Sensor co-processor - Xperia Z General

I saw in this page that the 4.4 xperia devices get this power saving feature(it is implemented).
It can be coded in android 4.3 but for Xperia Z1,Z1 compact and Z ultra and I thought maybe it can be coded for our Z too.
Here is the webpage of this explaining everything: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...e-new-sensor-co-processor-video-code-example/
Devs,please help us get this feature ☺
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This is for Snapdragon 800 devices. We have the 2-generation-old S4 Pro.

Very interesting
Now I know why Intelligent Backlight and Intelligent Call handling will never work on Xperia Z, I've looked everywhere to find why the iEngine used by these apps wasn't able to find sensors data!

niaboc79 said:
Very interesting
Now I know why Intelligent Backlight and Intelligent Call handling will never work on Xperia Z, I've looked everywhere to find why the iEngine used by these apps wasn't able to find sensors data!
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Yes. This is exactly the reason. You can also convert the dex files in the apk to readable classes and you'll see that the iEngine support specifically implements/calls the Co-Processor. And it will drain the battery pretty badly without the co-processor. So, I guess the Xperia Z is better off without these.
PS: I hate to admit it, but the Z has become "old"

alnikki25k said:
Yes. This is exactly the reason. You can also convert the dex files in the apk to readable classes and you'll see that the iEngine support specifically implements/calls the Co-Processor. And it will drain the battery pretty badly without the co-processor. So, I guess the Xperia Z is better off without these.
PS: I hate to admit it, but the Z has become "old"
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=(
Missed by "this" much huh?

alnikki25k said:
Yes. This is exactly the reason. You can also convert the dex files in the apk to readable classes and you'll see that the iEngine support specifically implements/calls the Co-Processor. And it will drain the battery pretty badly without the co-processor. So, I guess the Xperia Z is better off without these.
PS: I hate to admit it, but the Z has become "old"
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The Z becomes slowly old thanks to your kernel efforts
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So this sensor co-processor will not be available for us? I think its time to buy a new device...
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beni8978 said:
So this sensor co-processor will not be available for us? I think its time to buy a new device...
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It's hardware dependent, therefore unavailable to us. The article states which devices have the co-processor and the Z is not in the list.
I read this article myself earlier on and I just knew somebody would ask if we could use it.
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alnikki25k said:
Yes. This is exactly the reason. You can also convert the dex files in the apk to readable classes and you'll see that the iEngine support specifically implements/calls the Co-Processor. And it will drain the battery pretty badly without the co-processor. So, I guess the Xperia Z is better off without these.
PS: I hate to admit it, but the Z has become "old"
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yeah, on top of that, even when released it was using slightly outdated hardware ):

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beni8978 said:
I saw in this page that the 4.4 xperia devices get this power saving feature(it is implemented).
It can be coded in android 4.3 but for Xperia Z1,Z1 compact and Z ultra and I thought maybe it can be coded for our Z too.
Here is the webpage of this explaining everything: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...e-new-sensor-co-processor-video-code-example/
Devs,please help us get this feature ☺
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hardware part is just for snapdragon 800/801
but software part called "application process" also support on snapdragon S4pro devices like XZ.
:good:

Related

Sony SmartAR Technology

The video here tells you what exactly Smart AR can bring on the table. Whenever one happens to use their smartphone's camera to click pictures, this will pull up extra information on the device's screen like anything from virtual objects to images and texts which are otherwise not visible. It makes use of markerless approach where it dispenses with the need of any dedicated requisites for special markers which also includes 2D barcodes. So you'll have all the information displayed over the 3D space in front of you. All that you can see can also be navigated by touching the AR information on the device's screen
Click here to see the video
Source
Whoa. Great find. Thanks for the link.
Only the Japanese Arc officially got it...Let's wait for the developers to port it to the x10 XD
that's cool as hell...
That level of interactivity.
Oh ****! That's awesome!
They use a ARC to show this...
BTW did anyone notice Japanese are obsessed with Pink Arc..all Arc videos from Japan have a Pink Arc..I am sure there must be a hello kitty under the battery !!
O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
OmegaRED^ said:
O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
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Lol...this is (as my 6 year old boy says)
AWESOME!!!
Cant wait to get this ported!!
WOW!! Awesome!! SONY ROCKS!!!
Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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This would be awesome if it can be ported to X10. Hope its not hardware dependent.
something like that is allways hardware depended.
And i dont't think that a 1ghz cpu and a bit of gpu is powerful enough to calculate a waterfall in realtime, for me not possible. (that can my PC-gpu with a power use of more than 80Watt!!
It probably will be easy to get on our phones. There are already normal simple AR apps that work and it probably comes down to the devices CPU and camera
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thunderbox666 said:
Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
Kya bath a bhai saab
zmbutt said:
I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
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Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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thunderbox666 said:
Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
zmbutt said:
Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
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True.... either way looks dam cool...
Cant wait for a port!
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Did someone noticed 14.2.A.1.142?

