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The bootloader unlock says pressing unlock bootloader will void you warranty.. is it possible to lock the bootloader back in the future and if so will the Nexus One still know its bootloader has been previously unlocked?
Im kinda uncomfortable with voiding the warranty on my 530$ phone...
Why does google even do that anyway? You cant do any permanant damage to your phone by changing ROMs...
melterx12 said:
You cant do any permanant damage to your phone by changing ROMs...
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Tell that to the many people who bricked their G1.
You could try the unlock code and just change "unlock" to "lock" and see what happens. Or, even try and run the unlock one again, see if you get the popup to not continue and see if that relocks it. That's all I can think of.
Ps. I'm not saying either of these options work, they're just ideas. I take no responsibility if you try these and jack your phone.
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Tell that to the many people who bricked their G1.
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OUCH..hopefully, you are not one of them.
you CAN NOT brick your android phone by installing a ROM. you CAN brick it by installing a radio or SPL, which is NOT required in the nexus one at all (since the bootloader itself gives you the option to unlock it)
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you CAN NOT brick your android phone by installing a ROM. you CAN brick it by installing a radio or SPL, which is NOT required in the nexus one at all (since the bootloader itself gives you the option to unlock it)
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I am well aware of this but unlocking is the first step down that road. When it is locked the potential for damage is more contained. (For the record m G1 has never been bricked. I wait a few weeks to let others take the risks before I jump in, which usually saves me grief.)
Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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Wow I was just really upset when there was no "LIKE" button. I'm too used to Facebook...
but yeah same I'm so excited. and wow halfway through this post i just hallucinated a truck sound and ran down stairs and onto the driveway. no fedex truck in sight
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Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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I am well aware of this but unlocking is the first step down that road. When it is locked the potential for damage is more contained. (For the record m G1 has never been bricked. I wait a few weeks to let others take the risks before I jump in, which usually saves me grief.)
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That's not true at all... i'm assuming when you say "that road" you mean the road to "brick-dom" and that's just plain wrong. It's not like your unlocked nexus' spl's gonna go flashing radio's and spl's on its own now. It's all about your decisions, so your decision to unlock your bootloader, is independent from your decision to brick your phone.
Regardless, you couldn't brick the nexus the traditional way even if you wanted to... you wouldn't be flashing any different spls
hiddengopher said:
lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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You are more than welcome to my job! I'm tired of it right now.
hiddengopher said:
lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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im a high school student and at this point in time dont have a job... but i know how to use ebay
melterx12 said:
im a high school student and at this point in time dont have a job... but i know how to use ebay
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Oh Master, please teach us how.
I am guessing that when you unlock the bootloader, it writes something somewhere that can't ever be unwritten, so even if you flashed the original one back, they'd know.
Some clever ROM hacker will comb through the innards of the N1 and will probably figure out what gets written and figure out how to circumvent it. Just wait a few days...
Not sure if its possible
Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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Bump that shiznit
Ya good luck with that. Why would they want to make it easier for you to access the phones bootloader? Unless they are going to sell it with no warranty. I mean really that's like buying a new car taking the motor apart putting it back together with different parts then expecting the manufacture to pick up the bill when it all goes bad. They aren't going to do it no matter how much you beg for it. Even the person trying to make the petition understands the reason for them not doing it. To sell more phones. The general public doesn't mess with or care to mess with their phones they want it to turn on and just work. So what maybe 2% really care to tinker with their phones. Ya don't think they are going to do what your asking for even 10 or 20% of their customer base.
Would it be nice sure..I like to play with my phones and thanks to place like this site I can. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. They are only going to get more and more locked down.
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Ya good luck with that. Why would they want to make it easier for you to access the phones bootloader? Unless they are going to sell it with no warranty. I mean really that's like buying a new car taking the motor apart putting it back together with different parts then expecting the manufacture to pick up the bill when it all goes bad. They aren't going to do it no matter how much you beg for it. Even the person trying to make the petition understands the reason for them not doing it. To sell more phones. The general public doesn't mess with or care to mess with their phones they want it to turn on and just work. So what maybe 2% really care to tinker with their phones. Ya don't think they are going to do what your asking for even 10 or 20% of their customer base.
Would it be nice sure..I like to play with my phones and thanks to place like this site I can. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. They are only going to get more and more locked down.
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Ha. Got anything else to say? Didn't think so. Appears we one.
mattfmartin said:
Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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I don't think so... Otherwise it will looks like a cheap phone....
htc is gonna open up the bootloaders on future phones. we won open bootloaders
rauschkugl said:
htc is gonna open up the bootloaders on future phones. we won open bootloaders
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Hi,
Does that include the upcoming EU Sensation??
no not at the moment. here in germany the sensation is already available and locked. maybe they will open it up some time but for now this is just for future phones excluding the evo 3d. think this also will come with loced bootloader and maybe it will be possible to unlock it some time.
