Hi Guys,
Im a new user here, but have been using the site for firmwares for ages. This place is awesome.
Can someone help me with this?
I recently got a note3 4G from UAE (Damam) to india. Its really awesome, except for the lack of firmware updates.
Hence, the fiddler in me thought i should just go ahead and try oin a new firmware.
Previously, i was 'fiddling' with the galaxy s3, which seemed easy enough, but with the Note3, there seems to be a massive divide between regions and firmware versions. I wouldn't want tot do anything that might take away features like the 2K video recording and what not.
I am also getting quite sick of the phone heating up because of some process using the camera (mm-camera-daemon).
Hence, i figured, it might have been fixed in the Kitkat update.
Can anyone direct me as to how i can go about finding the right firmware for my phone, and if i will still recieve OTA updates after an Odin flash (Possibly from another regions firmware).
Thanks a lot!
Keep up the great work!
No one? Really?
I am currently running the BTU NB7 Stock Rom from sammobile.com, this would give you region updates from btu, the uk.
Just flash it via odin the same as you would have done on your s3.
Edit: your device is the N9005, correct?
Also, if you update to Kitkat, you cannot downgrade back to JB.
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Thank you very much celderic.
Finally some real answers. Much appreciated.
What are the differences between the various regions by the way? Is it only the language packs? Could you confirm if this update is safe for me, my AP right now ends with MJ7 (UAE).
Also, i've been reading some bad press about the new update. Would you recommend updating anyway? And will the camera still shoot at 2K?
Edit: Been reading a lot about knox. my warranty is already void, so do i need to worry about it? Also, what are the pros and cons of using a custom rom (like omega) and why arent you using them. I want to switch to 4.4 more so for the Ok Google wake up command - will work wonders in my car.
Thanks!!!!
raahilkulshreshtha said:
Thank you very much celderic.
Finally some real answers. Much appreciated.
What are the differences between the various regions by the way? Is it only the language packs? Could you confirm if this update is safe for me, my AP right now ends with MJ7 (UAE).
Also, i've been reading some bad press about the new update. Would you recommend updating anyway? And will the camera still shoot at 2K?
Edit: Been reading a lot about knox. my warranty is already void, so do i need to worry about it? Also, what are the pros and cons of using a custom rom (like omega) and why arent you using them. I want to switch to 4.4 more so for the Ok Google wake up command - will work wonders in my car.
Thanks!!!!
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Aslong as you only flash official packages from samsung via odin, your knox will remain at 0x0, but as soon as you flash a custom recovery for example, it will go to 0x1 like mine has.
Yes the camera is fine at 4k, i rarely use it though thr file size is too big for me
The CSC code mainly determines where it will get the updates from, my phone was bought as a BTU device, when kitkat first came out i flashed the polish XEO firmware, no problems with it
I am using my own modified version of stock instead of other peoples work, i just didnt like the themes some of the other roms had, and i noticed lots of tiny bugs. Just little things that made me want to put together something for my own use. But ofcourse my phone is rooted and i have no warranty, knox 0x1
I hope this helps feel free to ask if you need any more information.
Edit: i didnt realise you said your knox is already void, i would suggest flashing the stock nb7 btu rom, or even nc2 of another region. To update the modem and bootloader, then flash the latest TWRP recovery, then flash alexndrs latest nc2 rom in recovery it is pre rooted. And when installing from recovery you can set your CSC during the install.
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Ok, i get it. You seem very wise on these matters. And kudos on the modified ROM, i would love to do the same if i knew how.
Let me take you though the full story, and then you can advise me on what i should do.
I live in India. A friend of mine bought the note3 for me from the UAE (Damam). He was told that he would have to use it with a uae local sim card for a few days there to 'unlock' it, after which, he could use it anywhere (Seriously, is that the best you can do Samsung?). Anyway, he did so, and all worked perfectly. I am using it just fine (more than just fine, its awesome) here in India. Also, since i am not in the UAE, warranty is void. Thats why i mentioned the knox bit since it seems that it will makes no difference to my life.
Now, there are couple of things which are bugging me with the update.
1) Regional differences - what are the differences. Apart from the CSC, the PDA files also seem to be named differently. Why?
2) Is 4.4 really worth it (Since downgrading is an impossibility after that)? I've heard battery life issues and what not. Are you facing these issues as well? Currently, on 4.3, im not having any battery problems, but some process called mm-camera-daemon keeps heating up the camera area on the phone. I was considering buying a portable mini fire extinguisher a few weeks back, but then i thought i might look silly carrying it around I was also hoping that the "Ok Google" command works, but am not clear if samsung has allowed it over sVoice.
3) If i update, will my phone get Sim locked again?
4) Custom Roms - Will i be able to come back to the official roms later if required and recieve OTA updates?
5) Modem and bootloader - I am in india anyway, so the existing modem doesnt apply to me anyway (even though it works). Still fine?
Thanks again!
there is not any update available for your region ( Dubai )
you can use another region
Also, how do i backup the efs without rooting it first? or is it safe for me to just go ahead with a odin update to official 4.4.2?
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Alright! Just to keep you updated, i did it!
used the UK BTU firmware you provided and flashed with odin, whilst holding tightly onto my chair.
Booted up, android is upgrading nonsense... etc etc.All working fine.
However, the "Ok Google" command doesnt work, i've read up everywhere about what to do, but nothing i do will make it work, works when the screen is on the lockscreen though.
Anyway, SVoice is going to end samsung one day.
Is there any point in shifting to a custom rom now? Or am i good with just rooting (will i still get updates)?
raahilkulshreshtha said:
Ok, i get it. You seem very wise on these matters. And kudos on the modified ROM, i would love to do the same if i knew how.
Let me take you though the full story, and then you can advise me on what i should do.
I live in India. A friend of mine bought the note3 for me from the UAE (Damam). He was told that he would have to use it with a uae local sim card for a few days there to 'unlock' it, after which, he could use it anywhere (Seriously, is that the best you can do Samsung?). Anyway, he did so, and all worked perfectly. I am using it just fine (more than just fine, its awesome) here in India. Also, since i am not in the UAE, warranty is void. Thats why i mentioned the knox bit since it seems that it will makes no difference to my life.
