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I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
Ehhh why not...first one is of the Washington monument here in DC,
The second one is of my almost 3 year old insisting she ride her tricycle uphill to her auntie's house on the left (yes, she knows where the house is...but is still struggling with that pedal/steer combo... give her a break, some of you still get left and right confused!)
Not bad, looks quite nice
DTNT said:
I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
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Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
Best picture? Come on, we all know that htc have no idea about cameras.
Actually...I'm happy with the [outdoor] performance with this camera. I mean occasionally you'll get a jewel of (an indoor) picture...heck, sometimes with my 10meg camera I'll be disappointed...and yes, some pictures do come out somewhat discolored outside, but I just simply use a photo editing prigram to fix the colors and I'm all set. Remember, you bought:
1. A phone
2. Web browser
3. Digital assistant
4. Mp3 player
5. Camera...
not the other way around.
I have taken 3 pictures that i think is the best i can get out of my HD:
the first one of my mom's dog:
the second one the first flowers:
and the last one a pumpkin from halloween:
I've been this close to going back to a Sony Ericsson because of the camera... Only the video playback (still not as good as it should be) on the large screen keeps me happy
Here's my two cents
The black Sea
Countryside
Beach
River Terek
Although I'm not happy with the HD camera performance I use it occasionally as a back up camera. It's not really practical to carry around a DSLR all the time.
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Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
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I made a test on My SE Xperia X1 (made by HTC and with HTC hardware camera) and I think that HTC's bad quality pictures is more software related than hardware related...
The rom I use has 2 camera application: the SE Xperia one and the HTC Rhodium one
Here is the picture taken with HTC app:
Here is the picture taken with the SE app:
>My wonder came after the shot done during my work, it was indoor and i shot a bottle, I think very good one picture;
>My mother owns SE K800, but I cannot compare pix, mine is better
>Anyways A+ to HTC for such camera (photo!), after Artemis's camera this one is earth and heaven.
Please continue attach quality pix by HD
pic is attached!
My abstract photo
This was taken through the windscreen of a van while moving.
The camera still's are not too bad on the HD but the video recording is utter junk, the original diamond take's far better video.
Here are my noob shots
...wish the car was mine though
Hello, I know that there are hundreds of you who have coreplayer, an HD2, and another Windows Mobile phone.
Can some of you post videos of coreplaying on action on both the HD2 and another phone?
I would prefer a simultaneous comparison on the same footage being played roughly at the same time (volume can be muted).
I would prefer a comparison between a 4 inch screen to a 3 inch screen.
Please please please post a video! It would be awesome and I need it to make a certain life changing decision!!!!!
What's the point? Coreplayer works better on the hd2 than on any other (except maybe that couple of phones for which it has hardware acceleration) thanks to the 1ghz cpu. Not much more to say...
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What's the point? Coreplayer works better on the hd2 than on any other (except maybe that couple of phones for which it has hardware acceleration) thanks to the 1ghz cpu. Not much more to say...
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I want to see clearness and screen size, and to see if the size is actually worth it. Just saying that it is clear and big does no justice. Video representation is the best method to show you how big an object in a film really is.
People on the Xperia X1 board used to say that the screen was very big, and many enjoyed the video experience but there was no actual comparison to prove to naive people like me that 3 inches is utterly useless.
I agree with kilrah... works better than it did on my nokia e71 and my htc touch pro2
video comparison is moot, its the same program with the same features, on a faster phone with a bigger screen
What do you like and hate about your E71?
And I still want to see a video comparison, nonetheless.
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People on the Xperia X1 board used to say that the screen was very big, and many enjoyed the video experience but there was no actual comparison to prove to naive people like me that 3 inches is utterly useless.
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Tell me why the 3 inch screen is useless?? I have crystal clear images and video on my x1... is a great little phone for vid... however the hd2 is much better in terms of size... same clarity and quality, just bigger...
So you hope to see a difference in playing a video on 2 phones with different screen sizes on a video of both? Good luck.
