Will the Z1s ever see KitKat ? - Xperia Z1 General

Just looking to gauge the feelings of the z1s owners regarding updates. Given that we may never be able flash stock FTFs we will be waiting for an extra few months at least after the non-carrier phones get updates. Assuming we get any updates at all. It took 5 months for the Xperia z 6906 to get 4.2.2 after the unbranded devices. 4.3 is nowhere in sight. Of course updates are not the be all end all or we would all buy a Nexus 5, but it is dissapointing.
Accessories is another area where we are severely limited also.
I dont regret getting the Z1s, the $100 visa and PS+ offers alone made it a worthwhile purchase. Im happy with the build quality, camera and overall user experience.
Just looking for feedback from the owners here.

I think it will and my gut tells me it won't take us as long to get it as it did with T-Mobile Xperia Z owners. A few reasons I feel this was way.
1. Sony is really building a good relationship with T-Mobile. It seems to be growing more and more.
2. This phone is already selling better then the Z did for The-Mobile. More owners means more hungry customers awaiting the update, word of mouth.
3. Sony is doing more to expand brand awareness in NA.
Those all have a lot to do with the priority of the update. I say once the non-carrier branded phones get it, maybe 2-3 months later we'll get it? Just a guess...
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Kanes_Inferno said:
I think it will and my gut tells me it won't take us as long to get it as it did with T-Mobile Xperia Z owners. A few reasons I feel this was way.
1. Sony is really building a good relationship with T-Mobile. It seems to be growing more and more.
2. This phone is already selling better then the Z did for The-Mobile. More owners means more hungry customers awaiting the update, word of mouth.
3. Sony is doing more to expand brand awareness in NA.
Those all have a lot to do with the priority of the update. I say once the non-carrier branded phones get it, maybe 2-3 months later we'll get it? Just a guess...
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These are all good points. I was on the fence about the Z1s and ultimately went and got the Z1 Compact instead from overseas. Anyway, one other thing I wanted to mention is that T-Mobile recently has been very good with updates. I have an LG G2 on T-Mobile which I purchased thinking there was absolutely no chance of timely updates. To my surprise, KitKat arrived on Friday and made my day. Know this isn't a Sony and I'm not trying to go off-topic here, but I have been very impressed with T-Mobile releasing updates over the last few weeks. Maybe the same will hold true for the Z1S. It would be horrible for them to drop support for it. I think the ball is in Sony's court at this point since none of the phones have KitKat.
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All three are very great points. Admittedly I am not as confident mainly because I see Sony releasing almost one or two new phones per month and I fear they are stretching themselves thin on resources to push out updates. I believe their intent is 18 months of updates for Xperia devices.
Their T-Mobile relationship is an interesting one, I have to admit that I wasn't happy with the fact that Sony refused to release an unbranded LTE Z or Z1 in the US. I also couldn't understand why they were doing this. I think its now clearly obvious they did this to avoid competing with T-Mobile. I suppose they have to take steps to build relationships with the carrier but I was disappointed all the same to have to wait for an LTE version. It appears that the converse of this is also true in that any device that DOES make it into the Sony Store (physical or online) with LTE, is likely NOT going to end up on any carrier (think Z Ultra).
Personally, I think 5-6 months (after Z1) wait before we see KitKat on the Z1s. Nice to hear that it is selling well though.

goon3r said:
All three are very great points. Admittedly I am not as confident mainly because I see Sony releasing almost one or two new phones per month and I fear they are stretching themselves thin on resources to push out updates. I believe their intent is 18 months of updates for Xperia devices.
Their T-Mobile relationship is an interesting one, I have to admit that I wasn't happy with the fact that Sony refused to release an unbranded LTE Z or Z1 in the US. I also couldn't understand why they were doing this. I think its now clearly obvious they did this to avoid competing with T-Mobile. I suppose they have to take steps to build relationships with the carrier but I was disappointed all the same to have to wait for an LTE version. It appears that the converse of this is also true in that any device that DOES make it into the Sony Store (physical or online) with LTE, is likely NOT going to end up on any carrier (think Z Ultra).
Personally, I think 5-6 months (after Z1) wait before we see KitKat on the Z1s. Nice to hear that it is selling well though.
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Carriers have to get their act together. If the Z1 is going to get KK in April, the Tmobile version (almost exact same software) should get it no more than a month later. I might throw a fit if I have to wait till October. By then, 4.5 or 5.0 will be out!
At least let us unlock the BL so we can get KK on there ourselves. Sheesh.

