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Posted weeks ago .
I phone wins it has a SEARCH button .
jje

I know, having to hold down a button for 1 second is SUCH a drag on the SGS2..
These pictures will keep coming for every iteration of the iPhone.

JJEgan said:
Posted weeks ago .
I phone wins it has a SEARCH button .
jje
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what search button?

haha =) Apple have to do something big in the future now..

These discussions are becoming pointless. I love sgs2 and wouldn't swap it for an ip4, but then again, if I could be arsed (to show the pointlessness) I would do a sheet where the galaxy only has one tick over a stone and ip4 has loads. Resolution, UI presentation, transitions etc.. ip4 is much better in some respects, as is the sgs2. Pointless..

Don't become as Iphone funboys pls.

deanwray said:
These discussions are becoming pointless. I love sgs2 and wouldn't swap it for an ip4, but then again, if I could be arsed (to show the pointlessness) I would do a sheet where the galaxy only has one tick over a stone and ip4 has loads. Resolution, UI presentation, transitions etc.. ip4 is much better in some respects, as is the sgs2. Pointless..
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It`s made to laugh only.. you mention resolution. all websites favorizeses SAMOLED+ over the IPS display. UI on the iPhone is the same as it was back in 2007 with only icons on the screen, nothing more.
The list could actually contained 3x more stuff than it does, making the iPhoneusers look like they live in a prison.
But both have pros and cons, that`s right. But the picture still is funny;D

Comparing a year old iphone to the, less than a month old galaxy S II is a bit weak.
That said, iphone is a GAME changer and MAGICAL woooooooo weeeeeeeee

there are many things for a serious developer standpoint that are way better on ios. But from a user standpoint just looking at hardware course the sgs2 is super, it's way newer! But at the end of the day, most of those points on the list aren't true. I have dlna streaming on 3gs i have etc. Wirless sync, wicked multitasking and can even force an app to act as foreground even when in background (continue play video, running a graphics filter on an image etc). Comparing the 2 only has a point to the individual comparing. I dont get this defensiveness over phones really. oh well

Well, I happened to change loads of mobile devices (buy and sell ofcourse), some of them being HTC Desire HD, HTC HD7, Samsung Galaxy S, LG Optimus 2x, Nokia N8, Nokia C7, Xperia Arc, and now the iPhone.
I have to say that, although it is a little bit limited when it comes to "openness" compared to almost every other OS (Windows Phone OS is by far the worst crap I have ever tasted, so I dont even count it in), iPhone has the + that it is much more stable than anything else in the market, which is what people really want when it comes to business usage. And everything that it has on it works exactly as it should (e.g. the 5mp camera quality is fantastic, and way better, especially when it comes to 720p recording, than all the other devices I owned). GPS "hooks up" in max 20 secs, battery life is excellent, it never crashes, it is always lightning fast with no hick-ups (had many of these problems with Galaxy S).
And now, suddenly, the news is that Android is being struck by viruses and trojans (I personally believe that, if such malware exist, its either Jobbs job, or Gates ). When I had the Arc, I installed AVG, which was crap, and when I uninstalled it it ****ed up my device, which required a full restore.
I wish that Google just stopped jumping from version to version lightning fast (7 versions in 3 years is an exaggeration), and just pause for a year, trying to refine 2.3 OS and the Android Market management.

deanwray said:
These discussions are becoming pointless. I love sgs2 and wouldn't swap it for an ip4, but then again, if I could be arsed (to show the pointlessness) I would do a sheet where the galaxy only has one tick over a stone and ip4 has loads. Resolution, UI presentation, transitions etc.. ip4 is much better in some respects, as is the sgs2. Pointless..
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There is a difference though. most of the claims the iPhone can make against the SGS2 are subjective only, not technical. The resolution of the screen is pretty much the only one it can win and there are counter arguments about other aspects of the screen (poor blacks, small size, wrong aspect ratio etc).

rovex said:
There is a difference though. most of the claims the iPhone can make against the SGS2 are subjective only, not technical. The resolution of the screen is pretty much the only one it can win and there are counter arguments about other aspects of the screen (poor blacks, small size, wrong aspect ratio etc).
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Hence why I said a hardware comparison is obviously sgs2 bias. But IOS vs Android is another matter. But the best is always what most suits the individual. Not what anyone other than YOU say. So thats why I still think comparing them in anything but superficial and subjective ways is almost impossible. UI speed, but what if your a little slow Customizable to hell, what if you dont customize, touch response, what if your not one to notice, call quality, what if you only ever phone when your on a building site lol Everything is context based and subjective

Of course, everything is subjective in this matter. But when all the reviewers come with the same conclusion on which is the best, can we then conclude that the product is best for the mass? (Generally)