Now, there are couple of things which are bugging me with the update.
1) Regional differences - what are the differences. Apart from the CSC, the PDA files also seem to be named differently. Why?
2) Is 4.4 really worth it (Since downgrading is an impossibility after that)? I've heard battery life issues and what not. Are you facing these issues as well? Currently, on 4.3, im not having any battery problems, but some process called mm-camera-daemon keeps heating up the camera area on the phone. I was considering buying a portable mini fire extinguisher a few weeks back, but then i thought i might look silly carrying it around I was also hoping that the "Ok Google" command works, but am not clear if samsung has allowed it over sVoice.
3) If i update, will my phone get Sim locked again?
4) Custom Roms - Will i be able to come back to the official roms later if required and recieve OTA updates?
5) Modem and bootloader - I am in india anyway, so the existing modem doesnt apply to me anyway (even though it works). Still fine?
Thanks again!
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1) There is a region unlock app by chainfire, you need to be rooted though.
2) I am having a very good experience using 4.4 also if i am not mistaken the mm-camera-daemon raises the cou frequency when using the camera, i did see a fix posted online recently that will be included in the next update from google, after 4.4
3/4) To get back to an official rom all you have to do is flash the package via odin. For sim locking, see the app by chainfire.
5)as you are on JB currently it will work on other JB firmwares, im not shre if it will work on KK though i have never tried. Just updated and never had to go back.
raahilkulshreshtha said:
Also, how do i backup the efs without rooting it first? or is it safe for me to just go ahead with a odin update to official 4.4.2?
EDIT:
Alright! Just to keep you updated, i did it!
used the UK BTU firmware you provided and flashed with odin, whilst holding tightly onto my chair.
Booted up, android is upgrading nonsense... etc etc.All working fine.
However, the "Ok Google" command doesnt work, i've read up everywhere about what to do, but nothing i do will make it work, works when the screen is on the lockscreen though.
Anyway, SVoice is going to end samsung one day.
Is there any point in shifting to a custom rom now? Or am i good with just rooting (will i still get updates)?
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If there are certain apps you would like to remove from the system partition i would suggest alexndrs rom as it has everything you have currently.
Also the TWRP 2.7 recovery is working well for me. You will need to flash that in odin to install the other rom on your phone, same button combo to get to recovery and download mode as your s3 was.
As for efs backups i found a good aroma script, let me find it i will edit when when i have it.
Edit: You will meed TWRP Recovery for this, your knox will go to 0x1 as mine has from flashing the recovery though, just make sure you want too. But here is what you need to flash in TWRP and follow the onscreen instructions to backup the efs for your n9005, backup is about 14mb when finished i think, so make sure. I uploaded it because i couldnt find the thread - http://uppit.com/y9fwqktntlei/EFS_Backup_restore_Aroma.zip
Edit: i hope i have answered everything you asked, sort of rushing to cook dinner whilst typing this found the thread for the aroma efs backup tool too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611903
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celderic said:
1) There is a region unlock app by chainfire, you need to be rooted though.
2) I am having a very good experience using 4.4 also if i am not mistaken the mm-camera-daemon raises the cou frequency when using the camera, i did see a fix posted online recently that will be included in the next update from google, after 4.4
3/4) To get back to an official rom all you have to do is flash the package via odin. For sim locking, see the app by chainfire.
5)as you are on JB currently it will work on other JB firmwares, im not shre if it will work on KK though i have never tried. Just updated and never had to go back.
If there are certain apps you would like to remove from the system partition i would suggest alexndrs rom as it has everything you have currently.
Also the TWRP 2.7 recovery is working well for me. You will need to flash that in odin to install the other rom on your phone, same button combo to get to recovery and download mode as your s3 was.
As for efs backups i found a good aroma script, let me find it i will edit when when i have it.
Edit: You will meed TWRP Recovery for this, your knox will go to 0x1 as mine has from flashing the recovery though, just make sure you want too. But here is what you need to flash in TWRP and follow the onscreen instructions to backup the efs for your n9005, backup is about 14mb when finished i think, so make sure. I uploaded it because i couldnt find the thread - http://uppit.com/y9fwqktntlei/EFS_Backup_restore_Aroma.zip
Edit: i hope i have answered everything you asked, sort of rushing to cook dinner whilst typing this found the thread for the aroma efs backup tool too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611903
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Wow. You are a GOD!
Cant remember the last time someone put time out to help out like this.
All seems well, and im all set to flash TWRP.
Once question though, is it possible that the UK modem is causing connectivity losses here in india? I seem to be loosing my network (have network issues at my workplace, but not sure if this is because of the new modem. Maybe its psychosomatic.) If so, should i flash some other regions firmware before the final alexandr rom?
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Edit: I installed alexndr rom!!!! Dont see much difference though. How do i make ok google work while the phone is off?
Alright! 3 hours with the new firmware. Everything works. I even managed to uninstall SVoice. But 2 things:
1) Ok Google command is still not working. Do i need a different ROM where samsung apps are not included?
2) The EFS tool you mentioned : Does it do anything different from the TWRP efs backup option?
Also, have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
Thanks mate!
raahilkulshreshtha said:
Wow. You are a GOD!
Cant remember the last time someone put time out to help out like this.
All seems well, and im all set to flash TWRP.
Once question though, is it possible that the UK modem is causing connectivity losses here in india? I seem to be loosing my network (have network issues at my workplace, but not sure if this is because of the new modem. Maybe its psychosomatic.) If so, should i flash some other regions firmware before the final alexandr rom?
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Edit: I installed alexndr rom!!!! Dont see much difference though. How do i make ok google work while the phone is off?
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Anytime other people may find this thread useful. Just sharing what i have learnt from this device, i have owned it since christmas.
In the alexndr thread, did you flash the latest nc2 modem via odin? You will have to shut down your phone, do the button combo for download mode then flash it, it is in the first post of his thread, this may help. Also the bootloader if you havent (i dont think this needs to be updated, but i have anyway) flash the modem and bootloader seperately
I will try and look up the ok google command, i have never used it. I try to use just the essentials for best battery life and speed
raahilkulshreshtha said:
Alright! 3 hours with the new firmware. Everything works. I even managed to uninstall SVoice. But 2 things:
1) Ok Google command is still not working. Do i need a different ROM where samsung apps are not included?
