I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
megamanDJ said:
As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
megamanDJ said:
Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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kevp75 said:
lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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kevp75 said:
yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
kevp75 said:
I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
kevp75 said:
Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
megamanDJ said:
The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
kevp75 said:
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL
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So, as Froyo is slowly becoming the standard around here, I thought I would post a few workarounds for some of the problems that people are having with Froyo and the wide selections of Froyo ROMS to choose from. I put this list together, as these problems I see coming up in many of the Froyo ROM threads.
So, I ll start with a few of the most common ones, and will add to this list later.
Issue -My apps are appearing twice in the ADW apps launcher after moving them to the SD card! (Froyo apps2sd)
Workaround-It seems almost everytime I reboot the phone that Im getting the apps appearing twice. If you uninstall ADW, and then reinstall it, then it stops. So what I ve done for the time being is to install ADW new, get all the widgets and apps you want on the home screen, and then go into the restore and backup settings in ADW launcher. Make a backup of your ADW settings and of your homescreens and save those to your sd card (it does this automatically). Then, the next time you need to reboot your phone and you see double apps coming up, just go into ADW settings and "Restore" your settings for the launcher and homescreens. Then the double apps go away, your settings are retained, and your apps and widgets are back on your homescreen.
If your using the same apps and widgets all the time, its probably a good idea to do a Nandroid after you ve done this, and to save the 2 ADW save files stored on your sd card just in case you ever want to quickly restore your settings again.
Issue- Froyo apps2sd is rubbish! I only have 40mb left on internal storage! I want the old apps2sd back!!
Workaround- First off, I have to admit that at first I didn’t like the new Froyo apps2sd. But actually now, I like it more, due to the fact that you don’t need an EXT or swap (meaning MORE SPEED), AND coupled with the fact theres a very easy way to get FOUR TIMES MORE STORAGE than the 40mb (estimate for 115 apps) that you have left. The solution? Easy..all you have to do is go into your ROMS settings, and “move dalvik to cache”. To put it simply, I have 117 apps installed on my phone. After I moved them all to the sd card, I had 40mb left. I then went into the spare parts on Emonthers ROM, and enabled “dalvik on cache”. I then rebooted, and VOILA…137mb free internal space.
I cant confirm that all ROMS have this option, but if your ROM does have it, it’s the way to go. From what I ve read (please correct me if im wrong), this space is allocated mostly for OTA updates. As most of us here have root, why not use that space to free up some internal memory! After doing this, my phone is running VERY fast and smooth.
Issue- My phone keeps rebooting at the load screen! HELP!!
Workaround -This commonly occurs if you didn’t wipe properly when coming from another ROM. If this is happening to you, you ll need to:
Pull your battery to get the loops to stop
Reboot into recovery
Do a full wipe, then if you have an ext partition wipe that. Also wipe cache and dalvik settings. This is very important. Then flash your ROM. Your Bootloops should then stop. And remember, if your partioning your card, remember to REPAIR EXT PARTITIONS. This is VERY important and will save you lots of grief.
Issue- When I record video my phone reboots! HELP!
Workaround- This means you haven’t installed the Froyo radio. You ll need to be sure you have either flashed the zip version of the Froyo radio or installed the image (Cyan says installing the image is safer. Im sure hes probably right, but I can confirm I have flashed the zip version of the radio and it works fine).
Issue-I don’t know which apps to install to the sd card and which I should leave on the phone! AAARRGGHH!
Workaround- From what I have read, what you ll want to leave on the phone are:
Widgets, apps that have widgets that you use, keyboards, and system apps. I also keep my sms app on the phone, although Im sure it will work fine on the SD card.
Issue- I just flashed a new ROM, and now the app launcher is all slow! Whats up with that??
Workaround- This is most likely because your apps are being automatically redownloaded and installed. This is a feature of Android that was added to Eclaire that allows Google (with your permission) to backup your settings (apps, wifi key, ect). Give the phone a minute and you ll see in your app launcher that your apps are being added automatically! When its done, you ll get a notification that says “ “X” number of apps reinstalled. Saves you time and work, and now your launcher will stop lagging.
Issue- There are so many Froyo ROMS! Which one is the best one!??!
Workaround- This is like asking if basketball is cooler than football. In short: it’s a matter of opinion. I can however share my findings so far.
Cyan6- We all know the quality of Cyan and TeamDouches work. When there ROMS go stable, they..well…they JUST WORK GREAT. Cyans ROMS are always very detailed and COMPLETE (trackball lights, wallpapers, advanced options) Right now, for me the ROM is still very buggy, so I would give it the number 3 spot.