SIIII said:
Of course, everything is subjective in this matter. But when all the reviewers come with the same conclusion on which is the best, can we then conclude that the product is best for the mass? (Generally)
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Ahhh, a philosophical question
In my very humble opinion (relevant only to meee):
2 answers:
a) you can conclude what you want, as it's your conclusion (but no1 else's)
b) in only as much as you believe one, two or even a group can speak for the entire population all users.
Even with just the sales figures, even though iphone product range in mobile smartphone market has a much bigger share than samsung smartphones, I would not presume that ip4 is better for the masses. For to conclude of presumption is but a fools game
enough of my bs now

nice work

what exactly makes the multitasking on the gs2 real and the multitasking on the iphone 4 fake? on android i thought all the devices you have to hold down the home button which pops up an apps list and go to another app just like you do on iphone

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what exactly makes the multitasking on the gs2 real and the multitasking on the iphone 4 fake? on android i thought all the devices you have to hold down the home button which pops up an apps list and go to another app just like you do on iphone
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That is correct for android - and that'll switch you like one does in windows.
With apple, SOME apps will multi-task but others with simply close down and restart when you open them. For example every time I go to re-open IM+ (after a few minutes of browsing/gaming etc) it will have to rebuild my session.
My calendar apps has to re-pull down my events. A few games have to reload.
(this all goes on on an iPad so it's not as if it's not meant to multi-task)
It could just be with my experiences of apps, but I've never had this problem with my phone.
Also i think that's the way the iPhone 4 achieves such a good battery life, because many of the apps are not actually running in the background, even thought they appear to be - not sure about that though.

Honestly? I just don't care about these ordeals anymore. Honestly I prefer the openness of android and hate itunes and having to screw with that whole deal to put media on my phone. I think that rejecting facts is frustrating on either end but tend to see this more on the iphone end in my personal experiences. I also think it is intelligent and obviously works, but the way apple exploits the less technically savvy people who buy a $40 fm radio adapter or car adapter that is apple specific compared to the $5 one that is generic and works with any media device : / there are some benefits and perhaps people either don't care. Or really want to 'accessorize' all their stuff to be apple-tastic. But i think some people are disappointingly exploited by this. Also name brand association has pissed me off. Graduated high school a few years back and hated hearing 'no listening to ipods' thinking i should be able to take out my sansa, (enter name of any pmp besides ipod here). And tell them screw off because they said simply no ipods assuming that would cover everything. But reliability is nice. They have stepped up their game with using decent hardware typically their hardware was far behind and charged 150% and still sold. But the iphone 4 was on par hardware wise with other phones and their ipads appear to be as well. But to each his own if anyone wants to spend their money on that that's their personal deal.
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Therollingstone said:
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Thank you starting to see the pic all over the web now.. haha

HTC One X and Galaxy 3 comparison thread

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25893455&postcount=10
"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."

DocRambone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25893455&postcount=10
"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."
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Design and TW vs Sense are both subjective. Some will find the S3 design and TW more to their liking

HOX
- unibody build, nice design, feels great in the hand and very premium.
- companion core is amazing for standby time
- screen is one of the best if not IPS displays I've used, great all around
- better battery life if web browsing due to LCD
- camera hardware is good
- software in general isn't the best yet, falls behind Samsung by a good margin as usual
- some quality control issues being sorted out especially with displays
- tegra zone if ur into that
Both
- Quad-core is overkill, newer architecture would be best. Was hoping for the dual-core Exynos based off 28nm to be in SGS3. S4 Krait looks like the way to go for now in terms of performance and battery savings.
SGS3
- exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu
- software hardware integration is one of the best
- samoled hd has best blacks and vivid though oversatturated colors, Samsung tweaked it better supposedly
- pentile is still a bit noticeable, not a dealbreaker
- still using plastic and definitely feels "cheaper"
- sd support, removable bigger battery
- IMO the design is ugly, especially the back. The white color looks okay.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Both phones are much more comparable than Sgs2 and sensation. They trade blows and comes down to what you want.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759.php
HTC One X over Samsung Galaxy S III
Impressive polycarbonate unibody
Brighter IPS LCD2 screen with a full set of subpixels
Beats Audio
Already on the market
Likely a bit cheaper
Samsung Galaxy S III over HTC One X
Bigger screen - 4.8" over 4.7"
Higher display contrast and better sunlight legibility
More storage options - 16/32/64GB + microSD over non-expandable 32GB
S Voice natural language commands and dictation
S Beam for easy and fast file transfers
User-accessible 2100mAh battery over non-removable 1800mAh battery
1.9MP front-facing camera with Smart Stay
+ Better sound quality
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If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
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Should we add comparisons to the Evo 4G LTE in this thread? because that phone will be much closer to the GS3 US release - both will have the same cpu, same size battery and sdcard, so the only difference will be the screen, software and chassis - and even the chassis is probably going to be different.