2) The EFS tool you mentioned : Does it do anything different from the TWRP efs backup option?
Also, have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
Thanks mate!
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The reason i gave you that to flash in recovery is because i have had problems restoring backups in twrp, apparently there is an update coming soon to fix this, but better to be safe and have 2. Put them on your pc or somewhere safe.
I did use the last version of x-note a few weeks ago(been updated since) but i did not like it, too many features that are useless for my daily usage. I think other users favour that rom though.
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celderic said:
Anytime other people may find this thread useful. Just sharing what i have learnt from this device, i have owned it since christmas.
In the alexndr thread, did you flash the latest nc2 modem via odin? You will have to shut down your phone, do the button combo for download mode then flash it, it is in the first post of his thread, this may help. Also the bootloader if you havent (i dont think this needs to be updated, but i have anyway) flash the modem and bootloader seperately
I will try and look up the ok google command, i have never used it. I try to use just the essentials for best battery life and speed
The reason i gave you that to flash in recovery is because i have had problems restoring backups in twrp, apparently there is an update coming soon to fix this, but better to be safe and have 2. Put them on your pc or somewhere safe.
I did use the last version of x-note a few weeks ago(been updated since) but i did not like it, too many features that are useless for my daily usage. I think other users favour that rom though.
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The NC2 modem and bootloader is in the UK BTU Official update right? Yup, i did that.
Also, apparently, since there is a core on the phone dedicated to system services, the Ok Google command doesnt take much juice to run. Its quite neat. Svoice apparently does eat up quite a lot of battery, but then again, thats what you get when you name something 'Svoice'... Seems like they are trying very hard to piss off apple.
You should try the Google Experience System (or whatever its called). I was using it on the s3 inside my car/for alarms with voice commands. Quite convenient and accurate (even with our indian names to call here) and i havent really faced any issues with a false startup till now on the s3.
Will do the efs thing tomorrow. Thanks for the warning on TRWP.
Would you know of any other ROM which completely boycotts samsungs propitiatory apps?
Will flashing official firmware of another country void my warranty
hi I have a n900 from Dubai, and have flashed KSA csc firmware. My KNOX is 0x0. will it be serviced for problems if I send it to Dubai. I have lost my iemi and baseband.
Can I get official update of lollipop on manually installed kitkat?
I have Note 3. I have manually installed Lollipop. Now it restarts automatically once or twice a day. How i can i Solve this problem?
I was thinking of to downgrade back to kitkat, but will i get official update of lollipop on the manually installed kitkat?
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hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
linx1287 said:
hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
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Samsung issue a 24month warranty on the Note 3 (maybe country specific?) -
If KNOX isn't an issue for you and you do not mind tripping it, the CF-Auto is the way to go.
RDLV is complicated if you're lazy, but it does preserve KNOX status depending on your bootloader version, put in #*1234# into your dial pad and post the results. We can know if you can use RDLV.
However, if you want to flash a Custom ROM, then you will need a custom recovery, which will trip your KNOX (can't be done without) - on the Android dev section and Orginal Android dev section (in this sub forum) are some Custom ROMs and the instructions on how to do so.
I have used X-Note, Crash and am currently using AllianceROM, but there are a few others.
Just be careful with custom kernels until you're pretty confident cause you can bootloop and ruin your EFS quite easily (it is fixable 99% of the time tho, script is on here also)
EDIT : All you need is here pretty much
thank you for your reply & these are the stats
AP: N9005XXUDMJ6
CP: N9005XXUDMJ4
CSC: N9005EVRDMJ4
also RDLV is way too complicated for me & besides i do plan to install a custom recovery so i think that defeats the point ....since you seem to have tripped knox, there hasnt been any kind of system issue i hope? this whole knox business gave me cold feet when i read about it...but so far as i can see..its just a flash counter.... could you tell me the tools i need to get started with? i already downloaded the usb drivers & odin 3.09..is there anything else i should need?
p.s. i was reading about "before or later MJ7 4" whatever...& i was wondering which of these was it refering to? ap? thank you
Once you trip the knox counter it makes no difference to the phone except not being able to use knox containers, and of course the warranty which you know. -- if you have the drivers and odin. Go grab cf-autoroot, run it thru odin and voila all done, similar for twrp or Cwm which ever you choose as your custom recovery (I use twrp) flash in odin and that's it all set.
Just make sure and I can't stress this enough, that you flash the right ROM for the N9005, and N900 doesn't work. - avoid doing restores with twrp for now also when you do a back up, some issues have arose recently and not sure of they're resolved or not yet.
Have fun man, just read everything about the ROM etc before you flash the odd one has FC's or NFC issues
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ok so backing up & restoring with recovery is, for the time being, a no no? yes i will make sure to see if the roms are made for n9005 only....i will probably start off with omega roms as they are the 1st choice i had when i started modding the s3 ....thank you soo much mate for all the info...1 last thing to clear up is i am reading on developers talking about MJ or MK or whatever it is....are they talking about the build number i find in Settings/About??
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
linx1287 said:
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
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Yeah yours is unbranded, only thing that may/will apply to you is region lock (which unless you're leaving the country your purchased your phone in isn't an issue at the start.
Although I see your CSC is EVR (if I recall correctly that is EE UK's firmware on board)
EDIT: Yes MK/ML are build numbers
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
linx1287 said:
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
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Yup can go forwards. EVR (EE aka Orange/T-Mobile) have unlocked phones so yeah you won't have region lock. Which means yours is unbranded but carrier unbranded.
As for firmware, it depends on what region you are using? And what country you are in (you could use BTU (also UK, unbranded but EVR is ok also) - You are **now I say this depending on your country/region** OK on MJ7 or MK2 IF you upgrade since you're using a UK based ROM/CSC your network obviously supports it. However battery life is better on lower than MJ6. So it's your choice really.
Most custom ROMs are MK2 or ML2 atm I think, - Not sure if any upgrade your bootloader to MJ7 (if they do, you can't roll back any lower currently)
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
linx1287 said:
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
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As long as your bootloader doesn't go to MJ7 - that firmware is OK, If your bootloader updates ( I think it may with the custom ROM) you can't roll back to MJ6, you can go to MJ7 or MK2 via BTU which will work for you since EVR works.
