I used the M8 and S5 side by side for over a week. I really wanted to keep the M8, but I couldn't. Does the following drive anyone else a bit crazy? Are there solutions to some of these issues I'm simply not aware of?
Basic inputs:
It actually takes longer to use the M8 for basic inputs, turning the device on, and turning it off. The Samsung turns on a bit faster with just pushing the home button. Fingerprint scanner unlocks more quickly. Side power button is far superior.
Double tap on the M8 is NOT perfect. Neither is holding the device in landscape and hitting the volume key to activate the camera (doesn't work on the first try about 30%). Double tap takes you to the first lock screen. Then you have to slide the icon of what you want to use and input your pin. This can be mitigated by utilizing swipes instead of double tap. It's still not faster.
Buttons:
I often found myself constantly hunting for the onscreen buttons on the M8. The empty HTC bezel throws you off. It's very hard to have muscle memory when you have a big empty row where you think the buttons are. It also takes a moment for the buttons to simply appear. S5 doesn't have this issue due to the hardware home button.
Screen Off:
However often we turn the screen on, a lot of us are also turning it off. It takes longer to turn the screen off on the M8 than it does the S5. Every time I turned the M8 off with one hand it required maneuvering the device in a way that made me fear dropping it because the power button is on top and the device is long. I generally used my other hand to hit the power button just for that reason. That's not necessary on the S5.
Screen on with Music:
I LOVE the M8 speakers. I love playing music on this device around the house, while I'm in the shower, etc. If I am playing music on the M8 and have the device on the counter, and I want to change a song, it's not designed to register a doubletap when laying flat. With the S5, I hit the home button and it brings the screen up. It takes significantly longer to either find a way to hit the top power button or repeatedly tap the screen until it registers on the M8.
Speed:
In day to day use, after disabling bloat on the S5, the devices are equally as snappy. In fact, the S5 is more accessible for the reasons mentioned above. That's all that matters, because all of us here are capable of tinkering and optimizing.
Everyone wants to talk about microseconds worth of lag, what about basic functions, like turning the screen off. It's little things like that, things I do often, which should be taken into consideration when you talk about how long you have to wait for things between devices. If we are going to argue about tenths of a second, these things matter.
I wouldn't have a Samsung phone due build quality they feel too plastic, I have had my m8 for only a couple of days, coming from the one x and although the phone is bigger I find that it feels better to hold and use.
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So basically you have made a thread just for the turning on and off of the screen, seriously this thread needs to be closed.
On a side note my Note 3 had lag when pressing home button to wake the phone up, as much as double tapping the screen, it would be nice to get double tap without needing movement as that would help for skipping songs, but I wouldn't say it was a major issues, all the other positives make up for it imo.
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maverick1103 said:
So basically you have made a thread just for the turning on and off of the screen, seriously this thread needs to be closed.
On a side note my Note 3 had lag when pressing home button to wake the phone up, as much as double tapping the screen, it would be nice to get double tap without needing movement as that would help for skipping songs, but I wouldn't say it was a major issues, all the other positives make up for it imo.
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I'm actually curious if there are any fixes for my issues, it's what made me choose the S5.
Is there an easier way to turn off the screen than hitting the top power button?
Is there an easier way to turn on the screen when the device is flat?
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I'm actually curious if there are any fixes for my issues, it's what made me choose the S5.
Is there an easier way to turn off the screen than hitting the top power button?
Is there an easier way to turn on the screen when the device is flat?
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Rooted then yes, not rooted then no.
Look you obviously love Samsung's due to the home button, maybe you should post this in the S5 forum, makes more sense!
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Rooted then yes, not rooted then no.
Look you obviously love Samsung's due to the home button, maybe you should post this in the S5 forum, makes more sense!
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What's the rooted fix for turning the screen off?
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If I double tap my screen when flat it wakes the device. To solve having to use the power button to sleep. Then change the screen of time.
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RE: Device lying flat.
