Can I install CM on non-KNOX bootloader? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Currently I'm on a Pre-rooted stock ROM and would really like to update as stock OTA is not working.
Info:
Model : GT-I9505
Android : 4.2.2
Baseband : I9505XXUBMGA
Kernel : 3.4.0-1081224
Build number : JDQ39.I9505XXUBMGA
So, I don't have the newer bootloader with KNOX yet.
Further, I already installed CWM 6.0.4.4 recovery
My questions:
Can I simply install CM10.2.1 or CM 11.2 through CWM?
Or do I have to update the bootloader first or does it include in CM?
Is there a catch in updating my phone concerning KNOX and chance of bricking?
I'm I stuck on CM or can I always revert to my backup of rooted stock 4.2.2?
Thanx in advance for any help.
I searched, but couldn't find correct answers...

Yes you can just install cm but if you try to install newer touchwiz roms then you need to change your modem. And wrong section....
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pvdwaal said:
Currently I'm on a Pre-rooted stock ROM and would really like to update as stock OTA is not working.
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Post this on HERE & you will get help you need there?
This is for ROM Dev only & you'll only get shouted at LOL

Alttwo said:
Yes you can just install cm but if you try to install newer touchwiz roms then you need to change your modem. And wrong section....
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So KNOX is all about stock Samsung ROMs?
And I don't need an updated bootloader for all other ROMs like CM and OMEGA and can switch between them without issues?

yes.

pvdwaal said:
So KNOX is all about stock Samsung ROMs?
And I don't need an updated bootloader for all other ROMs like CM and OMEGA and can switch between them without issues?
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Knox is basically a counter to counter rooters. You should be able to flash any ROM like normal but there may be some changed needed to be done for the modem. I'm sure there are multiple threads about the i9505 modems...
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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:
seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
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Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.
Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

KNOX

guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
one more thing
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
re: upgrading
freakzapster said:
guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
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You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
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buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
freakzapster said:
buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
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Yeah you can flash Stock via ODIN or you can install CWM/TWRP and use a custom recovery. -- Make sure REACTIVATION LOCK is OFF before you do anything or it won't work.

Losing signal after flashing kitkat rom

Anyone else experiencing this problem? I was running stock 4.2.2 with no problems and now I'm having erratic signal problems. I've tried 3 different roms and even got roms and they are all the same. Never had this problem on stock. Can I just flash a lower to rectify my problem or is this a kit at related issue?
kingofthebraves said:
Anyone else experiencing this problem? I was running stock 4.2.2 with no problems and now I'm having erratic signal problems. I've tried 3 different roms and even got roms and they are all the same. Never had this problem on stock. Can I just flash a lower to rectify my problem or is this a kit at related issue?
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The most normal is that u have wrong baseband. Dial *#1234# and attach it here.
* SOLUTION: Flash 2 times same Kit Kat firmware :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
The most normal is that u have wrong baseband. Dial *#1234# and attach it here.
* SOLUTION: Flash 2 times same Kit Kat firmware :highfive:
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Sorry but do you mean I have to flash the same rom again? No need for full wipe or anything?
AP:I9505XXUGNE5
CP: i9505ZHUDMI1
Do you have TWRP recovery? If not flash that recovery and then flash the rom you want after a full wipe.
I dont know why but some roms give no signal when flashed with other recovery.
kingofthebraves said:
Sorry but do you mean I have to flash the same rom again? No need for full wipe or anything?
AP:I9505XXUGNE5
CP: i9505ZHUDMI1
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I see your CP is i9505ZHUDMI1. You should flash this ONE for avoid problems.
* COUNCIL: Always dial *#1234# when u finish of flash NEW firmware for see if all is ok. In this case have to appears:
PDA: I9505ZHUFNB3
CSC: I9505ZZHFNB3
MODEM: I9505ZHUFNB3
That's the stock Rom for the hk s4 variant. Is there anyway I can continue to use custom roms while getting back my signal strength?
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kingofthebraves said:
That's the stock Rom for the hk s4 variant. Is there anyway I can continue to use custom roms while getting back my signal strength?
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Yeah, you need a custom recovery (TWRP/Philz Touch) for install customs roms. This will active KNOX (KNOX 0x1) and will void ur warranty. Only for your info :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
Yeah, you need a custom recovery (TWRP/Philz Touch) for install customs roms. This will active KNOX (KNOX 0x1) and will void ur warranty. Only for your info :highfive:
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I'm on a custom rom now with a custom recovery installed.
I'm sorry but I am confused. Are you trying to say that after flashing a Rom I need to flash a radio that's for hk?
The file you told me to download is 1.5gb I'm assuming it's a full Rom. Is there any way I can continue to use echo Rom while changing pda only?
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kingofthebraves said:
I'm on a custom rom now with a custom recovery installed.
I'm sorry but I am confused. Are you trying to say that after flashing a Rom I need to flash a radio that's for hk?
The file you told me to download is 1.5gb I'm assuming it's a full Rom. Is there any way I can continue to use echo Rom while changing pda only?
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You should tell me before that u had a custom rom installed. Well, things change now.
The problem maybe is the custom rom u have installed. Install one older version or simply ask in correct thread of the custom rom.
Lol I've tried echo Rom, omega Rom and Ge roms and they all have signal issues.
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kingofthebraves said:
Lol I've tried echo Rom, omega Rom and Ge roms and they all have signal issues.
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Flash again STOCK ROM android 4.2.2 if all was ok for ya before and problem solved :highfive:

