Hi guys,
My had brother hard a problem with his phone regarding his battery life. He claimed it drained too quick. So he bought a new phone.
After I had "accidendatlly" destroyed the eMMC of my nexus 4 (See this thread) he gave me the phone and told me if I could fix it that I can buy it for a sharp price form him.
I've replaced the battery with a newly bought one online and got the phone out of hibernation mode by connecting it with USB cable and doing the volume down + power button trick.
I've noticed some issues regarding the battery:
- The first time I rebooted it battery life went from 96% to 84%. This was when doing a factory reset (from the menu in android 4.2.2). This has occured once.
- Last night the phone was fully charged so I hooked it off the charger and turned it off. This morning I turn it on and I notice the battery is at 66%. Literally 1/3 of the battery life was lost when the phone was turned off.
Obviously, (I think) there's a loss inside the hardware of some kind. There's one piece of history attached to the phone.
My brother had it one month and dropped it on the floor and his screen was cracked. He then let the screen be replaced by a repair center. They did replace the screen and locked the screws from the battery with some kind of glue (i think) because it was very hard to loosen them.
My questions:
- What could have caused this? Can it be by something done by the repair shop (reversible?)
- In which part of the hardware is this (loss) most likely to occur? Or one can't know this?
- Would it be sensefull to disassemble the phone and replace the screen with the screen from my broken phone (the one with the broken eMMC chip), or is there 0% chance on success by doing this swap?
- Any suggetions on how to tackle this problem or is it just something I'll need to accept. (which is hard to accept, )
Kind regards,
Semi
You should first try to charge it to 100%, then calibrate the battery (there's a little tool in the play store called BatteryCalibration). The percentage values are just approximate. Android knows the amount of mA the battery has when full and constantly checks the current as it drains to calculate the percentage left.
Calibrating the battery basically means deleting these statistic files to allow the system to start from scratch. You may need to do a few discharge/charge cycles until it is somewhat reliable.
If this doesn't help I assume the fault is hardware sided.
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Oxious119 said:
You should first try to charge it to 100%, then calibrate the battery (there's a little tool in the play store called BatteryCalibration). The percentage values are just approximate. Android knows the amount of mA the battery has when full and constantly checks the current as it drains to calculate the percentage left.
Calibrating the battery basically means deleting these statistic files to allow the system to start from scratch. You may need to do a few discharge/charge cycles until it is somewhat reliable.
If this doesn't help I assume the fault is hardware sided.
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Hi thanks for your Swift reply. ive checked the app out and i think it needs root. This phone hasnt been rooted yet so ill Get to it when i get home. Greetings.
I do have the exact same problem (phone was never droped) - see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...rs-off-charging-battery-t2701353#post57181337
Nexus 4 seems quite vunerable to this though I've not found the cause/solution for this on the web yet.
Exactly the same here: Old battery made a worn-out impression, so bought a new one. Actually tried three different new ones from ebay now, all do the same: They charge up to 4.3V around, and when unplugged drain to 87% in a few minutes, i noticed the voltage going down to 4.0/.1V mostly, too.
The current battery seems ok from battery life, but i want an even distribution of the battery status, no matter the voltages - how can i achieve/fix this?
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Hi all, i have developed this weird problem in my jasjar and i'm sure it's some settings that need to be changed somewhere and not the battery itself. When i first got the jasjar, it gave me a good 48 hours battery backup on standard use but i lost my charger and started using usb to charge it. it's since then that my jasjar drains the battery in less than 12 hours. i have tried replacing 3 batteries but to no better effect. I remember reading something about the Li ion polymer batteries having the memory effect or something and how to reset that in the bootloader mode. if you guys could help me figure it out and fix the problem, i'd appreciate it! here's the details of my rom.
R:1.13.00
G:42.47.p8
D 2.01.06 wwe
the rom is the wm6 from jwright.
(nb: i had the same problem with my shipped wm5 rom and i thought upgrading it would help but it didnt apparently).
How long do i need to use the battery to check the drain thingy. the reseller tells me to use it for 2 weeks before judging it. i'm screwed with having no battery life to this otherwise beauty of a device! if i could get any help, it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance. (josh).
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. no i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it workes.
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
awright...i'd try it. thanks for ur help.
mayer said:
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
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thanks..
I too has a similar problem but this method did not solved my prob as my jasjar switches off by itself at 40%.
I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago as a charge would last less than 24 hours when I used to be able to last 2-3 days.
Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike
Had my MDA PRO for 1.5 years, and never had this problem. Battery lasted for 2-4 days on average, although now I have a 3200mAH battery it lasts for well over a week on a single charge
Lithium ION and Lithium ION Polymer (the HTC Universal uses the latter) do not suffer from any "memory effect". The only battery type that does to any significant extent is Nickel Cadmium, which is rarely used these days.
It's also impossible (well, almost) to completely discharge Lithium ION Polymer batteries - internal circuitry in the battery shuts down the cells when the charge gets too low, at up to 10% charge. This is because a completely discharged L.I.P. battery becomes unstable, broken (unable to be recharged), and runs the risk of explosion or leaking in this state. So don't attempt to drain those batteries completely dry folks - it's dangerous! Letting them run down naturally in your Universal should be safe though because of the cut-out mentioned above.
Maybe the Uni just has a large batch of bad batteries? You should also check what apps you have running on it all the time, and how often you use bluetooth and wi-fi - these two REALLY drain the battery if you keep them on all the time... Also try MemMaid, this is great at cleaning up your notifications queue, which is where lots of apps leave old and obsolete entries clogging it up.
I have the same problem. I do not know where the charger is, so I am always using the USB while syncing. I also tried 2 batteries, but they both last about 12 - 14 hours. Maybe it is caused by WM6.
I did not quite get this solution:
"Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike"
What is the solution?
2 421....:
sorry for lang. the above understands(i hope)
nastavenia(settings)/napajeni(power)/rozsireni(advanced) tam zaskrtnes co xces a nastavis casy. ak pouzivas phonealarm musis aj tam. pozri si aj podsvirtenie(backlight).
btw aj had the same prob. appeared after 6mnth. i bought new battery. btw here is several threads with same prob. try 2 look for solutions there(imho its only one-new batt.)
I feel like I'm walking on eggs...I bought my Jasjar used on eBay just over a year ago, still the original battery. I almost never use the 110v charger, always a USB conection with my Mac, often recharging at 55-75%. I just intentionally ran down my battery to 18% (got warnings to recharge), and recharge via USB/Mac again. It took me almost 4 days to get to 18%, and Bluetooth is constantly on for ready use with my earpiece.
Curious: are the problems with original or replacement batteries? Cheers,
Update to Radio 115 or 114
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
IMHO even if u charge with a full charged battery still u get a prob so i think its a common issue with the jasjar and its power managment software itself by default as lot of people with diffrent ROMs are complaining about it.
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well, folks, i tried all these gimmicks but not to any definite changes ... i guess i need to consult the service center guys at last...i didn't want to do that but i guess i need to. i'm sure it's not my battery as i've replaced 3 of them...i dont kno what else to do!!! thanks for ur posts tho as i get to try diff things to check if ma battery is doing ok...keep postin...thanks...
josh.
how 2 discharge a battery >>>>>
problem with battery?
I have the same problem, it firs appear on original battery when charge was 40-50% so I have bought the same battery model (1620mAh). But it doesn't help. Now I,m using the 3200mAh battery and it doesn't help as well. The thing is that XDA switch off it self always on deferent charge level (sometimes is on 20%, 45% ar 80%...so is very difficult predict when it happen again). And one more thing...when it switch-off and I try to switch-on back, I can't (keep switching off), only slolution is put on charger!!!
I have downloaded the service manual (I think called "confidential") and it mentioned that it could be a problem with main board (so its HW problem). So can anybody tell me is a problem with bat or MB? (replacing the MB is fcjfdj$#ing expansive). Thanx.
well if your XDA does not switch on until you start charging it that's a clear indication that your battery is empty. I have the same with my faulty battery. Replaced it by a working one and it's fixed. Something is definately messed up with the charging circuit or the batteries though. They are not supposed to die so easily.
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It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
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The first time I flashed the PDA I ruined my battery. This time I thought I'd be smart and I put in the old battery while flashing. After flashing I put back the new battery and now that one is broken too! It wasn't even in the PDA when I flashed it. How bizarre is that?
I have to admit I did not fully charge that new battery before flashing, but I figured it would be safe since it wasn;t in while flashing. The battery worked fine the day before I flashed my phone (got the "charge now or save your work" message), but after the flashing and putting it in, it just crashes at around 30% or 40%. The usual battery misery.
Maybe I should try fully charging it and then flashing again. Trouble would be how to get it fully charged though. I always felt charging cuts off early on the "broken" batteries (pull the charge plug and stick it back and it charges for a while again).
