Ex Xperia S owner here, issues with Galaxy S4 i9505 KK. - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1. Why the ?%$& is the album art getting displayed in full screen in the lock screen? It looks like absolute ****. Can't seem to find a way to disable this disgusting feature.
2. Why isn't my preference of keeping the lights under the buttons constantly enabled? After a while they just don't turn on anymore.
3. Any way to get something resembling realistic colors on this god awful screen? Jesus christ the screen on my Xperia S was way better than this. The various screen modes don't seem to make any difference.
4. Any way to disable the shutter sound on camera? I mean what were they thinking, making it impossible to disable?
5. Can I get the Sony WALKMAN app and widgets on this phone and if yes, how?
6. What the hell is KNOX?
7. How do I get rid of S Voice once and for all? The stupid gimmick keeps popping up and talking and I don't know what the hell it wants from me.
There's more, but I'm done for today.
8. Suggestion on how to deal with buyer's remorse?
Thank you.

MarkMRL said:
1. Why the ?%$& is the album art getting displayed in full screen in the lock screen? It looks like absolute ****. Can't seem to find a way to disable this disgusting feature.
2. Why isn't my preference of keeping the lights under the buttons constantly enabled? After a while they just don't turn on anymore.
3. Any way to get something resembling realistic colors on this god awful screen? Jesus christ the screen on my Xperia S was way better than this. The various screen modes don't seem to make any difference.
4. Any way to disable the shutter sound on camera? I mean what were they thinking, making it impossible to disable?
5. Can I get the Sony WALKMAN app and widgets on this phone and if yes, how?
6. What the hell is KNOX?
7. How do I get rid of S Voice once and for all? The stupid gimmick keeps popping up and talking and I don't know what the hell it wants from me.
There's more, but I'm done for today.
8. Suggestion on how to deal with buyer's remorse?
Thank you.
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It seems to me that what you don't like about S4 is the software. Sure, it packs lots of crap wares. I too can't stand those so I have to rooted and customized those.
1. Album art is kitkat feature, it exist also in AOSP and no option to disable it.
2. Mine stay on if I chose "Always on"
3. You're used to LCD screen, granted LG G2, HTC One... screen are better, not sure about Xperia S. What I love about Amoled is true black, viewing angle, battery consumption... however color reproduction is slightly off, but far better that Amoled it replaced.
4. Mine; go to camera pp > Settings > 3rd tab > Shutter sound > off.
5. Not sure, it might just like installing app... you gotta search in this forum.
6. KNOX is some enterprise feature... not sure anyone use it. But flashing fw could lead to KNOX warranty void and make your phone lose warranty.
7. You can disable S Voice app.
8. I'm not sure.
Hope some one will give you clearer info on this.

Thanks for trying to help me. I'm sorry if I sound mad in my post but I expected a lot more and was pretty disappointed. And yeah, my main issue is the software, it looks bad and it's not as usable and refined as the Sony UI I was used to.
That being said
1. It's too bad you can't disable fullscreen album art, it looks so bad.
2. Mine also stay on for a while, then all of a sudden they're off and there's no way to turn them back on again unless I fiddle with the settings. What could be the problem?
3. Yeah, screen is just a matter of getting used to. I'm more used to a realistic color palette with lighter whites. This looks a bit off to me, and whites are slightly tinted but it seems there's no way to fix it (on Xperia there was a "white balance app", Samsung doesn't seem to have an equivalent).
4. Why is it not there on mine? I searched everywhere for it, it's nowhere to be found. Maybe it's because I have the stock Italian firmware? Which firmware are you using? On Xperia there were various variants of the same firmware, I flashed a "WORLD" one which had no third party bloat, is there a similar one for Samsung?
By the way, I rooted the phone by flashing some file from Odin, but I'm having issues: for example, I tried to apply the hosts patch with adaway, and it doesn't seem to work properly, also, I can't seem to get Android Commander to detect the phone no matter what, and I tried to install CWM using ROM Manager from Play Store, and that also doesn't work (I still have the stock Samsung recovery that's completely useless), even though ROM Manager says I installed CWM.
And one last question, how do you know if a new firmware is available? Since I rooted and tripped that Knox BS, it now says I'm not original anymore and I'm not going to receive any more updates. Is there a website I can check for firmware updates? My phone is an unbranded i9505.