In PTCRB is since yesterday a new FW certified. Again...
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24328
Question is: would it be released?
I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
eranda84 said:
I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
schickel said:
And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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Only Sony knows (as always)
schickel said:
And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
I guess sony will go straight to 4.4KK...
It could be like last update: 14.2.A.1.114 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.124 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.136 certified and released.
So again: wait and drink a cup of tea
After releasing New Flagship Device they might release kitkat for Z range
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
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Therefore, that it's only a minor number forward from the last fw (136), it won't be anything near kitkat!
Maybe a minor Bugfix or extended update from 136 but nothing major!
Wait until the buildnumber changes to 14.3.X. to guess when kitkat will arrive, just a hint
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Kitkat won't be out before Barcelona - that's 100% and this could go out, maybe it's just some regional patch.
But it's nothing big - that's obvious from build number.
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I hope it fix XLOUD, my alarm is Damm too low, I'm hard to wake up!
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fix
fixing voice and camera grain in low light in latest 136
I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
Tonian1878 said:
i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
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It was a polish carrier presenting the list when the Z will be updated, not the Z1!
The Z1 will most probably be updated first though
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kantk20111 said:
I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
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Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
They are finally listening what we are talking...
And now with premium and elegant device like Z1 (and Z2 in the future) and great software - Sony will be the best choice (for me it always was)
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funky0308 said:
Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
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Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
eclyptos said:
Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
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That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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funky0308 said:
That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
kantk20111 said:
Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
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I would say it's mix, it's a software, O.K but only on some devices which are using different screens and other parts (bluetooth chip and other parts).
It's impossible that you have problems and I don't have if we all have exactly the same hardware...
So the conclusion would be - we are both half right
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Views on Xperia Z