Just give it a little roll on the curve by touching an edge. Then double tap. It literally takes milliseconds. I use my middle finger to tap the edge of the phone and my index finger to double tap.
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RE: Device lying flat.
Just give it a little roll on the curve by touching an edge. Then double tap. It literally takes milliseconds. I use my middle finger to tap the edge of the phone and my index finger to double tap.
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I found that repeatedly tapping the device would wake it up. Maybe I was making it roll slightly. Is there a way to wake or sleep the device with the volume button?
Drew Peacock said:
Sorry I'm a bit confused, you wanted to keep the m8 but also didn't want to keep it. I don't think the phone was the real issue here.
Plastic is what Plastic does.
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There is a lot that I liked about the M8. Specifically, the metal body over plastic. I agree, the S5 is not enjoyable to hold. It was not an easy decision. I felt the HTC was worth $600.00. I don't feel that way about the S5 at all, and that bothers me.
Believe it or not, I root for HTC over Samsung. I'm hoping they are around for an M9, I have a feeling that's going to be a very special device.
All of those problems aren't even big... Turning the device on and off is far quicker than any of the Samsungs I have ever owned. I played with the s5, and TouchWiz is STILL too laggy compared to sense. I turned off double tap to wake, because HTC did one thing wrong... No seperate options for all gestures. As for on screen? I prefer it that way... Physical buttons have more of a chance to fail than soft keys.
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crazeco said:
M8 isn't perfect, no device is. No need to get personal.
You did say one helpful thing: "Using exposed framework module double tap to turn off screen works instantly."
My understanding was that this doesn't work on the M8 yet. Does it?
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I use xpose with gravity box and I hold menu button to sleep and sweep up on screen gestures to unlock screen if u use the phone how Ur instructed to use it u won't have a problem Galaxy S5 vs HTC M8 (One): http://youtu.be/u0q362kb3DA
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So you couldn't figure out how to use double tap to wake screen or better yet slide up to wake screen and go straight to where you left off before putting to sleep, interesting.
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Exactly, if the music player was open the entire time when the screen shut itself off then he only needs to swipe up from the bottom and then it takes you straight to the music player again then tap next for the next song, pretty easy really.
The landscape mode for the camera...You have to do that within a certain amount of time as far as I know? I've done it a couple of times already and haven't once missed it, if anything the camera just takes a while to open. However that is NOT the case if the camera is actually already opened in the recent apps.
I don't really understand the screen off though, I have no problem to turn it off when I DO want to turn it off, else I just generally leave it to shut off within a set amount of time.
Oh well to each his own I suppose. The OP clearly wanted the S5 more and went out of his way to find "faults" for the M8 so that he can, at least in his own mind, justify the change.
I'm happy with my M8 though :victory: Awesome phone, first HTC I ever had and I'm glad I decided on buying it. IF only I went for the M7 last year when I "considered" it, instead I chose to stick with my Galaxy S3 and trusty Nokia N9
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Reported as it seems to me as a phone comparison thread which are forbidden on xda.
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Is phone comparison against policy? I think they should be allowed in the general section. In the At&t note 2 section they have a note vs any other/upgrade thread. I can see if it is in the Dev section
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Samsung lost me with Knox and slow updates. Yeah HTC has a unlock Dev which clearly states you void warranty but at least it's upfront. Only reason why I got this was because it had GPE. I only left the nexus 5 because I was unimpressed with battery. Amazing how a slightly better battery makes a world of difference
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Oh well to each his own I suppose. The OP clearly wanted the S5 more and went out of his way to find "faults" for the M8 so that he can, at least in his own mind, justify the change.
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It's not exactly fair for you to say what I did or did not want.
I actually wanted the M8, and would have chosen it but for the reasons I stated. These are issues that I encountered over and over and over. They weren't imaginary. They are/were deal breakers. I would love to not have to root the device in order to potentially have a reasonable way to turn the screen off one handed.
Are they small issues? In the overall scope of phone ownership, yes, I suppose so. I think that's more a testament to how good the M8 is in many respects. For example, notice that it was not the camera that made my decision. It was one of the little things.