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe- If you like overclocking and speed, this ROM is a winner! His ROMS have a lot of kernel options and overclocking enhancements, and are fairly stable. Very recommended.
Enomther- At this very moment, this ROM takes the cake and is easily my number 1 pick. Stable, fast, TONS of enhanced features and extra settings, and I can honestly say I haven’t had one FC yet. I can understand why hes one of the top dogs here. His newest ROM has been an AWESOME Froyo experience for me, and I ll be sticking with him until Cyan goes stable.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FROYO ROMS. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT I HAD THE BEST EXPERIENCES WITH. YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MAY VARY!! THE DEVS HERE ALL DO GREAT WORK, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS SAYING THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER!
Anyway, that’s all I have for now. I hope this helps out, and I ll be adding to this thread as more common problems come to me. I hope it helps someone out, and I really hope it saves our awesome devs some time from answering questions. After all, it takes time creating all the awesomeness that they bring!
**Reserved for future issues**
great job dude thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
EDIT- have a look on your SD card.is there a folder called " android secure"?
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
PhantomRampage said:
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
thank you for the information. I would suggest that you try Leo Froyo. Very stable and full of options.
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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i have the same problem... even if i delete che android_secure folder
*delete*
wrong post. Sorry.
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
Download this file here and make sure it doesn't have .txt as file ext, but .xml instead. Rename if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6602402&postcount=8
Then follow this instruction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7046487&postcount=29
If it doesn't work, you most likely don't have the shared_prefs folder. So just create one.
Hope it helps. Good luck.
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How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Dai323 said:
Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
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apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
flybyme said:
apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
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LOL. Yes, I know what the new Froyo apps to sd is I asked because in many of the Froyo ROMS you have the possibility to choose between the new implemented from Google apps2sd or the old style apps2sd that we seen in builds prior to Froyo.
Have you given rjhay22's suggestion a try? Please let me know if it fixes so that I can get it added to the original post.
Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread
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Moved too general area
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Thanks Im just hoping we can save the devs some time. I ll keep adding to it the more and more we find solutions.
Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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well if you have the mod install location app you can force the option to allow apps to be moved to SD
@Dai323
haha sorry i was using froyo apps to sd. I dont think it makes any difference whether that folder is there or not unless something is entirely screwed up with a rom flash.
ive read that the solution rjahays solution will work for enomthers for sure as well as modacos rom
Running Trigger Redux 13
I had 173 in total and after installing my apps (232) it comes down to 1.55 mb
I delete the folders but come back after rebooting.
I find it that I have to delete apps to keep the phone running without forceclosing.
It is weird because the TW roms never do that. Only AOSP roms
Don't know why.
I have 211 user apps and cm7 doesn't force close on me? Neither does miui. Why would you need more /datadata space?
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Because as soon as I start using Dolphin browser it goes from 8mb to 80 kb and it force closes.
I have THD and big 10+ apps
Alanrocks15 said:
Because as soon as I start using Dolphin browser it goes from 8mb to 80 kb and it force closes.
I have THD and big 10+ apps
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I've had similar issues as well....seems like facebook and dolphin browser use alot of /datadata..
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Because as soon as I start using Dolphin browser it goes from 8mb to 80 kb and it force closes.
I have THD and big 10+ apps
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Folders will always re-appear unless you delete the actual app that its creating them or if is part of the OS you don't wanna be deleting them even if they are empty. If Im getting this right your talking about your internal (app) storage partition in your phone right (iow not the internal/external sd). There are only a few things you could do to get a little more storage space in there but some u gotta do it at ur own risk. 1-reboot to recovery and wipe catche & dalvik catche. 2-Remove bloatware or any other app u dont really use (u sure u wanna keep that fart app?) via Titanium Backup am make sure u wipe data b4 removing them (search & read what systems app ur safe to remove k)and then re-do step 1. 3-Using a file manager (like Astro or Root Explorer) go to data/data folder and delete any leftover folders from apps you uninstalled (VERY RISKY!!! You really gotta know what ur doing cuz the apps name and the com." ". " " folder name sometimes wont be the same so I DO NOT recommend it but its here as a fyi).
...and another note: not sure about u but when Dolphin Browser HD went 5.0 I had to let it go cuz it was slow and it FC on me a couple of times so I had to say bye to it and now I'm happy with Firefox.
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Because as soon as I start using Dolphin browser it goes from 8mb to 80 kb and it force closes.
