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Hello everyone!
I left my beloved LG G2 (Damn good phone) 2 days ago to get the amazing Z2. All I gotta say is I'm already lovin this thing.
One thing i don't understand is the bootloader locking/unlocking. I got myself a Z2 from bell so the bootloader is not unlockable which means for some reason i can't install custom kernels and what not. However the G2's bootloader is also locked and flashing kernels was no problem.
The thing with the G2 is that we had an exploit called loki which many phones with locked bootloaders used (Galaxy S4, S5, LG G2, G pro 2, etc) and it allows us to install custom kernels and all that. Has anyone ever tried the loki exploit or is it completely different with Sony phones?

It's different - head to the development section
It's super easy, so don't worry

blackalice said:
It's different - head to the development section
It's super easy, so don't worry
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Ya rooting is easy lol, I already have it rooted and have a custom recovery. I'm just at loss as why we can't install a custom kernel on a locked bootloader. Especially since i can't on my phone :crying:

Okay so basically it isnt as easy as you think it is. Sony makes it software a bit different than LG. Unlocking your bootloader is something most phones have to go through as far as I have seen. Plus the dev community here is a small one so it will take time but I doubt there is any other exploit or than just unlocking your bootloader.

vipaman said:
Okay so basically it isnt as easy as you think it is. Sony makes it software a bit different than LG. Unlocking your bootloader is something most phones have to go through as far as I have seen. Plus the dev community here is a small one so it will take time but I doubt there is any other exploit or than just unlocking your bootloader.
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Alright! thanks, hopefully soon i can get that Doomkernel on my Z2

I just wouldn't have my hopes too high. The last time they managed to Crack the bootloader of an Xperia device was with the 2010 line, maybe 2011. Since then, no device that said their bootloader couldn't be unlocked, had it unlocked.
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U do realize u can unlock the boot loader of the device like right now. Without much effort. Ummmmm Rule one of XDA Read around mate
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vipaman said:
U do realize u can unlock the boot loader of the device like right now. Without much effort. Ummmmm Rule one of XDA Read around mate
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He has a phone which he can't unlock the bootloader...
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I'm avoiding this "bootloader" thing just because of the sony technologies comes embedded with the phone. Like X-Reality or ClearAudio+ or something else. I don't wanna lose them.
Other than that... why wouldn't I want to get an awesome kernel on my device, such as DooMKernel?

I have unlocked my bootloader and sure enough I haven't lost X-Reality or ClearAudio+ both of them still exist and still work. I even have installed Doomkernel so yeah

UNLOCK BOOTLOADER for everyone

Hi dudes,
They finally did it, official bootloader unlock process.
Join the party : http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/
Cheers

Please note! It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases. You can check if it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your device in the service menu by following the steps below:
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So not for everyone

Jackos said:
So not for everyone
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I didn't try it. I'm installing ADB driver right now, but Sony gave me unlock key etc. So I thought I was okay, keep u in touch.
EDIT : I don't know why but my computer is unable to detect JDK, so i can't install the SDK. Anyway, according to this serious french website, Sony opens the bootloader for everyone, so maybe someone can try it.

I don;t think this will be possible for not unlockable devices. Let me know, if it works.

Its the same situation as always. All Sony did was refresh the page. You still need to have an unlock-able bootloader to unlock.

You wasted my time now i must destroy you.. LOL!

Confirming this doesn't work when it says you can't unlock your bootloader. It does give you an unlock code though.

by everyone you should mean people with unlockable devices.
no one has cracked a non unlockable sony bootloader since 2011

Envious_Data said:
by everyone you should mean people with unlockable devices.
no one has cracked a non unlockable sony bootloader since 2011
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And by saying unlockable it means you have to buy the device from the Sony Store !! you can't unlock a sony phone if it's not from their store RIP LockedBootloaders

Simow.b said:
And by saying unlockable it means you have to buy the device from the Sony Store !! you can't unlock a sony phone if it's not from their store RIP LockedBootloaders
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lol
not neccisarily true, atleast in japan and england, only LB devices from network providers

Envious_Data said:
lol
not neccisarily true, atleast in japan and england, only LB devices from network providers
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Lol, well yeah most of them are not unlockable if you bought it from the network providers!!

I'm in Switzerland and mine comes from Swisscom ... the bootloader is unlockable

Cool. Seeing this is from Sony we don't lose any features or functionality right?

roninr1c said:
Cool. Seeing this is from Sony we don't lose any features or functionality right?
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There shouldnt be any effect wheb unlocking BL
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roninr1c said:
Cool. Seeing this is from Sony we don't lose any features or functionality right?
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You lose DRM. So back up TA partition prior to unlocking. A few Sony apps will cease to work if you don't back up and you'll lose warranty in case you want to go back to stock.

tmobile bootloader locked!