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It's not exactly fair for you to say what I did or did not want.
I actually wanted the M8, and would have chosen it but for the reasons I stated. These are issues that I encountered over and over and over. They weren't imaginary. They are/were deal breakers. I would love to not have to root the device in order to potentially have a reasonable way to turn the screen off one handed.
Are they small issues? In the overall scope of phone ownership, yes, I suppose so. I think that's more a testament to how good the M8 is in many respects. For example, notice that it was not the camera that made my decision. It was one of the little things.
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I think it was though... The fact that you compared what you found to be wrong with something that does not have those same "faults" already shows your justfications at work, I've been there...Not hating on you because of it though, your money, your device, your choice. I'm not going to tell you NOT to do something.
You can't turn off screen fast enough, I actually want screen to be on for just a little longer, let it shut itself off when the phone is not in use.
You can't get to music fast enough, I actually figure that if I already listened to 15seconds of that nonsense song, another 2seconds isn't going to kill me, I'll change to the next song on my time. Better yet, why not remove that crap song completely that way it can go on and do its own thing playing music that I actually want to listen to.
You can't turn screen on fast enough, one swipe from the bottom up is fast enough for me to get to the app I was already using(Be it, hangouts, bbm, music doesn't matter).
Like I said though, to each his own, the things that bother you won't be the same as the things that bother me. I can understand it though so... Good luck :good::highfive:
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... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.
Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.
MillyMoo106 said:
Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.
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Holy crap, seriously? So a simple button remap should work? Anyone any idea how the button map files should be modified to make this work.. (Long time out of the low level customization business )
I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.
shox22 said:
I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.
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Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL
appelflap said:
... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.
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The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.
NextNexus said:
The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.
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It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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Seriously? I've been wishing they'd do this for years. It's a universal (programmable) remote too so I can do my TV, Stereo (which I actually use a lot) and Roku box. It's a great feature.
Plus, if I'm sitting down, especially on a couch, I usually have already pulled my phone out of my pocket.
Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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I wonder if the issue is really just hypothetical, as in the people who object don't have their One yet. I guess I'm lucky cause I had a Nokia and an iPhone before this so I've had the button on the top for several years. I'm concerned too about how tall the phone is but I have a case already and it isn't a problem to shift the phone slightly to get my finger up there (I have small hands).
That, the battery and the MicroSD card are non issues for me, but then I might be in the minority too. I've never been more excited to own or impressed with the design of a phone. In fact it's a little embarrassing how hard it is to wait two weeks.
appelflap said:
Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL
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It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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lorddart said:
It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.
anit77 said:
A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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We need a lot of these threads. All over the internet, these threads. Can't have enough of them.
lorddart said:
It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Oh.. they didn't. Nevertheless, always a major reason why I didn't want a HTC.
Anyway, let's do some button remap magic .. yay.
Product F(RED) said:
Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.
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Yeah, that depends I guess on individual. Having owned htc phones and an ipod, and being right handed I prefer it be on the right side... So probably more about hand size. I've tried to hit the top left of my current phone as if it was the htc one to see the comfort... Doesn't work for me
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Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?
appelflap said:
Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?
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You dont need soff for button remap
I have galaxy tab 2 , always hitting power button when trying to hit volume up , most stupid thing ever , power button should be on top
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shox22 said:
You dont need soff for button remap
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Really? Okay great... Pretty long time ago that I have played with HTC devices. But anyway, this is the problem. I have root, can modify files in the system directory. But all those changes are undone when rebooting the devices, i.e. the changes are not permanent. Because the keymap files are loaded when booting the device there's really no way to change anything.
Anyone? Non permanent write access ?
Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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That's exactly what I thought but when I actually tried it I got the coolest feeling ever it's gimmicky but no joke it's funnier than most apps I've ever used. Either that or I am easily amused plus I have my phone out when I watch tv anyway so it comes in quite handy
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Picked up my 32 GS4 yesterday and now I am noticing that the home button is sunk in. It's completely flush with the screen. Doesn't stick out at all. It works completely fine, but makes a really audible clicking noise. Obviously Samsung doesn't manufacture these all the same. I am worried if it will get worse in time. A google search brought many results with the GS3's home button. Apparently some think its normal, some don't. I am really fussy when it comes to QC on flagship phones.
Just wondering if anyone else has a sunk in home button?
its normal.
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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Yup. Flush. You're good.
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It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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jetlitheone said:
It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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Yeah. I have noticed a couple Note 2's home buttons being flat, while others were slightly raised. I don't know if its considered not normal, as it functions just fine.
I do not like the loud audible click the button makes. I might try to swap it towards the end of my 14 days.
EDIT: Ok, looking at it really closely, its not completely flat. Maybe a tad lower than the other phones. I don't know, I would hate to return a phone because I'm too OCD.
Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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The home button functions perfectly fine. Since it doesn't stick out, the tactile feedback isn't that great. May take it to AT&T this week. Haven't decided. I am actually more concerned about my power button. Seems very hard to push and mushy, like its not sticking out as much as it should.
My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
MattMJB0188 said:
Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Then exchange it. When they bring your new phone out thoroughly examine it first.
I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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Yeah I know what you mean. And I've been that guy many times. Its just when signing a 2yr contract and paying $200+ dollars, one has to be persistent. They all hate me at my local AT&T store but I pay their paychecks.
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I looked at 3 S4s before I picked one that I was satisfied with before I left the store. Some people don't care, but when paying this much for a phone I feel like it should be perfect.
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And AT&T kept bringing out S4's and let you have your pick? Must have been nice. My local AT&T store would never do that.
Neither would mine. Best Buy MIGHT, but it's not very nice to make them keep opening boxes of new products. Not sure if they can still sell them as such afterward.
The unlock button does seem more sunken than it should be. Might swing by the ATT store in a day or two just to check out their display...If it's that bad, i'll bring it back to best buy and see if they're willing to do another exchange . I only have 4 days left on my 15 day window unfortunately.
Did you put a screen protector
DAMN! I wish I didint see this thread because my OCD just kicked in...
Mine is raised about 1mm up. On my note II its about 2mm.
It feels normal to me...
With the Invisheild HD its flush with that....
artvandalay22222 said:
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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I'm also coming from a gs2, and while the lack of a capacitive home button and search button is a bit weird, if you long press the menu button it pulls up search. I know it isn't exactly what you want, but it's close.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
With so many other people that do not have a G2, they seemed to be concerned over the buttons on the back. with knock-on I really do not use the buttons on the back unless I need to reboot.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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I actually caught myself doing it on my Nexus 7 today.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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If you hack the N7 and if there are any PGM kernels available for it, you can have essentially the same thing (I think PGM uses a swiping action rather than knock knock, but its the same principle)
I rarely use the power button on the back, I love the knock on feature!
Theres been kernels since when I had an Htc Evo that had the slide to awake feature, couple of kernels for the One have it along with a knock on and off feature but it has a very small sweet spot, still it was the only thing that kept me sane since I had to strain and fumble my One to get to the power button. The most reliable method was the logo to sleep and awake, you had to actually press down just above the Htc logo and half the time you would end up hitting the application drawer icon. I didn't care for the swipe over the capacitative keys function.
G2 you can knock on and off anywhere which is what sets this function apart, yes you can tap up top on the status bar to have it work every time otherwise you just need to get your timing down on the double knock elsewhere. I love this feature from LG, it just makes sense regardless of where the power key is located but honestly I find myself using the power key sometimes just because I like the way it feels, its one of the best buttons I've ever pushed lol for lack of a better word.
geoff5093 said:
I rarely use the power button on the back, I love the knock on feature!
