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working sideloads: k9mail chrome firefox ES file/task, and more. kindle reader broken

I downloaded the fdroid apk and did adb install; fdroid runs fine. I was hoping to use it to do most of my sideloading, but the firetv has "unknown apps" disabled, and for now there's no way to change that.
so everything else below, I just went to the respective developer website and got apks and then adb install.
k9mail works great, the only issue was first launch - the screen has 2 buttons at the bottom "import settings" and "next" - the 2 buttons don't show up (i.e. the text is invisible) until you scroll down on the remote (then the button text shows up) - but after getting past that I loaded up my usual settings.k9s that I had copied from my phone, and all was well.
es file manager we all probably know pretty well. although this was the first time I noticed the "remote manager" tool, which is nothing more than an ftp server. but that's nice to remotely mess with the filesystem without having to use adb.
es task manager also works as expected.
connectbot loads, but as soon as you try a connection it dies. haven't looked at logcat yet.
jackpal android terminal works normally.
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side loaded chrome 34.0 (.1847.114) works perfectly aside from the 1st time you run it.
(the first time, the license agreement chucks the app sideways into portrait mode. if you can manage to click the large blue button, quit, and restart, it will be back in normal/usable landscape mode. there is a checkbox above the large blue button - leave it unchecked, it's not related to the license agreement, it's about ads or agreeing to receive advertisement emails or something)
side loaded firefox beta 29.0, works perfectly.
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ipcam viewer
still waiting on mine , can anyone verify ip cam viewer sideloads and works as written ?
thanks in advance..
have verified ip cam viewer and tiny cam pro work great.

This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.

MajikUF said:
This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.
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It already has a very fragmented amazon store built into the launcher. I tried installing the official, but the install failed because it already exists.

MajikUF said:
This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.
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it's not a crazy question - a lot of this stuff is still unclear.
the app store is there, more or less - just go into the app section of the UI, and you have your installed apps and also the available apps.
or you can do it through amazon website, here's all firetv-"compatible" apps:
http://www.amazon.com/b?node=7031433011
the sad part is, it's only about 10% of what the app store offers for e.g. kindle hardware or generic android.
if you skim through the free apps for generic android on the website, you can add all sorts of useful things. once you add it, the app page tells you which of your devices it's compatible with. anything in the amazon app store that is not included in the above link is "not compatible" with firetv.
it's kinda sorta really stupid. trying to sideload the app store app isn't going to help, either - because it will still be able to ID the device as a firetv, and it will make the same restrictions. add something free like history channel or es file explorer, and it will show up here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/your-account/myapps
but they will still never show up on your fire tv, because "not compatible" (uh huh.)
(plus, I would worry about the chance of sideloading an amazon app such as the appstore, could mess up the underlying amazon-framework. probably unlikely, but...?
this is also why I have held off sideloading the kindle software reader app.
hopefully amazon will get with expanding available apps soon, it is still early days. BUT CMON NO KINDLE READER APP WTF SPAMAZON. jeez.)

xda app works. Also got google play music to load but couldn't log in to my account.
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other random notes -
I decided to try sideloading com.amazon.kindle.apk (ganked from google play store) for the heck of it, after all.
interesting part: it does seem to have some knowledge of the underlying amazon framework - doesn't ask me for ID/pass, it already knows the device is registered to amazon.
stupid annoying useless part: none of my books show up, no matter what I do.
maybe getting the apk from amazon app store rather than from google might make a difference. I dnno.
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the built-in es media player in es file explorer, works surprisingly well - I have been using it for medium-bitrate mp4 and mkv files (over smb/cifs, no less) as a temporary solution until xbmc is working better. and it's really not bad at all!
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gmail and gvoice both worked fine in chrome - mobile webpage as well as desktop webpage.
except for: no audio from voicemail playback in gvoice.
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linphone always crashes on startup, so no luck testing there.
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generic usb cameras are correctly recognized as uvcvideo. but I was not able to get com.pas.webcam.apk or any of the generic webcam test apps to work.
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nova launcher works about as expected.
at one point I did get super-hopeful because nova has a link to generic android settings, but all it did was send me to the firetv settings area. ah well.

tarvoke said:
nova launcher works about as expected.
at one point I did get super-hopeful because nova has a link to generic android settings, but all it did was send me to the firetv settings area. ah well.
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How did you switch launchers? I couldn't find a way to get Open Launcher to work, since I can't clear the default stock launcher settings.

