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This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
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I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.
Agreed on sound quality but CyanogenMod has many advantage's
I would argued on sound quality and maybe animations just because they are more much nice in CyanogenMod vs stock ROM. Everything else is just plain better in CyanogenMod. I am experiencing a randomly sound beep for about 1 to 3 seconds and dont know why. I am always on the lastest nightly.
Also I love the fact that I can see thr constants additions or fixes CyanogenMod is doing.
Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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B.s..... aosp is way, way faster. LG stock Rom is laggy as hell
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LastSUper said:
I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip[/QUOTE]
Wonderful news, im happy to hear that quickremote is still a possibility, I tried a apk from the stock ROM but it did not work, I'll hunt down the zip
Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
LastSUper said:
Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
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I had wifi and data issues too on CM12. I could barely get 3G on some places at work.
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This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
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It's good to hear that CM12 is coming along. I tried it back when it was "unofficial" and my phone was overheating to the point that it actually scared me. Since then I have moved over to Cloudy G3 (which is based on stock). The Cloudy G3 Rom itself is very quick and with the Android L theme from @Kickoff it has a much nicer look that is closer to the stock android UI. I think I will stick with Cloudy G3. The main reason being that I am able to use ExFAT on my SD card and also the LG camera allows you to save to SD and all of the LG features are there if I want them.
Illusion ROM is extremely stable with a good build team, been using for two days now with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! Its the full lollipop experience.
I also moved as soon as CM12 become possible to use for daily use.
Room is incredible fast, every day less and less bugs. With the most of them is possible to live with.
Comparing to ****ty LG's android, i finally have feeling that i have good phone. Lag and terrible quality of official android make me to feel sorry for buying this phone (beside battery).
I reverted back to cm12. Running 1/26 right now and its flawless. DO NOT UPDATE TO 1/27! There are major speed issues and connection problems. Illusion ROM lacked features I enjoyed and there settings menu was a train wreck.
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DO NOT UPDATE PAST NIGHTLY 26!!! after nightly 26 almost all connection services such as WiFi and mobile network will not work or work extremely poorly. I have tested all the way up to nightly 29. All the zips are in some way corrupt. They give red code while flashing but proceed anyways (I'm not a proffesional sorry guys haha). Nightly 29 wouldn't even boot without the kernel crashing. Nightly 26 is running almost flawlessly. I hope someone sees this so they can address the problem. I have still not tried nightly 30. I might try sometime later tommorow, I'll continue updating.
Nightly 30 and 31 are working and everything is starting to get polished over. Nightly 31 received a new boot animation darker than before with a nicer ending. Both run very well with no problems noticed so far other than very minor lag between some animations.
Mind that CM12 is in its early Nightlies, issues will be fixed but it will take time.
Well of course, I'm just recording bugs in each nightly so people will have a better idea whether or not they should move to the next nightly
I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
tenf00t said:
I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
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the activeness of this thread doesn't determine the stability of a ROM lol. flash CM yourself and find out. if you want your G3 to be as smooth and flawless as your Nexus 5 was on AOSP, over clock your GPU to 580MHz and it'll fix all the lag. you can do this on the stock CM kernel using Trickster Mod kernel tweaker.
also, no LG camera and no knock code. but there is Motorola camera which is really just as great, and there is double tap screen to turn it on.
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another review can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJC9B0qa2RY
For many is already too late, you installed 5.1 believing the hype that latest means greatest and found out that 5.1 is not better than 4.4.4, simply different. You found out some of your apps don't work, your battery life took a hit for the worse or even your hardware does not perform as well as it did on Kitkat 4.4.4. If you installed the OTA for 5.1 and you are happy, this is not directed at you; just continue to enjoy your new OS. I have taken the time to read from many different sources and viewed several videos on You Tube that test side by side Kitkat 4.4.4 vs LP 5.1 and it shows conclusively that Kitkat outperforms LP is just about every category that can be measured or seen with your own eyes. I also realize that some on kitkat may be experiencing a specific problem that they believe or hope LP will solve. This post is not designed to tell anyone what to do or not do. I advised caution, patience and research.
If you know for a fact that LP will offer you something specific that you need take the plunge but at least take the time to check what LP will mess up that you are now enjoying on Kitkat, the information is out there easily found, in closing: if you are sitting on the fence and have not yet taken the 5.1 OTA read and view videos so when you make your decision at least you will know what you will be getting and losing.