I have THD and big 10+ apps
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Folders will always re-appear unless you delete the actual app that its creating them or if is part of the OS you don't wanna be deleting them even if they are empty. If Im getting this right your talking about your internal (app) storage partition in your phone right (iow not the internal/external sd). There are only a few things you could do to get a little more storage space in there but some u gotta do it at ur own risk. 1-reboot to recovery and wipe catche & dalvik catche. 2-Remove bloatware or any other app u dont really use (u sure u wanna keep that fart app?) via Titanium Backup and make sure u wipe data b4 removing them (search & read what systems app ur safe to remove k)and then re-do step 1. 3-Using a file manager (like Astro or Root Explorer) go to data/data folder and delete any leftover folders from apps you uninstalled (VERY RISKY!!! You really gotta know what ur doing cuz the apps name and the com." ". " " folder name sometimes wont be the same so I DO NOT recommend it but its here as a fyi).
...and another note: not sure about u but when Dolphin Browser HD went 5.0 I had to let it go cuz it was slow and it FC on me a couple of times so I had to say bye to it and now I'm happy with Firefox.
Wait so when I delete an app the /datadata folder still has the app folder.?
So for every app I uninstall I have to go into the/datadata older and delete that file.
Alanrocks15 said:
Wait so when I delete an app the /datadata folder still has the app folder.?
So for every app I uninstall I have to go into the/datadata older and delete that file.
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I've noticed that some files will stay there after you uninstall SOME apps (i.e. angry birds), not all of them.
I'm not saying to do that, all what I gave you was some FYI , THAT's IT!
The /datadata issue is a huge PITA! I dont understand why it only affects some people and others dont have the issue. I have to monitor my phones /datadata folder because once it gets around 85% usage, my phone gets wonky. I NEVER had to worry about this pre-GB ROM.
Oh yes, very annoying. Even when moving apptosd it stills gives force closes. I gave up. My solution, have less Apps.
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The /datadata issue is a huge PITA! I dont understand why it only affects some people and others dont have the issue. I have to monitor my phones /datadata folder because once it gets around 85% usage, my phone gets wonky. I NEVER had to worry about this pre-GB ROM.
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I already investigated this months back. They put datadata in its own partition to fix performance issues. The tradeoff is the datadata partition is smaller than the default internal app partition.
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I already investigated this months back. They put datadata in its own partition to fix performance issues. The tradeoff is the datadata partition is smaller than the default internal app partition.
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Would the galaxy s 2 phones have the same issue?
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compuguy1088 said:
I already investigated this months back. They put datadata in its own partition to fix performance issues. The tradeoff is the datadata partition is smaller than the default internal app partition.
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So what's the ultimate fix for /datadata issues?
In trying to free up some space on my KF today, I noticed that apps that I had uninstalled, both before and after I rooted my KF, still left the entire app on my KF.
What's up with this?
For example, one of the first things I installed, kinda jokingly, was the Nook app. This was days after I got my KF and I had also downloaded a few free books for it. I uninstalled that app 6 months ago, yet all the Nook files were still there, including the .apk. I was able to delete them all and not cause any noticeable problem with my KF, but I have d/l'd a lot of apps and deleted them since I got my KF on the first day it was released. So if it had an easy name to remember, not too big of an issue, but app names in the directory aren't always straightforward to what they are... they may be listed by their developer's name or such.
I'm not opposed to completely wiping it and re-installing everything, but there are a number of games that I would lose my progress in if I did that. Plus, I am not in desperate need of space... yet. Granted, the TWRP backup doesn't help much when it comes to space, but it is a nice thing to have.
[BTW, my KF has been rooted for several months now, and was just updated with the latest KFU v9.6, running GoLauncher. It's a pretty straight forward rooted device that I haven't tweaked much because I really do read a lot on it.]
So I was wondering if there was an app that works better than the free version of SD Maid to clean up all this left over garbage? Even SD Maid didn't detect the Nook app still being there (the free version doesn't do all the paid version does, but, for the most part, it still shows ya what it found). Or if someone has a detailed guide of walking you through how to clean up useless files... that would be cool too.
Like I said, there is definitely a lot of crap taking up space that can be deleted. But I don't know Android (I'm really a Windows/Cisco guy), so I don't know to what extent I can delete stuff without causing problems.
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW, could the Image Verification images be any harder? LOL
PBFred said:
In trying to free up some space on my KF today, I noticed that apps that I had uninstalled, both before and after I rooted my KF, still left the entire app on my KF.
What's up with this?
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I believe this is an issue in older Android versions. I noticed my phone doing the same thing while it was in Eclair, then in Froyo and then in GingerBread.