Thanks in advance.

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Jelly Bean Issues (Please Stick)

So Far I Have Found
- Default Apps Will Not Stick
- Custom Ringtones Do Not Stick
Anybody found anything else?
I have no problems with them, nore do I have it on my s3, but both of those are reported by others on the s3 too (but not by too many people).
I imagine its a mixture of something you ahve installed, or the way your setting them that differs from people like myself who are having no issues at all.
first thing i noticed.
opening browser and looking at a webpage using video (HTML5) and close it. the audio from the video continue in the background although all windows are closed, and only way to kill it is closing wifi.
but maybe its just a onetimer.
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I have no problems with them, nore do I have it on my s3, but both of those are reported by others on the s3 too (but not by too many people).
I imagine its a mixture of something you ahve installed, or the way your setting them that differs from people like myself who are having no issues at all.
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Not out to find fault with the devices , i love it , but these things should work ideally ie. replacing existing ringtones on /system/media, but it doesnt
1-Quick controls on the Browser are not precise and the X button in it either missing or not working properly.,the one on my Galaxi Tab 10.1 are much better.
2-The rebranded stock Swype Keyboard is not good.on my original Mote worked great,I use Swype all the time.
3-On the Lock Screen cant change the location of the Clock while with ICS it was possible,I preffer the clock on the bottom of the lock screen since pulling it slightly from the Napa cover will reveale the time.
4-The music sound with the Earphone is very low and the Equalizer doesnt help at all to raise the volume as it was the case with N1.
5-Both in the Gallery or the Camera app every time touching the picture a manue of picture thumbnales appear at the buttom blocking the view which is very annoying due to limited screen size.
6-Tap and Rotate the Lock Screen to open the Camera application is very buggy and doesnt work all the time.
7-Scrolling in the stock Weather App is instant without any transition or animation which sort of reminds me of my old HD2 Windows Mobile.
So far these..
I found that all my videos which were on the SD card was not being detected by the default video player unless i moved them to the Internals SD
Dont know if this is a fault with my Firmware or everyone
hagba said:
3-On the Lock Screen cant change the location of the Clock while with ICS it was possible,I preffer the clock on the bottom of the lock screen since pulling it slightly from the Napa cover will reveale the time.
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W H A T A portrait wall will look terrible then!

not happy with jelly bean

ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
ziprar said:
Is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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No. And a lot of the changes you're referencing are between Android 4.0.4 and 4.1 and have nothing to do with Samsung's implementation of JB. Some features are changed in the OS, Samsung's apps (EG: S Note, the Gallery), and the behavior of some functions, settings, and apps are different too. ICS to JB on the Note was a big overhaul so I wouldn't expect another one during the Note's lifespan; future changes are likely to be simple tweaks. So things that are gone are gone and things we have aren't likely to change significantly. If you want ICS back search on "Odin" and follow the instructions.
Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?
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Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?
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When you update the new s/w becomes your recovery so if you reset it'll still be JB. You can download the ICS version for your region from Samsung-Updates or Samfirmware and install it via Odin.
Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
jje
Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.
ziprar said:
Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.
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Do what I did, buy an extra pen and a case that will hold it. Make sure that power saving for pen is disabled,
Use the new pen and leave the old on in it's slot. Since you don't remove it, then it doesn't notify, but all works with the new one
Ive got the case already, but the extra pen idea is sweet, also because the original pen while works well feels a bit cheap and plastic(also too small and too thin and has no eraser).
What pen did you buy?
I have noticed much of a change myself
ok so another thing I just noticed, when opening youtube links in opera (my current browser, also useragent set to desktop) youtube app launches and it tries to display the vid and in case with several music vids Ive just tried it gives me a message saying that user has not made this vid available for mobile users or smth like that. now wtf is this bullcrap? this has never happened while i was on ics and also the same vids used to work both in the browser and in youtube app. now I am seriously considering a downgrade
Ive disabled youtube app and now when opening a link I get a message that no application is available to open it (and then opera still opens it). I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
edit: also youtube playback stops when switching to other tab
So I have decided to downgrade, now just have to find original firmware and Iam set.
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ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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Wow, some people are never happy, and just need to complain. What about all the other good things, like better multi screen implementation, more apps for multi screen.