I could film my 37 inch tv and send you the video, it wouldn't look different to you than if I did it with my 2.8 inch phone.
Go in a store that has phones on display, and compare yourself in real life. It's the only way to get an accurate idea.
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So you hope to see a difference in playing a video on 2 phones with different screen sizes on a video of both? Good luck.
I could film my 37 inch tv and send you the video, it wouldn't look different to you than if I did it with my 2.8 inch phone.
Go in a store that has phones on display, and compare yourself in real life. It's the only way to get an accurate idea.
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They don't have HD2 on display in America. Look at where I am from.
I got to compare my brother's HTC Touch Pro2 to my Xperia X1 and learned that even 3.5 inch screen is not good enough for me to watch a movie on the plane. And guess what, damn it, before I get to compare the damn devices, I was 100% certain that the 3.5 inch display would be enough for me.
Nope.
Even my brother said that the screen size for video playback was awesome. Nope, not for me. But I do enjoy watching movies on my laptop, I just want to know what the minimal size for me is.
So.......I wish I could have the damn HD2 so that I can compare to the Touch Pro2 and Xperia...but no, it's not in America....yet...and besides that, damn it, once the HD2 hit T-mobile stores, there probably won't be any video to compare to other phones, and if there is, the videos are different.
I am looking for details in film, because when I watch a movie on the go, I still enjoy the little details in the background. The little easter eggs, and stuff that you are meant to see but not on the first screening. A big but minimalistic screen is vital for such details.
If I see a basketball of the same color and shade on the basketball court because it is from the same film, I can compare that in-motion footage on two different screens. I can see if a 4.1 inch is perfect for such details, because I already have experience with 3.5 inch screens with actual video playback. And with the implication that I have experienced testing 3.5 inch screen, you should know that if I see two same objects, I can roughly imagine myself seeing the actual visual representation in real life. I am not just talking about comparing a windows icon to an apple shortcut icon. Nope, if I compare a windows icon, I must compare it to the same windows icon.
If I compare films I must compare the same films at roughly the same moment.
This is a true comparison of visuals.
And your TV argument is pointless; the contrast in size is way too apparent. And guess what, I can test that on my own.
I can no longer just listen to what people have to say about the devices, for example--my brother or the person who said that 3 inch screens are awesome. A truly unbiased review does not praise an object, but it does compare it to relevant ones.
The HD2 screen is so big that the video experience is awesome, because this fits in the reviewer's criteria. If the review simply states that the HD2 screen is bigger than the Xperia or Touch Pro2, there is no preference in the criteria. But if one gives a careful visual comparison, he can let the beholder make the decision (not the reviewer himself).
I feel like some of you are implying that I am stupid, but I wish you could understand my reasons.
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I wish you could understand my reasons.
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And I wish you would understand why even if someone shot a video of 2 devices next to each other it wouldn't do any justice to how it actually looks like.
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I am looking for details in film, because when I watch a movie on the go, I still enjoy the little details in the background. The little easter eggs, and stuff that you are meant to see but not on the first screening.
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A compressed youtube video of the 2 will just show some half blurry screens on which you can't see anything of the little details that interest you, even if they were actually there. All you'll be able to see is that the HD2's screen is bigger, but you already know that.
Apparently we can say all we can, you seem to not have the same expectations than most of us if you were disappointed following the advice you were given with the X1. So even if we say that properly encoded video looks extremely crisp on the HD2 you'll have to see for yourself on the real thing. So wait until it hits the store, take your current phone with a short clip, go there, grab an HD2 on display, send the clip to the HD2 via bluetooth, with a coreplayer cab if needed, and do your test... that's what I did with my usual programs, spent 2 hours at the store doing what I usually do on my phone on the HD2 before buying it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122
The "modded video" in the first post is a good example of good quality video for the hd2, best played with the built-in player.