They should get replacements if they have had all those problems. I side loaded 5.1 and my battery life more than doubled, it sped up immensely and just about everything is better..
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I have read the 5.1 image over 4.4.4 is working well, not so good with the OTA.
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I have read the 5.1 image over 4.4.4 is working well, not so good with the OTA.
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They are binary matches once installed. Differences are whether the user wipes or not.
From what I understand the 5.1 image allows mofo root to work and is reversible to 4.4.4. The 5.1 OTA for Droid Turbo offers nothing I want, but I do understand probably most people do want it...new has a hynotic appeal.
smokie11 said:
For many is already too late... I have taken the time to read from many different sources and viewed several videos on You Tube that test side by side Kitkat 4.4.4 vs LP 5.1 and it shows conclusively that Kitkat outperforms LP is just about every category that can be measured or seen with your own eyes.
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I'm sorry, I just can't read this post without chuckling a bit. It literally sounds like any tin-foil hat type post on conspiracy forums. (They generally say they know without a doubt and the evidence they've seen shows.. the moon landings were faked.. airplanes are poisoning us... the government has the ability to keep a secret... and they generally cite a youtube video they saw.)
Im not saying people aren't having issues, but to say KK is conclusively shown to be slower than LP via youtube... ugh.
I dont have to cite anything and say no. Art vs Dalvik. Thats the only argument I have to make.
As for your last post, yes, from 4.4.4 you can flash parts of 5.1 and a (rooted) image to get LP with root... that's about all I have to say on this "conclusive" topic.
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They should get replacements if they have had all those problems. I side loaded 5.1 and my battery life more than doubled, it sped up immensely and just about everything is better..
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I'm sorry, I just can't read this post without chuckling a bit. It literally sounds like any tin-foil hat type post on conspiracy forums. (They generally say they know without a doubt and the evidence they've seen shows.. the moon landings were faked.. airplanes are poisoning us... the government has the ability to keep a secret... and they generally cite a youtube video they saw.)
Im not saying people aren't having issues, but to say KK is conclusively shown to be slower than LP via youtube... ugh.
I dont have to cite anything and say no. Art vs Dalvik. Thats the only argument I have to make.
As for your last post, yes, from 4.4.4 you can flash parts of 5.1 and a (rooted) image to get LP with root... that's about all I have to say on this "conclusive" topic.
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Chuckling is good. Installing the 5.1 OTA without doing a little checking first coud make a person . I advocated patience and reading first that's all, Since you are familiar with Art you already know that not all programs that our members use and find important are updated to use it. I would agree with you that LP has a greater potential than KK. I am sure it has not been realized yet... and I can't stand white backgrounds
Running ComputerFreak's 5.1 image, and just about everything about it is perfect.
Debloated, rooted, ad-free, and xposed enabled. Along with exceptional performance and battery life, leagues ahead of kitkat.
What more could you ask for?
I could not disagree with the OP more if I wanted. LP is leaps and bounds better than KK - performance-wise, battery-wise, looks, and feels. Unless you have a dire need of root, LP is a way to go
Leraeniesh said:
Running ComputerFreak's 5.1 image, and just about everything about it is perfect.
Debloated, rooted, ad-free, and xposed enabled. Along with exceptional performance and battery life, leagues ahead of kitkat.
What more could you ask for?
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I'm running an even more debloated version (customized myself) of ComputerFreek's 5.1 image (1.0b).
I wouldn't say everything is perfect..
1. Nova Launcher and also APEX launcher lost the ability to show unread emails, even using the ASOP (from Cyanogenmod) Email client.
2. Xposed modules that are compatible with 5.1 are just a fewer than 4.4. One of the modules I was using was the Dynamic Alarm clock, I kinda miss it now
Otherwise 5.1 seems to be great...
neozen21 said:
I'm running an even more debloated version (customized myself) of ComputerFreek's 5.1 image (1.0b).
I wouldn't say everything is perfect..
1. Nova Launcher and also APEX launcher lost the ability to show unread emails, even using the ASOP (from Cyanogenmod) Email client.
2. Xposed modules that are compatible with 5.1 are just a fewer than 4.4. One of the modules I was using was the Dynamic Alarm clock, I kinda miss it now
Otherwise 5.1 seems to be great...
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I use Action launcher for my main, so I haven't noticed that.