Seriously, all those thiings you described are just petty..."also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down:eek".....I really feel for you...must be awful! Come on man, hardly worth getting your knickers in a twist about is it.
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I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
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You need to "Clear defaults" in each app that you want Android to forget the associations you set.
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Markhypnosis said:
Wow, some people are never happy.
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A couple of people have voiced issues with some of the changes in JB. I share your view; so much is improved that some of Samsung's changes to apps and functions are really minor in comparison. But, look at it this way, some people won't touch a device with an overlay while others swear by them. Different strokes.
You misunderstand, I like updates and I like new things, what I dont like is when features are removed, when I am forced to you use apps which I dont want to use or which dont work (youtube example, alot of music vids are restricted in the app while working perfectly in the browser, haptic feedback, I have it switched off yet the tablet still vibrates when shutting down or when the icons are being rearanged, ok fine but why there isnt a festure to COMPLETELY disable haptic feedback), when completely useless things are added (stupid and more importantly unnecesary notifications eg shutting down, spen removed...)
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work
ziprar said:
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
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You realize that a large portion of the forum has been on JB since November. There have been very few issues and pages of threads discussing the benefits of the new features. If what you're reporting as problems were affecting a lot of people there would have been more posts about them. Frankly, I don't really understand what most of your problems are based on the way you described them. I haven't had any YouTube issues since updating to JB in November and don't remember seeing any reported. So in describing the update as a "streaming pile of crap" you're kind of on your on in feeling that way.
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work
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It clears app association so it does "work." If it doesn't fix your problem that's another thing. You might want to try a hard reset and start from scratch.
I thought the same thing
JJEgan said:
Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
jje
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I hated jellybean on my galaxy tab 2 7.0. But they did a awesome job of tweaking it for Note 10.1. I get serious battery life. Barely notice jellybean being on it. This tablet is fast and smooth. I love premium suite. I would wipe partition and user data and start again.
s pen
Go into settings and down to s pen, in that menu is an option that says something like change what option when s pen is removed... change it to "nothing"
ps I happen to freaking LOVE this jb update!! It's so great night fast...!

Touchwiz features on N4

I came to N4 from the GS3, and while the N4 is a million times better, I miss a few features already.
I can live without multi app windows and cartoon colour menus, but I miss these features in particular:
Blocking mode (mutes certain sounds at night)
Quick toggles in notification bar - Yes N4 has a similar function through pressing the button, but I mean, the ribbon of toggles.
Pop-up play video to watch video over what ever else you are doing - I have one for youtube that works well but the app for floating videos was rubbish but surely this is an easy task for a quadcore phone so I'm hoping there is a way.
I'm currently unrooted and will remain unrooted until I really feel desperate for a root function, so non-root ways if possible, please, although Root solutions will be usefull if there aren't alternatives - I don't flash roms either (because I don't trust myself with the duty and dont have a cheap device to practice on first, if i ever do then i may become a rom flasher.)
Thanks for any help you give
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I came to N4 from the GS3, and while the N4 is a million times better, I miss a few features already.
I can live without multi app windows and cartoon colour menus, but I miss these features in particular:
Blocking mode (mutes certain sounds at night)
Quick toggles in notification bar - Yes N4 has a similar function through pressing the button, but I mean, the ribbon of toggles.
Pop-up play video to watch video over what ever else you are doing - I have one for youtube that works well but the app for floating videos was rubbish but surely this is an easy task for a quadcore phone so I'm hoping there is a way.
I'm currently unrooted and will remain unrooted until I really feel desperate for a root function, so non-root ways if possible, please, although Root solutions will be usefull if there aren't alternatives - I don't flash roms either (because I don't trust myself with the duty and dont have a cheap device to practice on first, if i ever do then i may become a rom flasher.)
Thanks for any help you give
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Most roms already have quicktoggles or sometimes "power widgets" and a number of other similar functionality (slimbean for example has power widget, plus the notification shortcuts that would sit as a ribbon/strip over the notifications.)
Blocking mode, that's called Quiet Hours on a lot of roms, slimbean has it, CM10 has it, and so forth, likewise you can just make a profile switcher since it also has profiles, say you have 'gaming profile' if you want to mute various notifications or alerts.
So they're there, just mainly in custom roms (non-root probably won't give you what you want outside of just a lil power widget on the home screen).
http://slimroms.net/index.php/slim-bean-features

Xperia Z3+ Nougat Review.....