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Carriers have to get their act together. If the Z1 is going to get KK in April, the Tmobile version (almost exact same software) should get it no more than a month later. I might throw a fit if I have to wait till October. By then, 4.5 or 5.0 will be out!
At least let us unlock the BL so we can get KK on there ourselves. Sheesh.
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I was planning to wait until the Z3 for my next upgrade, with the hopes of native wireless charging as that is the feature I wish for the most. I can say though that if we are looking at a 5+ month wait for Kit Kat, my Z1s will end up on eBay and will be the last carrier branded device I buy for a while.

Sony promised Kitkat update by Q1 2014, we should get it before end of this month.

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Sony promised Kitkat update by Q1 2014, we should get it before end of this month.
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Then we still have to wait for T-mobile.
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This month.
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Z1 Gets in April, so I think that every new Sony phone will get it then
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Moze666 said:
Z1 Gets in April, so I think that every new Sony phone will get it then
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We all wish.
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Don_Perrignon said:
Then we still have to wait for T-mobile.
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The only thing I'll give to tmobile is that they have to implement wifi calling. At least thats some excuse. With ATT, Verizon, and all the other ones, they don't have to do anything but add bloatware that probably needed no change anyway.
Microsoft is doing it right as of now with their developer update program thing (I forgot what it's called). Opt-in, skip the carriers, and get your updates when the manufacturer releases it, not the carrier.

Those of you saying April 2014, have you seen anything from Sony explicitly state a Z1s timeframe ? (Link ?)
I've seen tons of articles/blogs talking about the Z, Z1, Ultra, Tablet Z etc. getting KitKat, but I have not seen anything mentioned about the Z1s.

goon3r said:
Those of you saying April 2014, have you seen anything from Sony explicitly state a Z1s timeframe ? (Link ?)
I've seen tons of articles/blogs talking about the Z, Z1, Ultra, Tablet Z etc. getting KitKat, but I have not seen anything mentioned about the Z1s.
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The Z1s is the same as the Z1...let's be real here, the only difference is T-Mobile. Again, I say 2-3 months after the Z1 gets it. I'd be surprised if we got it sooner but not shocked, no way it takes longer than that though.

Kanes_Inferno said:
The Z1s is the same as the Z1...let's be real here, the only difference is T-Mobile. Again, I say 2-3 months after the Z1 gets it. I'd be surprised if we got it sooner but not shocked, no way it takes longer than that though.
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Given that the xperia z just got 4.3 today when the International model got it in November/December, I'm not so sure when it comes to T-Mobile and their track record updating Sony phones.
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I think I might be trading my Z1s in for an LG G2, or maybe a Nexus 5... When I bought this phone, I didn't expect it to be such a fringe device, with no Root, or unlocked bootloader.
It's a nice phone, with fantastic specs, 32GB, and a wonderful screen... but I'm getting a bad feeling about the speed of updates, and never achieving root.

jmwils3 said:
Given that the xperia z1s just got 4.3 today when the International model got it in November/December, I'm not so sure when it comes to T-Mobile and their track record updating Sony phones.
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Today??

Don_Perrignon said:
Today??
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Sorry, I meant the xperia z. Stupid autocorrect, lol
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jmwils3 said:
Sorry, I meant the xperia z. Stupid autocorrect, lol
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LOL, I was like, "what the?!"