Hey dudes,
Everyone's been asking me to show off some of the EVO's camera's features. Well, we've all seen that. So, instead, I've taken a ton of photos and tried to grab everyone on Flickr's EVO 4G photos and consolidate them all into one group, thus the HTC EVO 4G Flickr pool - view it over here.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/evo4g/pool/
And, if you're interested in some photos taken with some tweaked settings in broad daylight - I took a set at the boardwalk today of my friends. Here it is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oxeneers/sets/72157624193848502/
What do you think? Add your photos to the HTC EVO 4G pool if you've taken some good ones WITH or OF the device!
Oh, also, a great thing to note is how EPIC the geotagging is on this device. If you're a huge geotag buff like I am, this is HTC's quickest geotag lock on any device. Maybe that's because of the A-GPS working super well, or maybe HTC has tweaked their software to grab a lock much quicker, and notify you of so on the screen. Anyone else?
The quality doesn't look very good, especially when it comes to shadows. Lots of artifacts in general.
Here for example
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oxeneers/4665183227/sizes/o/in/[email protected]/
They should focus on improving image quality and not the number of megapixels the camera has
God this is beat like a dead horse in every forum for every "phone with a camera"... picture quality will not (in the foreseeable future) be anywhere near a point and shoot or DSLR. It just won't. Those with expectations of such are setting themselves up for a big let down with every new release.
To the OP, thanks for the great pool of photos and taking the time to compile them. Great Work!
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God this is beat like a dead horse in every forum for every "phone with a camera"... picture quality will not (in the foreseeable future) be anywhere near a point and shoot or DSLR. It just won't. Those with expectations of such are setting themselves up for a big let down with every new release.
To the OP, thanks for the great pool of photos and taking the time to compile them. Great Work!
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I'm not expecting the quality of a modern point and shoot, i'd settle for the quality of one that's 5 years old. I just want some freaking clarity, they look fine small, but when you look at them at large resolutions it looks like a watercolor.
Can someone do a video comparrison on the vibrant, between HD video capture to the 16gb built-in ram and HD video capture to, say, a Class 4 Micro SDHC card?
I just want to see if it is consistent, or if the video quality will degrade\appear less with the use of the slower media?
I would greatly appreciate it, if video could be posted to youtube or someone could attach the actual raw footage to a reply on this thread... but if not, at least a comparrison...
I have asked this question, 2 days ago, on another forum, and as of yet, have not received an answer...
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I'm uploading two short videos now. Both are shot at 1280x720 resolution. Both links are HD so I would be on a desktop (and I would also pause it at the start to let it fully download before playing). I have to say neither look very impressive. I'm sure others who know more could do better. Also, I saw you posted this thread TWICE, AFTER I decided to help (and in the Development section).
Next time if you do that, don't expect any help.... please do not be that guy.... if you are, just go to another forum.
Internal Memory
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Yeah...not real impressed by either one but thanks for taking the time!
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I'm uploading two short videos now. Both are shot at 1280x720 resolution. Both links are HD so I would be on a desktop (and I would also pause it at the start to let it fully download before playing). I have to say neither look very impressive. I'm sure others who know more could do better. Also, I saw you posted this thread TWICE, AFTER I decided to help (and in the Development section).
Next time if you do that, don't expect any help.... please do not be that guy.... if you are, just go to another forum.
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1000x thanks to you....for doing this for me...
No, the video is not stellar, in the low light... but it does look the same which is awesome...
I do apologize for posting twice... I posted this question on androidcentral's forums... and it sat there for 2 days..
SO I posted it in the developement forum (out of ignorance) and was told that it should be over here... so I responded hoping a mod would move it over here... nothing happened so I posted it in here...
Sorry for the confusion...
I've had pretty good results with an outdoor shoot. I mean its better to catch my 4year old and 11month playing on something that isn't the greatest vs loose catching it at all.
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Yeah...not real impressed by either one but thanks for taking the time!
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Compare this video to the EVO's and you will truly understand the commentyou made lol...
camit34 said:
Yeah...not real impressed by either one but thanks for taking the time!
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I think HD video from a phone is pretty impressive any day of the week.
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I think HD video from a phone is pretty impressive any day of the week.
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Same here. I love that I can even capture HD video footage from my phone, yet alone I think every video I have shot so far looks amazing to me.
