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In conjunction to the post, "blue tint problem," which isn't really a problem but anyway....
I thought it'd be interesting to create a poll to see where everyone's at with their Vibrants.
Please participate in the poll, it'll be very interesting to see...
So if you're on the blue side or yellow side, obviously submit yours accordingly, however, for neutral that's for those who have calibrated monitors that can get true comparisons to determine if it's neutral.
There's no need to lie here LOL..it's just for fun so the more accurate it is the better. Don't just click neutral if you don't really know for sure. Try comparing your phone first with other Vibrants to be sure.
Here we go!
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
OolonColuphid said:
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
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I know what you mean. Could the SAMOLED screen perhaps slightly change in its color tone as it warms up?
When I fired up the two Vibrants I have that was turned on for the first time and compared it to my other two which has been in use, the two never been used phones screen looked identical in its tone/shade.
So perhaps over time it does change as it, "breaks in?"
Does anyone know if this blue tint will get better with time? Mine seems to be the same, wondering if I should exchange my phone.
Well, mine is more cyan, though I can understand people calling it blue and it's driving me crazy. Even with brightness all the way up, there is no real white. This issue will likely cause me to return my Vibrant - along with the cheap build quality - as my Nexus screen looks much better and neutral in comparison. Even my wife noticed it immediately though she also has a Nexus.
Neutral, I've compared with monitors and other Vibrants from my T-Mobile store.
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
gTen said:
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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When compared to mine my wife's had a very strong blue tint to it. Since I ordered ours over the phone I called Tmobile. They overnighted me a replacement without any hassle, I'd give them a call and see what they will do for you.
posted this in the other "blue tint" thread too
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Lmfaoooo OPS Pics are halarious, you can barely see the difference. I dont know seems like nit picking to me.. Im sure someone will say I paid 500 for this and it should be how I want it.. Well, then wait till its been out a few weeks first and find out the issues, and if a slight, slight barely noticed Blue tint was a issue and it bugs you, dont get the phone.
That easy. But wow, Im still laughing at this... Crazy funny, let me guess, the silver aound the edges blinds you in sun from the reflection?
Flame away, but I say common...lol GOOD day all and enjoy this phone.... Guess what, your next phone will have some wierd things too, nothing is perfect like some of you are expecting...
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Thats what im saying, i mean in all honesty you can barely tell, maybe they upped the blue output so that when everyone plaed avatar for the first itme on thre phones ppl were like damn the blues looks so good.....
I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I guess if you did not receive a defective Vibrant with an extremely blue screen, even with brightness all the way up and power saving mode off, your not qualified to speak for those who did. Of course it would not make sense to you.
i dont know about you guys but every time Ive ever seen a white LED its always had a blueish tint (like automotive LED's) its really not that big of an issue
My display was noticeably blue the moment I turned it on... going to the T-Mobile store today to see if I can get a better unit with a more neutral color temperature.
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen.
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It matters to some people more than others. If it doesn't bother you then great. It's not really fair to criticize people who are bothered by it--one should have a reasonable expectation for color accuracy of their display, especially for a device so touted as being a multimedia powerhouse.
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I see the ops pics, maybe the problem is your guys' eyes and ya should get them checked... I can barely tell the diff and I got perfect vision....
I stand by my statement .... dumbest topic ever.....
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I'm a graphic designer. I work with colors for a living every day. I've come to think that I have a pretty decent grasp of color.
Like I said, if you can't tell or it doesn't bother you or your handset isn't afflicted--great! But please don't dismiss the complaints of others simply because you "can barely tell the diff". ****
I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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You know, some people here say every Super Amoled has a blue tint. I have to disagree. I've been comparing my vibrant side by side to other vibrants, and the screens vary from phone to phone. Samsung deffinately has some manufacturing inconsistences. Side by side to other Vibrants, my screen has a very visible dark grayish blue tint. Other vibrants have a slight blue/green tint. While other vibrants i've compared to have gorgeus warm whites. 1 vibrant had a very dingy yellow look to all the whites. So this is not in our imagination, the screens vary a lot on these phones.
My cousin just got the vibrant this morning, she had not seen mine. She saw mine this morning and says "why is your screen blue?" Put mine side by side next to hers, and hers has nice warm bright whites. All of our brightness settings were identical.
I'll be exchanging shortly when I have time.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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So, does your replacement still show the blue screen tint?
Wow too my surprise, after installing the new update, I noticed right off the colors has been calibrated correctly! No more purplish in certain shades of grays now!
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2.3.3 also fixed my overly bright screen too. I used to have my NS always set on the lowest brightness setting and I still felt that it was too bright.
Yeah it did seem to improve the brightness as well. I like the new settings.
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You guys don't think its too yellowish now??