Don_Perrignon said:
LOL, I was like, "what the?!"
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Yes, I would be quite upset to get the one z1s that didn't have 4.3,lol.
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I have a strong feeling they will let the z2 sell for 3-6 months or so before releasing kit kat.
it would just make more sense for sony to do this atleast from a marketing position,
besides we only just got jelly bean 4.3 in February
si id estimate a july-september kit kat launch

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AT&T Snags New Android Gingerbread Smartphone (Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc)

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Sunday, 06 March 2011 08:34 Valeria Wilson
AT&T seems to be a roll ever since its lost exclusivity to the iPhone 4. In their build up of high-end Android smartphones to match the lineup of the Verizon iPhone and Droids, AT&T has already delivered us the HTC Inspire 4G, Motorola Atrix 4G and shortly the Samsung Infuse 4G. However a recent FCC filing of the Android 2.3 Gingerbread Sony Xperia Arc shows that AT&T has another high-end Android headed its way.
Sony Xperia Arc joining Motorola Atrix, HTC Inspire, Samsung Infuse
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc packs a super slim body, 4.2-inch touchscreen display, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 512MB RAM, a microSD slot with upto 32GB storage support, 1500 mAh battery and the icing on the cake, Android 2.3 Gingerbread preloaded.
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc passed through the FCC sporting GSM AT&T bands (including HSPA/HSUPA, UTMS 2/5).
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc release date and price tag unconfirmed
AT&T has yet to announce the price or release date of the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc but word on the street has speculated an April release date and $750 unlocked price tag at this time.
good news for AT&T customers
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confirmed
Lancez said:
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Can you unlock it?
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Can you unlock it?
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yes, but have to wait a week or 2 after the phone hit market
750 for an unlocked unit? hmmmm sounds good
wonder how much with at&t xD
My guess is $199.99 with 2 yrs contract.
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750 for an unlocked unit? hmmmm sounds good
wonder how much with at&t xD
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Anyone think Arc has a better chance than X10 on AT&T? I still prefer the style of X10 over Atrix, HTC Inspire, and Samsung Infuse but I doubt the common customer will care about SE's Arc just like they didn't care about X10.
I've been mostly using SE phones (X10) every since I got W910. After reading about Samsung Infuse here , I am seriously thinking to jump from SE train as to me Arc already looks outdated compared to many of the Android phones already out there on AT&T and T-mobile. No front camera, no dedicated Search button, less RAM compared to the other latest phones, etc, etc.
If Infuse is no different than the other cheap Samsung crap, I might still be back to Arc but just can't get why SE still keeps announcing their phones way ahead of release date and then make them look outdated when it finally gets to the customer. They should have at least got a front camera on Arc to attract new customers instead of just SE fans. I know most of us here don't care about front camera nor do people who really care about it probably won't use it but if they want to sell phones, this is almost mandatory these days.
must admit I would have gone for the neo, if I wasn't so seduced by the look of the arc.. Front camera would be good. SE said they couldn't fit one into the body of the arc.
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I really don't get why everyone wants a front camera? Does anyone ever do video calls? It's bloody weird talking to your phone, holding it in front of you! I've honestly never seen anyone do it, even though we have nationwide 3G and a lot of people have a phone with a front-facing camera!
will sonystyle usa sell this phone unlock when released?
I would use it for video calls if I could. But not in public! Probably use it to chat to my kids when I'm away from home with work.