It looks to me like ICS will automatically remove any orphan data it finds - I've tried deleting just an application's apk and, after rebooting the system, its data was gone as well (tried on both my phone and KF).
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So if it had an easy name to remember, not too big of an issue, but app names in the directory aren't always straightforward to what they are... they may be listed by their developer's name or such.
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I guess you can try "pm list packages -f" to get the names of the apks and their matching data folders.
PBFred said:
I'm not opposed to completely wiping it and re-installing everything, but there are a number of games that I would lose my progress in if I did that.
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You can most likely extract their data. Alternatively, you may want to look into Titanium Backup for backing up both apps and their data.
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Granted, the TWRP backup doesn't help much when it comes to space, but it is a nice thing to have.
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You could also move the TWRP backup to the computer...
I would just backup any apps/games on TB while also saving the contents of your SD on your computer. Then simply use TWRP to wide SD card. You can then move your TWRP backups to the SD card from your computer and restore app and data on TB.
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Y. As I have always had low storage space problem, I looked for solutions to that. I installed various root apps (Install Manager, Root App Delete, App 2 SD, Titanium Backup, Link 2 SD), and fiddled with them. After uninstalling and moving quite a few, I wanted to deal with the Samsung Apps.
After searching a bit, it seems the samsung app store is not COMPLETELY useless, so I want to keep it. However none of the apps save Titanium Backup actually recognized samsungapps as an app that it can do something about. However, I am very confused.
1) I am on stock. The Noob Guides on the phone show that Link2SD requires Custom ROM, yet some people have said it works on stock ROM. I am a little hesitant, so I would like clarification... Is it ok to use Link2SD with Stock Rooted ROM?
2) I want to integrate updates onto samsung apps (which is a system app). However, I also want to move it to SD card. Is it required to be a User app to move to SD Card? What are the other effects of Converting to user app? Is it advisable, or is it too deeply installed and will it cause problems? Why can't I integrate updates for any user app? Or do user apps always integrate updates?
3) Link 2 SD requires a partitioned SD card. Is that advisable with the Stock ROM? Maybe I can partition it not as a swap, but only as an app partition, for neater organization?
I searched the forum quite extensively, couldn't find definitive info/experience with this. Apologies if this is addressed somewhere.
Btw, I also flashed my GNex to Stock. Thanks to the precise detail in which the process was explained, the whole thing barely took any time This forum gets better every time I read it.
Apart from the actual solution itself, I would like some links to in depth info to read up about the above topics.
Thanks in advance
milindsmart said:
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Y. As I have always had low storage space problem, I looked for solutions to that. I installed various root apps (Install Manager, Root App Delete, App 2 SD, Titanium Backup, Link 2 SD), and fiddled with them. After uninstalling and moving quite a few, I wanted to deal with the Samsung Apps.
After searching a bit, it seems the samsung app store is not COMPLETELY useless, so I want to keep it. However none of the apps save Titanium Backup actually recognized samsungapps as an app that it can do something about. However, I am very confused.
1) I am on stock. The Noob Guides on the phone show that Link2SD requires Custom ROM, yet some people have said it works on stock ROM. I am a little hesitant, so I would like clarification... Is it ok to use Link2SD with Stock Rooted ROM?
2) I want to integrate updates onto samsung apps (which is a system app). However, I also want to move it to SD card. Is it required to be a User app to move to SD Card? What are the other effects of Converting to user app? Is it advisable, or is it too deeply installed and will it cause problems? Why can't I integrate updates for any user app? Or do user apps always integrate updates?
3) Link 2 SD requires a partitioned SD card. Is that advisable with the Stock ROM? Maybe I can partition it not as a swap, but only as an app partition, for neater organization?
I searched the forum quite extensively, couldn't find definitive info/experience with this. Apologies if this is addressed somewhere.
Btw, I also flashed my GNex to Stock. Thanks to the precise detail in which the process was explained, the whole thing barely took any time This forum gets better every time I read it.
Apart from the actual solution itself, I would like some links to in depth info to read up about the above topics.
Thanks in advance
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Omg
Plez make ur question small as possible ..
Who do u think will read all this ...
I dednt read everything stopped safer first para
Reframe ur question
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1. Yea it works with stock as long as ur phone is rooted
2. I don't advice u to link apps like Samsung apps g-play etc etc
However if u want to clear up internal memory link apps like gmail news and whether etc etc
3. Wat u will not be able to store anything else in linked partition except linking apps
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sanny5 said:
Omg
Plez make ur question small as possible ..
Who do u think will read all this ...
I dednt read everything stopped safer first para
Reframe ur question
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Sorry didn't realize it was so long.
