PIE Inhibiting Bottom of Screen - PAC Q&A

I flashed PAC onto my Galaxy Note 10.1 just a few days ago when I ran across the PIE section in the settings, as I started toying with it I fell in love with how the nav bar was no longer hanging around the bottom all of the time, and I certainly liked PIE's interface better. However, ever since I started using the bottom 1/2 inch (interestingly about the size of the nav bar) hasn't been responsive to any touch input other than PIE. For example, if I was typing something, only the top of the spacebar would recognize a touch as a space, but the other, bottommost part would still operate if I swiped up to reveal PIE.
Is anyone aware of a fix to this problem, or is it just a tradeoff of having PIE, and this is just the way it is?
--John Galt from my GT-N8013

You can disable pie from the settings menu. You should also consider upgrading to 4.4 as JB is no longer receiving updates.

Well I know that I can disable PIE, but I want to know if the bottom of the screen not being functional is just something I have to deal with or if there is something that I can do about it.
I'm not aware of a 4.4 update for PAC for my device. I'm willing to try a nightly release, but I'm not sure how to tell what version a ROM is from the name of the .zip.
For example, what version is: pac_n8013-nightly-20140122.zip ? I can't anything except for "pac", "n8013" (my model no.), "nightly", and "2014".
The "0122" I'm not sure of.

Galt42 said:
Well I know that I can disable PIE, but I want to know if the bottom of the screen not being functional is just something I have to deal with or if there is something that I can do about it.
I'm not aware of a 4.4 update for PAC for my device. I'm willing to try a nightly release, but I'm not sure how to tell what version a ROM is from the name of the .zip.
For example, what version is: pac_n8013-nightly-20140122.zip ? I can't anything except for "pac", "n8013" (my model no.), "nightly", and "2014".
The "0122" I'm not sure of.
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You can move the pie trigger to the side of the screen to see if you get the full touch screen back...
0122 is the date of the nightly build. Up to 0128 is 4.3 and from 0303 will be PAC-4.4
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Thank you for the clarification. I could be missing something, but there are no ROMs that have any release after 0128 (which I have now) for my device.
Seems like I'll have to wait for an update to roll around, but until then I'll keep playing with the settings and see if perhaps I have something not set properly.
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Hybrid Properties
As I was thinking about the correlation between this problem and the nav bar, I realized that the nav bar was likely still active, but not visible because I clicked on the PIE fullscreen button in the quick settings. So I went to Hybrid Properties, clicked on interface, and set the "Nav. bar" slider to 0%, and clicked Apply. When that didn't work, I went back to that screen and found that the Nav. bar slider was all the way back at 100%. I've tried several times to get this to work, including adjusting the "Size" slider, clicking "Tablet UI" in the Launch screen and applying that, but nothing has stopped that slider from returning to it's default setting. Anyone know why this might be?

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[Q] Possible to move soft keys yet?

I have seen several posts with this question, but none with answers. Has anyone found a way to move the soft keys to one side or another? I keep hitting them when I type (did it while typing this ironically). Never did make sense to me to have a touch sensitive home button right underneath one of the most often used buttons on the typing board. In any case, I have scoured the net looking for an answer and can't find one. Any know if I missed it somewhere? Thanks in advance.
Try a tablet mod ROM, it has the navigation keys bunched up in the bottom left corner. Hope this helps.
Where?
Appreciate the info. Where do I find that one? I have seen a lot of different ROMs for N7, but nothing denoted as "tablet ROM" and none that have mentioned moving the soft keys as a feature.
sikagoon7 said:
You can also. Change the DPI to 160 and achieve the same effect. Tablet UI on Nexus 7
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Sorry for the n00b questions, but this is my first tablet...where do I change that? I have looked though the settings and have not seen a place to do that. I am running a rooted but (almost) stock ROM. (Manually loaded 4.1.2) And will that change the rest of the viewing area?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontroldemo
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toidimaet said:
Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontroldemo/QUOTE]
This looks like an awesome little app. But I don't see where to hide the nav bar. Is that one of the Pro features? (It is a sweet little app either way.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
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This sends me back to JB 4.1.1 though doesn't it? I have already upgraded to 4.1.2 (Though at this point I could not tell you what the difference is other than home screen rotation.) I didn't know 4.1.1 well enough to know it. Only had the tablet a few days.
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Might be, it definitely is available in the pro version though.
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[Q] Navigation Bar not working in Portrait working in Landscape in Nexus 4