:fingers-crossed::laugh:
YouTube Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjR2PxJmcsk
ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THIS ANDROID 7 ON Z3+.
Advantages..
1. Battery is lasting more than MM.
2. Stamina mode comes with 3 level stamina features.
3. Split Screen Apps are awesome.
4. Heating is less, I think they avhieved that by closing the background apps.
5.Camera app doesnt heatup the phone and lasts open till 5 min( I checked for 5 minutes only may be it ll show heating warning after that, I just dont know about it).
6. Now both the wallpaper and lockscreen can be handled easily with the same option WALLPAPER provided at SETTING app.
Disadvantages.
1. The Icons for the apps CONTACTS, MESSAGING, PHONE, CAMERA are so ugly.
2. One cannot go to the homepage by clicking recent navbar and then by clicking at the clear space of the recent apps menu.
3. While phone is locked the phone doesnt react to double tap unlock like it used to be in MM.
4. While the phone is locked the Icons of battery, network, clock etc are placed slightly lower than the Icons placed in the unlocked screen. LOCKING UNLOCKING CREATES AN UGLY LOOK OF MISPLACEMENT OF THESE ICONS.
5. The Battery icon in the status bar is too weird. ( Doesnt like it look).
6. The Data traffic indicator ( the small arrows up and down are way too small, the indicator which shows below 2g, 3g, H+ and LTE on the status bar)
7. They removed the option of selecting the FOCUS MODE in the camera app.
8. I compared the pictures taken by my phone when its in LP, MM AND N, I must say in LP this phone used to capture photos brilliantly, in MM the pics are somewhat lower than LP. But in N the pics quality are not upto marks. I think thats all because of this focus thing. Now the phone focus the way it wants to).
9. Remove/ Quit apps wisely, I am downloading some apps from UC BROWSER and then I exit the app and keep the downloading in the background but when I cleared the app from the recent apps list just to make my recent app section to look empty, it stopped my downloading too and the APP UC BROWSER was completely shut. (This option is in LP TOO BUT NOT IN MM) So close apps wisely.
11. They abandoned the small apps, Yes they are there but not easily accessible, now accessing small apps are quit pain in the ASS.
12. The apps in the Recent apps looks very big.
13. New quick tiles are good but one cannot direct shut data from there.
Thats all dear Fellas, I like the UI OF MM more than this N.
I THINK SONY JUST BAKED THIS N FOR US IN HURRY.
If I missed anything than please guys you can add that on your comments.
I really think the Android N update is very good for this device. Camera quality has improved in N - try some low light shots - noise is much lower. The UI is very fluid.
For my device not update notice for now...but I see that in Russia update is out in these days...
So, for now I can't comment about N on my Z3+...but thank you very much for this thread...I hope more users tell opinions about this new update...
I would like to learn more about:
- camera is more fast or not, compared to MM? About picture quality seems the two different opinions are contrary..so, other user opinion about camera?
- N as it looks in terms of reactivity on our device?
- Audio? From speakers and in headset? There are some new optimizations or similar?
Thanks in advance to all
I checked xpericheck and Ru customisation and in ARENT THERE! They delete it or what?
kiosk123 said:
I checked xpericheck and Ru customisation and in ARENT THERE! They delete it or what?
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Yes..seems that deleted on every customization...
DomusX10 said:
Yes..seems that deleted on every customization...
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Why? Maybe they add some features (manual camera settings etc.) or this update have many erros....
kiosk123 said:
Why? Maybe they add some features (manual camera settings etc.) or this update have many erros....
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Hope that removed for the reasons you've mentioned :fingers-crossed:
Using Nougat Indian Firmware
Advantages-
1. Camera quality is better
2. Split screen
3. Smooth Ui
4. Performance Enhancment
5. Battery backup improved
6. Brightness dim Issue in sunlight is fixed upto great extent
7. Heating issue is much more solved
Disadvantages ( Huge list but Listing major one)
1. Touch issue (Lackness in touch sensitivity)
2. No manual Focus in Camera Menu
3. Sound Quality reduced (Vibrations in back panel)
4. Can't download apps frome playstore in Roaming.
5. Now we have to double tap to activate data from notification bar
So, its better to push updates for fixing these problems. I hope sony would release updates.