Haven't had any issues with xposed modules. I'm using GravityBox, Greenify, Lucky Patcher, NoMapsTips, Pandora Patcher, SNAPFREFS, and YouTube AdAway with zero issues.
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I use Action launcher for my main, so I haven't noticed that.
Haven't had any issues with xposed modules. I'm using GravityBox, Greenify, Lucky Patcher, NoMapsTips, Pandora Patcher, SNAPFREFS, and YouTube AdAway with zero issues.
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So Action launcher will still show unread email from Exchange with the Email client (not Gmail)?
neozen21 said:
So Action launcher will still show unread email from Exchange with the Email client (not Gmail)?
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Works for default Gmail client on 5.1
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Works for default Gmail client on 5.1
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Nova and APEX work with Gmail client too.
However, I need the default Email client, the one that works with Exchange (ActiveSync)... I have my contacts, calendar in my work's Exchange server...
Oh well, hopefully an update will come out soon...
I had the opportunity today to spend some time with one of my sons who happens to own a Droid Turbo, he asked me if I had updated to LP and I said no, he told me he did the OTA update to LP about 2 weeks ago and was very happy with it. My first question was how is your battery life? He said about the same. I asked him if there was any one feature that clearly in his opinion made it better than KK and he said no, he liked the overall effect like eye candy, he likes it because is new, different and the latest. Fair enough, that is certainly a good enough reason to change...but not for me. Next we spent about the next 10-15 minutes opening programs that we shared in common also going to different web sites phones side by side. The results were this: KK was slightly faster most of the time (1 second on average) a few times LP was faster (fractions of a second) The truth is exactly what I saw on You Tube videos: right now as of today KK is overall slightly faster than LP. I would like to emphasize my son is very happy with LP, he likes how it looks and that is fine. Reality TODAY demonstrated to me that KK is faster than LP. No big deal faster, just a little faster. So this ART vs Dalvik is an area where until developers actually rewrite their programs to take full advantage of AOT ahead of time compiling vs just in time to avoid those programs that today don't play nice with ART. The future it seems belongs to ART but in the present Dalvik is superior. Just my opinion ok guys don't get all crazy and worked up about it. Just remember you know a lot more about this than me...the only thing that matters to me is what I see when I use my phone, not lines of binary code.
Latest means better bro
Every update is for the betterment
Maybe the lp5.1 ROMs u used were not satisfactory for you but the switch to art framework , ram optimisation , other ui and the most important the stability made lp a reason of better ROM than kk
Wait for the stable lp ROM and u ll get your answer
Its a great step taken by Google
And the experience with lp is great
These misconceptions are just made for popularity maybe
I myself am using cm 12.1 and that too unofficial ported by me and the experience with this ROM is way better than that of stock rom or even other ROMs .
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manhar2108 said:
Latest means better bro
Every update is for the betterment
Maybe the lp5.1 ROMs u used were not satisfactory for you but the switch to art framework , ram optimisation , other ui and the most important the stability made lp a reason of better ROM than kk
Wait for the stable lp ROM and u ll get your answer
Its a great step taken by Google
And the experience with lp is great
These misconceptions are just made for popularity maybe
I myself am using cm 12.1 and that too unofficial ported by me and the experience with this ROM is way better than that of stock rom or even other ROMs .
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My thread and comments were aimed at Verizon Droid Turbo owners that are running stock KK compared to OTA LP, within those parameters I advocated patience, reading and research before changing to OTA LP that's all. I have operated my stock Turbo KK next to stock OTA LP and yes some things look different but it did nothing we tested better...nothing. I agree with you that the intent of new updates is to improve and make better; the results are not always better... do you remenber when Windows Vista was the newest, latest OS Microsoft had to offer???:laugh:
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My thread and comments were aimed at Verizon Droid Turbo owners that are running stock KK compared to OTA LP, within those parameters I advocated patience, reading and research before changing to OTA LP that's all. I have operated my stock Turbo KK next to stock OTA LP and yes some things look different but it did nothing we tested better...nothing. I agree with you that the intent of new updates is to improve and make better; the results are not always better... do you remenber when Windows Vista was the newest, latest OS Microsoft had to offer???:laugh:
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Similarly was win 8 but it had improvements
That's what I mean to say
Wait for a stable ROM
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manhar2108 said:
Similarly was win 8 but it had improvements
That's what I mean to say
Wait for a stable ROM
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I know, is all good.
manhar2108 said:
Similarly was win 8 but it had improvements
That's what I mean to say
Wait for a stable ROM
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And you measured the times how? Second, fraction of a Second. All perceived I'm guessing. To many variables involved. I personally think lp is faster than kk. But again it's my opinion and based on a perceived feeling.