Yawn. Anyone got anything new for the table?
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Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss

pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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GSMarena is way more accurate in terms of battery comparison.
I get around 4 hour using my HTC One X browsing with around 10% juice left. So its pretty accurate.

pewpewbangbang said:
People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
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I remember getting a similar answer from you in a different thread, it's just weird to see you being so active on a forum for a phone that you see as inferior, or at least not to your liking... I didn't mean to be a jerk back then but some of your phrasing really sounds like you are making yourself feel better over your purchase. For example: "exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu, but not a humongous difference, nothing noticeable both are more than fast enough for anything out" Why explain? it's faster period. Even the dual core of the S2 is more than enough for pretty much everything on the market so why do you have to downplay it by adding stuff like that?
Both phones are great and have their pros and cons we all know that but right now, the still unoptimized S3 which is not even yet released wins most if not all "hands on" reviews. So it is almost certainly the better phone. The screen is a matter of taste. I prefer AMOLED and I'm saying that as an intermediate photographer... I have my dedicated equipment for "natural" colours and such and I see no use for it on a phone and multimedia device. As far as multimedia goes it looks FAR better on an AMOLED screen for the blacks alone. Not to mention it has a far superior battery life when it comes to that.
HTC seems to aim at the hip, young and "cool" audience where as the galaxy series seems to aim more at the matured audience IMO. Beats audio by "Dr. Dre" and Sense as an indication for that... I can't stand the looks of sense and while TouchWiz will not win any beauty contest it still looks more grown up to me, especially those small changes they did in the app drawer etc.

MultiLockOn said:
Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
Sense is a memory hog, but it looks good, with nice widgets etc, is user friendly, and htc have listened to feedback by slimming it down.
As you say, for most people on here the phone will be rooted and sense/TouchWiz isn't an issue.....although I do like being able to choose between sense/de-sensed/miui/vanilla android/CM9 ROMs.
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MultiLockOn said:
And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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As long as you don't try to make your personal opinion out to be what everyone else should be thinking and imply that they're somehow not quite right in the head for disagreeing with you, have at it. Your opinion's no more valid or invalid than anyone else’s.
LCD vs. AMOLED, PenTile vs. non-PenTile, design, feel, and build materials are all subjective and therefore can't be right or wrong. Things like fixed storage and non-replaceable batteries aren't debatable. However whether they're important to everyone equally is.
There’s “right” and then there’s “general consensus.” From the amount of commentary regarding the SGS3’s design both here and in the press the general consensus is that it’s not universally appealing. Even the GSMArena review which has now become the penultimate validation of the SGS3's supremacy commented on it. Personally, I’m getting a SGS3 in spite of its looks; not because of them.

pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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tests are always a point in time capture of things and it is imho just right to compare both devices with stock configuration. you could always argue "but if i do this and that my device is faster/better" but that is not the point.
if you tell someone who wants to decide between a volkswagen golf and a honda civic that the volkswagen golf is faster, just because you have the GTI version or did something to the engine to make it faster will not really help the guy trying to compare the two cars. of course you could apply an update for the htc one x and than gain an advantage, but now samsung users could say "but if you install the latest samsung rom you again get better results" and so on. there are many many many devices that never see an update at all, because their owners are either afraid of OTA-messages telling them to update or they simply do not install the manufacturer update software on their PC. to get back to the car analogy, if you tell the guy to get a volkswagen golf, because it's faster and the guy does it and ends up being disappointed with slower car because he thought it was faster as is and not with tweaks/tuning you are to blame.
i could again argue that my galaxy s II is faster than the htc one x because i get higher scores in some due to the uber-cool minimalistic rom i installed. should i tell anybody now to buy the galaxy s2 because its better than the htc one x ?
it is remarkable how much time htc one-x users spend here in a "foreign" forum to flame against the samsung galaxy s3. seriously, if i had a htc one x i would by happy with it and if i am content with the situation i enjoy it and feel no need to visit forums of other devices to tell them that my device is superior.
this really looks like a case of cognitive dissonance where you try to construct a "version" of reality where the purchase of the htc one x against waiting for the galaxy s3 makes sense.

Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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Why do you get so upset and feel that he's regretting his buy? It looks to me that he's pointing out his opinion quite respectfully. Ugly isn't how i'd describe it but to me it looks plain, it looks like a samsung, but i'll still buy it. The thread title will lure one x owners here, can you not see that? I hope the sgs3 lives up to your expectations and has no launch issues as yourself and the other members that struggle to deal with differing opinions will struggle to deal with the sniggers from the one x owners.
The sgs3 forum is the place to be if you want a comparison thread between one x and sgs3, its almost as if some people are trying to justify choosing the samsung after it failed to live up to hype by bashing the one x.

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HTC EVO 4G LTE:
-Dedicated Camera Button
-Kickstand
-Available in your hands May 18th
SGS3 - Sprint Variant(Assumptions):
-+100mAH battery size
-Removable battery
Tossup:
Screen size
Screen tech (Pentile vs LCD)
Sense vs TW
Build Quality (HTC One X > SGS3, but EVO varies from it for better or for worse)
Sound Quality (If the DaC is based on the SoC, should be very similar)
Processor
GPU

And release date of GS3 in the US is unknown - it could be delayed months. Also there is a good chance the phone we get won't have a physical home button (at least with Sprint).