[REQUEST]I9505 4.2.2 custom rom bootloader modified for downgrade from 4.4.2

Hii all, i have a I9505 where i must go back from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2. I know this is no simple cause bootloader is locked but i listen someone have modified the stock rom for fix the bootloader problem. Someone have this rom allredy cooked? I hope you can solve this
I would need this hack too. There is a mayor sound problem with bluetototh on 4.3 and 4.4.2.
On 4.2.2 there was no problem, so will be very good to possible downgrade
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maybe if we are more people asking the same thing someone will care us
This will never happen. No developer is interested in downgrading their firmware to 4.2.2.
What you could try is to find an old custom 4.2.2. rom and flash that on your phone. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't.
I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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46rossi46 said:
I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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Try flashing the KT-SGS4 kernel kernel and let me know if that fixes the WiFi.
Thanks for reply. Will test tomorrow and let you know the info.
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46rossi46 said:
I found old 4.2.2 but the wifi isnt working. I am noob in modem versions
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you downgraded to stock 4.2.2? Cause i get the bootloader error in odin everytime, i can only downgrade via the Aroma revolution HD custom rom by phyl recovery but when i check the firmware version it show me again the 4.4.2 version.
oh'neill said:
you downgraded to stock 4.2.2? Cause i get the bootloader error in odin everytime, i can only downgrade via the Aroma revolution HD custom rom by phyl recovery but when i check the firmware version it show me again the 4.4.2 version.
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You can't downgrade stock 4.2.2. You can only try to downgrade with a custom rom.
Lennyz1988 said:
You can't downgrade stock 4.2.2. You can only try to downgrade with a custom rom.
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right but modem-firmware version will remain that of 4.4 the same when downgrade to 4.2
Hi.
Finally managed to test. I installed prerooted stock 4.2.2 via custom recovery. Then installed mobile odin and via this installed official stock 4.2.2. After that installed kernel link from upper posts and wifi (and everything else) works perfect. The only thing i need to do is reset counter with triangle away. It does not restart counter. It goes ok with reboot and confirm resetting, but when i check the counter still persist custom binary. If anyone can suggest me what to it would be perfect.
Later tonight i will post links which firmwares i installed.

can i install any custom rom on my gs4 ok2 it is rooted

I followed the keep root method for the ok2 on a forum here and worked perfectly now I want a custom rom but don't now how to tell if it will work for my phone
isthisok said:
I followed the keep root method for the ok2 on a forum here and worked perfectly now I want a custom rom but don't now how to tell if it will work for my phone
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Can you specify the model number of your device?
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Can you specify the model number of your device?
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yes sorry i havent used the forum before a didnt know you replied my model is sgh i337att
isthisok said:
yes sorry i havent used the forum before a didnt know you replied my model is sgh i337att
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under model number of my phone it says : Samsung SGH-I337. but I am gonna take a guess and maybe this is what you want lrx22c.i337ucugok2. if that isn't correct could you give me a hint in laymen terms I am a newbie but great at following directions
isthisok said:
yes sorry i havent used the forum before a didnt know you replied my model is sgh i337att
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its an att
isthisok said:
its an att
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well I you see in the picture I gave you the correct number so I went ahead and did screenshots so I will have everything you need without confusion and I mean that with all do respect
isthisok said:
well I you see in the picture I gave you the correct number so I went ahead and did screenshots so I will have everything you need without confusion and I mean that with all do respect
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these are the ones I was sending but I did it wrong only 4 at a tim I tried 6 sorry about that
If your bootloader is locked, and I believe it is since the phone is probably running a stock rooted 5.01 ROM, you cannot install a custom recovery which means you cannot flash any custom ROM that is not based on a stock touchwiz ROM.
audit13 said:
If your bootloader is locked, and I believe it is since the phone is probably running a stock rooted 5.01 ROM, you cannot install a custom recovery which means you cannot flash any custom ROM that is not based on a stock touchwiz ROM.
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Can we downgrade to a version before lollipop and flash custom roms ?
Nope, downgrading is not possible. You'll be limited to using safe strap to flash tw based Roms. Cm and aosp Roms are not possible.
No, you can't down grade to anything you could flash a custom recovery to. Look into safestrap.
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celldweller97 said:
Can we downgrade to a version before lollipop and flash custom roms ?
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As in the guide "the keep root method for OK2" clearly stated that the lowest you can downgrade the ATTS4 is kitkat NB1.
Since you are on OK2 bootlaoder and want to install the custom rom I suggest you need to find the OK2 based TW custom rom.
Because the bootloader is locked, you can not install the custom recovery like TWRP. You are stuck with either safestrap or flashfire.
I recommend to use the flashfire since safestrap is too tricky to work with lollipop. With flashfire you can flash tw based custom rom in the lollipop.

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