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
linx1287 said:
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
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You can drop back as far as MJ7 ( I have at least when I've returned to stock due to mess ups) my build is MK2 atm
the bootloader only goes to MJ7 (last I checked, If it has changed then mine still lets me roll to MJ7)
csc seems a very complicated mess...GOD when did the mod friendly samsung go this crazy? the s3 was the most fun thing to mod...now this feels more complicated then Sony's!! :'( since my csc is EVR...is it possible to put BTU? i saw someone post this but didnt get any replies... http://www.usofttech.com/t128991.html
OH CRAP you said this BTU already...sorry my bad.... just trying to absorb all this
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
linx1287 said:
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
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You can CF root straight away, - since you're triggering KNOX anyway it won't affect you. Then on with custom recovery etc, just keep MJ7 as your stock back up on your PC just incase. and IF you run into any issues with EFS (bootloops/no signal/wifi/baseband etc) use THIS It has saved me and quite a few others.
EDIT: And no problem man, glad to help, we all start somewhere with new devices
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
linx1287 said:
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
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I use 3.07 personally - and flash using PDA -- Use the one with CF root if you're unsure
the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
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the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
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TWRP has issues *sometimes* there's a few posts about it around, I personally have had no problems and use TWRP fine, but I mentioned it because what works for one, doesn't always for another.
As for EFS backup, keep it just incase -- IT seems Android can rebuild the EFS again with that fire script. -- It's handy though, gotten a few out of the crapper including myself
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
bazzertron said:
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
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If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
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If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
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Thanks for the quick reply radicalisto, to be honest I'm ready to move away from touchwiz so a custom ROM sounds like a good solution to me. Choosing one is the conundrum. Are any of them more stable/full featured than the rest? I would appreciate any advice about a ROM to choose.
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
If you are on 4.3 still and fancy CM11 -- Two ROMs you should try are temasek's CM11 + Yank555's kernel (amazing pal) - Or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel (Just as good as temasek's) both are packed with great features, awesome battery life and generally just great. However you may or may not know, CM doesn't support SPen functions, you'd have to use GMDSPen or another alternative.
EDIT: Little side note, again not sure if you are aware.. if you flash Kitkat 4.4.2 your bootloader upgrades so you cannot use CM, as it runs on 4.3's bootloader, there is no downgrade option either currently.
Not that I'm so concerned about the CM bootloader using 4.3, but would I be safe in assuming that the CM team will have to eventually switch to the 4.4 bootloader?
radicalisto said:
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
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Well you're allowed to tell me as I was asking to be swayed...
I'm thinking I'm going to try x-note first as it seems to be the most popular and I'm guessing it's that way for a reason.
Yeah CM team are working on it now from what I have read, I'm using X-Note V.8 with CivZ KatEngine 2.0 kernel
Hello Guys
Well, let me get straight to the point. After my old rom (Revolution HD3) was draining my battery pretty fast, i decided to update to 4.4.2. Well, i downloaded the latest 4.4.2 for switzerland from sammobile.com. I flashed it and it somehow was all laggy and i had fc's the whole time. After some time i was able to use the phone anyway, but it was laggy. And the problem was that my 3G connection was EXTREMELY slow. I got connection time outs the whole time and wasnt able to download anything. Well, i thought it was the rom i flashed trough odin, so i downgraded to 4.2.2, my original rom, and updated trough KIES. The rom wasnt laggy anymore, but the 3g/4g was slow. I tried different Modems and Kernels. Nothing Helped. I then decided im going back to a custom rom but the flash failed. Then i tried another rom and it failed again. So i thought it may was cause i was on 4.4.2 and tried to flash a custom rom that was 4.2.2. I then tried to reflash my stock rom trough odin, and it FAILED. And that's how i bricked my phone. I can still enter Download Mode, but can't enter the recovery anymore. What do i do? I'd like to solve both problems.
Thanks guys
Btw: I've got an I9505
I assume you didn't wipe anything before you flashed stuff? Thats like rule number 1 to do.
You can try flashing a recovery true Odin.
Hej Guys
Um.. Just to let you guys know, it is possible to downgrad to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2. I just did it this morning and had sucess. But the problem with the really slow internet connction still is here, when im on a 4.4.2. And, it is the same with custom roms running 4.4.2. I tried different kernels and modems, nothing helped so far. As soon as i was back to 4.2.2 it had the usual connection speed. I called my provider and also called samsung itself. Obviously, they both told me to bring the phone back for garantuee. But well, as i know it's a software problem and not hardware, i wont do that. So can you guys help me? What should i do next? Actually im back on 4.2.2. Thanks
Edit: Oh, and ofc, i did everything like wiping/factory resetting, wipping preoload etc. It's not my first time flashing.
It's not possible to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2! End of..
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Are you serious dude? Im running 4.2.2 right now. What is your point?`I didnt even ask about it. I asked about a solution to the problem that i get slow 3G/4G on my I9505 when running 4.4.2. If you want a proof Pic about it running 4.2.2, i can give you one. But i dont really get what your point is.
Hang on hang on hang on, it is common knowledge that you cannot downgrade from official samsung 4.4.2 to official samsung 4.2.2 because in odin you will get failure at aboot.bin because you cannot downgrade bootloader.
How ever what would be really good is instead of just trying to say it then jumping out saying what's your point, we'll my friend the point is, it would be advantageous to everyone in the entire samsung galaxy s4 i9505 community if you can tell everyone how you did it.
My perspective is your doing a bit of flaming.
Pictures really won't prove a whole lot as anyone can do some build.prop edits and show different rom name and version.
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Well, if it sounded like flame to you, it wasnt. I didnt create this thread to flame others. But i wasnt kidding saying that i downgraded to 4.2.2. Here how i did it:
Was running 4.4.2 (I9505XXUFNB9)
Flashed TWRP recovery.
Flashed custom Rom 4.2.2, which FAILED!
Flashed Official 4.2.2 trough odin, which FAILED!