1orka said:
Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post:
"No, I met the controlled environment where they had the phones take photos of photo comparison.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
It is no coincidence that that noise in all the other images remain. The noise is only more evident in these comparisons. Scroll all along the pictures to see what I'm talking about.
Taking pictures of my dogs with my HOX I can actually notice a noise on them, and zooming in it is more evident.
Look around the brown, you see a noise.
What you say might be true, I honestly won't know till I get my SGS3 and do my own comparisons on a daily basis and choose between the One X and SGS3."
I do see noise but it's also a lot brigher
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
And again, there is blue tint on SGS3 sample.
And i'm not interested at looking at grey charts and some crappy quality posters, if i already have real life photo samples, including those taken in controlled environment, where i clearly see who the winner is, sorry..
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So what you are saying here is that you are not interested in anything that doesn't support your argument but only interested in things that support your argument?

Basil3 said:
Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel
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here comes the first flaw in your theory. so you say people would prefer the htc one x because of the feel, even though you did not ever touch the galaxy s3...
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, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
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how a symmetric order of flash, camera lense, loudspeaker grill is perceived as "messy" can only be explained by the math teacher that probably gave you low grades in geometry.
in general i like very much that samsung did take a further step with touchwiz to improve the user experience in a way that will omit the need to root the phone for user interface tweaks. just think of how they integrated what jkay added with the scrollable notification bar shortcuts... very nice i gotta say

[MINI REVIEW] Xperia x8

This thread has been created to review the Xperia x8 device. As I say in all my reviews, although there may be other threads reviewing the device, I think it is valid that I give tips based on my experience. This is a Mini guide which means that I will only highlight key information about the phone.
Suggestions are like gold to me and I just want to make my service better. All reasonable comments are welcome. Please PM me if you have any urgent problems. I am sorry if my service is uninvited.​ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Xperia x8 burst into stores around September 2010 worldwide. After using the phone for nearly a year, I can confirm that it is a great phone for both advanced android users and basic ones. I hope to elaborate on the ultimate phone formula used in the device. I will cover a few specific areas.
The device is renowned for its 3G capabilities was developed by the late Sony Ericsson shipped with the Android 1.6 architecture and officially upgradable to the newer 2.1 version. XDA has enabled many ways of surpassing this firmware limit and expanding your experience.
Physical Hardware
You can probably guess that the phone will not have the latest hardware if it was created two years ago and this is why I thought I would highlight the now weakest point first.
The phone has a 76 mm powerfully capacitive touch screen LCD. It has a small yet firm resolution of 320 by 480 pixels. On the back of the device is a 3.2 megapixel camera with fixed focus and no flash and there is no front facing camera. Photos can be geotagged although this feature is not necessarily useful. Fortunately camera can be accessed using the touchscreen menu, or via the dedicated camera button on the side of the phone. The Xperia X8 uses a 600 MHz Qualcomm MSM7227 processor, as well as 3-axis accelerometers and built-in Global Positioning System. It also has a an ambient light sensor and a digital compass. The Xperia also sports a 1200mAh which was quite an improvement to its predecessor the x10 mini.
Although not initially available, Multi-touch support was also added to several aftermarket firmware versions (ROMS) cough* nAa* cough MiniCM9 cough* .
Like nearly every device, in its day, the x8 attracted many people simply because of mid-range cost effectivity
Physical Appearance
The Xperia line of mobile phones has always amazed critics with its design being second to none. This fact is what led many to believe the next Nexus phone/s will be designed by the same art team. The phone has a curved back with quite a boxed like front. Combining the generic phone look with a rather futuristic design gives the cellular device an original overall look. On purchasing the phone you are provided with two different coloured backs (varies depending on carrier and country).
User Friendliness
As mentioned previously, the mobile comes shipped with android 1.6 upgradable to 2.1. I can only comment on the 2.1 software seeing as this is the only one I have used.
Sony Ericson paid large amounts of attention to detail and although many users are against developers overhauling android, I believe this was a necessary step as the stock firmware runs flawlessly on the device and SE adds many feature that will make tasks which many believe common easier. I did feel that this generation of phones marked the death of Pay as you Go as many features are internet reliant and internet is impossible on P&G. In addition to this, the raw support for the phone gives advanced users satisfaction too. Not only does XDA support customization but SE does too! More phone developers should take a leaf out of Sony Ericson's book and offer support like they do.
Cost Efficiency
Nowadays, the price of android products seems to depreciate considerably faster than other rivals. This is to be expected seeing as the mobile phone market itself is considerably saturated and with more android variants entering each day cost/unit depreciation will be far greater than the iPhone branding. The phone has become a mid range low cost phone. I would say for a price as low as £80 in the UK, nearly all users will be appeased. The phone teaches users who were not particularly advanced, many things about android. Something the spoon feeding of iOS will never do.
Conclusion
The Xperia x8 is a great low cost phone for beginners to android as well as advanced users. The hardware is acceptable however people will become thirsty for more in this current day and age. Stunning visuals means that you will not be embarrassed in front of your friends and firmware is never an issue. Pay as you go may have been abandoned for the time being but seems to be getting adopted by Google with their latest jelly bean. With the Sony Ericson department no closed, phones like this just won't be produced anymore. Sony are still finding their feet but I think they are going in the HTC direction producing too many phones at once. If phone manufacturers worked upon the fundamentals like SE did, we would have the new breed of ultimate phones.
RATING: I give this phone a 7 jelly beans out of 10. I would nominate this phone as LCTOTY. (Low cost thing of the year) Actually it is a tie between this and toilet paper. :cyclops:
Thankyou for reading my review.
NOTE: Sometimes I find myself on XDA in the early hours of the morning providing the best possible. I sometimes do not pay attention and will get angry quickly. I never mean any disrespect to anyone. If I do cross the line I am sorry in advance. Please PM me and bring my comment to my attention. I will issue an apology ASAP. Even though many advanced XDA users have disappointed me I will always offer XDA the best. I am always trying to be as nice as possible regardless of what people do to anger me so feel free to ask for help with anything.
Sources
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X8
Special Thanks to my good friend KidCarter93. Structural duplication rights are shared with him.
Special Thanks also to mf2112 for all his support. ​
Special Mention to IAmNice, lucastan96, SpyderX and RohinZaraki. Without them the x8 community would be a darker place. ​