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The knock on has worked for my about 99% of the time and I haven complaints. At most I tap a third time and never use the power button other then to reboot.
pilot85 said:
I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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I love it!!!
pilot85 said:
I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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i was actually at barnes and nobles earlier getting my niece a cheap nook tablet to use and tried to knock on the display model as im so used to it now. the clerk was looking at me funny so i had to pull out the phone and show her lol
Knock-on and it's counterpart Knock-off are a very convenient feature that I'm confident to say is the MOST convenient method of turning on a phone as of September 2013. If other companies don't follow suit in either a very similar fashion or something better, I would be surpr..... No, I'm sure other companies will do something very similar. It's really that good. Only thing I can imagine would be superior is having the phone read my thoughts. Err, wait!
xyltha said:
Knock-on and it's counterpart Knock-off are a very convenient feature that I'm confident to say is the MOST convenient method of turning on a phone as of September 2013. If other companies don't follow suit in either a very similar fashion or something better, I would be surpr..... No, I'm sure other companies will do something very similar. It's really that good. Only thing I can imagine would be superior is having the phone read my thoughts. Err, wait!
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I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
geoff5093 said:
I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
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If the phone is in the pocket the proximity sensor should still notice it's covered and knock on wouldn't work. At least that's the premise.
geoff5093 said:
I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
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I have the exact same problem..
Not really when it's in the pocket but sometimes when I unmount my device from the car mount and put it in my pocket, I hold it with my thumb on the screen, leave the car and then dump it into my pocket. With my thumb on the screen, the screen turns on. The screen is especially sensitive since it's just been unplugged from the car charger.
This sucks, coz then it uses the capacitive screen sensor instead of the gyro sensor. It's not knockON. It's more like touchON.
Really hope someone or LG will come up with the tweaking of this.
Does anybody know if the screen on the Moto X Pure supports this function? Its certainly nice to not have to pick up the phone to take a quick peek at the screen.
I really would like it to be but i dont think it will im coming from a G4 and its one of the best features
once we get root and make a kernel
i think you can move your hand over it to get active display on from there you should be able to wake i think
It wakes before you touch the screen by just reaching for it. Far better than double tap to wake
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txaggies07 said:
It wakes before you touch the screen by just reaching for it. Far better than double tap to wake
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I agree. The phone will wake when you wave your hand over it. So if there is dirt or anything unpleasant on your hands, you don't have to touch the phone at all to wake it. This is better than 2x tap. And if your phone is on the edge of something, there isn't a chance that you will knock it down, since you won't have to touch the phone.
D2W is old school. Say hello to waves.
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Waving isn't not a replacement for double tap... No one should assume that. Some folks love double tap. I hope to see it added soon
Waving is less reliable also. I have to wave a few times to wake it up sometimes. That did not happen with d2tw on other phone I tried.
I like the wave, but I do miss dt2w that takes you directly to your home screen. But to be honest, 95 % of the time I did dt2w, I was checking the time or seeing if I had any messages and didn't need to go to my home screen, so the wave is pretty cool in that fact.
Waving isn't a replacement true, I would of liked to see dttw as well its a good replacement since when u hold ur phone with one hand using ur thumb to do so and wake up the phone
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You don't have to wave. The screen wakes as you approach it. The screen comes on long before you can double tap..
i hope we can get the double tap to wake soon. the waiving thing is kinda janky doesn't work all the time and would like it to bring me to the full lock screen rather then a dark black screen .
I have to admit I am kind of spoiled by it from my G2. My X won't be here until next week so the jury is still out on the wave. At least I know i can double tap off once I get my Nova loaded.
I actually miss double-tap to lock/sleep more. The waving is cool enough for waking it back up, but having to mash the power button to lock it sucks.
I found a couple of transparent widgets that kind of do this, but the problem is that they are incompatible with Trusted Devices (BT, NFC) that I use a lot, and you have to reenter your pin if you use these widgets.
I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too....
pinoymutt said:
I actually miss double-tap to lock/sleep more. The waving is cool enough for waking it back up, but having to mash the power button to lock it sucks.
I found a couple of transparent widgets that kind of do this, but the problem is that they are incompatible with Trusted Devices (BT, NFC) that I use a lot, and you have to reenter your pin if you use these widgets.