Flashed TWRP recovery again, since it was somehow damaged from the flash before
Flashed Wanamlite 4.4.2
Flashed Custom Rom 4.2.2
Flashed Official 4.2.2 with succes.
Im not sure what part of those flashes were essential, but i have no reason for liying to you. What would be the perks if i did?
But now again BTT, Did anyone else have that problem of slow interenet connection? Or is it just me? Maybe some ideas?
Regarding slow Internet maybe it's your carrier with issues.
Maybe the downgrade back to 4.2.2 has created issues in its self. Have you checked your baseband matches bootloader and build?
A problem we have is we can't see the version of the 4G modem (non-hols) so that might be also an issue.
When you flashed back did you do a factory reset?
In regards to downgrade do you still have the Knox bootloader?
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Well, i called my operator and the girl on the phone said that some people already called with the same issue, but its not on their side. It's a problem with the update samsung released. After the downgrade i had my Knox Bootloader and everything worked like it always did.
Yesterday Sammobile released a new ''rom'' for my country. Downloaded it, flashed it and it works great now. I have a bit of a fast battery Drain, but the problem with the slow internet seems to be fixed.
Again: 4.2.2 worked perfectly after downgrade. It had no issue, No FC nothing at all. Maybe i was lucky? No idea, but im happy my 4.4.2 works now
Thanks anyway for your help guys
Edit: Yeah, my bootloader matched both baseband and build.
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If you had done your homework, you would know that in almost all cases Samsung repairs it even with Knox set to 0x1. They even publicly stated it in the Netherlands that they will repair your phone even with custom roms.
And you don't know the law in Switserland. Nor do I. So you can't say that in Switserland his rights are voided by flashing.
If Samsung doesn't give you the warranty, then you still have your consumer rights in the European Union (not that Switerland is in it). No flashing, modding or other chances decleine you your rights if it's not related to a hardware failure. In the countries that you and I live in, it will never void your rights if the damage is not related to flashing or modding.
So well, i think that in switzerland they actually WONT repair it if you flash it, but i aint sure about that, since i never had to send it to repair. But anyway, it was only a software problem on their side. They released another version for switzerland and it seemed to have fixed the problem. I have a bit more of a battery drain, but i actually think im just too used to some other custom roms. Anyways, thanks for the help guys
I thought I would never have to resort to modding or rooting my phone but this latest lollipop update is driving me bonkers.
Data toggling is removed, some of my apps don't work now, and notifications on the lock-screen are annoying vs the nice small icons in the top bar in kitkat.
I am a complete noob to flashing or modding and am trying to figure out my options.
What is rom? what is a kernel? is the same? what is a bootloader?
Can someone recommend me a good rom to use on Wind Note 4 that is currently unrooted? Will I need to root before I install a rom or after?
ttothel said:
I thought I would never have to resort to modding or rooting my phone but this latest lollipop update is driving me bonkers.
Data toggling is removed, some of my apps don't work now, and notifications on the lock-screen are annoying vs the nice small icons in the top bar in kitkat.
I am a complete noob to flashing or modding and am trying to figure out my options.
What is rom? what is a kernel? is the same? what is a bootloader?
Can someone recommend me a good rom to use on Wind Note 4 that is currently unrooted? Will I need to root before I install a rom or after?
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You'll need rooted device to flash a custom rom. A custom rom replaces your devices android operating system. Currently, CyanogenMod is the most popular custom rom. Your only option is either to root the device and enjoy the full control over your phone or downgrade to kitkat.
But crynagen mod is not supported on note 4? It is not listed as a supported device on the website or am I missing something? Does a Rom remove android or just tweak it? Will I lose s pen functions with crynagen mod? Is cryogen mod based on lollipop or kitkat?
ttothel said:
I thought I would never have to resort to modding or rooting my phone but this latest lollipop update is driving me bonkers.
Data toggling is removed, some of my apps don't work now, and notifications on the lock-screen are annoying vs the nice small icons in the top bar in kitkat.
I am a complete noob to flashing or modding and am trying to figure out my options.
What is rom? what is a kernel? is the same? what is a bootloader?
Can someone recommend me a good rom to use on Wind Note 4 that is currently unrooted? Will I need to root before I install a rom or after?
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the only thing you need to do is be able to READ, use the SEARCH BAR, www.google.com , and trust me then everything would make sense and you'll learn, cheers:fingers-crossed:
What is Android ROM (Android Read Only Memory)?
A file containing the executable instructions (a system image) of an Android OS and affiliated apps. The "stock ROM" comes installed on the phone or tablet, while a "custom ROM" comes from a third party. The custom ROM is either a uniquely modified OS, such as Cyanogen, or a stock version made available for older devices or for new devices before the vendor release date (source: pcmag encyclopedia).
What is Kernel?
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In computing, the kernel is a computer program that manages I/O (input/output) requests from software, and translates them into data processing instructions for the central processing unit and other electronic components of a computer. The kernel is a fundamental part of a modern computer's operating system (source: wikipedia, image source: androidcentral).
What is a bootloader?
Bootloader is a piece of code that runs before any operating system is running. Bootloader are used to boot other operating systems, usually each operating system has a set of bootloaders specific for it.
Finally, in order to flash a different ROM than the Stock ROM already found on your Android device you need root privilege. In order to flash a custom ROM you need to root your device. The most popular custom ROM out there is Cyanogenmod. You can pretty much find how to flash this to your Android device on almost any website (try google and you'll see).
I hope this helped. Let me know if you need anything else.
thank you Nicholas, you are very helpful
as far as I can tell cryogen mod is not supported on note 4 right now, if it is then does anyone have the link?
is there is other rom made specifically for the note 4 that would keep its multiwindow/sylus support?
does a rom have to be for my particular region or my my phone's band/carrier or can any rom be used?
CM 12.1 is available for the Note 4, as long as you don't have a VZW or ATT version. http://galaxynote4root.com/t-mobile-note-4-roms/cm12-1-rom-for-galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-root/
If you post your variant name here, then we can redirect you to the appropriate thread for your device.
You can install any stock ROM you like as long as your phone is not carrier locked, but it is preferable to use the one intended for your phone. Cyanogenmod is available for Note 4 devices and also features the Android Lollipop 5.1.1. As for the Note 4 features, any TouchWiz based rom should allow you to continue using those features. Cyanogenmod is based on AOSP therefore removing all the features offered by the stylus.
