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Storage memory is critically low

I'm getting that message.
The funny thing is, I haven't added anything to storage memory in a while. I got the phone a few weeks ago and installed everything I needed then - there was around 6MB remaining of storage.
However, whilst I'm driving today, I get an SMS and have a look and it shows me this critically low warning. I got home and tried to delete all my SMS but the phone decided to crash. After rebooting it didn't load all the today plugins properly, so I decided to reboot using SPB Pocketplus's safemode. I press the safemode option during boot and it says it will boot in safe mode but all it does is reset itself again and start in normal mode.
When it starts in normal mode it shows the critically low warning and freezes - I can't close the warning or do anything about it.
Does anyone know what could have caused this all of a sudden? Considering I had several MB free earlier today and haven't added anything to it myself... Also, what on earth can I do to fix this problem? It says to remove some programs but I can't when the device isn't responding or going into safemode...

Do a search for big files - also check your documents in case you've inadvertently recorded a lot of nothing (as I've done in the past) - also I believe temp internet files and remote desktop caching can take up quite a bit.

numanoids said:
Do a search for big files - also check your documents in case you've inadvertently recorded a lot of nothing (as I've done in the past)
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At the time it was impossible to search for any files - the device wasn't responding at all once it had booted up. However, I managed to connect it to my PC and access it remotely - even though the device's GUI wasn't responding and I had indeed recorded a load of nothing when it had been woken in my pocket by the SMS. Needless to say that button is now disabled.
Thanks for the reply, it's sorted now. Well, as sorted as you can get with the universal's minescule amount of memory

If you spend a lot of time surfing the net, your cache will fill up the space. Try to flush the cache and search for big files too. You should use SKTOOLS, is the best.

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Daft question but where is the cache info stored. I can find may way around but I am not that technical. I am having the memory problem too. I have nothing on my device but its full. I have a map program on the card and thats it.

To clear your PIE cache, open PIE go to the menu and selct tools, options and then select the memory tab and click the delete files button. It will probably take a while. A easier way to manage this cache, in my opinion, is to purchase and install SKTools(a fantasic app for many uses) and run the quick clean program. I have the quick clean app mapped to a keyboard combo (using freeware PQZII) so it's very easy to free up memory.

[REQ][MOD] SMS app drops msgs on 'low memory'

It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.

mamoulian666 said:
It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.
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Can the Nexus One actually run out of memory to receive a mere SMS? :/ Has this ever happened to you before or is this just a hypothetical question/request?

I don't think he would talk so specifically about it in detail if he was just making it up. I've lost an sms before too.
I was under the warning limit, but between 10mb and 20mb free, and my phone decided to tell me there wasn't enough room on the phone when an sms came in and that's that. No indication as to whom it was from, and definitely no way to get it again.

Yeap, it definitely does this. I've had it happen a few times and very annoying it is too. The message never gets received but shows as delivered at the other end.

Yes it has happened to me several times since having the N1, and just a few days ago on 2.2. Sometimes it's been 'my fault' because I've ignored the 'low on memory' notification, sometimes it's been the first I've heard of it - by then it's too late.
Either way, just dropping the message like that is not good :-/
Oh, and no, I don't think I've ever *actually* run out of memory, I've seen that 'low memory' warning appear but still have just under 10mb free.
So I think the SMS-receiving-code is being overly cautious/strict.

+1 for some workaround for this situation, when I went from cyan ext3 to froyo stock and trying fit everything on I did lose a few texts, which I had no idea where they were from.

what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?

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what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?
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Low internal storage space. The SMS's are not saved in ram you know? Install too many applications and you run out of internal storage space.

So can we clarify if this is low MEMORY or low STORAGE being as the two are completely different?
I've had missing messages so this may explain it?

It is when you have low STORAGE. Internal storage to be precise. Would be nice if you could have SMS going to mem-card. But yes, I have had the same issue in the past. And there is no way to retrieve the 'delivered' message that I know of. Very annoying.