I do a bit of photography and have a colour corrected wide gamut monitor I use for retouching.
To my eyes, when looking at the same photography on both devices, the new colour temperature is much closer to 'correct' than the old one was. Not perfect but much more preferable to me.
so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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That is 100% correct. My girlfriend is a professional photographer and she even commented on how much better it looks.
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I know that when I first bought my Datacolor Spyder colorimeter to calibrate my monitor it took a while to get used to the results. Much less "in your face" than before, but much closer to natural.
I exchanged my first Nexus S because the screen was too blue/purple. The second one was slightly less purple. But the new color profile got rid of all the purpleness
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agree.... i think this might improve the battery life too.
google fixed ns's color too much...
though grey does not display as purple any more,white displays as a bit yellow now,what takes ns's sharp display away.
iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
I like the new colors it looks now great!!!
I noticed the colour difference immediately as well. It actually felt weird to me, I was really used to the purplish colour in the UI. Feels very grey. Not complaining though if this is how it should have been, but feels weird.
I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
The Crispness is gone. Whites are now yellowish. I am not a fan. I did a comparison with a friends NS side by side his with 2.3.2 and mine with 2.3.3. and there is a difference and 2.3.2. looked better. This could be "the correct color" as has been stated but that does not mean it looks better. I have never noticed a purplish tint before and even looking at my friends NS with 2.3.2. I still do not see it.
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I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
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Same here. Looking at it again (2 Nexus S side by side) the one with 2.3.3 really seems washed out.
I did notice an occasional purplish tint on 2.3.2, but mostly from different viewing angles, less so when looking straight on at the screen. It never bothered me. The overall color scheme was also a bit cool, with more blues coming through. I've read that because blue LEDs in AMOLED screens wear out quicker, often they are overemphasized at first and will fade over time. I thought this might have been the explanation.
I definitely noticed a color change after updating to 2.3.3. At first it was very bothersome. The colors do seem to be washed out and the whites seem just a tad yellow. But I can see how this may be more accurate as the previous color scheme was overly cool. Maybe we tend to prefer a cooler color temperature. The new one will take some getting used to. Blue is a "comfort color" after all.
Blue appears brighter to the human eye despite the actual lumen output being similar. It's like those custom bulbs that some people like to put on their honda civics or whatever, the blue/purple looking ones. Yea they "look" bright but they actually output less light than the standard yellowish bulbs.
Anyway, being an avid photographer and spending hours tweaking my plasma TV's colors, warmer colors are more natural to the human eye and most people jack up the blues to make things look more contrasty or sharp, which in my opinion is too harsh and fake. Even the iPhone 4 screen is tinted blue to make whites appear brighter. Then again, some HTC screens are so red tinted it's ridiculous, so in the end, download the color calibration app and tweak it according to your liking.
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iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
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i would say the voodoo fix isnt as "extreme" as 2.3.3
i hope this help for people whos yelling in the screen because of display ..
Download the Screen adjuster to play store ..
And set to Red 3 green 12 Blue 24 .. now it looks bright ,, but i cant promise that this will fix the yellow tint . because we have different Phones ..
Im just helping you all out .. and i hope you'll appreciate .. this is for the meantime ..
and by the way ,, you will notice the difference color between the screen and navigation Bar ! ..
It makes the screen more cool than warm. It's a nice workaround until rgb and gamma comes.
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It makes the screen more cool than warm. It's a nice workaround until rgb and gamma comes.
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so did you test it ?? is it good ?? also I noticed when you tilt your phone ?you'll see the the true brightness . but when the screen is in front of you .. it becomes tint .
I tried it but I'm still not satisfied with the screen I'm starting to think its just the type of screen that they used..if you tilt the phone to the right or the left the screen looks a lot better but soon as you look at the screen straight forward you see the ugly yellow tint on the screen.I have seen this on 4 different phones.. Thinking of going back to my G3...very disappointed with screen they used on this phone..
I don't think its the screen but rather the screen setting they used
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I don't think its the screen but rather the screen setting they used
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Correct... and the viewing is subjective depending on what phones we've came from. Coming from IPS, were used to whites being whites whereas AMOLED it isnt that case since AMOLED has richer blacks.
The N6 is just a "warm" temperature when it comes to screens.
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I tried it but I'm still not satisfied with the screen I'm starting to think its just the type of screen that they used..if you tilt the phone to the right or the left the screen looks a lot better but soon as you look at the screen straight forward you see the ugly yellow tint on the screen.I have seen this on 4 different phones.. Thinking of going back to my G3...very disappointed with screen they used on this phone..
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yeah . this is just for a meantime .. I hate it too .. also the nav bar .. youl notice the difference .. I might return this and go for g3 .. the g3 is great qd . I like the note 4 but I hate touchwizz.