My Nexus 4 has Stock ROM Android 4.3 & the Navigation bar at the bottom does not respond to touch in Portrait position but works in Landscape position for applications where I can use the Landscape mode. In the Landscape mode the screen rotates the position of the Navigation bar.
I have through the developer option selected the Show Touches option which shows me the exact touch position on screen as a blob. In the portrait position I can see the touch points on the Navigation bar the home screen works for Google Now but the back & task do not work however I can see from the Show touch it registers the touch but no execution of the command happens. The same Navigation bar in Landscape mode works perfectly as required. These developments are after the OTA 4.3 upgrade. Can someone help me to either remove the navigation bar in the Stock ROM Android 4.3 as now I have an application from Google store called Button Saviour (Non Root) working perfectly. I have also observed that the due to the Show Touch option activation it generates sometimes on the navigation bar area on the extreme left a clear Show touch blob where as there is no one touching the screen. This Show touch blob sometimes rapidly oscillates horizontally in the Navigation bar area & which ever icons it crosses it automatically triggers them as well randomly. On touching the screen in the Navigation Bar at that time does not make the back or task button work but without touching I can the Show touch blob while oscillating managing to make it work while crossing over the respective button icons.
So the hardware does not seem to be the issue but some bug in the new 4.3 which is triggering this weird behaviour. I use the Nexus 4 mostly in Portrait mode hence it is frustrating to now suddenly not have the Navigation bar functional the way it was suppose to work. Can some one help & guide me on what to do to resolve this problem.
The softkeys are enabled within the framework.
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manojsap said:
My Nexus 4 has Stock ROM Android 4.3 & the Navigation bar at the bottom does not respond to touch in Portrait position but works in Landscape position for applications where I can use the Landscape mode. In the Landscape mode the screen rotates the position of the Navigation bar.
I have through the developer option selected the Show Touches option which shows me the exact touch position on screen as a blob. In the portrait position I can see the touch points on the Navigation bar the home screen works for Google Now but the back & task do not work however I can see from the Show touch it registers the touch but no execution of the command happens. The same Navigation bar in Landscape mode works perfectly as required. These developments are after the OTA 4.3 upgrade. Can someone help me to either remove the navigation bar in the Stock ROM Android 4.3 as now I have an application from Google store called Button Saviour (Non Root) working perfectly. I have also observed that the due to the Show Touch option activation it generates sometimes on the navigation bar area on the extreme left a clear Show touch blob where as there is no one touching the screen. This Show touch blob sometimes rapidly oscillates horizontally in the Navigation bar area & which ever icons it crosses it automatically triggers them as well randomly. On touching the screen in the Navigation Bar at that time does not make the back or task button work but without touching I can the Show touch blob while oscillating managing to make it work while crossing over the respective button icons.
So the hardware does not seem to be the issue but some bug in the new 4.3 which is triggering this weird behaviour. I use the Nexus 4 mostly in Portrait mode hence it is frustrating to now suddenly not have the Navigation bar functional the way it was suppose to work. Can some one help & guide me on what to do to resolve this problem.
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same issue here even i try a factory reset
I flash the stock rom again and no clue of what to do
The exact same issue here, started behaving quirky since 4.3 and went bat**** crazy after the update second 4.3 ota (1.8mb patch google released recently). i used developer options to show the on screen touch blobs as well and it registers touches in the nav bar area, it just will not work in portriat (or rather that section of the screen) It is extremely frustrating.
I even went as far as to use adb and fastboot to restore my phone to stock 4.3 which would remove all files and place a stock 4.3 directly from dev.google but still It doesn't work.
The same issue
Im having this exact issue just a few days after i install a new update i hope that its a software issue :crying: and if is not warranty will cover it?
Navigation Bar issue
Same problem here , wont respond on portrait mode.
I did try to downgrade my android version to 4.2.2 (from 4.3) after the factory reset did not work, that did not work either.
Any ideas? could use some help