I am currently using S3 and I love the display due to the amoled display. I am however tired of using Galaxy series as I have at least 5 phones which are galaxy.
I used to own Xperia S and flashing custom roms was a pain as I had to go through the whole bootloader unlocking process. Is it the same with Z?
Also I am a little concerned about the viewing angles and bad screen quality overall, is it all true?
This is the only phone that may be considered an upgrade over S3 due to the LTE and a full HD display. Else I can grab S4 but I want to personally avoid it...
Any comments/tips/suggestions are obviously welcome and appreciated.
If viewing angle are something of your concern then the XZ might not be something for you. Beside the viewing angles the screen is just great in my opinion (note: "opinion")
If the XZ you buy doesn't have an unlock able BL then you'll be out of luck.
You can still flash most custom roms, but you won't be able to get another kernel.
Sent from outer space...
I buyed the XZ because it has great design and great specs. And the water & dust resistence is always a handy feature to have.
There are a lot of good custom roms and kernels, and most of them you can flash with a locked bootloader.
About the screen, i think the screen is great. And i don't mind about the viewing angles, it's good for the privacy. :good:
But of course, that's my opinion. You have to make your own decisions
Sold my GS3 last year and got the Xz.
Never looked back however I'm looking to get something new soon as my contract was up in May. Nothing has really caught my attention yet so still happy rocking the Sony. It's a great phone that does not even need rooting.
Go for it.
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Don't be put off by unlocking the bootloader. Do a bit of research, in particular, TA backup, flashtool and towelroot. Once unlocked, the XZ is a flashers dream
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Viewing angles doesn't matter.
Its just wonderfull how powerfull the XZ is, viewing angles give you some private usage and not everyone need to know what you do on your phone, its personal ^^
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After the recent KitKat updates, the Xperia Z's screen has been really great, viewing angles are ALOT better than before, from what I've noticed and aside from that, you won't really get bothered about it unless viewing from extreme angles. Anywhere near head on to slightly tilted will be fine.
So unlocking the BL depends on luck? I never knew that because I never tried it on XS.
shad0wboss said:
So unlocking the BL depends on luck? I never knew that because I never tried it on XS.
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Unlocked the bootloader is not needed so far only if you wanna flash a custom kernel !
i still run on a locked bl and still have the "working" Bravia engine [Now X-Reality] and i dont wanna loose that for sure ^^
Pandemic said:
Unlocked the bootloader is not needed so far only if you wanna flash a custom kernel !
i still run on a locked bl and still have the "working" Bravia engine [Now X-Reality] and i dont wanna loose that for sure ^^
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but for miui etc, you need a custom kernel, no?
EDIT: Also i heard that the triluminos display which is present in the latest Z1 and Z2, it actually gets rid of the viewing angle problem, so i wanted to know if that's something software based or hardware based.
shad0wboss said:
but for miui etc, you need a custom kernel, no?
EDIT: Also i heard that the triluminos display which is present in the latest Z1 and Z2, it actually gets rid of the viewing angle problem, so i wanted to know if that's something software based or hardware based.
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Completely hardware based. I've never seen such a huge difference in a screen upgrade before. Z2 looks great. :good:
gerickjohn said:
Completely hardware based. I've never seen such a huge difference in a screen upgrade before. Z2 looks great. :good:
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but z1 also has that...i was also considering z ultra because it's quite cheaphere but it's not practical.
I didn't make a TA backup before I rooted, which I regret. OTA updates are out of the question. Stock ftf flashing is no problem.
To the og post why not thank people who are assisting you with all your query.
So many helpful post but not even one thanked.
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shad0wboss said:
but for miui etc, you need a custom kernel, no?
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What have that todo with the question in the OP ?
Your question is kinda OT and you can find your answer in the MIUI Rom thread, just read -__-
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kekks said:
To the og post why not thank people who are assisting you with all your query.
So many helpful post but not even one thanked.
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21 thanks since 2010 and nearly 1200 posts, that's why
Edit: he even asks for thanks in his signature
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shad0wboss said:
but z1 also has that...i was also considering z ultra because it's quite cheaphere but it's not practical.
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Are you talking about the display or the kernel/rom?
gerickjohn said:
Are you talking about the display or the kernel/rom?
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The display. And I'll thank people, don't worry...
shad0wboss said:
The display. And I'll thank people, don't worry...
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Trilluminous is just a fancy way of saying it's LED Backlit with better viewing angles, I actually have a Flickr Album dedicated to the color-tinge on some devices where there's a yellowish hue (this between my White balance adjusted Z vs a Z1 without adjustment) and have angled photos as well, they are pre-kitkat, which I feel re-calibrated/adjusted the Z's screen settings to give better viewing angles but still not the best. As for your choice between Z1, Z2, or Z Ultra. Honestly Whichever of the 3 works fine. The Z1 is still very capable as well as the Z Ultra and their displays are quite good.
You can refer to the Album if you think the display is something to worry about. Both devices are on full 100% brightness.
gerickjohn said:
Trilluminous is just a fancy way of saying it's LED Backlit with better viewing angles, I actually have a Flickr Album dedicated to the color-tinge on some devices where there's a yellowish hue (this between my White balance adjusted Z vs a Z1 without adjustment) and have angled photos as well, they are pre-kitkat, which I feel re-calibrated/adjusted the Z's screen settings to give better viewing angles but still not the best. As for your choice between Z1, Z2, or Z Ultra. Honestly Whichever of the 3 works fine. The Z1 is still very capable as well as the Z Ultra and their displays are quite good.
You can refer to the Album if you think the display is something to worry about. Both devices are on full 100% brightness.
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Wow great, which one's Z though? it seems z ultra is costing me a little more so i'll go with Z.