Lol. Nice review. Couldn't have said it better myself. You're on a roll my man. :thumbup:
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Wow this made me very proud of my x8
Just sent

It's RohinZaraki not RohinZakari..
Sent from my Xperia™ X8

nazz.rule said:
It's RohinZaraki not RohinZakari..
Sent from my Xperia™ X8
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LOL!

Vınce said:
LOL!
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Hi vince,
I wonder what do you want to say with your comment?
@OP
Why change userid?

nice thread, thanks now I know Im using

That's a wonderful guide, thanks guy
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I would nominate this phone as LCTOTY. (Low cost thing of the year) Actually it is a tie between this and toilet paper.
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I can't stop laughing at this! :laugh:

nazz.rule said:
It's RohinZaraki not RohinZakari..
Sent from my Xperia™ X8
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Changed. I was typing from memory. Sorry for any problems caused by that.
Also, many thanks to all commenters. Made my day after coming straight back from Basket Ball practice. Especially
deedii and fifo171
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LOL!
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Goodnight Much Love
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Nice ROM though

Nice review, you sure have a way with words but noo way was the x8 the S3 of its day. It was a low-mid spec phone even then. The S1 was the S3 of its day.
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Slow memory in Note 10.1 (2014 Edition)?

"ars technica" has put up a very informative review (link to second page) about the new Note 10.1, showing clear indications that the 3GB RAM is quite slow.
The results also show the Note 3 having this problem, but not as much as the new Note 10.1. Many of the results are somewhat underwhelming which I don't feel will be truly overcome by upcoming software updates. "ars technica" in this review also shows attempts by Samsung to artificially improve the scores, the same as they did with the Note 3 (link).
B.t.w.: Many of the performance graphs in these 2 reviews are only visible by clicking the small pictures beneath the results.

Ettepetje said:
"ars technica" has put up a very informative review (link to second page) about the new Note 10.1, showing clear indications that the 3GB RAM is quite slow.
The results also show the Note 3 having this problem, but not as much as the new Note 10.1. Many of the results are somewhat underwhelming which I don't feel will be truly overcome by upcoming software updates. "ars technica" in this review also shows attempts by Samsung to artificially improve the scores, the same as they did with the Note 3 (link).
B.t.w.: Many of the performance graphs in these 2 reviews are only visible by clicking the small pictures beneath the results.
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What a terribly written review.

hairdewx said:
What a terribly written review.
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Meaning: You had to click on some pictures to see all performance graphs?

Ettepetje said:
Meaning: You had to click on some pictures to see all performance graphs?
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The ars technica review write up was terribly done.

hairdewx said:
The ars technica review write up was terribly done.
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The fact that they are taking the trouble to show clear evidence of "benchmark meddling" by Samsung in this review AND (as the only review site alert enough to) raise the issue of seemingly very poor memory performance based on some of the Note 10.1's performance graphs completely escaped you?
Did you look at the Geekbench 3.0 Multicore graph? Did you see how poorly the Note 10.1 performed in that graph in memory performance? Did you realise that beyond "fixable" poor Touchwiz performance this indicates a possible hardware design flaw by Samsung which would not be fixable?
With this knowledge, looking at the memory scores in other benchmarks in other reviews you can see these scores are nothing to write home about. What triggered the very poor performance in Geekbench 3.0 Multicore remains to be seen but other popular devices from LG, Apple etc. don't show this "flaw" and even excel there.

Ettepetje said:
The fact that they are taking the trouble to show clear evidence of "benchmark meddling" by Samsung in this review AND (as the only review site alert enough to) raise the issue of seemingly very poor memory performance based on some of the Note 10.1's performance graphs completely escaped you?
Did you look at the Geekbench 3.0 Multicore graph? Did you see how poorly the Note 10.1 performed in that graph in memory performance? Did you realise that beyond "fixable" poor Touchwiz performance this indicates a possible hardware design flaw by Samsung which would not be fixable?
With this knowledge, looking at the memory scores in other benchmarks in other reviews you can see these scores are nothing to write home about. What triggered the very poor performance in Geekbench 3.0 Multicore remains to be seen but other popular devices from LG, Apple etc. don't show this "flaw" and even excel there.
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Do you like arguing for the sake of arguing? I simply made a comment about the quality of the article you posted. I'm not even talking about the memory results.