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Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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Check out the good news as stated here : http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
HTC have announced that locked bootloaders will be no more!
Good news. I wonder if they are going to unlock existing bootloaders?
Great news \o/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
Hey congrats I guess. Can't complain about them doing it. It's just something you would think they wouldn't want to do. I was proven wrong and I have no problem saying.
Not trying to piss in anyone's Cheerios, but they probably didn't see nor care about an online petition, especially with only 7000 sigs. That's a drop in the ocean.
Trust me, a company like HTC isn't going to make such an announcement on a whim, it's gonna go through the company ranks for pros/cons, profit projections, etc... The idea would have started internally in HTC well before anyone set up that petition.
It would be interesting to see their true reasons for the decision. I highly doubt it's for "the betterment of the community". They have to think it will increase profits.
Either way, works out great for us. Now all they need to do is open up their drivers, etc.. and we'd be set.
well why have they started locking them now with the sensation and evo 3d?
have you read the post on facebook? i don't think this was a marketing thing and i don't think that they would have locked it up again if nobody complained.
Great news! The best part is that they really listen to people.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-w...b-based-tool?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
New devices will continue to ship with locked bootloaders.
HTC will allow bootloaders to be unlocked using a web-based tool.
This month, you'll see an update to the the non-U.S. version of the HTC Sensation, with the T-Mobile U.S. to follow shortly thereafter. The EVO 3D will follow the HTC Sensation. This update won't actually unlock the bootloader -- it'll lay the groundwork for doing so.
The actual bootloader unlocking will take place via a web tool. You'll have to give HTC an e-mail address and acknowledge that you know what you're doing and promise not to complain when you brick your phone.
You'll plug your phone into a computer with the Android SDK loaded, then type in a device ID token, which you'll receive by e-mail, into the web tool.
Then the unlocking process will begin.
Thoughts?
What about the og EVO 4g?
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they are avoiding the question when u ask htc i mean
.................annoying relly
What a load of hooey. should I forfeit my warranty and insurance to? How about I send a note to my service provider telling them I bypass their tether fee here and there.
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What about the og EVO 4g?
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I have heard that they will not be touching the og evo sadly.
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monkeychef said:
I have heard that they will not be touching the og evo sadly.
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They want us to let go and move on.
Blah blah, crippity crap crap crap.... I knew EVO would get dropped when I finally buy one....
agrabren Kevin Bruckert
The OG EVO will get root... But some patience is required..
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from his twitter account, have patience boyz
as for htc?
i couldnt give three hoots how they decide to do it, revolutionary does the exact same thing without voiding your warranty, ,and you can roll it back to take it in and they are none the wiser, who in their right mind interested in unlocked bootloaders is going to do this?
i literally almost lol out of just how sad that is , you should check out the comments of people, its hilarious
i am dam sure evo will get hacked without the need for this voidyourwarrantybs, the rooting community will beat htc to the punch for this, and for future phones, even the photon got rooted already and that things got an encrypted bootloader, the monkeys at htc can blow all the smoke they want, this is nothing but a Publicity stunt
Check this out. agrabren is still working on root for og evo. http://bit.ly/oG0UUm
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sounds to me like there using the "tool" that was made by unrevoked and alpharevx to do so !!! just saying that its what it sounds like since i just rooted the 3vo
This seems like a less than ideal solution, but at least they're going through with it.
My Theory: HTC leaves the Evo4G locked to drive sales to newer unlocked phones. It's a good strategy.
cnstarz said:
My Theory: HTC leaves the Evo4G locked to drive sales to newer unlocked phones. It's a good strategy.
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It's possible.
But considering the fact that full root has been achieved on the newer devices, I would bet dollars for donuts that root on the Evo will be very soon.
mattykinsx said:
It's possible.
But considering the fact that full root has been achieved on the newer devices, I would bet dollars for donuts that root on the Evo will be very soon.
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I am confident in the dev's that are working on the root for the Evo 4G ..
One of the main guys said they're almost there, I trust those guys ...
HTC is going to make sure that every update they make closes down on all exploits. Who knows, the next 3D update may be unrootable or could take months to figure out.
I can see a future where root = no warranty, possibly no insurance.
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HTC is going to make sure that every update they make closes down on all exploits. Who knows, the next 3D update may be unrootable or could take months to figure out.
I can see a future where root = no warranty, possibly no insurance.
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Sucks for them that due to this Act they can't kill the warranty just because you do something software based doesn't it?
If my USB port fails, it's not because of my ROM.
As much as they might try in court anyone would win that.