Its not the SD810 that overheats

Well today I installed the slyle potrait app which Sony finaly released, in two minutes I got the the notorious message saying that the camera will close if it keeps getting warm and after one more minute it closed. Could it be that the one to blame for the overheating is the camera software itself because I've never seen the message before and I've done some serious usage of the camera. I'll leave a link to the playstore so you can test it on your own!!! Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.styleportrait
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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Its not only this app problem. Open camera and go to Effects, play with it for few sec and you gonna get message that phone is to hot...
Its actually hilarious that most of companies had time to create window with info about to "hot phone", instead of spending this few minutes thinking: "wait... we just created phone and app that get really hot making it no usable at all... maybe we should fix that? hmmm?"
I would not be mad if companies would spend this 2-3 months getting their balls together and make optimized phone and apps, instead of covering their failure behind window like "phone need to cool down... closing app"
Sad part is that its not only Sony problem, most of phones have this... No one give a flying crap to think about it and fix it...
SolidSnake1976 said:
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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I didn't say that the app is not good actually the effects are amazing but it is so frustrating that after 3 minutes the app closes
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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CosmicDan said:
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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I will share when I find the time to write it my back cover never came loose but I definitely noticed heat fatigue on both the SoC and... Another chip, can't remember what it was - maybe the radio (it was a semi-large chip, second biggest after the SoC). Photos are on my other phone and its flat at the moment, I'll find out when I actually do the guide and look at mainboard diagrams again
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ExCuTioN said:
i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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well i tested it and it seems you were right but still i cant get it, why when both apps (creative effects and style potrait) use around 80% of the CPU, creative effects takes around 14-15 minutes to close and the style potrait just 2 minutes??
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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CosmicDan said:
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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no its not new and its not a case of neglect because i had flashed the app to my phone quite some time ago
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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CosmicDan said:
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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i flashed the app from a mod, the app wasnt meant to be installed at sony xperia z but now sony published the app at Play Store for all xperia (i think some old ones are not combatible). The app had the same issues before but i didnt want to post a thread before since it wasnt officialy combatible with my phone

Sony Xperia X series No Longer Support Small Apps

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_removes_small_apps_from_its_xperia_x_series_phones-blog-18716.php
Another hit on Sony.
So far the only gains you get with the X Performance is as follows..
- predictive hybrid autofocus
- 13 mp front camera
- Snapdragon 820
The z5 is as follows
- Glass premium design
- 4k video recording
- Small Apps for now
- Bigger screen within tolerable range for carry 5.2
Anyone else wanna add something in? I'm thinking of buying a cheaper z5 now and so this x series 1st Gen.
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The 820 is more efficient, so you'll see similar uptimes. I don't like this trend, though, I want at least two days of battery life.
To be honest, I never use(d) them, and they're (after the bloatware) the first thing I remove as soon as I get touch to the system folder.
Also with the Multiwindow function (in-officially) introduced in MM they're even less needed, I can understand why Sony removed them.
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To be honest, I never use(d) them, and they're (after the bloatware) the first thing I remove as soon as I get touch to the system folder.
Also with the Multiwindow function (in-officially) introduced in MM they're even less needed, I can understand why Sony removed them.
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I'm I don't see a multi window function on 6.0.1. Whether it's a future update feature or not. This current phone doesn't have it. So multi tasking is little more limited.
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MGSBigBoss said:
I'm I don't see a multi window function on 6.0.1. Whether it's a future update feature or not. This current phone doesn't have it. So multi tasking is little more limited.
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Yeah, but it's there.
Open build.prop and change
"ro.build.type=user" to
"ro.build.type=userdebug"
Then you can find it in the developer options
KuroTheBang said:
Yeah, but it's there.
Open build.prop and change
"ro.build.type=user" to
"ro.build.type=userdebug"
Then you can find it in the developer options
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Do you need root to do that?
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MGSBigBoss said:
Do you need root to do that?
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Yes, you do
KuroTheBang said:
Yes, you do
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I'm not for doing any more tinkering lol. So that's not a plus for me
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It bad!
MGSBigBoss said:
I'm not for doing any more tinkering lol. So that's not a plus for me
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On Android N it will be available for all users, don't worry
MGSBigBoss said:
I'm I don't see a multi window function on 6.0.1. Whether it's a future update feature or not. This current phone doesn't have it. So multi tasking is little more limited.
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Enabling multi window on Android 6.0 is really easy...
no root required, you just need to setup adb and run:
Code:
adb shell setprop persist.sys.debug.multi_window true
about the small apps i have to say that i never used them. I owned an xperia z1 and now a z3 and when i saw them i thought, wow nice i can use a calculator and other things when i need them, but at the end i really never used em >.<
I own a Z2 and I never used small apps. So for me, this is a positive move from Sony.
I'd like a Z5P if it features a S820. Unfortunately it doesn't.
AlanDS said:
I own a Z2 and I never used small apps. So for me, this is a positive move from Sony.
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I agree totally always been the first thing I deleted, so glad they've saved me the job now
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AndroPlus said:
Enabling multi window on Android 6.0 is really easy...
no root required, you just need to setup adb and run:
Code:
adb shell setprop persist.sys.debug.multi_window true
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not working without build.prop editing...and for edit we need root > for multi window we need root

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