I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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Hi all,
Still have my Note 3 and enjoying it but realise it is slightly long in the tooth and slowing down, so I am thinking of breathing some life back into the old girl and installing a new OS, recommendations and guides would be kindly received?
There are, till now, 40 million tutorials on the web on how to. So...
I'm using Audax L Rom since last year with stock kernel selected. This is running very well. I can recommend it.
You can find it in the forum here.
I installed it the short way without taking care of knox, because note 3 was already out of waranty.
Regards
mayerflash
Thanks for the reply, again scuse the noobie question, but I hear Knox is major draw on the phone's system, I presume a root and a new OS would get rid of this, also would all my apps work on the new OS, is this dependant on which one I install?
Audax L Rom is already de-knox-ed.
Usually all apps will work unless they don't rely on a specific kernel (usually stock).
For those you can select to use the stock kernel during installation. (Like i do. )
Apps which need knox won't work on this rom, of course.
I always preferred Cyanogenmod, thus I recommend temasek's CM13 builds + OpenGapps STOCK, see my sig which always shows up to date what I use and consider a good daily driver for home and company use
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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It is N910F.
The link you provided is simply stock android MM?
Yes stock MM, stock is in my experience the most stable and bug free rom build. But the link is for n910g unfortunately.
Stock ROM, and then debloat yourself. Quite honestly speaking, and no offence to anyone, there are no good ROMs available for Note 4. In fact I myself might have not got the phone if I realised the development section is like this. And I am not interested in ported ROMs, so even though there are many available I won't go that way, and I am too dumb to make a ROM for myself, so stock ROM it is.
I agree, stock rom rooted and debloat it, and apply msm tweaks. If you want, xposed as well.
Utini said:
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
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You must flash samsung based rom to have all soen features and samsung apps. I reconnemed kurama rom which in using , its battery friendly, fast and stock based. If you going to flash kurama rom you must flash modem and bootloader for the rom to boot up (only can be flashed from pc with odin)
Hi people. I have been into custom ROMs on my Note 3 (SM-N900W8) in the past, and never found a stable one. So I ended up reverting back to stock Samsung and just using my phone the old fashioned, boring way. Now that I see a newer version of each of the ROMs I've tried, I'm thinking that I may want to get back into installing custom ROMs again.
I can't quite remember what the rules of engagement were when it comes to kernels associated to certain ROMs. I really want to go back to KitKat, as it was my favorite Android version. Right now, I'm on Samsung's stock 5.0 firmware.
AFAIK, you need a pre-5.0 kernel in order to install anything below 5.0. Is that correct? Also, if I wanted to try an Android 6 or 7 ROM (just for the hell of it), am I required to use a different kernel?
Like I said, I'm way out of the loop and need to be re-educated. I'm not even sure what to really search anymore.
Bonus Question: What's the most stable and bug-free Note 3 (Qualcomm) ROM out there?
Thanks people :good::good::good::laugh:
, if I wanted to try an Android 6 or 7 ROM (just for the hell of it), am I required to use a different kernel?
YES
What's the most stable and bug-free Note 3 (Qualcomm) ROM out there?
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I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.
1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom
BetaPix said:
1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom
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Thanks for the info mate! I bought the Mi A1 because it has a strong modding community.
I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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I have the exact same "addiction" and i came to the same conclusion: I've bought this phone because its "pure" android so i wont mess with it! Flash a custom of 9.0 just to tell my friends that i got it first? Stock will always be stock, and until the device become unsupported i will stick to it. Then, flashing custom roms will be a addiction again :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Sorry to be kinda off-topic on this but I'd like to ask a question regarding custom ROMs (Treble or not) regarding the Mi A1.
I've tried some of them, and usually what makes me get back to stock is the unlocking delay. There's always a delay when pressing the button and the screen turning on.
Have tried LOS15.1, 2-3 Treble ROMs (I think it's normal that it's like that on every one of the Treble ones if it's a vendor issue) and I think one of the Pie ones.
Am I doing something wrong or is this how it is supposed to be? Is there any Pie ROM that doesn't have that issue?
If there isn't, I don't think it's worth flashing a custom ROM. Untouched Stock with Gcam is pretty neat.
kudos1uk said:
I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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Yeah, I've tried liquid remix 10.0.1, and I must say, sticking to stock is the best. Don't get me wrong, I really like custom roms, but after installing it, I realised that it's not even worth it. Plus, I don't really like to much customisation. You could say I'm more of an apple sheep. I'll probably switch to custom roms once this phone gets outdated. All the custom mods I need is root. For me, the best solution is to stock to the stock rom with root access.
Hi,
I face the same questions as WhatzIt2Ya, the brand new A1 is in front of me, currently empty and up to date with latest October update, and I ask myself what to do.
The phone will be my daily driver, so the encryption is mandatory. That's why I'm sad to see LineageOS Pie has some problems with it as of today. I run LineageOS on my parents' Nexus 5 and it rocks.
We have basically five possibilities:
1. Don't touch anything, keep the original ROM, the locked bootloader, OTA and so on. As long as the security patches arrive, why not. However, no TWRP and no root = no nandroid backups and no Titanium Backup, i.e. I'll lose lots of time in one year to backup the phone and configure it again when I'll take the custom ROM route, and I of course will to keep the phone updated.
2. Just unlock the bootloader. The phone will wipe itself, but that's not a problem, it's empty anyway. TWRP can be installed later to perform the nandroid backup.
3. Install TWRP and keep the stock ROM with root eventually. A fellow developer has figured out how to convert OTA to images installable with TWRP, so basically it's one OTA per month vs one TWRP install per month.
4. Install some custom ROM. Which one?
5. Treblize the phone. That's the future, but are the ROMs ready?
In 2018 Android is still behind Apple regarding backups. I have a work provided iPhone and all I need to do before getting mad is a simple iTunes backup. The phone can be restored in exactly the same state later, without my intervention. On Android I need to figure out how to backup things one by one (icons in folders, call history, SMS, all chats, etc., etc...) and to configure the new phone again.
And with root one loses the possibility to use some banking apps, so we add yet another trick to hide we are rooted. It's fun and rewarding, but takes too much time.
WhatzIt2Ya said:
I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.
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Generally well regarded roms like Lineageos which are developed by 'good' developers will be more stable. Some volunteers who develop lineageos builds have a better track record than others. "Official" lineageos requires volunteers to pledge to follow a set of rules which include things like timely updates on major security patches, release updates for x number of months etc. Lineage is generally quite stable because volunteers are working off from a good platform. If you are extra worried about security, you might want to stick with stock because who really has the time to keep reading through the commits even if the code is open sourced?
Lineage has a built in root which will not pass safetynet so don't use it if you want to pass. Or use Magisk to root instead. But Magisk will need regular updates to pass safetynet and its a continuing cat and mouse game where google will fix safetynet and magisk will fail safetynet until the next update.....
Edit- I forgot to add that just unlocking the bootloader will cause safetynet to fail so every Lineageos phone would fail safetynet even if root was not enabled.
If you have to ask about treble, don't do it. Noobs have bricked their phones and there are threads that they have started crying for help.
Custom roms are all developed by volunteers and the level of testing is dodgy - who has time for that when they are working on it in their spare time? Occasionally there might be mistakes and phones will get bricked or lose wifi/BT functionality like one early version of a custom rom which wrote to parts of the firmware which should have been normally left untouched.