I have ZERO complaints. I mean come on, like I said, we are capturing high definition video from our phone....
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I think HD video from a phone is pretty impressive any day of the week.
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ya, same here that video is freaking awesome for a mobile phone camera.
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I'm uploading two short videos now. Both are shot at 1280x720 resolution. I have to say neither look very impressive.
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What exactly is unimpressive about it? What were you expecting? I couldn't see a difference between either; and I thought both were excellent - for a phone! I haven't seen dedicated HD camcorders, but given that they are typically $500+ with hardware dedicated for video shooting, I'd say that this is extremely impressive. But even just as videos I think they are very very good.
Can you provide a link to something that you do find impressive? I'm not being dismissive or facetious, just wanted to know what the standard is. Thanks.
is it jst me or does the inernal memory video look a little brighter then the sd one...sd one looks a little bluer...both look great tho..jst commenting on any differences
^ I've watched both side by side and it could be my monitor not being great, but it was hard to tell much of a difference. I wish I spent a little more effort on those videos, but they work okay i suppose. Perhaps someone else will do more of a color test of sorts....
wow, those look incredible for a cell phone. Keep in mind that 720 is just a resolution, there is much more goes into video than just the resolution. For instance bit rate, and the sensors used to capture the video.
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is it jst me or does the inernal memory video look a little brighter then the sd one...sd one looks a little bluer...both look great tho..jst commenting on any differences
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Agree.....
Some people are never satisfied imo....I shot a video of my dads turtle eating on some tomato and I was blown away by the video quality that a PHONE can provide..I will try to upload the video and share with guys.
I can post a link but if your interested in seeing it..pm me
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Hey XDAers!
I noticed that a lot of people were interested in photography with the Sony Xperia Z1. I'm a hobby photographer and a couple of people seem to appreciate my photography with it.
That's why I decided to share this with you:
A tutorial about the BASICS of your Sony camera phone
A tutorial about the more ADVANCED features
I hope you guys find this useful!
Happy snapping; try something different and creative; keep checking out that blog for more (general) photography tips and most importantly: have fun!
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Hey XDAers!
I noticed that a lot of people were interested in photography with the Sony Xperia Z1. I'm a hobby photographer and a couple of people seem to appreciate my photography with it.
That's why I decided to share this with you:
A tutorial about the BASICS of your Sony camera phone
A tutorial about the more ADVANCED features
I hope you guys find this useful!
Happy snapping; try something different and creative; keep checking out that blog for more (general) photography tips and most importantly: have fun!
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Thanks mate there's very good info in this article. Please make some videos about it.[emoji4]
All the best,
AB
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Thanks mate there's very good info in this article. Please make some videos about it.[emoji4]
All the best,
AB
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Hey,
Thanks for the feedback!
I was thinking about making a video too, but I don't have a decent microphone. I'll see how it goes
Cheers!
hi, good tutorials
i'm also a hobby photographer and like taking photos and playing around with the z1c camera. i'm also curious what this cam will be capable of with Android 5 and raw mode
btw i mostly shoot with 3mp, the pictures are very very crispy and sharp, a hell of a difference
awesome
Thank you very much for the guide. I am not a guy who likes n comments on threads, but for your this guide ill like you much as possible.
I was desperate on this camera, but just now got to know about it. Thanks alot.:good::good:
Cool bro, nice article, keep it like that.
Lool .
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Thanks much, was looking for something like this for a long time
Thank you very much sir. I like it, easy to get it, in fact I've learn very much from it. hope to see more from you sir:thumbup:
Really nice article, up to mark regarding the current accessible features of z1 (there still were 1 or 2 things i learned, )...
Will you update your blog when we get 5.0 update?
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Really nice article, up to mark regarding the current accessible features of z1 (there still were 1 or 2 things i learned, )...
Will you update your blog when we get 5.0 update?
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You can count on it!