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Ambroos said:
I really don't get why everyone wants a front camera? Does anyone ever do video calls? It's bloody weird talking to your phone, holding it in front of you! I've honestly never seen anyone do it, even though we have nationwide 3G and a lot of people have a phone with a front-facing camera!
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It's not about using. It is one of those features that is usually one of the top features listed when comparing features. Front camera's were quite common few years back in SE's dumb phones like W910. Since it's being hardly used they probably decided to leave it out. But once, iPhone 4 got that feature everyone (even the freakin media) talk like iPhone invented it. But iPhone 4 sure did a great job in making it work on WiFi.
Maybe Arc not having front camera is good for us as SE has to price it low or drop the price pretty fast as it will be a hard sell for them when compared to the competition. Especially on AT&T as most common people will fall for dual-core/front facing camera of Atrix, huge screen of Samsung Infuse, or low price of HTC Inspire. So, it will be X10 all over again for Arc on AT&T. I hope it can be purchased for $399 without contract like I got X10.
kitsVA said:
It's not about using. It is one of those features that is usually one of the top features listed when comparing features. Front camera's were quite common few years back in SE's dumb phones like W910. Since it's being hardly used they probably decided to leave it out. But once, iPhone 4 got that feature everyone (even the freakin media) talk like iPhone invented it. But iPhone 4 sure did a great job in making it work on WiFi.
Maybe Arc not having front camera is good for us as SE has to price it low or drop the price pretty fast as it will be a hard sell for them when compared to the competition. Especially on AT&T as most common people will fall for dual-core/front facing camera of Atrix, huge screen of Samsung Infuse, or low price of HTC Inspire. So, it will be X10 all over again for Arc on AT&T. I hope it can be purchased for $399 without contract like I got X10.
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Aha, so it's more due to the stupidity of the average American customer
Well, if you want a simfree contractless phone you could always have one shipped from Europe! Don't count on $399 though, $499 would be more in line with the EU prices.
Ambroos said:
Aha, so it's more due to the stupidity of the average American customer
Well, if you want a simfree contractless phone you could always have one shipped from Europe! Don't count on $399 though, $499 would be more in line with the EU prices.
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I can't wait for AT&T to get this phone. So, I will jump for a SIM free version as soon as one with AT&T 3G is available.
AT&T dropped Atrix 4G no-commitment price to $499 and HTC Inspire is only $399. I hope they get Arc soon. It definitely has to be $499 or even less as Moto is much more popular seller for AT&T than our beloved SE.
Ambroos said:
I really don't get why everyone wants a front camera? Does anyone ever do video calls? It's bloody weird talking to your phone, holding it in front of you! I've honestly never seen anyone do it, even though we have nationwide 3G and a lot of people have a phone with a front-facing camera!
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They want to give more money to ATT. In the past ATT charged extra for video calling and had special plans in place. Now you will have to have wifi connection or huge data plan to use video.
Every SE phone in the EU had front facing camera, but the USA ones Didn't.
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AT&T has yet to announce the price or release date of the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc but word on the street has speculated an April release date and $750 unlocked price tag at this time.
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ROFLMAO $750? It's pretty but it is hardware challenged especially since they say that they have unannounced phones with better specs a few quarters away.
It can't cost more than a iphone.... last year's iphone....
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For sure? Any news on release date?
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update:
Arc and Neo service is running now