First of all, this is not a childish "versus" topic to flame fanboys spirits. I just need some technical understanding of some issues.
So... I've run four or five Lollipop 5.1.1 custom ROMs on my C5303, including CM, AICP, XenonHD, Mokee. All are great and fast and developers made a tremendous job. Not all of them are so friendly with Tangerine kernel (I need a custom kernel for increasing in-calls phone volume), per instance, Mokee hangs and struggle like hell. AICP works well with T-kernel, but with some issues (reported by users), when the device will freeze for a few seconds. XenonHD loves T-kernel - no problem at all!
Still, all of these fantastic custom ROMs , with or without custom kernel, are sluggish compared with stock 4.3 Sony ROM. I've made a nandroid backup in TWRP of my XenonHD - T-Kernel installation and installed Binomical SLIM 4.3 base don stock. Just for the heck of remembering the Sony UI, I intended to restore XenonHD soon after. I'm still on Binomical 4.3. Man, this is FAST! This is a blazing rocket compared with any of the Lollipop ROMs!
On Lollipop ROMs I've had ~ 300 MB free RAM, on stock 4.3 (OK, deodexed and slim) I only have 150 MB, but Sony's ROM is way faster and smoother. It really looks like I have a completely new device in my hand. How is this possible? Why? The hardware drivers? Is X-SP really not able to handle Lollipop in a decent manner?
XDA developers worked so hard to gave us the Lollipop ROMs, and I praise their work, but looks like X-SP best choice is still the old JellyBean 4.3.
Agree.
All lollipop roms are really fast in the beginning but after sometime,it begins to lag and become slow and sluggish.I have tried many lollipop roms but always returned to stock rom.It's been 2-3 months that i'm on stock and didn't flashed any other rom.
dude flash latest cm12.1 nightly nd ull forget stock
4.1.2>4.3>5.1.1
I dont think this, i not know what version you test of aicp and xennon, thes lasts versions of aicp are laggy and xennon has battery drain sometimes, but the others no, all depends of the rom, have lollipops roms laggy and have lollipop fast roms, have kikkat laggy roms and have kitkat fast roms, and the same of all android version, the rom stock have good performance but battery drains, now i in miui 7, performance and battery are awesome
I NEVER had battery drains on stock ROM. Yes, lots of bloatware on official stock , but not battery drains. I also didn't encounter battery drain on any of the Lollipop ROM's I've tried - AICP stable and about 10 version of nightlies, CM, XenonHD latest and Mokee. Yes, those were not so "green" as stock, but nothing so horrible, maybe 10-20% less battery power than stock. The issues regarding battery were on calibration of the battery percentage, per instance it used to go downward normally till 6%, then, bang!, the telephone turned off with 0% battery all of a sudden. Anyway, this is a insignificant issue, I don't care if I'm gonna recharge battery one hour earlier, the real problem that brought me back to 4.3 stock was the PERFORMANCE.
What I can't figure out is how come 300MB free RAM Lollipop is worst than 150 MB RAM JellyBean. Why? Xperia SP can't deal with ART instructions, it's Dalvik-only? I mean, OK, our developers have limited resources and most of them test their code on their own device, they have to be careful and not trying something risky; by contrast, Sony have unlimited resources to develop and tune their ROM. I know that, it's obvious, all my respect to XDA developers. What I'm trying to figure out is what's that bump in the road, what keeps X-SP Lollipop to be blazing fast? It's ART? It's drivers? I't Tangerine kernel, that most of us "married" with LP ROM's?
Thank you guys.
To be honest, you have answered your own question based on your newer question.
It is optimisation, man. 4.3 (or prior), those stock ROMs are made by Sony. Since it is made by Sony, you can expect a very great deal out of it, battery life, performance and all of those sweet things.
Since Sony lied to SP users and abandoned the SP with the last known version 4.3, we have problems on optimising ROMs because of no official blobs to refer to.
It has been until now. Everything is, thanks to the hard work of developers, our Xperia SP can still run newer Android versions while still maintaining the "blaziness" of the ROM.