Hope it helps. For any more details I would be happy to provide them. Just ask for anything you want.
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My Note 4 variant is SM N910W8, it is Canadian Wind phone.
Whats the worst that could happen from loading the wrong wrong rom? Cant make calls on my network? Phone bricked? Is it actually possible to completely brick a phone doing this or there is always a back solution to restore back to prior state?
How do I check if my phone is carrier locked?
Cyanogen mod mate. Big difference.
ttothel said:
My Note 4 variant is SM N910W8, it is Canadian Wind phone.
Whats the worst that could happen from loading the wrong wrong rom? Cant make calls on my network? Phone bricked? Is it actually possible to completely brick a phone doing this or there is always a back solution to restore back to prior state?
How do I check if my phone is carrier locked?
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If you are flashing a stock samsung ROM then you should be fine, there is a possibility that flashing fails, you'll then just have to go into download mode again and flash the same ROM or download another stock ROM.About carrier lock...did you buy the phone on contract?
No I am not on a contract I would've gotten the same phone either way from Wind Mobile
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No I am not on a contract I would've gotten the same phone either way from Wind Mobile
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I am pretty sure your phone is not Carrier Locked. If you would like to check for sure, then Galaxsim Unlock allows you to check if your SIM is locked to a carrier and also offers an in-app purchase to unlock it for you if it is (Note: I have not used this app before but seems legit).
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So I tried installing cyanogen mod and although it feels much fast than touchwiz it doesn't have many touchwiz features like spen multiwindow and the camera has bad quality/crashes
also it is lollipop so i have to manually data toggle and not rely on juice defender to toggle data every 15 minutes to save battery
so basically could someone recommend me a KITKAT based rom that would keep some good touchwiz features? also it should work for a Canadian note 4 on wind
is it ok to wipe cyanogen mod which is lollipop and instead install a kitkat rom or do i need to do something first?
thanks
I just had a quick search in the forum and found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...om-rom-4-4-4-note4-canada-rooted-sik-t2987056
I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for but it's TouchWiz based and 4.4.4 kitkat and runs on Canadian variants of the Note 4.
About the flashing a kitkat ROM on top of a lollipop ROM, I don't really think it matters - it will just flash the new firmware, but it might cause a boot loop.
A boot loop is when your phone keeps booting up continuously. This can be prevented by taking precautionary measures, which is to factory reset before flashing the new ROM and clearing cache. If it still boots into a boot loop then try to factory reset it and clear cache again (after flashing the new ROM). If it still does not boot up correctly try connecting the phone with odin and just flash cf-autoroot and it should fix that.
I've tried the above methods and so far haven't bricked any phones thanks to these steps, so you should be pretty fine.
Hope this helps and take caution when playing with ROMs and different firmware.
NOTE: I do not take responsibility if you brick your phone. By attempting any of the above actions you acknowledge that it is your fault if anything unrecoverable happens to your phone.
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I want to install Firekat v11 on my WIind mobile Note 4 but I am a little confused
it says to flash the A0A1 base before install firekat
what is A0A1 base? from where do I download it? and how do I odin flash it?
could someone please point me in the right direction ?
thank you
I can't find anything refering to A0A1 on the xda forum. Did you take a look here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786666
It just says you need to have a stock kitkat ROM to flash this. And why use v11, if there is v19 which is much more improved? Either way you have to downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat in order to flash this ROM.
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The not wont to open new topic,so my problem is this:i wont to go back on stock kik kat 4.4.4. i the not like lolipop.All files from samMobile are corupted,i can not extract them,So what is the problem,i used 2 difren zip rar programs,but not working,other tings working with zip ,just this stock rom not working.
I think I figured out what A0A1 base means. I think it means the stock rom version for Wind Mobile
On this website there are all the stock rom images and I see for my carrier there are 4 roms available and you can see the last 4 letters of the rom name have the different "bases" such as AOA1 or ANJ3
http://www.mrcrab.net/stockrom/sm-n910w8.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Canada SM-N910W8 2014-09-25 GLW Wind mobile N910W8VLU1ANIH KitKat 4.4.4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Canada SM-N910W8 2014-10-10 GLW Wind mobile N910W8VLU1ANJ3 KitKat 4.4.4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Canada SM-N910W8 2015-03-12 GLW Wind mobile N910W8VLU1BOC4 Lollipop 5.0.1
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Canada SM-N910W8 2015-01-12 GLW Wind mobile N910W8VLU1AOA1 KitKat 4.4.4
Now I figure that by Odin flash they mean to flash these stock roms like how I originally got TWRP on my phone which is to go into download mode and flash the .tar.md5 file unlike how I used TWRP to flash cynogenmod and its .zip file.
I hope I am right about all this otherwise I will have a very expensive brick this weekend.
IF anyone could confirm if it sounds like I am on the right track that would be great!
There is no V19 for Note4, latest one for Note 4 is V13 based on this T Mobile based thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../firekatn4v1-4-4-4-tw-anj7-extremely-t2916463
I am trying to root my N900V via many many methods and yes i studied everything first before asking this question which is asked thousands of times before, i tried yemen tool, CWM, TWRP, TR, Farmaroot nothing works for me i don't know why, i am on OF1 5.0 Lollipop,.
Please advice, thank you
Did you buy a SM-N900V?
I see this is your first post in this sub-forum, and you have many posts in the "Xiomi Red Note 3" (kenzo) forum.
(There isn't much reason to believe that a root method for one device will work on a completely different device.)
Anyway, your root options for the SM-N900V on either OB6 or OF1 are only the Yemen tools - no other choices.
Using Odin, you can flash any of the factory stock firmwares for NK1, OB6, OF1, or PL1 without hitting the anti-rollback prevention... but only OB6 and OF1 have publicly available rooting methods (the two Yemen threads). Towelroot v3 has not worked since the NC4 release; that is now five releases in the past.