I have the same problem, I tried to restore the 4.3, the 4.2, but the problem remains, I also tried the cyanogenmod and 4.4, but it still does not work the navbar in portrait mode ..
No one knows a solution to the problem? You may have a hardware problem? Who takes care of the navbar?
Having the same issue here. Works in Landscape but not portrait. It went spastic this morning randomnly opening the clock and pullin the bar down itself. Show touches showed it registering touches all around the nav bar then suddenly it stopped. I cant use the bar now at all in portrait but the random touches are gone. I downloaded a touch detector and it shows all the way up to where the nav bar would be then deadzone, but fine in landscape again
anyone know a solution to the problem? I tried to put the last KRT16S factory image, but the problem is always the same ...
sorschumi said:
anyone know a solution to the problem? I tried to put the last KRT16S factory image, but the problem is always the same ...
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Before update to 4.4, I installed purity rom, and in purity system settings there was option to change navigation bar height. Default height is 48dp, but you can change to 52dp and the buttons working. Not ideal solution, sometimes you must to hit button few times, but it's working!
But, after I update my N4 to 4.4 kitkat, and install purity rom for 4.4, there is no option to set button height to 52dp (max heigth is 48dp-default height) I hope so that purity rom will be updated and return option to set to 52dp.
Same issue here
Tried lot of things still not working .........
pls someone find the solution.......
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Tried lot of things still not working .........
pls someone find the solution.......
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I think it's a hardware problem. Mine just went bad as well.
I have this problem now, too. Google now NAVRING still works to open Google Now from the middle nav button, which is why I do not understand why they nav bars do not work at seemingly the bottom of the screen. It just seems like that part of the screen has died, though some times it randomly works....... what the hell is this?
Huawei ascend mate navbar problem
I have same problem. And not only that my landscape control also got messed up After factory reset.
Also when I try to scroll down the web page in landscape mode it dosent work on the same area. So does this mean screen is screen is not registering my touch.
Some times the middle button start acting funny. It operates by itself even the internet is off. Like virus or some thing I did checked with antivirus nothing found. After activating show touch option it is shows Google shortcut is always pressed.
Dont know how to fix. Dont know the reason pls. Help. Xda.
Do you use dt2w? For me, after enabling that feature this would happen after a while. The borders of the screen would become unresponsive. I disabled dt2w, rebooted and it was fine again.
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Hi to everyone!
I have the same problem since some days with the nav bar on stock 4.4.2. Factory reset + rom flash via fastboot + CM 11 innstallation did not help at all. I'll bring my Nexus 4 today back to the retailer for reparation / replacing.
I'll inform you guys about the report of service center but it can take up to 45 days.
Thanks. This works for me
haris0032 said:
Before update to 4.4, I installed purity rom, and in purity system settings there was option to change navigation bar height. Default height is 48dp, but you can change to 52dp and the buttons working. Not ideal solution, sometimes you must to hit button few times, but it's working!
But, after I update my N4 to 4.4 kitkat, and install purity rom for 4.4, there is no option to set button height to 52dp (max heigth is 48dp-default height) I hope so that purity rom will be updated and return option to set to 52dp.
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Hi, I was facing the same issue on my mako. It just started without any notice. Being a flashaholic I thought it could be due to something I installed. Tried a lot of differnt ROMS including stock but no luck. Read somewhere about the "Show touch" function in the developer options and found that almost 7.5mm of the bottom of screen was not responding to touch. I then installed the stock 4.4.3 ROM, rooted it and installed gravity box. In Gravity I changed the navigation bar height to 120% and selected "keep at bottom" for landscape. I am now able to use the phone. I wish some custom ROMS start implementing 52dp height option so we could use these directly. I tried using gravity with Mahdi ROM but there is some conflict and I cant see the recents button. Also, the NB reverts to original and it needs to be enabled again manually
But thanks anyways. I dont want to buy a new phone for the next 6 months and this will work well for me.
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[Q] Carbon Lockscreen Targets