Luxferro said:
How did you switch launchers? I couldn't find a way to get Open Launcher to work, since I can't clear the default stock launcher settings.
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I just ran it from settings->apps. it's not really a permanent switch. I haven't tried open launcher, so can't offer much help sorry.
what I got was standard nova desktop, with no notification bar (even though by default it's enabled), and with the app tray on the right.
at that point, if you press the menu/context button on the remote, you get a list of options including nova settings and android settings (which as mention, only kicks you back to the amazon settings) wallpaper and stuff.
if you go into the app list, all you see is all your sideloaded apps. no way to get to actual amazon tv/video/games/apps, without jumping back to the amazon launcher. and then you have to run settings->apps->nova again, if you want the nova desktop again. (or simply alt-tab, if you have a keyboard connected)
and you will also see an icon for the "amazon video" app, but nothing actually happens if you try to run that one. (I'm guessing it's not exactly an app as much as it is part of the framework, or some kind of helper etc.)
I don't really recall seeing any "complete action using" dialogs like I would see occasionally on OUYA, but then I didn't play around enough to see if it was possible to make the launcher more permanent or stick better. but when I ran a sideloaded app from nova desktop, and then quit (e.g. xbmc) it would exit to nova rather than to amazon.

ahhhhhhh ok I see. just now tried open launcher for myself - ok so it won't let you run the launcher without making the switch in settings. and we have no way to get to those settings. and the 'home' button the dialog box is talking about, is a very different thing from the home button on the amazon remote.
that's really too bad, it looks like a pretty nice launcher.

tarvoke said:
ahhhhhhh ok I see. just now tried open launcher for myself - ok so it won't let you run the launcher without making the switch in settings. and we have no way to get to those settings. and the 'home' button the dialog box is talking about, is a very different thing from the home button on the amazon remote.
that's really too bad, it looks like a pretty nice launcher.
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yeah, I tried to find a way, but I don't think it's possible with the stock rom, since it lacks so many settings normally found in android. There aren't too many launchers meant for GTV type boxes, and that one seems pretty since.

bkdg100 said:
still waiting on mine , can anyone verify ip cam viewer sideloads and works as written ?
thanks in advance..
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I tried tinycam free and it works great. When I get time I'll try ip camera viewer.

Can anyone try with Sopcast app?
If it can play without hiccups sopcast streamings of 3000kbps I will definetely get one

I have tried a bunch of games sideloaded.
Working with Ouya BT controller:
GTA Vice City and San Andreas
Shadogun HD
Bard's Tale
Sonic CD
Games that load but we need touch mapping once we get root:
Shadowrun Returns
Ravensword 2
Chronotrigger
FFIII
Dungeon Hunter 4
I am loading some emulators later and I will post the results.

titooo7 said:
Can anyone try with Sopcast app?
If it can play without hiccups sopcast streamings of 3000kbps I will definetely get one
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I could only see one 3000k channel on the default server - turbosport tv.
at first it was jerky because it kept running out of buffer. (even 1500k channels did too)
but then I paused and waited until the buffer went up to 100.
after that, I have been watching the 3000k football for about 5-10 minutes so far, and not a single hiccup.
really nice hd picture, and there is no corruption, no artifacts, no weird/unsettling motion/blur.
EDIT:
oh, it definitely made the firetv warmer than usual. but it is not hot in any sense.
with normal use (xbmc, Prime TV) mine is either room temperature, or a little bit warm in the one corner where the cpu/soc is.
with this program, the entire heatsink is moderately warm.
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Has anyone tried any of the tv network apps like CBS, A&E, and others?

Spotify?
Anyone tried to sideload Spotify?