The only other method (much much harder) would be for you to research and implement your own root exploit. (The PL1 release was a security bug patch release, suggesting that one or more severe vulns exist in those older releases)
So go back and try the Yemen tools again - either with OF1, or with OB6. And if you get nothing but failures, describe the setup and observed behaviors during those failures - more than just "it didn't work". No-one wants to play a game of "twenty questions" back-and-forth across the Internet.
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Did you buy a SM-N900V?
I see this is your first post in this sub-forum, and you have many posts in the "Xiomi Red Note 3" (kenzo) forum.
(There isn't much reason to believe that a root method for one device will work on a completely different device.)
Anyway, your root options for the SM-N900V on either OB6 or OF1 are only the Yemen tools - no other choices.
Using Odin, you can flash any of the factory stock firmwares for NK1, OB6, OF1, or PL1 without hitting the anti-rollback prevention... but only OB6 and OF1 have publicly available rooting methods (the two Yemen threads). Towelroot v3 has not worked since the NC4 release; that is now five releases in the past.
The only other method (much much harder) would be for you to research and implement your own root exploit. (The PL1 release was a security bug patch release, suggesting that one or more severe vulns exist in those older releases)
So go back and try the Yemen tools again - either with OF1, or with OB6. And if you get nothing but failures, describe the setup and observed behaviors during those failures - more than just "it didn't work". No-one wants to play a game of "twenty questions" back-and-forth across the Internet.
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First of all thank you for your detailed answer.
No I didn't bought N900V it's my little brother who snatched Redmi Note 3 from me and gave me this piece of work.
Today I will try to downgrade the firmware to OB6 and try Yemen tools again and see if it works, I will get back to you with the report. Sighhhhh I hope it will work on OB6.
P.S how long should Yemen tools take to root the phone? Because I gave it good 15 mins and it was still running in download mode with no progress bar so I thought it's not working.
Update: Didn't worked on OB6 even
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First of all thank you for your detailed answer.
No I didn't bought N900V it's my little brother who snatched Redmi Note 3 from me and gave me this piece of work.
Today I will try to downgrade the firmware to OB6 and try Yemen tools again and see if it works, I will get back to you with the report. Sighhhhh I hope it will work on OB6.
P.S how long should Yemen tools take to root the phone? Because I gave it good 15 mins and it was still running in download mode with no progress bar so I thought it's not working.
Update: Didn't worked on OB6 even
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Dang. I wrote you a long reply and it didn't take and disappeared out of my cache when I hit the back button.
Anyway, I see you are on one of those two yemen threads. That's the right place to continue this discussion.
I'm not much help as I am still on NC4 and have never used either of those methods. So I am not of much technical help.
I did just read both of those threads - every last post - and I can conclude this:
What a mess.
and... you symptoms sound a lot like what everyone else with troubles reports.
Obviously both methods are very fragile. Because they involve a Windows PC, I imagine that a first thing to suspect is Antivirus Programs / Driver version Issues / USB3 vs. USB2.
Since it appears that both methods cause the phone to reboot into different phone modes, at a minimum I would:
(a) verify that the PC's drivers recognize the phone in all modes (adb, Odin)
(b) perhaps toggle the default storage setting (MTP vs PTP) in addition to enabling ADB
maybe even clear the ADB certificate cache before starting.
The thing to be cautious about in both those threads is jumping to conclusions that are not warranted. A lot of people in there are insisting (for instance) "Windows 10 only", despite the fact that there are success reports on Win7, Win8.1 (and even someone reporting success on Win Vista!). Usually they come to those conclusions erroneously because of "post-hoc fallacy": they assume that "the last thing that I changed right before I succeeded" was the critical factor involved in success.
(If the exploit relies on a race condition it could be possible to succeed in seconds ... or never at all. If that is what makes the successes random, then all the fiddling with the PC may not have anything to do with the outcomes.)
good luck
I just happened across this thread after having problems rooting a SM-900V on NK1. Coincidentally enough, the Note 3 in question also belongs to my younger brother. (He is 50, so I will stop short of calling him my 'little' brother).
I have kept my own Note 3 rooted and am currently running Temasek CM13, but he was/is still using KK, and it has been so long that I had lost track of how to root it. I was using Arabic Tools, but it only appeared to work with OB6 and OF1.
I read somewhere that NK1 cannot be downgraded, but what I am gathering from this thread is that it is possible to just apply OB6 or OF1 using Odin then use the Arabic Tools to root? If true, that would make my weekend.
Is the best upgrade route (recognizing that best is subjective) to CM13 going to be using Odin to apply OB6 or OF1, root, unlock bootloader and apply CM13?
Thanks for any advice. I hope I am not hijacking your thread, ecrudragon, but our situations sound similar.
Gundie said:
I read somewhere that NK1 cannot be downgraded, but what I am gathering from this thread is that it is possible to just apply OB6 or OF1 using Odin then use the Arabic Tools to root? If true, that would make my weekend.
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That is possible, yes. As you see from not only this thread but also the two Yemen threads, some people succeed at getting root (on OB6 or OF1) with those tools and some people don't The rooting method seems to be sort of fragile at best.
Before you go racing off though, remember something else: CM13 needs a custom kernel - so even if you can root, you would still need to unlock the bootloader afterwards in order to be able to boot a custom kernel. An additioinal prerequisite of the unlock method is that the CID value of the eMMC flash memory chip on the phone needs to start with 0x15 (indicating manufacture by Samsung)
==> You don't need to be rooted to check the CID value - just download the "eMMC Brickbug (Vinagre)" app to find out what your CID value is before you do anything else. If you are 0x11, you aren't going to get CM13 running whether you can root or not. Only a little value in rooting if you can't unlock the bootloader IMO.
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Is the best upgrade route (recognizing that best is subjective) to CM13 going to be using Odin to apply OB6 or OF1, root, unlock bootloader and apply CM13?
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Yes, more or less. "best" here really only means "the only way that is available without developing some brand new rooting method".
The incrementing of the firmware anti-rollback occurs at certain trip points, which appear to be the releases: MJ7, NC4, and NK1.*
You can not revert backwards prior to the nearest previous (to your currently installed release) of any of these three. Of course, you can always flash forward - possibly going beyond and establishing a new trip point.