Number 4 and 5 from @ag_themes list are customisation dependent. Both are not present in Russian Nougat that also was on servers before withdrawal.
Also I don't have any touch issues. The sound problems mentioned are the main reason of update withdrawal.
Btw. No overheating is probably connected with reduced usage of a57 cores. Nougat uses them rarely comparing to marshmallow (some report says they are disabled in nougat).
Can someone upload Russian fw? I want to flash it
Using Android Nougat on India Version
Split Screen is advantage (but not many app support however you can force them to)
Slightly more responsive ( like 5 percent)
camera is same (with an added option in manual mode)
audio is also similar
i feel battery consumption when device is used is same ( maybe doze helps when phone is in sleep but i didnt notice much improvement)
My device hanged once (in youtube app). Restarted itself after 5 mins.
Indirect access to small apps ( i never really used them)
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Other things such as detailed (two taps to toggle) mobile data , wifi and bluetooth. Displays important things on settings , NOtification quick reply these are android N features sony didnt mess with
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I feel its an simple upgrade of API . Everything else is similar to MM.
HELP
drigger_one said:
Using Android Nougat on India Version
Split Screen is advantage (but not many app support however you can force them to)
Slightly more responsive ( like 5 percent)
camera is same (with an added option in manual mode)
audio is also similar
i feel battery consumption when device is used is same ( maybe doze helps when phone is in sleep but i didnt notice much improvement)
My device hanged once (in youtube app). Restarted itself after 5 mins.
Indirect access to small apps ( i never really used them)
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Other things such as detailed (two taps to toggle) mobile data , wifi and bluetooth. Displays important things on settings , NOtification quick reply these are android N features sony didnt mess with
}
I feel its an simple upgrade of API . Everything else is similar to MM.
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Is your phone is ringing on calls? Mine doesnt ringing from the day I updated to nougat.
Yes it is.
Make sure you have applied a ringtone and its not in Do Not Disturb mode.
arokososoo said:
Is your phone is ringing on calls? Mine doesnt ringing from the day I updated to nougat.
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Mine did the same thing. After restart it is working fine now.
Can someone share the ftf?
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waseemakhtar said:
Mine did the same thing. After restart it is working fine now.
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Not working even after restarting several times
arokososoo said:
Not working even after restarting several times
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Mine working fine after update. Try clean reflash and install apps from play store NOT from backup.
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[email protected] said:
Mine working fine after update. Try clean reflash and install apps from play store NOT from backup.
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HELLO PRASHAD, I HEARD YOU GET ROOT WITHOUT UNLOCKING BL? Some guy is spreading that news. Is it true?
arokososoo said:
HELLO PRASHAD, I HEARD YOU GET ROOT WITHOUT UNLOCKING BL? Some guy is spreading that news. Is it true?
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Nope, not true. With out bootloader unlock, it is impossible to root the device.
IOVYROOT will get temp root access to backup the TA Partition, but after reboot, the device loses the root access. It is only for taking backup, you can not modify the system. If you try to modify the system with temp root access, your device will be dead after reboot.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
10.0.11.0 - Global
I can't believe how bad the MIUI 10 global firmware is...
I had heard the MIUI might not be to everyone's tastes, so I was prepared for a little bit of disruption...
However it's much worse I expected.
Firstly, a few positive points:
The hardware is top notch. It's a bit heavy and thick, but it's a very comfortable device to hold. I LOVE the hardware.
Visually it's actually quite appealing. The settings screen has a nice "slinky" effect when scrolling hits the top and bottom. There's also some nice animated when apps open and close from the launcher.
That's about all the good things I can say about it.
The worst things:
Notifications are just plain broken. By default, all installed apps only show notification badges. They don't show icons in the status bar and they don't show on the lock screen.
I can't imagine what MIUI designer thought this was a good design choice. Notifications is the one thing that Android does WAY better than iOS, so why MI would nerf notifications to be almost useless is unfathomable.
So after figuring out why notifications weren't working, I went through every app and for every category of each app enabled notifications in the status bar AND lock screen.
Really annoying, but I thought "hey, you only have to do this once, right? Stop complaining..."