Anyone tried to side load a settings.apk?
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scottsdca said:
Anyone tried to side load a settings.apk?
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FRIGGIN CHAMPION IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.glassxe.com/2013/05/23/s...-from-the-hacking-glass-session-at-google-io/
I loaded Settings.apk and Launcher2.apk
the launcher only crashes, so don't bother.
the settings, a lot of them crash as mentioned in the article.
but so far I have a bluetooth speaker paired, connected, and WORKING - sound is coming out the BT speaker and not my TV.
even fired up PrimeTV and sound was as normal, only it was the BT speaker.
xbmc? darn right the sound is coming perfectly out of the BT speaker.
now I turned off the BT speaker, and sound is coming out the TV again. seamless as it should be.
turned the speaker back on, and it autoconnected, all fireTV audio is back on the BT speaker again.

Apps going outside the screen
I am able to load many of the apps mentioned, but most of them go beyond the screen. Is there any way to calibrate the video?

Ouya Store on Amazon Fire TV

I had purchased a ton of Ouya games from the Ouya Store and i lets be honest, they have some games that both Google and Amazon dont have yet. I pulled these APKS from the Madcatz Mojo after the recent Ouya Everywhere update.
READ ALL THE STEPS FIRST BEFORE ATTEMPTING.
1.) If you have an Ouya Controller pair it to your Fire TV, Yes it works.
2.) Download and install all Ouya Apk Files HERE
I pulled newer APk from the mojo as of 031715 (I havent tested these yet) HERE
3.) You will probably notice an Ouya App in Setting - Applications, if you attempt to launch that application it will tell you theres nothing to do, so dont waste your time and dont launch it.
4.) Perform unknown sources mod HERE
5.) Install TitaniumBackup Pro and Freeze KFTV Launcher (You will need a USB mouse or something that emulates a mouse cursor)
6.) Hit the home key on your Fire TV Remote, it will launch Ouya Launcher
7.) Log in with your Ouya Account and you should see the normal Ouya Launcher screen Install whatever you want. If for whatever reason you click and it doesnt register your fire remote than use your mouse.
8.) Install any app/game from the Ouya Store
9.) Make - Software, launch TitaniumBackup Pro, unfreeze the KFTV Launcher
11.) Press Home again and you'll get the regular Fire Tv launcher. Launch any ouya app/game you installed from the Setting - Application.
post what games you've attempted and worked.
Works:
Age of Empire
Big Action Mega Fight!
Canabalt HD
Double Dragon
Fist Puncher
Ittle Dew
MiniGore 2: Zombies
Neon Shadow
Nostalgia
ShadowBlade
SuperGNES
TowerFall
Vector
You Dont Know Jack
Doesnt Work:
Amazing Frog!
BombSquad (Upon Launch it'll say hardware not supported)
The Cave
FPse For Ouya (Runs but Crashes when Rom is Loaded)

Do you have to use an ouya controller or will any controller compatible with the fire TV work?
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bradr00lzd00d1 said:
Do you have to use an ouya controller or will any controller compatible with the fire TV work?
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I only have an Ouya and Mojo Controller (C.T.R.L.) both work

I got it to work without autopilot.
To get back to the KFTV Launcher, you just need to go to Make / Software, launch TitaniumBackup Pro, unfreeze the KFTV Launcher and hit the Home button. No reboot needed

lightning413 said:
I got it to work without autopilot.
To get back to the KFTV Launcher, you just need to go to Make / Software, launch TitaniumBackup Pro, unfreeze the KFTV Launcher and hit the Home button. No reboot needed
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I didnt even think of that, i revised the steps. Thanks

So you were able to successfully reboot with the kftv launcher frozen with autopilot set to launch something? Reason i ask is i would like to disable the kftv launcher all together with package manager, but havnt had the balls fearing not being able to boot back up.

mastafunk said:
So you were able to successfully reboot with the kftv launcher frozen with autopilot set to launch something? Reason i ask is i would like to disable the kftv launcher all together with package manager, but havnt had the balls fearing not being able to boot back up.
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If you disable KFTV, what launcher are you planning on using? I disabled KFTV and installed a different launcher now i get this. I cant access Amazon Prime Video but i dont care.