[Q] When is vzw releasing the Play

Is there any news regarding this? Its like we are always the last to get new devices... and news about them.
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Sorry i dont know
Verizon officially now acknowledges the Xperia Play, but don't get too happy. It's listed as coming soon, in an online catalog for Winter 2011.
That's a huge window of time... but at least VZ is now saying something.
http://engt.co/jy11sc
I have checked every day for the past month with nothing. All of the news was on Rogers releasing the play. So hopefully now the only thing to focus on is Verizons release date.
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Out of curiosity I dropped into my local Verizon store and found a duplicate paper copy of the same online catalog, "Your Guide" except it was marked Spring/Summer. It has the Xperia Play listed the same way, as "Coming Soon". Interestingly enough, the latest FCC entry showed a phone with both a CDMA radio and a SIM slot, so people thought it was either a global phone or LTE capable. The new publication pretty much proves it's capable of neither. It will be CDMA 3G only. That is, unless Verizon doesn't fact-check it's own phones before printing out thousands of these publications to put in-store. It will also come with an 8GB card. Seems pretty standard.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9165/vzguide.jpg
They don't tell reps anything so of course he had no idea when it is coming or any details about it.
It could launch on the 12th of May, but the HTC Trophy is supposed to launch that day as well... according to rumors and speculation of course. There hasn't been anything pointing to release this week either.
Cool, thanks for all the good info
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Looks like the wait may be a bit longer. May 26th if all goes well, and that's not even a confirmed date by VZ themselves but someone on the inside that knows something.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/0...or-the-droidx2-lg-revolution-and-xperia-play/
I got tired of waiting and just bought an off contract model of the Rogers phone to use on AT&T. I'm sure I might regret that later but oh well. I already have AT&T so it's not a huge deal to me.
axiomjunglist said:
Looks like the wait may be a bit longer. May 26th if all goes well, and that's not even a confirmed date by VZ themselves but someone on the inside that knows something.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/0...or-the-droidx2-lg-revolution-and-xperia-play/
I got tired of waiting and just bought an off contract model of the Rogers phone to use on AT&T. I'm sure I might regret that later but oh well. I already have AT&T so it's not a huge deal to me.
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why does it take verizon about 2 months to release a phone after its been released in canada. and will an off contract rogers xperia play work with verizon?
Krislawl said:
why does it take verizon about 2 months to release a phone after its been released in canada. and will an off contract rogers xperia play work with verizon?
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My guess is they are still waiting for Sony to release another update to make it a little more stable or Verizon doesn't want six phones coming out at once. My guess is the update is whats holding them back. I remember with my blackberry storm we ended up waiting 2 more months before we got the update that would make our phones usable. All because Verizon didn't approve of it.
I bet it's also partly because your average techie still doesn't understand that Sony Ericsson and Sony are two different business entities, and the US sure is in Sony hating mode right now over the PSN compromise. I'm sure VZ doesn't want to launch a phone that won't be successful out the door, despite the fact that the Play doesn't even use the PSN network.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/sony-responds-to-congress-all-77-million-psn-accounts-compromis/
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No. Its a gsm phone.
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axiomjunglist said:
I bet it's also partly because your average techie still doesn't understand that Sony Ericsson and Sony are two different business entities, and the US sure is in Sony hating mode right now over the PSN compromise. I'm sure VZ doesn't want to launch a phone that won't be successful out the door, despite the fact that the Play doesn't even use the PSN network.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/sony-responds-to-congress-all-77-million-psn-accounts-compromis/
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Why Sony, why did you have to go and make an a$# of yourself? I will always be a Sony fanboy but this did annoy me. But yeah good point on the two companies being different.
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So im supprised im the first one to post this but from the roomers looks like walmart was cought with the play on their website. Which means their getting ready for something. Maby the 26, hmmmm . Origional post can be found here.
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No. Its a gsm phone.
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I have an unlock rogers on a bell cdma network. Just had to enter a apn apn and all works well
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I have an unlock rogers on a bell cdma network. Just had to enter a apn apn and all works well
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Hmmmm that's weird. I know a Rogers phone wont work for Verizon because Verizon is only cdma and what ever the 4g network is. And the only play phones out now only support GSM. Bell must support both cdma and GSM. That's my guess.
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Looks like we have another confirmation for the 26 woo that much closer!
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/xperia-play-05-17-2011/

Xperia Z IS coming to Canada! YAY!