Yes, low storage.
Install a load of stuff... Google Earth and Fennec beta should do it, and you'll get the warning. But it's a bit over-sensitive, you could still have 10mb or so left.
There's an issue for this on the official tracker:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4991
doesn't look like it'll be looked at in a hurry though as there's not very many stars... so I hope a mod might be possible until G gets around to it?
(if you want to register your interest in the issue just star it, no need to comment with a 'me too' unless you're adding some info)
Edit: please keep 'store messages on SD card' to another thread... that is a big job, and it's not like we would actually have problems storing one 250-character message when we've got 10mb of space. The fix is for it to ignore that warning.

IDEA, install a program that when internal mem is detected as below the threshold where the system will rej, and overwride the default messaging and take hold of the message itself (and presumably SD it)

a very irratating bug indeed.. i have missed countless sms cause i have tonz of apps installed on an unrooted fone; leading to low internal storage RAM and thus getting this error... FROYO isnt much of a help with the option to put apps to SD since the apps have to integrate that feature and 95% of apps currently in the marked dont have that feature YET.. even GOOGLE Earth (25mb <- WAAA so big!!!) ..

I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum

thelucster said:
I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum
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No, don't add a COMMENT, just add a STAR. 'Me too' comments get emailed to everyone and are annoying. STARs register interest. Thanks!
So is it possible to fix this with a mod? Is it even in the SMS app or is it some other code that handles receiving the message?

try this post for altering your low space threshold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877793

I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
One option could be an app for when the phone hits low storage, to put the phone in air plane mode?
This would prevent ANY sms from being rejected until you delete space, and take the phone out of air plane mode.

Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.

GldRush98 said:
I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
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It is not that simple. AFAIK sms/mms are stored in the sqlite database. Which needs some maneuver space to operate normally. In fact, android SQLiteOpenHelper under certain threshold will open the database only in the readonly mode. Which seems to be happening here.
The pragmatic solution would be to "tweak" the free space display and show the real size minus some 30mb "reserve". So, the user would see "0 bytes left" and would not complain. Better still - stop receiving messages and signal "memory full" to the Short Message Service Center. Adding nagging notifications to the user. Seems like unfinished work by google.

krabman said:
Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.
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The SD way would be a straight road to hell, since all the data can "disappear" from under your arse at any random moment.
It's enough just to plug-in the USB cable or simply pop-out the card (easily doable on many models).
Even worse: someone can easily delete anything on the card since it is a stupid FAT32 with no permissions whatsoever. O just insert different SD card from the different phone. It is far from trivial to define what should the apps do in this case.

Phone is low on space

I have 1.84gb on the sdcard and 9.17gb internal and 191mb application space. No way am i even close to running out of space.
I have one of the earlier versions of Lag Fix installed, and im also rooted. can anyone help?

What makes you think you are "running out of space"? Are you getting an error message of some sort?

Yes i am. It wont let me install anyting and its not syncing gmail and im not getting text messeges.

Just FYI alot of times questions can be answered if you use the search button.
i just asnwered this question in the Q&A forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=747
And that was answered in a previous thread by me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752471&highlight=Database+Storage+Low&page=2
After deleting the bloated Contacts i haven't gotten the error (i was sure to export the list from Google prior to deleting it) Also removing the Facebook Apps ability to sync and only leaving stock brought back the Contacts facebook updates.
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thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.

Oskiee said:
thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.
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Can you use ADB or ShootMe to take screen shots of the error message then?

i dont have nither installed, so no. it wont let me install anything. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low".

Lol! I am getting the same message about space getting low. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low. "
I also have lag fix applied and guess how much app space I have remaining?
That's right, 191MB.
It is clearly referring to app space and not SD storage.
Not sure what to do.
sent from my Vibrant.

Don't some of the lag fixes cause this?

