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Hi guys, anybody here experiencing slowdowns on their Note? Currently experiencing slowdowns in various UI areas:
Keyboard visible delay when pressing a key especially if haptic feedback is enabled.
Slide to unlock in the lockscreen has visible response issues. I needed to do it slowly to have a successful unlock. Else I would need to slide 2-3 times.
Opening the app drawer has visible lag. Take a few milliseconds before it starts to open.
Some of my apps and games display a black screen when opening. Like it is loading instead of instantaneously opening it like the first time I got my Note. Doodling with the S-pen for a few minutes slows down the entire phone.
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My Note is on Stock firmware with ChainFire's cf-root kernel. Any advice on what I should do?
Keith
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Same here with Stock KKJ
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Same here too
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So is it only us three? What are we doing wrong?
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I got the same problem, though it seldom happens.. especially when in S Memo..
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Every Note will be a little laggy, those that say they don't have any must have come from a lower end android device or from one which had similar lag, I have mentioned this in another thread, if you have come from a high end one, like the galaxy s2 like me for instance, you will notice the lag. It will be sorted in a couple of future firmware updates, don't worry
I notice a big slow down when the battery is less than 10%. Nothing works.
Flash KKA firmware (if you prefer to stay stock) or some Custom ROM based on KKA, overclock it a little, freeze or uninstall some crapware and it'll get better. I wouldn't expect it go get buttery smooth though. The sheer amount of pixels the Note has to move around will have it's effect. We'll have to wait till they start using GPU accleleration on OS UI level (ICS). I managed to get mine to the point where lag is noticeable when I'm looking for it but not annoying anymore. And I'm fussy.
@sharp - well, I would expect that below 10% goes into power saving mode and the CPU gets seriously downclocked. It happens for a reason. They may be some way around it but my guess is that it's a very short way. Like 5 minutes and the phone is dead or something.
I'm new to the whole Android thing but I used to install lots of roms on my trusty old Windows Mobile devices over the years. I remember then that trying out different roms sometimes meant things would stop working.
Here's my problem. I have a Nexus 7 and it works fine on stock unrooted 4.1.2. I think. I've used the Nexus Root Toolkit to (very easily) unlock and root it. When rooted on stock rom (4.1.1 or 4.1.2), it takes a couple of seconds to turn on from sleep, sometimes needs to reboot, sometimes the gyroscope/acceslerometer locks and doesn't work as it should...
Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?
littld said:
I'm new to the whole Android thing but I used to install lots of roms on my trusty old Windows Mobile devices over the years. I remember then that trying out different roms sometimes meant things would stop working.
Here's my problem. I have a Nexus 7 and it works fine on stock unrooted 4.1.2. I think. I've used the Nexus Root Toolkit to (very easily) unlock and root it. When rooted on stock rom (4.1.1 or 4.1.2), it takes a couple of seconds to turn on from sleep, sometimes needs to reboot, sometimes the gyroscope/acceslerometer locks and doesn't work as it should...
Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?
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Rooting doesn't make a difference on stability (or shouldn't)
All rooting does is give you admin rights to parts of the phone not accesible without rooted. Basically...
Customer ROM's for the Nexus at the moment (and sorry about this devs but its true) are not yet up to par with the Stock ROM.
Its stable pretty fast and not bad with battery.
Hope this helps.
Right so after lots of erratic behaviour with rooted stock 4.1.2, I unrooted and relocked the boot loader. It was better already but I've also run the Forever Gone thing and it's now working perfectly.
I would like to root again but not at the expense of stability. I had previously use the Toolkit if it makes any difference.
littld said:
Right so after lots of erratic behaviour with rooted stock 4.1.2, I unrooted and relocked the boot loader. It was better already but I've also run the Forever Gone thing and it's now working perfectly.
I would like to root again but not at the expense of stability. I had previously use the Toolkit if it makes any difference.
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Rooting and/or unlocking the bootloader will have no direct effect on stability. What you do with your device after rooting is entirely a different issue.
Wilks3y said:
Rooting doesn't make a difference on stability (or shouldn't)
All rooting does is give you admin rights to parts of the phone not accesible without rooted. Basically...
Customer ROM's for the Nexus at the moment (and sorry about this devs but its true) are not yet up to par with the Stock ROM.
Its stable pretty fast and not bad with battery.
Hope this helps.
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This would be true if it weren't a Nexus device. We can more or less compile the same ROM that Google shipped. CyanogenMod 10 in my experience has been rock solid stable, though obviously there are still some bugs, I have encountered none. I also used EOS for a little, and that was equally great.
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Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?
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Nope.
IF you flash a non stock rom and/or kernel, then it depends on what you use. Read notes and user replies.