I spoke with three different Sony store managers in Toronto (Eatons Center), Vaughan (Vaughan Mills) and Markham (Markville Mall), while also speaking with four Rogers store representatives (three from the above stores, and one agent on the phone).
They all confirmed that the Xperia Z is coming to Canada late June of this year!
The Sony Store Manager at Eatons Center even showed me his paperwork confirming the device as "on order".
All did state that it was Rogers bringing it in, so unsure of other carriers, but without stating which carrier, all Sony Store's stated Rogers was bringing it in, so it may be a Rogers exclusive..
See i knew it lol.
itll probably be crippled,
locked bootloader and etc
ill stick with my c6603 dont need lte
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See i knew it lol.
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Go ahead. Give the man "Thanks" (by button) for the footwork he did!
I was starting to give up hope. Thanks for the good news and the work behind it. Only question is - what will be around to tempt us by the time we reach June????
Now I'm debating if I should sell my xperia Z and wait for the rogers version since that way warranty problems won't be a hassle and it'll be the lte version too
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Go ahead. Give the man "Thanks" (by button) for the footwork he did!
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I found out before but, decided to not make a thread about it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40491756
Gave thanks to OP anyways allot of work to comfirm this!
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late june is too late. everyone is grabbing their hands on S4 and HTC ONE. sigh.
and if it gets delayed then >.> and most mods are based on 03 and 02, i dont know will there be any errors when flashing it to 06.
2 months after launch of Z, One sony will be announced :victory:
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late june is too late. everyone is grabbing their hands on S4 and HTC ONE. sigh.
and if it gets delayed then >.> and most mods are based on 03 and 02, i dont know will there be any errors when flashing it to 06.
2 months after launch of Z, One sony will be announced :victory:
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Back to school IMO this phone will be HOT if the advertise the water/dust resistance well...
Wiltron said:
I spoke with three different Sony store managers in Toronto (Eatons Center), Vaughan (Vaughan Mills) and Markham (Markville Mall), while also speaking with four Rogers store representatives (three from the above stores, and one agent on the phone).
They all confirmed that the Xperia Z is coming to Canada late June of this year!
The Sony Store Manager at Eatons Center even showed me his paperwork confirming the device as "on order".
All did state that it was Rogers bringing it in, so unsure of other carriers, but without stating which carrier, all Sony Store's stated Rogers was bringing it in, so it may be a Rogers exclusive..
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Im pretty sure its ZL. i know you asked sony and rogers, but belive ne they dont know ****. lol
Z is not coming to Canada. ZL is.
thats why ZL (which came after Z btw) is on rogers and sonys website and not the Z.
sad but true
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Im pretty sure its ZL. i know you asked sony and rogers, but belive ne they dont know ****. lol
Z is not coming to Canada. ZL is.
thats why ZL (which came after Z btw) is on rogers and sonys website and not the Z.
sad but true
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I'm not saying I believe OP (I want to, but everything with a grain of salt with these rumours), but the ZL is already in Canada so there should be no reason for them to say it would come in 'Late June' as it's available now.
mamallica said:
Im pretty sure its ZL. i know you asked sony and rogers, but belive ne they dont know ****. lol
Z is not coming to Canada. ZL is. thats why ZL (which came after Z btw) is on rogers and sonys website and not the Z. sad but true
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I'm not saying I believe OP (I want to, but everything with a grain of salt with these rumours), but the ZL is already in Canada so there should be no reason for them to say it would come in 'Late June' as it's available now.
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I can confirm to both of you, and anyone else reading, that the sheet said Sony Xperia 6603 - which is the Z variant with LTE support, water proof and dust proof. I wish I had have taken a picture (assuming he would've let me). It was listed three times, one for each colour (black white and faaaaaaaabulous)
Wiltron said:
I can confirm to both of you, and anyone else reading, that the sheet said Sony Xperia 6603 - which is the Z variant with LTE support, water proof and dust proof. I wish I had have taken a picture (assuming he would've let me). It was listed three times, one for each colour (black white and faaaaaaaabulous)
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If it's the C6603, then why am I waiting for it? Thought it would be the C6606. I guess if that's the case, I may as well just grab an import this week. It's not like the Sony Store price will be less than $650.
check yourself, cause people are waiting and potentially excited for the 6606, not the 6603, which we could have purchased a month ago...
edit: with the timing of the recent 6606 leaks, it seems likely that that was a typo... here's hoping
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check yourself, cause people are waiting and potentially excited for the 6606, not the 6603, which we could have purchased a month ago...
edit: with the timing of the recent 6606 leaks, it seems likely that that was a typo... here's hoping
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I talked to 2 Sony Stores in the past week and both said the Xperia Z is not coming to Canada. I've been holding out hope for a 6606 to show up anywhere.
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I can confirm to both of you, and anyone else reading, that the sheet said Sony Xperia 6603 - which is the Z variant with LTE support, water proof and dust proof. I wish I had have taken a picture (assuming he would've let me). It was listed three times, one for each colour (black white and faaaaaaaabulous)
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6603 is an LTE version, that is useless in North America. HSPA+ version aka C6602 is released in the US as of today. The 6606 aka TMO exclusive LTE will be released shortly. So it makes no sense to bring 6603 here. It will not work. If anything, Rogers should get the 6606 as it has the same chip inside as the ZL. So check it, you might remember it wrong.
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I talked to 2 Sony Stores in the past week and both said the Xperia Z is not coming to Canada. I've been holding out hope for a 6606 to show up anywhere.
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If talking to frontline people - don't bother, they are ALL idiots and don't know nothing about anything.