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[/COLOR]1. Yea it works with stock as long as ur phone is rooted
2. I don't advice u to link apps like Samsung apps g-play etc etc
However if u want to clear up internal memory link apps like gmail news and whether etc etc
3. Wat u will not be able to store anything else in linked partition except linking apps
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2) Ok I'll keep the Samsung app store app on internal memory. What about the apps installed using the Samsung app store? I should be able to link them into SD card right?
So the Samsung app store apps is equivalent to the usual play store apps according to the OS? Same way for the store apps themselves?
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Sorry I didn't follow
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I think link2sd is best for this..
As I know it don't require a custom rom and u also use it without a partition
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milindsmart said:
sanny5 said:
Omg
Plez make ur question small as possible ..
Who do u think will read all this ...
I dednt read everything stopped safer first para
Reframe ur question
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Sorry didn't realize it was so long.
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---------- Post added at 10:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 AM ----------
[/COLOR]1. Yea it works with stock as long as ur phone is rooted
2. I don't advice u to link apps like Samsung apps g-play etc etc
However if u want to clear up internal memory link apps like gmail news and whether etc etc
3. Wat u will not be able to store anything else in linked partition except linking apps
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2) Ok I'll keep the Samsung app store app on internal memory. What about the apps installed using the Samsung app store? I should be able to link them into SD card right?
So the Samsung app store apps is equivalent to the usual play store apps according to the OS? Same way for the store apps themselves?
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yes,samsungapps is just like playstore.
anything downloaded will be an user app,you could move 'em to sd
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milindsmart said:
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Y. As I have always had low storage space problem, I looked for solutions to that. I installed various root apps (Install Manager, Root App Delete, App 2 SD, Titanium Backup, Link 2 SD), and fiddled with them. After uninstalling and moving quite a few, I wanted to deal with the Samsung Apps.
3) Link 2 SD requires a partitioned SD card. Is that advisable with the Stock ROM? Maybe I can partition it not as a swap, but only as an app partition, for neater organization?
Thanks in advance
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Try App2SD in place of Link 2 SD on your rooted stock ROM. It works without partitioning your SD card and will even transfer apps that can safely be placed on the SD card automatically, no intervention needed. It seems to work fine for me.
Hello, guys. I saw this thread today and thought of doing the same thing for Moto G. I just adapted it, some apps and odex were differents. So, here it is.
Download:
In attachments
Way to install:
Put it on /sdcard and flash by recovery. After, wipe dalvik cache.
Things to do:
Give some love to this ugly op
Delete apps you suggest, as i couldn't add more because i don't have a backup and didn't want mess it all :S
Credits: MoJo - script creator
Well, this is it. Thanks for reading it all.
mathm2013 said:
Hello, guys. I saw this thread today and thought of doing the same thing for Moto G. I just adapted it, some apps and odex were differents. So, here it is.
Download:
In attachments
Way to install:
Put it on /sdcard and flash by recovery. After, wipe dalvik cache.
Things to do:
Give some love to this ugly op
Delete apps you suggest, as i couldn't add more because i don't have a backup and didn't want mess it all :S
Credits: MoJo - script creator
Well, this is it. Thanks for reading it all.
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hi dude, this is great, so can you make an scrip that just have the esential gapps? just like if we install the "minimal gapps", if you can do it, i have another question, this will break OTA updates? thanks!
alonsoch said:
i have another question, this will break OTA updates? thanks!
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Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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Is space from deleted apps really not reclaimed? That's strange...so for example the 5,52 MB available (or better the free MB amount of those 5,52) won't increase after deleting built-in apps?
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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thanks for the answer, so what is the built-in method of disabling apps in Android?
alonsoch said:
thanks for the answer, so what is the built-in method of disabling apps in Android?
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Settings > apps > all > choose app > click > disable
Rooting the device also breaks OTA updates.
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ksuuk said:
Settings > apps > all > choose app > click > disable
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well, thanks
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
mathm2013 said:
Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
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Deleting apps on the /system partition will not give you any additional space on /data either, so there is no point in deleting them. Disabling them is the more logical way if you want to get rid of them.
mathm2013 said:
Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
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The internal memory and the /system are two separate partitions. You cannot access the free space on /system unless you are rooted (and you have limited use of it even if you are rooted, for example you can move apps there with titanium backup, but cannot use it for storing media files).
Great! Works perfectly.
The general performance is slightly improved, and the battery life is better than stock. With the Faux123 kernel, the battery life (if correctly configured) is impressive.
Thans a lot.
Which apps are being the deleted exactly? (Did i miss a post about that?)