Sometimes I do get random shut downs when not in use, both while charging and not charging. I am not sure if that is a 4.1.2 issue or if it's tied to the rom I'm using. Have had it happen on two different roms.
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Nope.
IF you flash a non stock rom and/or kernel, then it depends on what you use. Read notes and user replies.
Sometimes I do get random shut downs when not in use, both while charging and not charging. I am not sure if that is a 4.1.2 issue or if it's tied to the rom I'm using. Have had it happen on two different roms.
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I lost the ability to control the music app with my headphone controls after rooting, it didnt happen when I opened the box and played with the nexus
Some apps are written to block rooted devices but there's no way the mere act of unlocking and rooting would affect overall stability.
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After a day on stock rom I thought it was settled but no...
The battery drained down and after that it kept getting stuck at the Google Cross animation. I spent a while re-flashing stock rom and eventually it starts up. Sometimes. The accelerator issue remains but it is less frequent.
I contacted Google who put me on to Asus. They are going to send me an RMA number and we'll take it from there.
how do you revert or reset to a factory state???
I´m new with the nexus 7 so really have no clue
To reset your device, go to "settings", then "backup & reset", and finally "factory data reset".
The difficult in waking is something I went through with my N7. I found there is a bug with the auto-brightness setting. If I use the manual option I don't experience any problems.
I rooted my N7 the day I got it (had experience with SGS and Gnex) and haven't looked back. I haven't had any other issues than the "sleep of death".
Hope this helps.
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how do you revert or reset to a factory state???
I´m new with the nexus 7 so really have no clue
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To reset your device, go to "settings", then "backup & reset", and finally "factory data reset".
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If you mean stock non rooted, then the above will set you back to factory.
If you are rooted, that will not remove the root. You will need to flash a stock image to completely return to stock and then re-lock the bootloader.
I seem to have had more problems if the power runs down. I have turned off the auto brightness and I agree it's better in terms of starting up. I still have the issue with rotation not always working. Also, I notice it takes several seconds for the screen to come on when I press the power button. Is that normal?
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I seem to have had more problems if the power runs down. I have turned off the auto brightness and I agree it's better in terms of starting up. I still have the issue with rotation not always working. Also, I notice it takes several seconds for the screen to come on when I press the power button. Is that normal?
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No, that is not normal, whether you're rooted or not.
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alkemist80 said:
If you mean stock non rooted, then the above will set you back to factory.
If you are rooted, that will not remove the root. You will need to flash a stock image to completely return to stock and then re-lock the bootloader.
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will the toolkit help me do this???
if so will it delete the sd card??
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Okay now it's getting weird. I got an RMA number and they are due to collect it tomorrow and fix it. Since I got the RMA number it has behaved perfectly. I did make a video of the problems but since making the video I've not been able to reproduce them. The battery is down to 14% now, will see what happens when it is fully drained. One major difference is the power button instantly switches the device on whereas it used to wait a few seconds.
Can hardware just fix itself like that? I'm concerned they'll get it and say they can't detect any problems and charge me for the shipping...
I'll keep on testing until morning but if you guys have any ideas please let me know.
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will the toolkit help me do this???
if so will it delete the sd card??
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I've used Wug's toolkit to return to compete stock. It will wipe everything. It's a two step process, you will still need to lock the boot loader. Go read the thread in the Android development section.
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It's fine, even rooted so have cancelled the RMA. Hopefully it was just a short term fluke.
Several weeks on I have had no more repetition of these problems. I did have a line flicker occasionally before installing 4.2 but even that problem has gone away now. I just don't understand how the behaviour can be so unpredictable like it needed to settle into its new home or something.
Hoping someone can help me out with a serious ongoing problem I've been having with my N7.
I'm getting random reboots where the screen will go blank - all black, or one colour with lines, will be completely unresponsive and will either stay like this until I do a reset with a long press of the power button, or reboot itself after about 30 seconds. The reboot is often accompanied by a loud buzzing from the speaker.
It will then get caught in a bootloop between the Google screen and the boot animation.
It seems to be related to the battery somehow because it doesn't happen when I'm plugged into the charger or connected to an external battery pack.
I'm almost certain it's a hardware rather than a software issue as I've tried a full wipe and ROM restore to no effect.
I'm wondering if someone could help me out with diagnosing or some advice.
Is this a warranty case or something I could fix easily, etc?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Are you overclocking, undervolting, or using a non-stock kernel?
If so, restore stock to your N7 for a while and see if the problem persists.
If the problem persists after that it probably is hardware as you suggest. (Even mildly-overclocked/undervolted default settings in a kernel could theoretically cause instability problems for a small fraction of processors - so you need to eliminate that as a possibility by running stock for a while.)