I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too....
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you can use nova launcher to double tap the status bar to get the phone to sleep.
brusslesprouts said:
you can use nova launcher to double tap the status bar to get the phone to sleep.
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No s**t? I've been using Nova for the past couple years and didn't realize it.
EDIT: looks like it's a Prime feature. I guess it's time to pony up some $$$ and give the dev some well deserved cash
pinoymutt said:
No s**t? I've been using Nova for the past couple years and didn't realize it.
EDIT: looks like it's a Prime feature. I guess it's time to pony up some $$$ and give the dev some well deserved cash
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apex has it too i believe and its free
brusslesprouts said:
apex has it too i believe and its free
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I like Nova much better, and probably should give the dev some support. Thanks though!
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EDIT: maybe spoke too soon. I was reading it may not work with SmartLock (Trusted Devices) -- meaning I would have to reenter my password if I use the feature which kind of defeats the purpose of SmartLock
http://techpp.com/2015/03/13/android-double-tap-screen-wake-sleep-guide/ seems to work
My first Galaxy device. I know it's been this way for awhile with Galaxy devices but making it so long pressing the back button to get to the menu/settings window was a terrible idea. I can't even access some in app options due to this unless I use the Assistant Menu feature. Sorry, but I don't like having the Assistant Menu button icon on my screen 24/7. We need root so we can hopefully customize the hardware key shortcuts.
Oh, and I also find part of my palm always in direct contact with the edge of the screen and then the screen doesn't register any touch input until I remove my hand. Have to get use to this. Coming from an LG G3.
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Starzboy77 said:
My first Galaxy device....
Oh, and I also find part of my palm always in direct contact with the edge of the screen and then the screen doesn't register any touch input until I remove my hand. Have to get use to this. Coming from an LG G3.
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I actually have issues like this with note 5 sometimes with no case. Bezels are so narrow, that when a bit of palm is on screen, other touches don't register .. It can get pretty bad and totally unusable.
So I was nervous about getting the edge because of this.
I took to best buy to try it out, do some testing and simulating some clumsy fingering of the device and see if it was worse..
Well I barely had any of the issues unless I tried very hard. But the big difference was, sure..it was possible to touch something like an icon if my fingers or palm overlapped, but it wasn't as bad as my note5 could sometimes get...meaning that with slight overlap on s7 edge, I was STILL ABLE to scroll and make other touches on screen.. Maybe they improved it, but IF its still a bit flaky, its very noticeable to you because its your first Samsung since they've made the side bezels super thin. I hope its not too bad. I usually just like to use a skin or a nekkid phone. But a case sounds like a must with the edge7 if touch detection is jacked. I pad was able to sort it, I hope Sammy can.
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My biggest annoyance is waiting for tmobile to ship the dang phone
Its samsung taking long shipping phones to tmobile imbisels Im still waiting too im never preordering again
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Starzboy77 said:
My first Galaxy device. I know it's been this way for awhile with Galaxy devices but making it so long pressing the back button to get to the menu/settings window was a terrible idea. I can't even access some in app options due to this unless I use the Assistant Menu feature. Sorry, but I don't like having the Assistant Menu button icon on my screen 24/7. We need root so we can hopefully customize the hardware key shortcuts.
Oh, and I also find part of my palm always in direct contact with the edge of the screen and then the screen doesn't register any touch input until I remove my hand. Have to get use to this. Coming from an LG G3.
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I have the same issue. Main reason why I took my S6 Edge Plus back. I messed with this phone at the store didn't have issues. I bought the phone, I catch myself having that issue when I'm laying down because I'm trying to hold it tightly. Again something I hopefully can get used too. Cause I love the phone itself. Coming from iPhone 6S Plus
my annoyance is not being able to change to the font of my liking
By far not having the options of " just once " and " always " to set app defaults.
laureanop said:
By far not having the options of " just once " and " always " to set app defaults.
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Download the app "Better Open With". It fixes that issue completely to how it was before.