I managed to restore my battery to good health by completely discharging it in bootloader mode.
First I completely charged it. When the led went green I pulled the shcarge cable and connected it back again. After doing this a few times it doesn't stay orange so long and then I stopped and left the cable disconnected.
I reset the phone (on full battery) and then I set the unit to boatloader and waited for it to completely discharge. I reset the phone again (on empty battery) and low and behold my trusty "charge now or lose data" warning came back.
BTW I reset the PDA hoping maybe it would store the power levels. I remember that trick from my Palm days where sometimes you had to reset a PDA on full battery to calibrate it.
I charged it back to full capacity and started using the phone as normal. When the battery was empty I got no crash but a friendly warning telling me my battery was going low. Phew.
Will try the same with my other troubled battery over the weekend.
I have the same Issue.But , I think it's about Rom.
and I'm try a lot of ROM version ,only one Version canbe use more than 3 day.
I can't find any reason ,.
discharge in bootloader ,I do it ,But battiery is same time for used.
After being dropped while charging, the battery of my Kaiser just use almost a day (previously from 2 to 3 days).
I installed acbPowerMeter to measure power consumption and it shows an unbelievable value: 4294967mA
When plugged into the charger, the power consumption back to normal (I think), between 90-275mA. I wonder if Kaiser power circuit is broken or not.
Who have experience please give me an advice. Thanks!
Hi, if you've dropped your device you should check the connections to the batery. Try pulling out the batery, check if the "pins" are aligned, check if you batery isn't cracked.
Other thing that might have happened is that if you install new software it may drain you batery, i had the same problem after flashing and was only solved after getting a fix from the chef.
Thank you for reply me!
I checked the battery connectors and tried different battery (borrowed from my friend), so the result is still the same. I did not install any software before and then.
Hello, I have same issue with battery drain. I don;t know if it was droped because I just bought it used and battery is draining in one day. I tried another tool called Mobadi, and it saying that my Kaiser using 90-200mA. how about you?
90 -200mA is normal draw. Your battery is losing capacity over years of use, thats normal.
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90 -200mA is normal draw.
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...normal draw during screen on and active use...
with these older devices, there are too many tiny things that can go wrong which cause weirdness.
1. Testing with a known good battery (NEW does not equal 'known to be good'-- I had two new batteries which would not even take a charge, followed by a new NON OEM battery with a low capacity cell inside! they use some undersized cells probably for pricing reasons... sort of like sticking an AA battery in a C cell shell. Not really sure what you can do in that case...)
2. Hard reset and see if the problem persists before doing any more troubleshooting.
I´ve just come back from a two month expedition on Borneo. But when i got back to civilization and turned on my trusty N1 I quickly realized that my battery performance has dropped significantly. Before I usually had one day of heavy use (including Wifi, 3G, tethering and GPS usage), but now I only have about 7 hours standby with everything except GSM turned off. Which renders the phone useless for my (normal) use. The phone actually consumes so much power that the battery level drops while charging. The only way to charge it up is to turn the phone completely off.
I flashed the RoDrIgUeZsTyLe™ MIUIMOD -ROM before I left for my trip, so I thought maybe that was the problem (some bug i the kernel or something), so i flashed back to CM6 with no success. I have also tried a new battery.
Anyone knows what can be the cause?
All help is deeply appreciated --- I miss my good old N1!
I accidentally placed this in the wrong section - can anybody move it to Q&A?
Try the battery app in my sig to pull your battery values, then post in that thread and one of us can help you see what's happening with your battery.
maybe the charger is the problem?
Just throwing it out there... I've seen it happen for Laptop users...
Try the battery app in my sig to pull your battery values, then post in that thread and one of us can help you see what's happening with your battery.
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Voltage (mV): 4035.84
Current (mA): -464.98
Temp (C): 30.2
Percent: 90
Batt age: 94
Full40(mAh): 1452
Min Chg Curr(mA):80
Min Chg Volt(mV): 4099
Empty Curr (mA):200.0
Empty Volt (mV): 3.426
Capacity(mAh):1273
Aged Capa(mAh): 1393
BTW...I have also tried several different chargers without any success.
Hi,
I had similar problems with my rooted N1 with stock Froyo.
The problem for me was a radio image older than regular. Baseband version should be something _4.06 or higher.
You can check this information in Settings ->About Phone
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Fulvio Minichini said:
Hi,
I had similar problems with my rooted N1 with stock Froyo.