I'll do so as soon as the update goes live. It's what I'm most excited about anyway, out of everything from Android 5.0 Lollipop
Oh and thanks everyone for the kind words! I did not expect this tutorial to be so interesting for people. I might seriously have to start doing a YouTube tutorial soon (after all, I prefer watching videos to reading as well).
I am following your photos since you first posted in the other thread - also following you on Flickr. I saw this thread when you posted it, but I was too sleepy...
Really nice tutorial, I am using the Z1 camera to take photos and I love its features. It is really a beast! I'm posting them on my Flickr.
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Hey XDAers!
I noticed that a lot of people were interested in photography with the Sony Xperia Z1. I'm a hobby photographer and a couple of people seem to appreciate my photography with it.
That's why I decided to share this with you:
A tutorial about the BASICS of your Sony camera phone
A tutorial about the more ADVANCED features
I hope you guys find this useful!
Happy snapping; try something different and creative; keep checking out that blog for more (general) photography tips and most importantly: have fun!
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Thanks man I appreciate your effort!
Nice tutorial. I wonder, does anybody tried SONY lenses? The ones which connect via NFC
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Sindigo said:
Nice tutorial. I wonder, does anybody tried SONY lenses? The ones which connect via NFC
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Those Sony Lenses (QX10 or QX100, or the newer variants of which I forgot the model names) are separate cameras meaning that they have their own sensor and software.
It's therefore unrelated to the Xperia Z1's camera and algorithms of course. I'm not sure what you're asking about actually, with these lenses. You can always find people who have tried the lenses (or rather cameras) via Google, to see test shots for example. Again, they're unrelated to the device they're used with anyway
Thank you for all the effort
Great articles Herman, you've clearly spent a great deal of time and effort - thank you for that.
My one gripe with the camera is the spot metering. It would be so good if you could touch the screen to say "meter on this" rather than in the centre. A bit like the touch focus. I guess you'd need some setting to say what to do if the user touched an area on the screen (meter or focus or both).
I previously asked Sony to tell me what was the difference between spot and center metering and they gave me the usual answer - please try repairing your firmware - which was pretty lame.
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Great articles Herman, you've clearly spent a great deal of time and effort - thank you for that.
My one gripe with the camera is the spot metering. It would be so good if you could touch the screen to say "meter on this" rather than in the centre. A bit like the touch focus. I guess you'd need some setting to say what to do if the user touched an area on the screen (meter or focus or both).
I previously asked Sony to tell me what was the difference between spot and center metering and they gave me the usual answer - please try repairing your firmware - which was pretty lame.
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That's actually a hilarious reply from Sony, in my eyes. Kind of reminds me of the high 10 guy meme.
Thanks for liking the articles! Right now I feel like I've missed a couple of things however, like a more elaborate explanation on Night Mode versus other modes. On your issue: I'm more concerned with other issues like how you have to re-set the ISO after choosing a scene mode or not being able to set shutter speed or shoot in RAW, rather than the metering mode. It is of course a really useful feature to have, but it's a minor one compared to these others, in my opinion.
If I were taking a guess about the spot and center metering is that it's the same as with my canon dslr. Only Sony left out an important keyword that describes it nicely : center WEIGHTED. Meaning that as opposed to average metering which takes the average of the whole frame it will rather focus on a circular section in the center section of the frame. Maybe somewhere there is a tech spec that can disclose how big an area that circle takes. Spot should do what it said. Takes a reading of the object under the meter area which can be the middle of the frame.
On a decent camera you would do a spot meter on the object, lock your exposure and then reframe your shot, focus and take the pic
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Thx man
That helped aloe
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That's actually a hilarious reply from Sony, in my eyes. Kind of reminds me of the high 10 guy meme.
Thanks for liking the articles! Right now I feel like I've missed a couple of things however, like a more elaborate explanation on Night Mode versus other modes.[/I].
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I'm quite frustrated taking photos near sunset, when the lighting is more favorable, because all of the light sources in the image create long streaks of flaring (as in the sample)
Is there something wrong with my camera?
I've tried adjusting EV, and scene modes, but the flaring is still there.
Any ideas?