Looks horrible on my screen. You lose "true blacks" with this color temp and looks washed out, which is funny because that's what IPS displays usually look like when compared to OLED tech.
I guess it's all what your accustomed to already, anything else just looks wrong after awhile.
It'll be nice when we get kernels with gamma controls.
Is this normal or do I have a faulty unit?
Screen looks very yellow compared to my other phones.
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Is this normal or do I have a faulty unit?
Screen looks very yellow compared to my other phones.
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What is the other phone? Go to settings -> display -> color mode and set color to normal, that will normalize it a little. It's set on vibrant by default. Regardless of that setting though, the screen on this phone is a "warm" one compared to others. The phone on the left is "cold" and bluish in comparison. Warm screens are a little more yellow/red, cold are blue. If the other phone is AMOLED there's your reason, but even if it's LCD, it's just tuned a bit differently. You should know that the phone on the left isn't producing a perfect white either, just a kind of white you're used to. Personally I prefer a warm screen, I find colder screens harder on my eyes.
TLDR- it's working as intended.
Unless you screwed with some settings no that isn't normal. If my whites were that yellow I'd return it. While an LCD might never be as white or black as an amoled it shouldn't look like 20 year old yellow paper either. WIth LCDs if you lower the brightness the screen will become more colored but nothing like that. You can also go compare it to some phones at the store that have LCD's and get an idea if its out of whack.
I spoke to two different support people at motorola ...one said it was normal for this phone as the screen was optimized for gaming?? .....the other said it was not normal and I should return it.
I tried using the app 'screen adjuster' to boost the blue light and it did indeed make it look white rather than yellow so it seems to be a color temperature setting so I'm still not sure wether changing the phone would make any difference and I can't compare in stores because they don't have them yet.
p.s. the other phone is an LG G2 which is LCD
Mine seems to have a little yellow at low screen brightness but it doesn't seem as bad as in your photo. I probably would not have noticed if not for this thread. Is your screen brightness low? Mine gets more white as the brightness goes up.
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I spoke to two different support people at motorola ...one said it was normal for this phone as the screen was optimized for gaming?? .....the other said it was not normal and I should return it.
I tried using the app 'screen adjuster' to boost the blue light and it did indeed make it look white rather than yellow so it seems to be a color temperature setting so I'm still not sure wether changing the phone would make any difference and I can't compare in stores because they don't have them yet.
p.s. the other phone is an LG G2 which is LCD
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If it bothers you you can go through the return process and see if another one is different. My phone looks pretty much the same next to my Galaxy Note n-7000. That's AMOLED, but AMOLED or not, screens can be bluish. For perspective, here's what white looks like for reference. Neither of the phones are producing white. One is bluish, one is yellowish. Do you notice it when you're not comparing phone screens? After a few minutes of looking at the screen, going from app to app or looking at pictures, do white things register as white?
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Mine seems to have a little yellow at low screen brightness but it doesn't seem as bad as in your photo. I probably would not have noticed if not for this thread. Is your screen brightness low? Mine gets more white as the brightness goes up.
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I have it on auto-brightness at 50%
Do you notice it when you're not comparing phone screens? After a few minutes of looking at the screen, going from app to app or looking at pictures, do white things register as white?
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I noticed it had a very warm color temp immediately I turned it on, and then got my other phones to compare ....it does bother me yes ...it's like having a TV with a yellowish screen ....I'm pretty sure it can be fixed with a software update and is not a hardware problem which is why I'm not sure if returning the phone would accomplish anything unless I see some other pures to compare
I just found this thread on another forum:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...to-x-pure-edition-screen-has-yellow-tint.html
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I also noticed that the Moto X screen runs a little warm with regard to color temperature. When browsing the web via Chrome, there’s a noticeable yellow tinge, especially when compared with the iPhone 6 Plus’ screen.
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This is mine. I think ambient light may affect it. It looked more yellow when I was in a dark room. This is in a well lit area.
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Mine is warmer color from 50% to 0%, Higher values and its very white. Didn't even notice it till I saw this post and well, it can't be unseen lol. I keep my display around 10-20% usually on the low side however at night in bed it doesn't look warm at all.
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This is mine. I think ambient light may affect it. It looked more yellow when I was in a dark room. This is in a well lit area.
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When you take screenshot of course it comes white lol wth
@op: is normal, that's what you get for paying this little. Low quality screens. Check androidauthority latest review of the phone, his screen is exactly like yours.
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yeah, ok so it seems it is quite normal for this phone then, although from the androidcentral forum thread I posted above some screens are more yellow than others and some are actually very white, seems to depend on the batch .....i guess I'll just learn to love it :laugh:
A little Solution:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.uk.quickdoc.screenbalance
Thanks
This app fixed the yellow tint, thank you.
Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?