But even then the notifications on the don't work right. They show once... when you unlock the phone they all disappear off the lockscreen forever. Consider this example, I set a reminder to for 12pm. It shows on the lockscreen at 12:01, but I'm not ready to deal with it yet. At 12:02 I unlock the phone to make a phone call. Boom notification disappears. Next time I look at my lockscreen, nothing to do. Complete and utter bollocks!
There's lots of bloat apps on the device. Why would I want to use the MI Messenger when I can use the awesome Google Messages?
So I install Google Messages... and guess what... notifications don't work. I changed all the stupid defaults to enable everything, still no notifications.
That's probably due to the very aggressive power management on the phone. Obviously MI disable this for their own apps (so they run correctly), but for every other app the defaults are set very aggressively. Why MI felt they had to rewrite the, already very competent, power management built into Android 9 I don't know... but they did and it' bad. Great you made my battery last a few hours longer, but you also made my phone completely useless...
Back to the bloat, you can't remove OR hide any of the built in schlock, also very annoying.
The iOS like launcher with no app drawer and ALL icons on the home screen, also very annoying.
I could go on and on... The Mi Mix 3 is a beautiful piece of hardware that it completely and utterly let down by abysmal software.
I'm going to try putting the "Unofficial Pixel Experience" ROM on it. If that doesn't perform well I will be selling this baby at a loss, because MIUI 10 is completely unusable.
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10.0.11.0 - Global
I can't believe how bad the MIUI 10 global firmware is...
I had heard the MIUI might not be to everyone's tastes, so I was prepared for a little bit of disruption...
However it's much worse I expected.
Firstly, a few positive points:
The hardware is top notch. It's a bit heavy and thick, but it's a very comfortable device to hold. I LOVE the hardware.
Visually it's actually quite appealing. The settings screen has a nice "slinky" effect when scrolling hits the top and bottom. There's also some nice animated when apps open and close from the launcher.
That's about all the good things I can say about it.
The worst things:
Notifications are just plain broken. By default, all installed apps only show notification badges. They don't show icons in the status bar and they don't show on the lock screen.
I can't imagine what MIUI designer thought this was a good design choice. Notifications is the one thing that Android does WAY better than iOS, so why MI would nerf notifications to be almost useless is unfathomable.
So after figuring out why notifications weren't working, I went through every app and for every category of each app enabled notifications in the status bar AND lock screen.
Really annoying, but I thought "hey, you only have to do this once, right? Stop complaining..."
But even then the notifications on the don't work right. They show once... when you unlock the phone they all disappear off the lockscreen forever. Consider this example, I set a reminder to for 12pm. It shows on the lockscreen at 12:01, but I'm not ready to deal with it yet. At 12:02 I unlock the phone to make a phone call. Boom notification disappears. Next time I look at my lockscreen, nothing to do. Complete and utter bollocks!
There's lots of bloat apps on the device. Why would I want to use the MI Messenger when I can use the awesome Google Messages?
So I install Google Messages... and guess what... notifications don't work. I changed all the stupid defaults to enable everything, still no notifications.
That's probably due to the very aggressive power management on the phone. Obviously MI disable this for their own apps (so they run correctly), but for every other app the defaults are set very aggressively. Why MI felt they had to rewrite the, already very competent, power management built into Android 9 I don't know... but they did and it' bad. Great you made my battery last a few hours longer, but you also made my phone completely useless...
Back to the bloat, you can't remove OR hide any of the built in schlock, also very annoying.
The iOS like launcher with no app drawer and ALL icons on the home screen, also very annoying.
I could go on and on... The Mi Mix 3 is a beautiful piece of hardware that it completely and utterly let down by abysmal software.
I'm going to try putting the "Unofficial Pixel Experience" ROM on it. If that doesn't perform well I will be selling this baby at a loss, because MIUI 10 is completely unusable.
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Xiaomi phone has Xiaomi apps, you sound surprised.... Should of just got a pixel phone
I don't recognize any of these criticisms of MIUI 10. This is my first MIUI phone, I've previously run mostly ROMs based on Lineage, which is pretty close to stock Android. Notifications work fine for me, with the exception of Google Messages which is borked, Textra is a perfectly good substitute and works. The native messaging app does have problems, but with group texts not notifications. I've had no difficulties because of apps being killed in the background, quite the contrary compared to my previous phone with its pitiful RAM, multitasking on the Mix3 is, as I expected, significantly improved, and returning to apps much later almost always results in state preservation rather than a restart. Stock launcher?? Who the hell ever runs a stock launcher anyway? There are a million-and-one alternatives, including the Pixel launcher if you prefer, this being one of the biggest (and multitudinous) advantages of Android over crApple.