You might actually want to go so far as to restore the lock state of the bootloader after you restore to stock; that way, if things get worse and your warranty period has not yet expired... well, you get the idea...
good luck
Running the latest 'stable' PA and M kernel with default settings as far as clocking and volting AFAIK.
I will try returning to stock unlocked though to eliminate the possibility of some incompatibility between my device and custom kernel.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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I am facing same issue with me but since its in under warranty i am going to RMA it with asus, but i lives in india its not yet launched in india & bought from USA so i dont know i may or may not get battery replacement.
Does anyone know if popping off the back to look inside would break warranty?
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Does anyone know if popping off the back to look inside would break warranty?
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No unless & untill you open it without letting them know so open it carefully , There are various videos on youtube on how to open back cover of Nexus 7 .
Hi all, my old nexus 7 tablet is totally unresponsive after updating to android 4.3. The problem can be recreated in every single browser you run. After several minutes of browsing the device begins to lag heavy to a point where performance is do degraded that even the return to home or multitask buttons are taking ages to respond. I am totally confused, a update with a trim function supposed to speed tings up is dousing massive problems. I have searched trough the forums in the web and many are reporting same problems.
Does any one here experience the same ?
Try reset to factory settings.
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Try reset to factory settings.
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I have tried even different roms. Now i am at a stock rooted 4.3 (latest update) , same thing...
Will make a reset and see how long will the tablet stay fast.
Unfortunately for me after root the tablet started lags. Reinstall it completely and now use it without root.
I m not experiencing nothing from lags. But somehow mediaserver drains my battery and I can t get more then 4 hours screen. Before had 6 or 7 hours youtube and browsing.
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I'm having the very same problem. I've tried all sorts of things to fix this with no lasting results. Factory resets make no difference. Also having a load of problems with the Play store, but that's happening on all my devices at the moment so it's likely not related.
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This happened to me a while ago. No matter how many times I factory restored it was still slow and choppy. SO I was really desperate I downloaded the OEM factory image and flashed it. Low and behold that fixed all the ridiculous lagginess I had and it has been good ever since.
m52 power! said:
This happened to me a while ago. No matter how many times I factory restored it was still slow and choppy. SO I was really desperate I downloaded the OEM factory image and flashed it. Low and behold that fixed all the ridiculous lagginess I had and it has been good ever since.
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I'm in the process of trying this and it seems to be working for the time being. That said, I have had good, early results before and within a day or so the lag is back. This is the first attempt at flashing 4.3 ( I updated to 4.3 through OTA before) so I'm hoping it has a better result. I even performed a factory reset after flashing just so I know all bases are covered. If the lag does return then I'm at a loss as to why. Just as well I'm away to get the new Nexus7.
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I'm in the process of trying this and it seems to be working for the time being. That said, I have had good, early results before and within a day or so the lag is back. This is the first attempt at flashing 4.3 ( I updated to 4.3 through OTA before) so I'm hoping it has a better result. I even performed a factory reset after flashing just so I know all bases are covered. If the lag does return then I'm at a loss as to why. Just as well I'm away to get the new Nexus7.
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To me is not the lag that concernes me. Its the battery drain. No matter wich rom. The drain is allways present. In 4.2.2 its 40 % more battery time. I did a full image install from google.
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testadeferro said:
To me is not the lag that concernes me. Its the battery drain. No matter wich rom. The drain is allways present. In 4.2.2 its 40 % more battery time. I did a full image install from google.
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Can't say I've noticed any detrimental effects on battery time for being on 4.3. If anything its better, if not just the same. Maybe it's still a bit early to tell one way or another, but all my woes seem to be gone. I'm not holding my breath though.
One thing I will say is that it doesn't half spoil a device if you have to spend more time troubleshooting, than actually using the thing.
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lrm537 said:
Can't say I've noticed any detrimental effects on battery time for being on 4.3. If anything its better, if not just the same. Maybe it's still a bit early to tell one way or another, but all my woes seem to be gone. I'm not holding my breath though.
One thing I will say is that it doesn't half spoil a device if you have to spend more time troubleshooting, than actually using the thing.
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Look at the thread. Only troubleshoting... lol. And I just gave my opinion... I m not a begginer and I know every piece of hardware behaves different. Thats what people are doing here. If you don t have nothing to complain you re lucky. Many of us are not the same opinion. Some for one reason others many... but one is sure. 4.3 its definitively not a major update and don t brings much over 4.2.2. They re slowing things with updates waiting for ios 7 is out to bring out klp. This will be a real and great update. For now they are throwing sand to your eyes...