Xbmc.. I have a version built to act as a launcher ...

mastafunk said:
Xbmc.. I have a version built to act as a launcher ...
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if you provide me the apk i'll be happy to test it.

mejdam said:
if you provide me the apk i'll be happy to test it.
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http://www.datafilehost.com/d/b703a710
Built this one myself adding launcher properties to the manifest and includes fusion/unity/superrepo as sources.

mastafunk said:
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/b703a710
Built this one myself adding launcher properties to the manifest and includes fusion/unity/superrepo as sources.
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yep, that worked.rebooted amazon fire tv and it boots directly to the xbmc launcher

mejdam said:
If you disable KFTV, what launcher are you planning on using? I disabled KFTV and installed a different launcher now i get this. I cant access Amazon Prime Video but i dont care.
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What launcher is that?
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bradr00lzd00d1 said:
What launcher is that?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2798852

mejdam said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2798852
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Thanks for your help yesterday.. i got the balls to try it without autopilot and sure enough as long as you have activated the launcher once (getting its default settings as home) pressing the home key it will boot without any autoloading apps.
I did this with GO Launcher EX and with XBMC (my launcher version)
my procedure was as follows.
I installed GO Launcher EX
froze the kftv launcher with titanium,
pressed home on remote.. Go Launcher loaded. Then rebooted with play/select on remote.
Machine rebooted directly to go launcher
This will of course loose your access to prime videos and whatnot but im really just looking for XBMC myself.
Keep in mind if you choose a regular android launcher you will probably need an airmouse or keyboard/trackpad to get around.
If you use my modded XBMC from this thread it works fine with the ftv remote.

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JJ-KwiK said:
K, so I just want to make sure I'm understanding you guys. You're setting an alt launcher without the need to use the xposed mod by rbox?
Are you accomplishing this by:
1- Installing an alt launcher
2- Freezing the FTV default (KFTV) launcher with titanium backup
3- success ?
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That's correct.

video uploaded
game list updated as well

FPse works fine on it's own if you side load it or just use the play store hack and get it that way. I've been playing PSX all week this way.

mejdam said:
I had purchased a ton of Ouya games from the Ouya Store and i lets be honest, they have some games that both Google and Amazon dont have yet. I pulled these APKS from the Madcatz Mojo after the recent Ouya Everywhere update.
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Now that we have OUYA on the FireTV, has anyone had luck porting the FireTV's Netflix app to the OUYA?

Any chance someone could fix Amazing Frog to allow the Logitech K400r Keyboard to work with it?

few questions

I want to order 2 nexus players for someone only for Kodi.
Question#1
Is navigating using the remote working just fine like on Fire TV?(I own fire tv)
Question #2
Is there anyway to put kodi icon on the leanback launcher by google? instead of going to settings and viewing all apps ? I saw some people on youtube having Kodi on the default google launcher,I am aware I could use xbmc launcher to launch it instantly.
Thanks guys! hopefully someone can answer me by tomorrow so I can order

50 people saw this and no one can help me out before I buy it.. come on anyone lol

patt2k said:
50 people saw this and no one can help me out before I buy it.. come on anyone lol
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If you join the Beta google + group for Kodi it is in the play store to be installed on the NP and it shows up in the lean back launcher by default.
I only use the NP remote,it works fine for the basic operations.

patt2k said:
I want to order 2 nexus players for someone only for Kodi.
Question#1
Is navigating using the remote working just fine like on Fire TV?(I own fire tv)
Question #2
Is there anyway to put kodi icon on the leanback launcher by google? instead of going to settings and viewing all apps ? I saw some people on youtube having Kodi on the default google launcher,I am aware I could use xbmc launcher to launch it instantly.
Thanks guys! hopefully someone can answer me by tomorrow so I can order
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Question #1: Yes, with the current Kodi builds the remote and HDMI CEC works very well.
Question #2: With the current Kodi builds the Kodi Icon appears on the native NP menu system.
I am not in the beta program I just sideloaded the current Stable Kodi build (14.2 “Helix”). Just make sure you get the Intel (x86)Android build!

