nougat for a long time...but i didnt face such issues yet. Infact i think Nougat optimizes better than Marshmallow. As battery backup has substantially increased...a bit.
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Even i was on stock Nougat for a long time...but i didnt face such issues yet. Infact i think Nougat optimizes better than Marshmallow. As battery backup has substantially increased...a bit.
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Oh well, maybe the next update will make it better
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Oh well, maybe the next update will make it better
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Well it may also depend on ur battery life..not all phones work the same as they must .
I seriously thought that such a big battery and the optimization that I 've witnessed on many other Huawei devices would mean that I would get better battery life.... How to fix this people.... Help!
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I seriously thought that such a big battery and the optimization that I 've witnessed on many other Huawei devices would mean that I would get better battery life.... How to fix this people.... Help!
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A little info, please. What is that you want to fix?
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A little info, please. What is that you want to fix?
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I have a problem with battery life on Nexus 6p running Android Nougat 7.1.1..... How t9 optimize my battery for better SoT and how to fix the battery drain?
It drains in such a short time.... I would've sent you some screenshots but it says network error...
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I have a problem with battery life on Nexus 6p running Android Nougat 7.1.1..... How t9 optimize my battery for better SoT and how to fix the battery drain?
It drains in such a short time.... I would've sent you some screenshots but it says network error...
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Private messages are not for chats, more so if it concerns others too, if it can help others.
You can write thenumbers that bother you, and we then can say if those are bad or not.
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Private messages are not for chats, more so if it concerns others too, if it can help others.
You can write thenumbers that bother you, and we then can say if those are bad or not.
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I get 4 hrs of SOT
Average use daily is checking e-mails - checking Facebook and Twitter - Youtube and Music streaming - no games.... Sometimes, it drains without even doing that and I barely pass a day without charging it.....
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The Screen on time is inconsistent as it might be just 2 hrs or 3 hrs and it would be consumed completely!
Is there a ROM or an app or anything that can help me get better SOT?
Thanks and apologies for the message, I now know that it was unnecessary.
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I get 4 hrs of SOT
Average use daily is checking e-mails - checking Facebook and Twitter - Youtube and Music streaming - no games.... Sometimes, it drains without even doing that and I barely pass a day without charging it.....
PS:
The Screen on time is inconsistent as it might be just 2 hrs or 3 hrs and it would be consumed completely!
Is there a ROM or an app or anything that can help me get better SOT?
Thanks and apologies for the message, I now know that it was unnecessary.
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As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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ultyrunner said:
As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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Okay.... I'll install it right now.... Thanks and would get back with some better results, I hope!
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ultyrunner said:
As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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57.2% of the battery used by combined app CPU
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Sulieman 91 said:
Okay.... I'll install it right now.... Thanks and would get back with some better results, I hope!
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57.2% of the battery used by combined app CPU
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12.7% per hour of use (that's what the GSAM says)
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12.7% per hour of use (that's what the GSAM says)
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Make sure you let it run for a couple full cycles and you have to read it correctly. You can't get useful stats the minute you install it because it needs to run through full cycles while charging and unplugged, as it can only provide information for the time it's been installed. The longer you run it, the more accurate it is. Second, the App Usage stat is a percentage of the percentage of battery used. So if your battery is at 70% when you look at app usage and it says those things used 57% of the battery, that's 57% of the 30% used to that point.
You also need to look at the Held Awake stats because that will tell you what, if any, processes are keeping your phone awake and thus contributing to drain.
I have found that the system in Nougat does tend to use more battery than it did in MM. However, doze implementation is better and it deep sleeps more and does a better job of saving battery. In fact since Nougat, I've stopped using Greenify because it actually seemed to make my battery worse. Since I've been on Nougat I get well over a day on a charge with about 5-5:30 SoT. However, battery also comes down to what ROM and kernel you use and how much you do processor and screen intensive tasks. Music streaming doesn't tend to use much battery, but if you spend a lot of time web surfing, Youtube and games, you'll cook your battery no matter what. If you use the Facebook app, nothing you can do will help as it's a dreadful battery suck.
Here are the numbers provided by the GSam App
Are these numbers good or bad?
The average use gets me through the day but if I use it heavily, it would last 3hrs max.
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