Needless to say, its optimisations.
As always, you have the rights on which ROM to use, so choose the one that suits you.
Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
"Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?" It has those issues, but I think it depends on certain devices. Mine for example overheats with any rom, no matter stock or custom, while there are people who never experience those problems. As for stock vs custom it's clear enough that stock is best optimised.
I tested a lot ROMS.
I like the OMNI ROM (Android 4.4.4). It's really fast and stable. Maybe you should try it.
I like also the Xenon HD ROM (Android 5.1.1). It's fast. Not so stable, but still very good..
After a few days it gets a little laggy. I´d liked to know why to. Faced the same problem with AICP.
I've had similar experience as you guys with lollipop custom ROMS. As much as I wanted to like them, after trying few, I have switched back to stock. Lollipop roms look nice, they offer more features and battery life is amazing compared to stock. However, none of the roms are stable enough to be used as a daily driver. After few days every single one of them refused to boot up, forcing my phone into recovery mode, so the only way out was to reflash. It has been a nice experience, but XSP is my one and only phone needed for communication, not a toy, therefore I need something that works and does it reliably. I think I'd just get a nexus or motorola when it's the time to upgrade.
bulanula said:
Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
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No heating issues, I mean CPU gets hot sometimes (with not regard of the ROM installed), but it's all at thigh as 60°C. Most Android devices are well in specs on that thermal level.
Performance regarded. CM Vanilla or most of the 5.1.1 custom ROM - it's fast for the day 1, then it gets little sluggish, you'll have to boot to recovery and clear dalvik/art cache to refresh you device. If you don't need kernel level modifications I recommend you to stay with stock FOTA, Tangerine kernel might cause some screen or device freeze and stutter.
Years of usage to get slower performance? LOL We're talking about hours!
Display flickering (or getting yellowish) I guess it's hardware related - some X-SP never experienced it (mine included).
OK. Thanks for your feedback guys. I cannot test myself since I don't have device.
Do you think developer support is strong enough that they will manage to get Android 6 working properly on SP ?
big dilemma
Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
BPavel said:
Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
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Try a slim stock ROM, just as Binomical, based o stock JB 4.3. .207. It includes Williams kernel and that might do the trick with RAM management.
Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
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Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
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Or maybe you can check out the cm11 last build. Used to be on cm11 for a year with William's kernel and was pretty good. With some apps you can have the disco lights fully functional.
After many years away from KitKat (2 years?), and a long list of nuisances (5.0 had neverending problems with Xposed, 5.1.1, any version, would close an app out of a sudden, and put my back to a sluggish, slow slow loading Home Screen), i took the decision and go back in time, and reinstall the golden - to me - version of android for the Z1: 4.4.4.
And yes its working fast fast as it should be with so powerful insides.
I dont know whats the problem with the newer versions, its not about lack of power on behalf of the Z1. It feels like memory leaks.
The KitKat isnt much different than every other versions that came after it. Tbh, the whole design got nailed down during IceCream and got prettier and prettier, but its essentially the same alot of years now.
What did i miss from 5.1.1? Quiet Hours. But i downloaded an app that does exactly that. I didnt even bother to root or apply TWRP.
Just wanted a fast computer that can make phones, play media, surf the Internet, make use of VoIP. !
I prefer 5.1.1
Well I have swayed a few times back and forth with 4.4 and 5.1 on my Xperia Z1, I've researched and got to the point where I realized the 5.1 improved this device a lot
Pros:
1. The battery life got a lot better
2. Precise multi touch up to 10 fingers (and more maybe)
3. Design is awesome
Cons:
1. There is some bug with the microphone, when I switch to loudspeaker during a call and switch back to phone mode then the other party will not hear me, so I avoid clicking that "Loud" button
So as you can see, for me there are more pros than cons in the update so I stick with it
I cant argue the fact that for you the 5.1 is working perfectly. Sadly for me its the exact opposite, whether its rooted or unrooted.
The 4.4.4 gives me all the good things the newer versions should give me, sans the updated interface.
Kitkat has slight lag compared to 5.1
On 5.1.1. Greenify is all I ever need off of root. With a little bit of "headroom" thanks to Greenify, I actually have my Z1 clock limited at 1.037GHz. Not laggy and perfectly usable.
i m on 5.1.1 and rooted with custom stock based rom and i dont have any major probs and no lags...m using my phone continuously(camera,watching videos,listening music,internet browsing,downloading files.) and m getting 1 and half day decent battery life i.e very good battery life. if i start using phone little lesser i may get upto 2 days battery life...