Thanks for the POST OP. I don't really get it as a layman, so hopefully someone will explain this to me like I'm 5. Anyways the performance doesn't look too terribly bad. I went with the new 2014 model because I wanted one that's faster than the older model which I'm currently working with.
I never really cared for tablets before until I saw what I could do with the S-Pen. If it wasn't for the S-Pen I wouldn't get a tablet at all. That being said this tablet still seems like a worthwhile investment. I think it's a little odd that they called the article rubbish without really explaining why, but then this is a developer's forum so maybe i just don't see what is obvious to everyone else.

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Do you like arguing for the sake of arguing? I simply made a comment about the quality of the article you posted. I'm not even talking about the memory results.
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Do you like to troll topics with (what proves to be) irrelevant comments? And then criticize the OP for staying on-topic?

gina$zanboti said:
Thanks for the POST OP. I don't really get it as a layman, so hopefully someone will explain this to me like I'm 5. Anyways the performance doesn't look too terribly bad. I went with the new 2014 model because I wanted one that's faster than the older model which I'm currently working with.
I never really cared for tablets before until I saw what I could do with the S-Pen. If it wasn't for the S-Pen I wouldn't get a tablet at all. That being said this tablet still seems like a worthwhile investment. I think it's a little odd that they called the article rubbish without really explaining why, but then this is a developer's forum so maybe i just don't see what is obvious to everyone else.
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I also have the old model and was (am still) looking forward to the 2014 model, which isn't for sale yet over here. It is indeed very nice to see such tablets come into existence where currently you can so far (professionally) only get very expensive dedicated displays to draw on. $550 / $599 can seem a huge sum for a tablet but besides replacing very expensive hardware now available it also opens up a market for creative children, beginning artists and the like. To me it seems very strange that 'graphically oriented' Apple has not yet realized their mistake and caught up with this development. Poor performance of the new Note 10.1 in some areas is unfortunate but given the many strengths it offers it remains a very welcome next step in tablet evolution imo.
Thanks for your response.

Ettepetje said:
Do you like to troll topics with (what proves to be) irrelevant comments? And then criticize the OP for staying on-topic?
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The article comes to quite the conclusion based on quite a bit of conjecture. I can see this discussion will lead no where though.
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gina$zanboti said:
Thanks for the POST OP. I don't really get it as a layman, so hopefully someone will explain this to me like I'm 5. Anyways the performance doesn't look too terribly bad. I went with the new 2014 model because I wanted one that's faster than the older model which I'm currently working with.
I never really cared for tablets before until I saw what I could do with the S-Pen. If it wasn't for the S-Pen I wouldn't get a tablet at all. That being said this tablet still seems like a worthwhile investment. I think it's a little odd that they called the article rubbish without really explaining why, but then this is a developer's forum so maybe i just don't see what is obvious to everyone else.
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The reviewer made a flawed conclusion based on a single benchmark and applied that conclusion to the results of another benchmark. Simply put, there are many more factors that the reviewer did not take into account.
Add to the fact that he skipped or was ignorant about the basic facts of the tablet, for example he did not know the stylus was a wacom and was pressure sensitive. He also makes quite the stink over the benchmark optimizations that the article immediately comes off as cynical and biased.

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I can see this discussion will lead no where though.
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Indeed, and (I) leave it at that.

Knock it Off Please
I see some arguing going on. Please keep it civil folks. Everybody is entitled to an opinion as long as it doesn't turn into a flame war.
No need for it to happen, so lighten up a little please.
Oh, and for general info, benchmark programs can be manipulated to produce favorable results. That's why we only use them for testing changes in kernels etc.
Cheers
MD

Hmmmmm every review mentions the "lag" or the "poor performance" issue on the new galaxy note 10.1..I dont have the note 10.1 yet so I dont know exactly...but the lag that they are referring to in their videos is pretty minor IMO. I am currently using ipad 3 32gb with IOS 7 and seriously it lags like hack..esp when you try to pull up the control center or the search bar...and even scrolling apps is laggy..I really dont understand why ppl make it sound like its a huge disappointment or even a deal breaker...

Because they want to hate on Samsung for not being apple. My note 2 was slow at first because of the bloatware. I did a little research and removed only the things I wasn't going to use and turned off windows transitions and it's now quick and smooth. If you want to talk about cheating at benchmarks look here: http://techreport.com/news/25462/pretty-much-everyone-is-cheating-at-android-benchmarks

thx OP.
slow NAND is a huge, serious issue. if you own a ASUS TF700, you'll understand.
even with Browser2Ram, a lean + mean Scott's ROM, my TF700 is, in all honesty, a colossal waste of money, and next to my Nokia N97, probably my biggest regret in hardware purchase in the last five years. lags everywhere (app drawer, flipping through homescreens, doing pretty much anything, including netflix or playing mp3s). browser is constantly crashing now too, though i'm not sure if that's related.
anyhow, point is: ASUS cheaped out on the NAND, and the TF700 is a joke as a result.
if it's true that the GNOTE10.1 (2014) suffers from the same hardware issue, i think end users will be in a world of hurt. which sucks, because i really wanted this tablet to rock out. as i'm sure most of you know, ASUS is designing the new Nexus 10, but based on their track record with the Infinity, i'm not holding my breath that they won't load it with slow-ass NAND again.
(wasn't slow NAND also an issue with the Nexus 7? or have i got another tablet mixed up?)