sschlosnagle said:
Question #1: Yes, with the current Kodi builds the remote and HDMI CEC works very well.
Question #2: With the current Kodi builds the Kodi Icon appears on the native NP menu system.
I am not in the beta program I just sideloaded the current Stable Kodi build (14.2 “Helix”). Just make sure you get the Intel (x86)Android build!
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Finally someone looked at my post lmao.
Great thanks what about context menu ? fire tv has the menu button does the nexus remote also has same thing ?
also I read that with the 5.1.1 android build you can't easily send ES File Explorer (many people call it EZ for some reason lol) using browser to -> nexus.
One guy wrote a tip somewhere using app that creates a server between nexus and my pc. Is there any other way ? I guess after i get es file explorer I can do whatever I want.
Thanks once again!
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If you join the Beta google + group for Kodi it is in the play store to be installed on the NP and it shows up in the lean back launcher by default.
I only use the NP remote,it works fine for the basic operations.
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Thanks as well for the answer. Look at my last question to the other guy if you can thanks

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Finally someone looked at my post lmao.
Great thanks what about context menu ? fire tv has the menu button does the nexus remote also has same thing ?
also I read that with the 5.1.1 android build you can't easily send ES File Explorer (many people call it EZ for some reason lol) using browser to -> nexus.
One guy wrote a tip somewhere using app that creates a server between nexus and my pc. Is there any other way ? I guess after i get es file explorer I can do whatever I want.
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The Nexus remote does not have a context button, and that is mildly annoying. I have a BT keyboard connected to the NP, so I can use the context button there if I need to. I looked into remapping a CEC command so at least I could use a button from my TV's remote. Looks possible, but I haven't bothered pursuing it since the BT keyboard offer me a solution.
I sideloaded ES File Explorer and since then used it's built in update feature. Recent copies of ES also show up on the NP native menu.
There are lots of ways to get content to the NP, mine gets content from my NAS via SMB. Works fine from Kodi and ES.

sschlosnagle said:
The Nexus remote does not have a context button, and that is mildly annoying. I have a BT keyboard connected to the NP, so I can use the context button there if I need to. I looked into remapping a CEC command so at least I could use a button from my TV's remote. Looks possible, but I haven't bothered pursuing it since the BT keyboard offer me a solution.
I sideloaded ES File Explorer and since then used it's built in update feature. Recent copies of ES also show up on the NP native menu.
There are lots of ways to get content to the NP, mine gets content from my NAS via SMB. Works fine from Kodi and ES.
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Hmm any other way then BT keyboard? do you think pairing fire tv stick/tv remote would do the job? I will only need it to set it up with few things.
I wouldn't want to order BT keyboard just for that lol

I use the fire TV stick remote with mine and it works fine, u just have to add a couple keymap files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59770900
If u just need it to set some stuff up u shouldn't need the keymaps as they only help with the center button

pbanj said:
I use the fire TV stick remote with mine and it works fine, u just have to add a couple keymap files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59770900
If u just need it to set some stuff up u shouldn't need the keymaps as they only help with the center button
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I will try without when I get them. I can also edit add-on settings by going to add-ons in settings so it may take little longer but maybe could be done.
These aren't for me though I will just need to set them up, fedex is delivering razer forge tv today.

any of you guys have working HBO GO app without using mouse? all I need to complete my setup is hbo go and showtime anytime (I know I can cast from my phone)

[Q] Auto-Start with CM

Hi
I plan to use a Nexus Player as Media Center with Plex App. I would need it to autostart at start of Nexus Player and in case of crash that Plex app restarts by itself. I would need the Nexus Player to keep stuck running Plex and that's it. Is it possible if I install CM12*on it ?*Looks to be impossible with official rom
Thanks
Vincèn

Wrong section for this.
U can use an automation app to do that, on stock or cm12. Llama, or tasker will do it.