(* Because of a lack of reporting, It is possible that NJ6 is the actual trip point, meaning that someone on NK1 could Odin flash back to NJ6 at the earliest. Unfortunately, after I put together all those recovery-flashable Stock ROMs, I installed NJ6 and tried using Towelroot v3 - and no joy. It works on MJ7 through NC4, but not beyond that. So while that possibility (of Odin back-flashing to NJ6) still remains, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to attempt it.)
For your NK1 unit, that means you can flash forward or backward at will (using Odin) among this group of releases:
NK1 OB6 OF1 PL1
At this point in time - since that device is on NK1, and there are no trip points above NK1 (yet as of 4/2/2017) you can Odin flash whatever you want within the above group.
good luck
PS Note something else that falls out of the above analysis: If for whatever reason you can't root or you can't unlock (CID starting with 0x11), it is probably the right thing to do to flash the PL1 firmware. Might as well as it has the most recent security patches available if the device is to continue to be in use as a daily driver. You can always flash back to NK1 - right where you are now - in the event of some new development or rooting opportunity.
Thank you very kindly for all of your help bftb0, I am gratified. I remember being relieved when I ran EMMC Check and seeing the 15. I am running a tweaked kernel (and Kernel Adiutor) with CM13 now, but my brother is still on KitKat. He runs a tethering program that he apparently couldn't get to work under Lollipop, so he unrooted and went back to KK and never thought about it again. I want to get him onto CM while I am visiting him this week.
I will locate those firmwares (thank you for assembling them!) and start working. I fully agree about PL1 - worst case scenario, I would like to see him there. I'll find another way for him to do his damned tethering even if I have to buy him a hotspot.
Major thanks again,
G
Dear @bftb0 didn't read a word you said, kidding read everything and thank you for kind answer.
Arabic Tools didn't worked for me i tried 100 times but fortunately "SM-N900V_FI_ROOTE BY Dr.Android" worked for me like a charm then i replaced Kingroot with SuperSu via some commands, running Stock LP with all the bloatware disabled. Happy now
Hey Guys, I'm having trouble rooting my Note 3. It is an SM-900V (verizon) on PL1. I've tried Yemen and Arabic tools, but I receive error messages on both. Yemen states "not compatible" and Arabic continues to say, 'Enable USB debugging" (which I have). From what I understand, these tools shouldn't work because I'm not on OB6 or OF1. What can I do to get rid of all this bloatware!? Help is appreciated!
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Hey Guys, I'm having trouble rooting my Note 3. It is an SM-900V (verizon) on PL1. I've tried Yemen and Arabic tools, but I receive error messages on both. Yemen states "not compatible" and Arabic continues to say, 'Enable USB debugging" (which I have). From what I understand, these tools shouldn't work because I'm not on OB6 or OF1. What can I do to get rid of all this bloatware!? Help is appreciated!
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Oh man you're seriously messed up, there's no way until now for PL1 to be rooted whatsoever, wait n watch maybe it will come or find your own cure.
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Oh man you're seriously messed up, there's no way until now for PL1 to be rooted whatsoever, wait n watch maybe it will come or find your own cure.
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Not true. He can Odin flash back to OB6 or OF1 stock firmware.
The bootloader RP SWREV flags did not increment between OF1 and PL1 (or so I am told), so there shouldnt be an issue back-rev'ing. (Kind of a surprise actually; I expect Big Red to try and screw us at every turn.)
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Not true. He can Odin flash back to OB6 or OF1 stock firmware.
The bootloader RP SWREV flags did not increment between OF1 and PL1 (or so I am told), so there shouldnt be an issue back-rev'ing. (Kind of a surprise actually; I expect Big Red to try and screw us at every turn.)
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Oh, i thought there's no going back from PL1, if so then he can work twice as hard as i did and now i am running AryaMod 6.0.1 MM, Rooted & Bootloader unlocked, Learn learn & learn :fingers-crossed:
P.S if anybody want i can share my whole journey from rooting stock to TWRP/AryaMod MM.
Hey guys, non Note 3 user here.
My buddy has a 900V with EOF1 and is on one of the cheaper AT&T LTE alternative plans.
He's still in "official" status and has never rooted before.
I'd like to get him onto an AOSP or CM (LOS) ROM.
Can anyone recommend a super stable one where everything works?
Doesn't need to be the fastest or have most options or best battery.
Just... everything works and is better than stock.
Can anyone recommend a root/TWRP/ROM plan for me?
I won't need heavy details.
I'm a heavy flasher, familiar with ADB/Odin/Fastboot.
Just the quick details and then I can figure it out from there.
Am not however, familiar with non SuperSU rooting methods.
Would like to stay with 5.X or maybe 6.X.
Not at all interested in 7.X.
I'm Verizon N900V on version 5.0 - Build N900VVRSERPL1 Dec 2016 update. From what I'm reading, my bootloader is locked. If I flash and roll back to OF1, OB6 or NK1, can the bootloader be unlocked? I do not use this phone as a primary phone. It's only used when connected to WiFi. It's an old phone that I want to root and don't care if any Verizon service works on it at all. Any advice? On and my CID starts with 15, not 0x11.
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I'm Verizon N900V on version 5.0 - Build N900VVRSERPL1 Dec 2016 update. From what I'm reading, my bootloader is locked. If I flash and roll back to OF1, OB6 or NK1, can the bootloader be unlocked? I do not use this phone as a primary phone. It's only used when connected to WiFi. It's an old phone that I want to root and don't care if any Verizon service works on it at all. Any advice? On and my CID starts with 15, not 0x11.
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You can only roll back to OF1 but yes, then it can be rooted and bootloader unlocked.
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donc113 said:
You can only roll back to OF1 but yes, then it can be rooted and bootloader unlocked.
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I'm in a very similar situation and odin'd ob6... which was previously root able but not now (seeking help in my own thread aswell).
Does my device also qualify for of1? I'm pretty sure I grabbed that Img last night and for what ever reason clicked ob6 :/ as it was what I was running before.
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I'm in a very similar situation and odin'd ob6... which was previously root able but not now (seeking help in my own thread aswell).
Does my device also qualify for of1? I'm pretty sure I grabbed that Img last night and for what ever reason clicked ob6 :/ as it was what I was running before.
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OF1 is what you need, NOT ob6
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