Don't use such a large container for the loopback filesystem. The phone will show that message when that partition drops to about 300mb free iirc. The versions that used 1gb seem to avoid this issue, it's when they tried to go to 1.5gb or so that it started up.
Or use a partition on the external sd and don't have the problem.
There's also the new voodoo lag fix that should be out soon, we hope. That will fix it properly and remove the busted rfs file system entirely.

This happen to me when installing a lag fix, back your files then enter.recovery delete all personal data after restore your apps but dont install the lag fix.
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[Q] False "Storage space running out" notification

I'm not rooted, completely stock 4.1.1.
I have a persistent "Storage space running out, some system functions may not work" notification, even though the storage settings page (pics 1-2) says I have plenty of space in both my internal storage and SD card. When I go to the manage apps page (3rd pic), though, it gives a different story, which is weird. I also can't download or update apps.
I did some searching and apparently this problem has happened to other people on other phones, particularly samsungs it seems like.
One person suggested using the DiskUsage app to find out what's taking up space. I tried to download it, and it said I had insufficient storage available, even though it's a 155 kb application. I deleted Skype, which is ~24 MB, and I still couldn't download the app because of "insufficient storage." Restarting the phone did nothing.
It seems like this has been happening on and off for a while, but I don't think I've tried to install any new apps recently and I've just ignored the failed updates. I can't remember exactly when it started, or anything I might have done differently around that time.
Any ideas?

That can happen when there's junk in your cache partition as well.. like rogue .apk's. I'd try to clean your cache partition first.

So I hooked it up to my computer and manually went through folders to find out where the space was being taken up. Turns out it was my podcast app (Acast). There was a gig or so of podcasts saved on the internal storage that didn't show up as being related to apps or anything.

Continually "insufficient storage"

I have a rooted S5 w/ 16GB of internal storage, but I'm rarely able to update/download new apps. I have to scrounge for apps to delete for a half hour just to get it to let me download a new app or update an app. I have moved just about all the apps I can to the SD card (32GB, less than half used).
In the storage screen it says I have used 14.88GB in apps, and <20MB in everything else with "Free space" around 400-500MB. I usually have to get it to mid 500s before it will let me do anything on it. To make matters worse, somehow the apps I uninstall keep reinstalling themselves.
My problem seems to be this big "Applications" thing - which isn't right. I have some large apps, but they keep all their data on the SD card (like podcasts with PocketCasts). On my applications manager, from top down in size - facebook @ 190MB, google play services at 156MB, google app at 134MB... dropping off fairly quickly after that, so no way its 15GB worth.
What am I missing? Do others constantly have this problem? It is getting ridiculous! No reason that I can see that there should be a big bunch of stuff that is counted as used when it isn't.
Some things I've tried:
I heard about something the dumpstate/logcat, I cleared it but nothing got better
I used adb to set the default install location to the external SD card (I forget the exact command), as far as I can tell it is still trying to install in the internal SD card.
Any suggestions or more information needed?
EDIT:
More information thanks to DiskUsage (forgot I can download APKs - which install fine). It shows my internal SD card breakdown as 10796MB overall, 2612MB app data, 7815MB "System data", and 340MB free space (plus some other misc. that makes up the difference). I don't have a great understanding of how this is partitioned, but I'd imagine the ~16GB has 5GB off limits for ROM stuff? Then what is taking up nearly 8GB as "System data"? Is this normal?
EDIT 2:
Looks like it was creating duplicates in data/app (on a lot of phones I think this is data/app-lib). I used root explorer to purge the duplicates, and now have nearly 3GB free instead of a couple hundred MB!

I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.

Eodmule said:
I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.
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I'll check that out the next time I am able to install an app but I should mention I also tap the "cached data" in the storage manager thing (in settings). Usually doesn't work I also use CleanMaster, which seems like it works, some times.
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.

mrzeus7 said:
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.
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I use WinDirStat also. I really like the visual presentation of both.

Here ya go. You can try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66304384
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