I am using Carbon ROM (Unofficial 20140107-2007) on my Verizon LG G2 and can't change any of the lock screen targets. Am I missing something here? I tried searching as well and either couldn't find the right key words or there wasn't anything, and since I am a noob couldn't post in the ROM thread. Anyone got any advice?
So far it's an awesome ROM, love everything about it, and will love it even more when the menu buttons can be altered.
Is the option in there or you just can't find it? If its there it might just be a bug. I think they just implemented that in the last few days so it might be a bit quirky.
JRJ442 said:
Is the option in there or you just can't find it? If its there it might just be a bug. I think they just implemented that in the last few days so it might be a bit quirky.
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The options are there for me to change them, but no matter what I select, it stays "empty". I am actually using Cover lockscreen for now until the company forces me to put a passcode to lock my device.

Software annoyances with Marshmallow/6P

I recently switched from a Droid Turbo to a 6P for the sole reason of I needed the unlocked radio abilities that the Nexus line offers and I was unable to obtain with other phones. (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx I have plenty of threads on this around). Aside from the Verizon bloat and added software, I loved that phone.
The Nexus 6P is a very good phone on it's own, aside from the size, but I am having a few adjustment issues that some of you might be able to help me out with. I've read that most switchers from the Droid line of phones are unhappy with the Nexus Active Display compared to the Moto version. Just curious if anybody has found a worthy software that has been able to replicate or was able to port the Moto Display over to the 6P? I would be very interested and even willing to shell out $ to help that progress. The Nexus version just seems so unfinished. It very rarely wakes up upon movement and I really enjoyed how I could just wave my hand near my Turbo and I would get the time and notifications.
But my biggest issue with the software of the 6P is the fact that the bottom navigation buttons are software based and do not stay put or visible at all times. I hold the device mostly with my left hand in landscape mode and it doesn't matter which way I am holding it (the top is to the right or left) the navigation buttons are on the right side. If they would just stay put where they are supposed to be, on the bottom of the phone, I could easily use this phone one handed in landscape mode. But I cannot currently. The second part of this issue is the immersive full screen mode where they keep making my navigation buttons disappear! Ok, the screen is big enough, I do not need that extra 4 mm of screen real estate. Leave the buttons visible so I can use them please. I hate the extra screen tap and then delay to be able to back out. The video player is even worse, only allowing a small x to be pressed to back out. I've tried Immersive Full Screen Mode and a few others including Power Toggle but none lock the immersive full screen off. So does anybody know of or have a remedy to lock the navigation buttons and keep them visible? I'm also of the apparent minority that prefers the notification bar to always be visible as well.
Thanks for any help offered.
You may have to wait till some custom roms hit the scene. Sounds like a rom with pie controls would be what you seek.
Yea I was afraid of that. I was hoping there was another secret menu out there that allows control of these features.
I am annoyed with the stock messaging app...does a decent job, however it always crashes when attempting to access through the app switcher. I hate having to go back to the home screen to access my text messages.
unhappy with the Nexus Active Display compared to the Moto version. Just curious if anybody has found a worthy software that has been able to replicate or was able to port the Moto Display over to the 6P?
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acDisplay worked pretty well on my HTC One.
Looks pretty good, but it disables my fingerprint security. With it on I can press the power button and gain access or just swipe up. If I use the built in lock screen, after unlocking with the fingerprint, it still gives the acdisplay lock screen. Perhaps it just needs a marshmallow update to work specifically with this phone. I will continue to monitor it. Thanks for the suggestion.
qoncept said:
acDisplay worked pretty well on my HTC One.
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grubbster said:
You may have to wait till some custom roms hit the scene. Sounds like a rom with pie controls would be what you seek.
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wile e said:
Yea I was afraid of that. I was hoping there was another secret menu out there that allows control of these features.
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I'd load Xposed with gravity box. Keeps you on AOSP and you'll have PIE, and many options for the nav bar alone.
How does one get this immersive display where the navigation buttons hide? I'm curious about this feature
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It's built into the apps. The Google Photos app, any video playback, a lot of apps and games that I have automatically go into it. There's also plenty of apps, I mentioned one above, that you can install and get immersive all the time. Be aware though, I got myself into a bit of a jam as it removed the back and home buttons and I couldn't exit a certain app.
rice923 said:
How does one get this immersive display where the navigation buttons hide? I'm curious about this feature
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On-screen keyboard missing after forced Oreo upgrade

The other day, I came home to discover my Nexus Player had updated itself to Android 8 (without my consent, of course). Now I find that I no longer have an on-screen keyboard. When I try to type something, it prompts me to "Use the keyboard on your mobile device." Even if I connect using the Android TV remote app from my phone, I still can't type. Directional buttons work, but typing into my phone's keyboard does nothing.
I have checked Settings > Keyboard > Manage keyboards, which shows toggle switches for Gboard (disabled) and Virtual Remote Keyboard (enabled), however they are both greyed out and I cannot change the toggles or do anything. If I go to "Current keyboard," it's completely blank.
Any clue what might be going on here? This is extremely frustrating. I never wanted to upgrade to Oreo in the first place, because I didn't want to lose app switching support. Now I feel like I'm going to have to waste my time downgrading to 7.1.2. Thanks a lot, Google!
same exact issue. doesn't seem to be too common though. I have tried everything I can think of to fix it with no luck. I hope someone with a little more knowledge than myself can help me out here. I am two seconds away from buying a new set top box. I hope the final build looks nothing like the beta I was running awhile back, or i'll have to find another system all together. wish they would spend a little more time making sure there are no bugs but hell, i'll be happy if someone here can help in the mean time.
Enable korean/any other language input in settings. Itll come back
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