İ use Xperia z1 (c6903)5.1.1 .three days ago i uploaded mx rom v8.5.0....Normally everything is very beautiful but battery performance very very bad.i watching movie and The battery draining quickly.example my charge is %35 but later 1 minute %0. My english bad sorry.last month i try 4.3 jb and 4.4.4 kitkat.battery performance is perfectly.i want to back 4.3 jb...
I remember buying a Z1 for €630 when they came out brand new. It was so fast (I had been using phones like the first galaxy mini and iphone 3gs). I noticed even though it's still fast on 5.1 it always felt like it was faster using the older firmware for some reason. I have a Galaxy S7 now but I still own a Z1 too because I think it's still a really good phone, even 3 years later. I'm wondering whether to use a custom rom on the z1 and if so I have no idea which one to choose. The Z1 is a lot better than the first Z in terms of speed and battery life and I think the phone was ahead of it's time when they made it. It was the biggest upgrade from Z to Z1 than any other new Sony phone that came out after that in my opinion. You'd still use a Z1 now but with a Z you'd complain that it's going slow or that the battery is terrible.
As I said though before going too far off topic, I always felt that the phone ran smoother on kitkat than it does on lollipop. I have no idea why, maybe it's the ram usage or the way it reminds me of when I first bought a Z1.
Hi All,
Since acquiring MXP back in Oct 2015, I have stayed away from rooting and flashing custom ROM (something which I did from day one on my Samsung Google Nexus) because I was more or less happy with the out of the box behavior.
But now MXP on Marshmellow has become kind of slow and ofcourse Nougat roadmap is still not clear (whether it will at all come in May).
So now I want to join the wagon.
So it would be immensely helpful if you can mention which custom ROM you are using as daily driver and why sticking to it?
My criteria is primarily smooth performance and decent battery (now it doesnt last 12 hours on full charge).
Thanks in advance
Roy
I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.
Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.
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all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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You can install Moto cameras!
dev>null said:
You can install Moto cameras!
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tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also
rohitpaul9000 said:
tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also
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For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
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shrey. said:
I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.
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using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.
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dev>null said:
Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!
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K.khiladi said:
For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
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Thanks all for your replies - sorry for replying late here.
I have seen Moto G4 Plus camera and I am not too happy with its focus.
Is the same camera app used in Nougat roms as well?
I hope and guess the MXP moto camera app would still work - right?
Thanks again!
i am going to change my stock rom, which custom rom should i choose?
Hello all,
I have been using this ROM with Optimis r20 kernel and latest GlassfishCP script since last 4 days.
This is my first custom ROM in MXP, so I must congratulate the devs who have made this usable as daily driver.
Mostly has been running fine with two odd reboots from Recent screen.
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One odd observation-FB is unable to get updates, even within app when in mobile data mode. Works perfectly fine with Wifi. Otherwise mobile data works fine and other social apps work fine in mobile data mode. Any guidance if this makes sense, would help.
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This happened to me as well on almost all ROMs, in my case mms internet access point was setup instead of one which is required for internet, www to be exact for Vodafone India.
Try to switch it and you will be good to go. Alternate method is to remove proxy from access point.
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My one of the most important criteria was battery life which has not improved till now. I would still reserve my view on that as it's been only 4 days.
Camera focussing has also been same as before in stock MXP using stock Moto camera app(not g4).
Cheers
Roy.
I primarily use RR as my daily driver. Mainly because it has the most features out of all roms. I like having as much customization options as possible. Battery life is pretty good for me, and the rom is stable and performs quite well.
My second choice would be either AOSP Extended or AOSIP. Both have a lot features as well, and they're very smooth and have excellent battery life.
I don't use any mods or custom kernels.
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all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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I don't see such an issue. Maybe you have some hardware issue or a scratched lens. What ROMs did you try?
Any one facing issue with quick charge? It stopped working on my phone
AOSCP because:
-Pixel style;
-Same battery life as stock;
-No bugs whatsoever
I'm on aokp rom since early January and it has been my daily driver ever since. No sudden reboot, no app crashes, everything works fine, bluetooth, gps, moto camera, google camera (I use it only for lens blur effect). maybe someday I'll try the aoscp or the aicp roms.