Xperia Z1 possibly on AT&T or T-Mobile

Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.
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Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.
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This is nice news! It's a shame I don't see much in the way of any hint as to when this may come out in the U.S., I really hope it's not another six months, I'm not willing to spend $800 on this thing as much as I like it :/
liljamjam said:
Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.
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Could it be the 14 spring model, since somebody mentioned that att's not going to carry any Sony this year
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greatremix said:
Could it be the 14 spring model, since somebody mentioned that att's not going to carry any Sony this year
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Not gonna argue with that, sounds even better to me. And remember, "this year" is almost over
@evleaks just tweeted a T-Mobile branded Z1 today.
MRMNYC said:
This is nice news! It's a shame I don't see much in the way of any hint as to when this may come out in the U.S., I really hope it's not another six months, I'm not willing to spend $800 on this thing as much as I like it :/
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I see what ur saying about not willing/wanting to pay $800 for this phone, but i've had my C6903 for about a week now on T-Mobile LTE and all i can say is that it's nothing short of AWESOME. It's the first phone in quite a while that feels premium enough to keep for a while... and i've had ALOT of phones (about 6 just this year). And did i mention LTE! And another plus of the unlocked version: bluetooth internet sharing right out of the box! :good:
devildogthug said:
I see what ur saying about not willing/wanting to pay $800 for this phone, but i've had my C6903 for about a week now on T-Mobile LTE and all i can say is that it's nothing short of AWESOME. It's the first phone in quite a while that feels premium enough to keep for a while... and i've had ALOT of phones (about 6 just this year). And did i mention LTE! And another plus of the unlocked version: bluetooth internet sharing right out of the box! :good:
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@evleaks just tweeted a T-Mobile branded Z1 today.
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Great to hear! It sounds like you got the LTE version in time since it looks like T-Mobile is going to carry it, but not AT&T. Just out of curiosity, what kind of download/upload speeds are you getting and where are you based? I'm in NY, and on AT&T -- when LTE was first introduced here, I was getting 30 down and 40 up, but nowadays, it's about 10 up and down. I may make the jump of carriers if the speed and network is OK.
Based on the EVLeaks photo, it seems it's a slightly modified version that will come out with T-Mobile, so, we'll see. Man, it's great being a consumer in a competitive market -- it sounds like Sony may be coming out with a new flagship in early 2014 using the WhiteMagic panel (http://www.androidauthority.com/jdi-super-bright-full-hd-displays-282810/) and with that one, hopefully Sony decides to go full force in the US. I'm also liking the rumors I'm hearing about the Samsung S5 thus far (water-resistant/proof, octacore, etc.). Decisions, decisions, decision!!!
where did you guys ordered yours? do you need an account on Sony to order one? or did you order it here in the States?
Thanks
I just picked up a Z waiting for the Z1 to be released on T-Mobile and the rep said "soon".
So I ran across this on the T-Mobile UK site http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/sony-xperia-z1-black/
Why isn't this available on T-Mobile US?
I bought my z1 off Craigslist. I'm on t-mobile 70 $ month unlimited data text and calls. I'm in Philadelphia. This is the speeds I get
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still waiting for this phone to be released with LTE
samven582 said:
still waiting for this phone to be released with LTE
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I don't remember about the other models, but I ordered a c6906 model, Telus branded from Canada, and it has LTE Bands for both T-Mobile and AT&T.
kusanou said:
I don't remember about the other models, but I ordered a c6906 model, Telus branded from Canada, and it has LTE Bands for both T-Mobile and AT&T.
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but there is no warrenty when you import
samven582 said:
but there is no warrenty when you import
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Damn, I forgot about that. Oh well, I take care of my stuff, and haven't been unfortunate enough to have anything severely damaged. I just hope there aren't any defects to worry about
I have a c6903 on tmobile. Insured for 6.99$month is fine enough for me. C6906 has all the lte bands. By the time this hits USA carriers it'll be old
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stealthj said:
I have a c6903 on tmobile. Insured for 6.99$month is fine enough for me. C6906 has all the lte bands. By the time this hits USA carriers it'll be old
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Same here. Got a C6903 from Clove UK along w/the SW2 for free. i didn't opt for a warranty but take care of my phones.
so far it works great on Tmobile and good on ATT and 3G only. Tmobile you can get LTE/4G if you have it in the area.