The problem for me was a radio image older than regular. Baseband version should be something _4.06 or higher.
You can check this information in Settings ->About Phone
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I got 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 so it doesn't seem to be old, but I'll try to update the radio anyway with a custom stock rom from modaco. Will let you guys know if it helps
Update: I'm now back at *****_4.06****. No change
My first thought is: what level of power did you leave your battery with before you went away?
Lithium batteries are permanently damaged if the voltage drops below a certain level. Leakage will mean that any battery left for a while will lose charge.
Therefore, if you leave a battery with close to zero power left for a long time, leakage can mean the charge level drops below the critical minimum level and the cells become damaged.
As such, it is recommended to never store lithium batteries with below 40% charge, and to store them in a cool environment, since leakage is faster at higher temperatures.
Yeah, that was my first thought too, since I forgot to turn it off before I left (the phone was stored in a room with AC at least). However, I have now gotten a new battery and it doesn't help...
I have tried to check if there are any programs that are running in the background that draw unnecessary power, but i cant find any ---at least not with system panel. The cpu-load also seem to be normal.
Anyone got some ideas?
Thats really wierd... The only thing you can do is reflash the radio and flash it to stock. Then use the new battery and charge it overnight - so it overcharges slightly. Let it totally drain till the phone turns off, and repeat a coupla of times. Ignore the levels reported by the phone.
See if it starts to behave normally after that. If not you either have another dud battery or there's something wrong with the charging circuit in your phone.
If you have a friend with an N1, you could try charging your respective batteries in your phones, then swap batteries. See how much time each phone lasts
Thanks for the tip.
I'll try that before I buy a new cellphone.
So recently my phone (unrooted unmodded N910C) battery is being extremely weird. When I try to charge my phone, it sometimes doesn't go beyond around 70-90% but if I take out the battery and put it back in, it shows 100%. It sometimes also shuts off on its own at around 40% and when I plug in a charger, it shows sometimes 0% and sometimes 40% (but if I turn it on, it still says 0%). I've tried a lot of things, including discharging completely and recharging to 100% (powered off), factory reset, clearing cache, and quick starting battery and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have similar problems and has anyone found a solution to this?
The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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Are you sure it's the battery? I took it out and everything looks normal, including the pins. Also, battery apps said that my battery health was good or should I not trust them at all? I just don't want to buy an extra battery if the problem is not with the battery.
I meant the catode pin inside battery not outside. It's your call if you buy a battery or not. I just writed here how the proces work because i have fixed lot of motherboard i knowing about this i have explained to you. Cheers
i have the same problem too and i tested every things and now i am really tire , i dont think thats problem was the battery , can anybody help me plz?
Had similar problem yes new battery at the samsung store the assistant said many note 4 batteries selling I got the last one. Maybe we got a bad batch or its deliberate. Maybe we could do a survey how many people have had to buy a new battery
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I also posted a similar problem. In my case the problem is more alarming, because it's happening in two different batteries, one of them is rather new and fresh. It seems that it started out of the blue, I did not make any major change in the phone.
I am still investigating the issue, I'll be back with more observations.
Just an update on my situation: I bought a new battery and now the battery readings seem to be fine.
I had the same problem as you OP. The problem was definitely the battery for me at least. Bought a new one just the other week and now everything is working perfectly
If the affected battery is under warranty get it replaced for free. Or if the problem does not get solved after cross checking many possibilities. Just buy a new battery. Simple. Good luck.
Hey guys, recently I've been having a TON of battery drain. A while ago someone replaced my screen since the I dropped the phone and the glass broke(stupid me). My friend and I thought that maybe that guy also replaced my battery, without telling me. But what mostly happens: When my phone is on like 50% (sometimes less, sometimes more), it shuts off. When I restart it its at 1%. I added some screenshots off today where it happened again. What could be causing this? And is there anyway I can check if the battery is replaced? Also, the new glass has a few stripes under and above the screen. I don't mind in that much but does anyone know about that aswell?
Thanks in advance.
Well you could first try to reset your battery... There are several methods out there. Just google for it, one popular one involves deleting the batterystats.bin file.
There are also apps that show you the battery health. If it is poor, it is likely that the battery is just damaged or drained.
I used to buy second hand devices, to check the battery I usually read out the charge cycles (how often the battery charged from 0 to 100). However, I don't know how it works for Android these days. But searching for that key word might help you.