Target home launcher. Set Plex as your home launcher. I do this with Kodi and it works wonderfully

pbanj said:
Wrong section for this.
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Oups an admin can move the thread in correct section ?*Thanks
pbanj said:
U can use an automation app to do that, on stock or cm12. Llama, or tasker will do it.
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I know these apps but nono can be installed on Nexus Player (damn Play store that lists them as incompatible with Nexus player
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Target home launcher. Set Plex as your home launcher. I do this with Kodi and it works wonderfully
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I guess I need to install CM*on it to do that right ?*as I see nothing in stock rom of Nexus Player to change Home Launcher !

I guess I need to install CM*on it to do that right ?*as I see nothing in stock rom of Nexus Player to change Home Launcher !
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No, it's an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bh.android.TargetHomeLauncher&hl=en
You'll have to find the apk and sideload it, though. Not sure your level of experience with that but there are multiple threads and methods.

metaljr81 said:
No, it's an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bh.android.TargetHomeLauncher&hl=en
You'll have to find the apk and sideload it, though. Not sure your level of experience with that but there are multiple threads and methods.
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No big deal, the question is to know if such system survives the automatic updates of the app selected as default home ! Any experience with that ?

vincebay said:
No big deal, the question is to know if such system survives the automatic updates of the app selected as default home ! Any experience with that ?
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It hasn't changed on me unless I've explicitly changed it myself, which is easy to do. The only caveat is that setting Plex as your home app might restrict your ability to access other apps, including the leanback launcher since it does not offer an interface option to select them. I don't know how you'd work around this to get at say, the NP settings menu. In Kodi, you can go to Apps > Android Apps and then launch NP apps from there, but Plex is only going to show you your media.

vincebay said:
Oups an admin can move the thread in correct section ?*Thanks
I know these apps but nono can be installed on Nexus Player (damn Play store that lists them as incompatible with Nexus player
I guess I need to install CM*on it to do that right ?*as I see nothing in stock rom of Nexus Player to change Home Launcher !
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just because the playstore says something is incompatible does not mean it wont work if you sideload it.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ < easy way to get free apps on ur pc
http://kebabapps.blogspot.com/search/label/Llama < u can get llama from there

List of sideloaded games that work

Does anyone have a list of sideloaded games from Google play or Amazon that works with the Nvidia gamepad or any other one. Not sure if being rooted or not rooted is of importance!

I would like to see if FIFA 15 works!

I have yet to find a single game that WON'T work. I use Market Helper and then use the web installer so I don't have to sideload the APK files, and they all have worked with a mouse. You can also use droidmote to controll touch games, though I havent' done that I always have a mouse and keyboard at the ready.

They all work you just need a mouse to play the games they made for touch screen.
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Has anyone tried any of the games from Nvidia Tegra Zone? I believe they are mostly for tegra 3 but should still work though the graphics might be a little lower?

I haverun games from both the play store, and nvidias own store, and they all work as intended. Even nvidias game stream worked pretty well. I was just playing Saints Row the Third, and set the game on ultimate, and it played with no noticable lag, and yes, I know it's not being run on my system, but mearly the fact that nvidia's servers will handle ultimate with no lag also. Great experience, and better in fact that it was on my PC.

kdb424 said:
I have yet to find a single game that WON'T work. I use Market Helper and then use the web installer so I don't have to sideload the APK files, and they all have worked with a mouse. You can also use droidmote to controll touch games, though I havent' done that I always have a mouse and keyboard at the ready.
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Do apps installed with market helper show in leanback launcher or are they hidden like sideloaded apps?

Sean09 said:
Do apps installed with market helper show in leanback launcher or are they hidden like sideloaded apps?
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It's not that they are hidden, but they don't have Android TV support. One of the biggest parts of "support" is having an icon that can display on the TV interface, so they won't show up. I suggest sideload launcher for any non supported apps.

I've been using xbmc/kodi as my launcher and am pretty happy so far.

Can you tell me how to get market helper working? I haven't had any luck getting it to work.

Coolin82 said:
Can you tell me how to get market helper working? I haven't had any luck getting it to work.
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Give it root permissions when it asks. Pick tablet, then nexus 7, hit apply, then ga to a web browser on any machine, go to the play store on the web, and install to the nexus 7 from that. Done.