I love the phone but can agree that MIUI10 notifications are ****. Totally broken. Over aggressive battery management. I heard they are working on that.
I also think MIUI is... err... not my favourite flavour of Android (to be polite).
Thank goodness for Pixel Experience.
To be fair, I think their ROM is highly geared towards China. That's why they need all the custom non-Google apps.
However that's no excuse for the notifications issue. That's just bad. However I don't think this is a Mi Mix 3 issue... Its a MIUI issue and if you Google "MIUI notifications" you will see people complaining about it in MIUI 8.
Here's Android Police (a really reputable site in my opinion) complaining about it for the POCO F1
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...g-miui-poco-f1/#The_notification_icon_tragedy
Basically notifications are bad on MIUI and they have been for a while. And Xiaomi don't seem able or willing to fix it...
mmm_ok said:
I also think MIUI is... err... not my favourite flavour of Android (to be polite).
Thank goodness for Pixel Experience.
To be fair, I think their ROM is highly geared towards China. That's why they need all the custom non-Google apps.
However that's no excuse for the notifications issue. That's just bad. However I don't think this is a Mi Mix 3 issue... Its a MIUI issue and if you Google "MIUI notifications" you will see people complaining about it in MIUI 8.
Here's Android Police (a really reputable site in my opinion) complaining about it for the POCO F1
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...g-miui-poco-f1/#The_notification_icon_tragedy
Basically notifications are bad on MIUI and they have been for a while. And Xiaomi don't seem able or willing to fix it...
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Of course it's highly geared towards China, it's a Chinese manufacturer who's main customer base is China lol
Only bad in Chinese ROM but that's for the Chinese market.
in Developer Settings, scroll to bottom and disable "MIUI Optimization" and it will work
i killed tupac said:
in Developer Settings, scroll to bottom and disable "MIUI Optimization" and it will work
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Mmm have you a proofs? I mean, i already did it and no positive results.
So just some perspective here, I have a Pixel XL of all 3 generations, and multiple other devices that run stock or close to stock Android. I bought this device BECAUSE I wanted to check out MIUI in more detail. I invested several hundred hours trying to get MIUI to boot on my Pixel XL. I was never able to get it to boot all the way into setup. There are a lot of cool things MIUI does, and there are some annoyances. However, I think we can both agree that the build quality and price of the Xiaomi devices are second to none at the moment. I haven't seen build quality like this since my Droid X and Droid Rzr.
The nice thing is that we should get full TWRP support and once we have a working device tree (I won't lie, I've been working on that and a TWRP build) we can get some open source goodness with a full ROM. If you hate MIUI that much why would you purchase the device? Also as far as manufacturers go, Xiaomi is far from worst about updates and ongoing device support from what I'm seeing. Especially with these "halo" devices.
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If you hate MIUI that much why would you purchase the device?
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There seems to be an undercurrent of "Why did you buy it if you hate it so much?" and "If you don't want MIUI apps, you should have just bought a Pixel", so let's just clear a few things up...
This is NOT me:
I really hate MIUI... but I'm going to buy a Xiaomi phone anyway and complain about it.
This is me:
Huh, that Mi Mix 3 looks really cool... Never owned a Xiaomi phone before... I wonder if I should take a chance...
Oh crap I'm not getting ANY notifications. Wow, this MIUI is really broken.
As I said in my first post, I love the hardware. Unfortunately, in my opinion, MIUI, on the global version of this device at least, is busted. I just can't believe that they would have released something so half baked.
Fortunately, I've installed a custom ROM and waved goodbye to that MIUI nightmare.
pm-2019 said:
There seems to be an undercurrent of "Why did you buy it if you hate it so much?" and "If you don't want MIUI apps, you should have just bought a Pixel", so let's just clear a few things up...
This is NOT me:
I really hate MIUI... but I'm going to buy a Xiaomi phone anyway and complain about it.
This is me:
Huh, that Mi Mix 3 looks really cool... Never owned a Xiaomi phone before... I wonder if I should take a chance...