Bootloaders should never be locked anyhow. That's like buying a new house but not getting the keys to it. Wtf! If its MY phone , make me believe its MY phone by allowing me to do what I want with it. Long as warranty still covers manufacturers' defects I could care less if I brick it.
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jayare313 said:
Long as warranty still covers manufacturers' defects I could care less if I brick it.
Sent from hell.
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I think that's all we ask.
mattykinsx said:
I think that's all we ask.
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That's going to be a issue. HTC could potentially wait for you to take them to court for a claim on a rooted phone. The burden will be on you to prove that the rooting of the phone did not cause whatever problem you are having.
I don't know why anyone got their hopes up. Htc never even hinted that they would root the og evo. They first said they would unlock future devices, then they included the 3vo and sensation. Now they have pretty much confirmed that all new devices will come with locked bootloaders and you will have to jump through their hoops for the unlock.
They only care about appeasing some with this crap while they lock down devices tighter and tighter.
Don't worry about the evo. People wanna root the hot new device. now that that is done those talented individuals will take care of the og crowd. Communities take care of their own.
@jayare313
More like buying a house and the basement is bolt locked and the breaker box, water heater, and septic tank cover are all down there. You own the house but if something goes wrong you gotta call and ask permission for a repair.
it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.
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it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.
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If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?
Overstew said:
If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?
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i am, when i preordered the device there was no 'developer version' (and there's yet one to be for sale on Samsung's developer page)
when it goes live, i'll pick up one, though it makes me wonder just how much Android developer support will be on the Verizon model. not too many devs are willing to pay full price, the community is likely to be very small.
Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...
droidstyle said:
Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...
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I agree with this. Adam is getting really close. It's very interesting to follow his thread. I wish I knew more about programming and inner workings of the android OS so I could help him out.
Adam's thread?
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Yeah, man. Stick around. Adam is making great progress on getting the bootloader unlocked.
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Adam's thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411
And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411
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Try to refrain from posting in it. Just read and follow along with all the smart guys. Some have already post the "omg you guys are so smart" stuff in there and Adam specifically asked no one to do that. I hope as this link gets out there people can follow the rules.
The locked version will have 10x the dev support Imo. I wouldn't get the dev device. That and you can already flash aosp roms on the locked version using kexec. I think you are making a mistake.
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And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).
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Who cares? If you don't like it ignore it. Simple.
To the op... I feel ya.. In fact so much so I canceled my pre order and switched to tmobile! So happy I did.. I'll save $50/month and have a fully unlocked device. If you aren't tied to a contract still I would consider checking coverage in your area and pricing it out. I knew I would save money but not this much lol.
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Just talked with AT&T for about 2 hours trying to get someway of unlocking the bootloader for the D850. Ended in the expected no. I made sure the tech support person passed up the message of if they don't want people switching to T-Mobile help the very very few people that want a unlocked bootloader. So in saying that I believe that if a huge amount of people bug the hell out of their carrier everyday they might just might help with the bootloader.
I have to disagree with you. Bugging them will be a waste of your time and breath. That tech that you spoke with probably wanted to tell you to go pound sand, especially after wasting 2 hours of his time with this. Did you honestly expect he would unlock your bootloader during that phone call? What were you trying to achieve when you called?
Jesus guy take it easy.
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No I wasn't expecting him to unlock my boot loader during a call I'm not retarded. Just wanted info on at unlocking them. Because I bet you anything someone in that corporation has a way to do it. So there for if a big number of people ask and complain and threaten to switch to tmobile maybe just maybe they would change their dumb ways.
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No I wasn't expecting him to unlock my boot loader during a call I'm not retarded. Just wanted info on at unlocking them. Because I bet you anything someone in that corporation has a way to do it. So there for if a big number of people ask and complain and threaten to switch to tmobile maybe just maybe they would change their dumb ways.
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I feel ya... Im just saying that bugging them wont do anything. I think the best chance we have (if any) is signing that petition that is currently going around. Im sure there is a way to unlock it. I also think that we have a better shot at loki then unlocking the BL. I dont get paid to think though
BTW - I reread my last post, sorry for being a ****
Its cool man. I didn't know about a petition. I know I've only had an account here for all of 2 days but I've been rooting and jailbreaking phones for years. I know something can be done in regards to Loki or bl just wish there was a way to speed things up.
Live chat with a rep is pretty much a quick 10 minute thing. I have no problem integrating it into my daily routine and take 10 minutes of my time to bug the hell outta ATT.
Why dont you guys just get the T-Mobile variant which has the same bands and get it unlocked so you can use it on ATT?
Problem solved!
Because I hate T-Mobile they screwed me over way to many times. Plus i don't have 600$ to dish out right now. Other wise i would haha.
Deleted, wrong thread, sry..