AM Radio said:
thx OP.
slow NAND is a huge, serious issue. if you own a ASUS TF700, you'll understand.
even with Browser2Ram, a lean + mean Scott's ROM, my TF700 is, in all honesty, a colossal waste of money, and next to my Nokia N97, probably my biggest regret in hardware purchase in the last five years. lags everywhere (app drawer, flipping through homescreens, doing pretty much anything, including netflix or playing mp3s). browser is constantly crashing now too, though i'm not sure if that's related.
anyhow, point is: ASUS cheaped out on the NAND, and the TF700 is a joke as a result.
if it's true that the GNOTE10.1 (2014) suffers from the same hardware issue, i think end users will be in a world of hurt. which sucks, because i really wanted this tablet to rock out. as i'm sure most of you know, ASUS is designing the new Nexus 10, but based on their track record with the Infinity, i'm not holding my breath that they won't load it with slow-ass NAND again.
(wasn't slow NAND also an issue with the Nexus 7? or have i got another tablet mixed up?)
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Asus isn't designing the neww nexus 10.. It's samsung..
And the DN10.1 2014 doesn't have hardwar issues, some lags with samsung bloat related with TW that will be fixed propably in a next patch. You can see the reviews of early owners on this forum and you'll see that everyone is satisfied with the GN 10.1 2014 tablet

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Asus isn't designing the neww nexus 10.. It's samsung..
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Sorry, but lots and lots of sources seem to disagree with you on this. Looks all but certain that the new Nexus 10 will be manufactured by Asus.

AM Radio said:
thx OP.
slow NAND is a huge, serious issue. if you own a ASUS TF700, you'll understand.
even with Browser2Ram, a lean + mean Scott's ROM, my TF700 is, in all honesty, a colossal waste of money, and next to my Nokia N97, probably my biggest regret in hardware purchase in the last five years. lags everywhere (app drawer, flipping through homescreens, doing pretty much anything, including netflix or playing mp3s). browser is constantly crashing now too, though i'm not sure if that's related.
anyhow, point is: ASUS cheaped out on the NAND, and the TF700 is a joke as a result.
if it's true that the GNOTE10.1 (2014) suffers from the same hardware issue, i think end users will be in a world of hurt. which sucks, because i really wanted this tablet to rock out. as i'm sure most of you know, ASUS is designing the new Nexus 10, but based on their track record with the Infinity, i'm not holding my breath that they won't load it with slow-ass NAND again.
(wasn't slow NAND also an issue with the Nexus 7? or have i got another tablet mixed up?)
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Was never happy with my TF700. I expected it to be an ultrabook replacement. Instead it had such bad nand that it crashed almost constantly for me and could never be used for real work. That being said, you're confusing the issue here as the OP meant the ram and not the NAND. Bad Nand is indeed bad. Slower memory is less of a big deal, especially when you get 3gb to work with on the Note 10.1.
Mehdy_ said:
Asus isn't designing the neww nexus 10.. It's samsung..
And the DN10.1 2014 doesn't have hardwar issues, some lags with samsung bloat related with TW that will be fixed propably in a next patch. You can see the reviews of early owners on this forum and you'll see that everyone is satisfied with the GN 10.1 2014 tablet
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Sorry, but lots and lots of sources seem to disagree with you on this. Looks all but certain that the new Nexus 10 will be manufactured by Asus.
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It's going to be made by Asus. I wish Asus could get their act together. They gave us terrible Nand in like 4 devices in a row. TF201, TF300, TF700, Galaxy Nexus 7. Like Nand that is literally slower than what you could buy at the store 5 years ago. For shame.

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I don't have the device yet, but where did you get slow NAND?
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And that Arstechnica article was a joke.
If you want to understand the memory benchmarks of Geekbench, have a look at this:
http://support.primatelabs.com/kb/geekbench/geekbench-3-benchmarks
And those dude who are comparing against G2 so much forgot that LG itself optimizes for few benchmarks.

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I don't have the device yet, but where did you get slow NAND?
And that Arstechnica article was a joke.
If you want to understand the memory benchmarks of Geekbench, have a look at this:
http://support.primatelabs.com/kb/geekbench/geekbench-3-benchmarks
And those dude who are comparing against G2 so much forgot that LG itself optimizes for few benchmarks.
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1- I agree ArsTechnica reviews are a joke. They should just stick with tech articles. Their LG G2 review was the worst. They made it sound like the worst phone in the whole world.
2-The charts above show storage speed. I thought we were talking about RAM speed?
Why would slow storage even cause lag in the interface?