Oh crap I'm not getting ANY notifications. Wow, this MIUI is really broken.
As I said in my first post, I love the hardware. Unfortunately, in my opinion, MIUI, on the global version of this device at least, is busted. I just can't believe that they would have released something so half baked.
Fortunately, I've installed a custom ROM and waved goodbye to that MIUI nightmare.
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Well, that makes more sense. I haven't had notification problems on the global room, but it's flashed on the Chinese device in my case and it was dirty flashed over the EU rom without wiping data. I'm sure given what I saw with the Mix 2s there I had very briefly that they will sort out the issues on the global rom.
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Almost all of the issues I've had with notifications were down to the combination of Pie/MIUI, and the multitude of confusing notification settings. Once I'd got all the permissions sorted out, notifications worked perfectly with the exception of Google Messages, and the solution to that was to switch to another message provider then switch back again, I don't know why that works but it does (I have to do it each time I update, apparently). The developer option thing doesn't work, all that does is reset all the notification permissions, leading to the tedious task of setting them back again. MIUI does have a learning curve, but it's certainly not a nightmare.
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Almost all of the issues I've had with notifications were down to the combination of Pie/MIUI, and the multitude of confusing notification settings. Once I'd got all the permissions sorted out, notifications worked perfectly with the exception of Google Messages, and the solution to that was to switch to another message provider then switch back again, I don't know why that works but it does (I have to do it each time I update, apparently). The developer option thing doesn't work, all that does is reset all the notification permissions, leading to the tedious task of setting them back again. MIUI does have a learning curve, but it's certainly not a nightmare.
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I can't use Google Messages because I'm on Verizon and they limit mms to 30kb unless you are using an "approved" device or using their Messages+ app. I gave up and just went to that instead. Getting notifications working on that just required setting allow change system settings for the app, enabling notifications in the app permissions thing from MIUI.
gonna echo everything said so far about miui notification settings. every other phone manufacturer i've ever used has ALL notifications enabled by default. it's a much faster task of just disabling any apps you don't want to see notifications from as they pop up. why in the hell would they do the reverse?
other than that, everything about it is top notch. but the notification system. that is my ONE and only complaint about the entire experience. so far. i've only had the phone for three days. let's see what else pops up (or doesn't, in this case)
ps. the only app i have any issue with notification wise after the tedious setup is hangouts, but from what i understand that's been a google issue for a long long time, and not an android issue.
How is always on display working for you guys? In my case, it just shows the clock and date, and incoming notifications are not highlighted or anything
Nooblit said:
gonna echo everything said so far about miui notification settings. every other phone manufacturer i've ever used has ALL notifications enabled by default. it's a much faster task of just disabling any apps you don't want to see notifications from as they pop up. why in the hell would they do the reverse?
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Because everyone wants notifications right. Other than for calls and texts, having to manually disable notifications for all my apps is annoying and a waste of time.
urtv said:
Because everyone wants notifications right. Other than for calls and texts, having to manually disable notifications for all my apps is annoying and a waste of time.
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i find it a waste of time to have to do the reverse. OH and not to mention that if you go into an apps notification settings to adjust something small and unrelated like the sound the app makes or something like that, all of the system notifications get erased, causing you to have to go into the system notification settings fort hat specific app and have to re-enable everything over and over again. this happens with textra, hangouts, pretty much any sms or messaging app. it's literally backwards, the way they do it, and makes less sense than how literally every other manufacturer does it. i don't appreciate difference for the sake of it. there should be some logic behind it, and quite frankly that logic is broken.
with all due respect, of course.
I think that MIUI's idea regarding notification default settings is related with improving battery duration. I agree that notifications is the weak point here. But the fact that the notificacion settings go back to default when running the security application, or sometimes you don't know why, is worst and annoying, because you won't know it untill you miss an important notification because of it.
I came from a Mi Mix 1, and it was all the same...
bursuk2007 said:
How is always on display working for you guys? In my case, it just shows the clock and date, and incoming notifications are not highlighted or anything
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Same problem here! I have my phone since yesterday and comes from a Galaxy S7 edge where i got all notifications on my AOD. But on the MIx 3 i just can see the time and the date and no notifications at all. Is this normal, or do i have to set something in the settings. (MIUI 10.0.11.0 Stabel)
Thanks for any hints!
Philipp

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