For us in the US

I've never bought a newly released International flagship phone before, so I'll be interested in knowing what's the best place to go about purchasing a Z2? This phone actually has me excited and I'll probably won't wait for a carrier version to show up, I'm sure I'm going to buy a International version. Is $800 about the right price one is expected to pay as I already see a eBay seller preselling them at that price.
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http://m.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2
Clove is your best bet. I already preordered mine
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Hes known with a reliable source
DACHA from esato
Those in the US wanting the Z2 will have to wait until July. It will be available for Sprint, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. The international version D6503 supports all the US LTE bands and it will work on AT&T and T-Mobie with no issues. I will be importing mine since I don't want to wait for another 5 months.
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http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206261&start=2460
I would rather get a unlocked bootloader instead of a locked one (from carriers)
Been wondering this myself. Pretty interested in the Z2 but don't know the best place to order one to get it sooner than later.
gclancer said:
http://m.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2
Clove is your best bet. I already preordered mine
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Will this work on att network?
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My guess it will be on store.sony.com here in the states a month or two after the international release. They did this with the Z, Z1 and Z Ultra. Just may take a little more time.
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Will this work on att network?
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Yes. It also supports all of AT&T's LTE bands.
MOD Edit: Comment removed Needs to hit my hometown store tomorrow at 10 am
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Does international version work with T-Mobile's AWS bands for T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ full speed?
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Hes known with a reliable source
DACHA from esato
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206261&start=2460
I would rather get a unlocked bootloader instead of a locked one (from carriers)
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Wow, I wonder where he's getting that from. It'll be a shame if it really is that long. Ouch.
se1000 said:
Wow, I wonder where he's getting that from. It'll be a shame if it really is that long. Ouch.
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USA is always late in the game, even Canada got the Z1 earlier than the states lol. So even if his source isnt reliable, I can judge from the launch of Z1.
TBH, you cant really blame Sony, it is mostly the carriers' fault. Like i said before, if you want a unlocked bootloader for custom roms and kernels, stay away from carriers' phones.
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USA is always late in the game, even Canada got the Z1 earlier than the states lol. So even if his source isnt reliable, I can judge from the launch of Z1.
TBH, you cant really blame Sony, it is mostly the carriers' fault. Like i said before, if you want a unlocked bootloader for custom roms and kernels, stay away from carriers' phones.
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Yeah, I caved, pre-order with clove.uk in! I WANT THIS PHONE!
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Yeah, I caved, pre-order with clove.uk in! I WANT THIS PHONE!
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forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back.
Honestly, if you are going to get a Z2 through a carrier from the states, dont bother... either wait for Z3 which will be most likely be announced at IFA (September) or order Z2 through online stores like clove etc...
LitoNi said:
forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back.
Honestly, if you are going to get a Z2 through a carrier from the states, dont bother... either wait for Z3 which will be most likely be announced at IFA (September) or order Z2 through online stores like clove etc...
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I don't think you read my post right. I put my preorder in with cove uk.
I agree.. If its going to be released in July, better off just waiting for the LG G3, will most likely have 805 processor and OIS
Unlocked mobiles also is selling pre orders.
http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-sim-free-p-84674.html
They're also giving away some bluetooth speakers and those digital noise canceling earphones
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Its expensive though to pre-order right now. Will the price drop later?
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Its expensive though to pre-order right now. Will the price drop later?
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Probably not till after release
LitoNi said:
forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back. .
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Hmm, I don't know... None of the US carriers ever had the Z1. T-mobile launched the Z1S variant about a month ago, but that's it.
I don't think Z2 will be pushed back for that reason. Actually, I'm not even sure if it will be available on US carriers. Maybe T-Mobile, eventually.
In the US, I think our only options will be:
- Pre-order from the UK and pray there are no defects, etc.
- Wait for US importers like Negri to get them (and probably jack up the price a bit)
- Wait for the Sony Store or web site to offer them. This is probably our best bet, but no idea when they'll actually have them.
- Or lastly, wait for T-mobile to release the Z2S with a locked bootloader about 1 month before the release of the Z3
Not to mention if the Z2 ever comes out over here the carriers might alter the design like T-Mobile did to the Z1s.. Plastic frame instead of aluminum..

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