HTC One (M9) Reviews Thread

1st full review is released today and it's not looking good for HTC, will update this thread with more reviews when released.
HTC One M9 Review - Where are the improvements?
-Based on these pictures, and of course many other photos that we have made, we are not impressed by the camera of the M9. In good light it captures more detail than the M8, but sometimes blur on the right. In low light, aggressive noise reduction leads to a lack of detail. A high-end phone that costs a lot of money should we expect better.
-The One M8 was during the test just under 40 degrees. That is palpable, but not uncomfortable. The One M9 was the same load as much as 55.4 degrees. That is a fundamental difference and after the turning of the test was the M9 so hot that it was uncomfortable to hold him.
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-It is obvious that HTC simply exactly the same screen as used in the M8, but that is not the case. For reasons we do not understand is the manufacturer went for another panel that produces noticeably less beautiful picture. For example, the brightness is lower, although the difference is not large. With a maximum brightness of 474cd / m² of M9 screen is fortunately still bright enough to be still visible in the air.
If we look at the contrast ratio of the screen, we see a big difference. Where the M8 a ratio of 1624: 1 makes note, an excellent score for an LCD, the M9 does not exceed 911: 1. That is to see if you like both devices side by side; the image of the M8 look more impressive. Especially in a dark environment can be seen that the black on the M8 is much deeper; the M9 tends a bit more to very dark gray with a blue touch. Look you then even at an oblique angle to the screen, we see clear color shifting, something we expected earlier in cheaper phones.
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Battery is comparable with G3/Lumia 930, screen is worst than M8 according to them...

That review is so bad that I almost want to believe it was a bad unit..
Will wait for a couple more before getting worried

You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see

rkial said:
You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see
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Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.

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Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.
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As for the underlying SoC, it seems that a lot of the concerns with the Snapdragon 810 remain unfounded, as the One M9 was quite smooth even with this non-final build of software. It’s likely that while the Snapdragon 810 SoC itself is without issue, properly tuning all of the controls in Qualcomm’s big.LITTLE implementation is a much more difficult than a standard aSMP solution. Unfortunately, due to the non-final state of the software we are unable to present benchmarks of the device, but we will be sure to do this for the full review of the device. In general use, the phone remained cool and comfortable to use, and it was hard to really tell if the phone got any hotter than the M8 in practice, even in benchmarks. The One M7 is definitely far hotter in comparison due to its 28LP process used on the SoC in comparison.
From their M9 hands on.

amidabuddha said:
Dude no offense, but looking at your forum history I can see that you have signed up a couple of days before the official announcement of S6, spend a good amount of time to praise the greatness of Sammy, flaming severely Apple and HTC, demonstrating quite good amount of in-depth knowledge without providing any sources (except few posts) and using a lot of marketing methods to influense the rest of the readers with your opinion.
IMHO you are paid and your advise should be not taken seriously
Just my two cents, I am sorry if I am too suspicious, but people do all kind of weird stuff in the name of the holy Dollar
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I had the great desire to second this in that thread as well.
Looks like the OP here just like you has participated in marketing discussions only since his signing up in a Development forum isn't it strange? No ROMs, no Kernels discussions, no mods, just plain prasing on great Samsung.
Lol Sammy guys stop this please, we will all see is it worth once the devices get to the shops and the real-life reviews come as @rkial already said

Thread cleaned. This is a Reviews thread, not a bun-fight. Neither is it a vehicle to bash HTC.
Keep it civil and on-topic please or it will disappear for good.

Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....

SPreston2001 said:
Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....
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Thanks for your great post. Not everyone who's being critical is trolling. I hope people have a more open mind when reading internet comments.
In any case, here are the battery life figures for the M9 since the OP didn't include the charts in his post:

Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol

nabzilla1990 said:
Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol
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At this point, I'd rather take the Note 4 over the M9.

At this moment I'm more worried about all these devices coming out with the broken Android 5.0. Even Android 5.1 produces memory leak problems on the Nexus 6, and all these radio issues and signal loss regardless of the device and software is something should've never happened under Google's guidance.

"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.

Applesexual said:
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam

Adam182 said:
The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam
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Software can fix dull screen? Nope
Btw no word about RAW, why htc is postponing it perhaps the only thing that could help the camera. Htc is acting like an amateur company this year I can't recognise them anymore
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Yes, non-final software is still a possibility because the review was still done on a phone running pre-final software. You can't deny the possibility that HTC is working on camera post-processing and other software bugs now. Plus, even during MWC, HTC employees continued to tell us that the phone's software was indeed not finalised, so there's that.
P.S. Tbh, your little story was interesting to read, but it didn't suggest anything about "non-final software" at all. It was simply an illogical conclusion

Applesexual said:
"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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Did you even read what you posted? It didn't mention their unit having final software or even being a non preproduction unit. You're trolling way too hard. Let the phone get released, then if it has issues you can come back out from under your bridge.
You could also just not get an m9.

Unfortunately where you se some smoke, usually, there is fire.
Lets wait and hope the tested Unit is a faulty one or without final hardware.
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The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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th3 said:
The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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The number of cores went from 4 to 8, meaning that the size of each core probably had to be shrunk in order to fit inside a smartphone SoC.
Smaller cores = hotter cores