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Look at the thread. Only troubleshoting... lol. And I just gave my opinion... I m not a begginer and I know every piece of hardware behaves different. Thats what people are doing here. If you don t have nothing to complain you re lucky. Many of us are not the same opinion. Some for one reason others many... but one is sure. 4.3 its definitively not a major update and don t brings much over 4.2.2. They re slowing things with updates waiting for ios 7 is out to bring out klp. This will be a real and great update. For now they are throwing sand to your eyes...
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Are you taking the piss? At no point did I respond negatively to your post. If you read, and understood, any of my posts, you'll know full well I'm having issues and I'm currently troubleshooting them.
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I am on stock 4.3 now , stock as it can be. The lag is still present. I literally cannot brows, the browser is sooooo laggy and bugged, don't depend of the browser i am using. I don't know where the problem is , but this is strange behavior for sure. How come it be that only some are affected ? can it be something related with the TRIM option ?
My tablet was sent back to asus for a screen problem, after replacing they returned me the device flashed back to 4.2.2 and not the last 4.3 i had before ? Why is that , maybe the 4.3 does really have some problems here and there....
I also had the browser-produced lag. It was present no matter what ROM I used (Paranoid Android, SlimBean, CyanogenMod, Purity) and no matter what build (JWR66V, JSS15Q, even JWR66Y) I used. I made a strange decision, and downgraded to 4.1.2. Now I'm rather enjoying myself. I hope 4.3 will eventually work on my Nexus 7. Until then, back to the past.
Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.
twe90kid said:
Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.
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Have you updated yet? While I don't have my Note yet, I have read that the update increases battery life, and also fixes lag issues.
Did you install xposed and wanam?
Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Rooted here with exposed and wanam. Even with new update, it's Extremely laggy. It was laggy before Wanam. Didn't use much before rooting.
I got wanam and exposed get a few lag spikes
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I see micro stutter and lag from time to time on stock rom.
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i also was expierencing this on a rooted and none rooted of my phone even after update so i changed my defualt messaging to hangouts and all is good
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Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?
LAGGING everywhere on Build KTU84P N910FXXU1ANIE
Loving my Note 4... but
IT IS VERY LAGGY!!!
As it is, this incredible phone is completely spoiled by a jerky experience, and this is using Google Apps which are usually very smooth, like Play Store, Gmail, Hangouts, Google Plus, and other well made apps like Pulse and Facebook... all usually very smooth, but not with the Note4 I got yesterday. My nexus 5 was much smoother, with a much slower processor.
Do any of you in the UK have the update yet, I have not had it yet?
Cheers
Mark
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?
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Uh? Do I need to root my phone in order to join XDA?
Also I would appreciate what factory ROM has 'served' me, and I would actually use the warranty given for hardware repairs since I'm a clumsy person.
English is not my first language so where do you mean 'sarcastic'?
Sorry.
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You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Ah yes, the ability to search and read has been getting worse and worse.
I'm also getting random lag, even before root, xposed and wanam. Seems to be the same as the s4, s5 and note 2 previously. Once custom kernels are out with better scheduling, it should be remedied.
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You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
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My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
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This is the United States.. If I don't like the phone, even rooted... I can return it.. If they don't let me, just file a credit card claim. I paid the phone, I own it.. I can do whatever I want to the software.
I hate it when people jump in scared of Knox or voiding warranty.
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You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Will check it out.. I don't even use s-health so I didn't think this was the issue.
No lag here
Mine is VERY laggy, throughout all the menus in comaprison to my note3, running cm11 or hyperdrive.
I have xposed (which I think is the main issue, but I need it to run xprivacy), nova, the new firmware update, its rooted (post update) and wanam installed in order to get shealth working.
The phone itself is great, but the over all software implementation is pretty poor. No way a device from a major manufacturer, should be outdone in responsiveness by some AWESOME hobbyists.
With the same setup, as my note3 (side by side), screens change slower, scrolling is slower, and apps open a tad slower. The overall experience is just no where near as smooth as quick.
Now I am comparing 1yr of ROM development (hyper and temasek) vs a 2day release(stock note4), so of course some tweaks need to be made.
If you have a note3 rooted, might want to wait a few weeks before dropping $750.
Also I had to manually up the core speed to 2.7 in faux clock, mine was set at 2.3 for some reason.
The screen is AWESOME, the speaker is surprisingly nice, build quality and feel are top notch (no gaps, or peeling paint, or loose buttons!!!), and the camera really is nice upgrade that I didn't expect I would be happy about.
I only get 42,921 on antutu, which was what I get on my note3 at 2.3ghz ( not over clocked)
That's pretty bad overall performance out the box IMO.
Disabled a lot for me to get rid of the lag. Tons of background apps. Buy main resource hog is the tmobile apps
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