Hey Gang!
I was all set to get started helping to get AOSP ported (working with Untouchab1e) and it seems TMO has locked the bootloader something previously was reserved for att.
Needless to say I'm very upset, and will be returning the device.
There is no way around this right?

Not be surprised, Z, Z1s are also locked.
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nycbjr said:
Hey Gang!
I was all set to get started helping to get AOSP ported (working with Untouchab1e) and it seems TMO has locked the bootloader something previously was reserved for att.
Needless to say I'm very upset, and will be returning the device.
There is no way around this right?
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Very disappointing.
But please, note that it's not sony fault: Sony does not permanently lock the bootloader.
The problem here is the carrier. Sony will unlock your device if the device is sim unlocked, that's the only way to unlock but you need to pay the Unlock Code and have to send to Sony directly.
As you can see in Lollipop, SELinux is actually locking the root acces, so, you need to unlock the bootloader and change the kernel.
If you want to root a locked device running Lollipop, it's currently impossible, so BE AWARE!
P.S. I'm not saying that the Z3 is in Lollipop, but the update is imminent.

HTC does not charged for unlock code, only Sony does this!

All sony phones that will be shipped to a carrier to sell them comes with the "bootloader unlockable=NO", the others that are allowed to unlock bootloader comes directly from Sony, so don't be surprised with this issue, always has benn like that.

G1_enthusiast said:
HTC does not charged for unlock code, only Sony does this!
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Well, if you are talking about SIMLOCK code, you have to purchase it to your carrier. In my country (I don't know others), the law say that if the phone have 2 years and you don't renew contract, the carrier MUST have to unlock your device for FREE. Otherwise, purchase the SIMLOCK code. Sony will refuse to unlock the bootloader if the phone is SIMLOCKED.

NoTengoBattery said:
Very disappointing.
But please, note that it's not sony fault: Sony does not permanently lock the bootloader.
The problem here is the carrier. Sony will unlock your device if the device is sim unlocked, that's the only way to unlock but you need to pay the Unlock Code and have to send to Sony directly.
As you can see in Lollipop, SELinux is actually locking the root acces, so, you need to unlock the bootloader and change the kernel.
If you want to root a locked device running Lollipop, it's currently impossible, so BE AWARE!
P.S. I'm not saying that the Z3 is in Lollipop, but the update is imminent.
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Interesting, so if I was able to convince t-mobile to sim unlock I could then send that to sony? how does one do this? link possibly?
I got a suggestion to try selling it on craigslist than paying the difference to get the international version.
Anyone really want one now?

Pay off your phone if you are on EIP, then activate and use your phone at least 45 days (I guess), T-Mobile will unlock your phone free of charge.
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ehh....I'm gonna be receiving mine tomorrow in the mail but this might bug me a little. I've rooted/unlocked all my previous phones (galaxy 2-4) and I'm pretty used to being able to do that. I'm hoping that this phone is just so awesome that I won't feel the itch to flash things anymore.

ngvuanh said:
Pay off your phone if you are on EIP, then activate and use your phone at least 45 days (I guess), T-Mobile will unlock your phone free of charge.
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bootloader lock and sim lock are completely different

se1000 said:
bootloader lock and sim lock are completely different
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I knew it. My answer was for sim unlock.
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I don't much care about the bootloader, but not being able to root and in turn not being able to use xposed might be cause for a return....if only the nexus 6 was a more reasonable size.

nycbjr said:
Interesting, so if I was able to convince t-mobile to sim unlock I could then send that to sony? how does one do this? link possibly?
I got a suggestion to try selling it on craigslist than paying the difference to get the international version.
Anyone really want one now?
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Yeah!! I've followed this tuto: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=746342 for a client, he told me that sending from GT to UK were no problem an he paid the taxes. At the phone arrived from Sony UK, the bootloader was allowed to unlock. You may think that is better to sold the locked phone and pay the difference to get a phone, but my client don't think so and he gave me the chance to probe that SIMLOCK method is actually functional.
Hope it work for you if you wanna try.
(My client's phone was a Xperia Z2 locked by Claro)

hanano17 said:
I don't much care about the bootloader, but not being able to root and in turn not being able to use xposed might be cause for a return....if only the nexus 6 was a more reasonable size.
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Root may still be possible, sit tight.

You can obtain an Unlock Code through Sony choosing Sony Xperia Z3, however the fastboot unlock command is restricted (that would have been TOO easy!).
Code:
fastboot -i 0x0fce oem unlock [insert code here]
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FAILED (remote: Command not allowed)
finished. total time: -0.000s

While I'm sure it won't work, has anybody tried the Towel/Quick Root exploit that worked for the Z1s and the Z2 to obtain root without unlocking the BL? These T-Mo variants sometimes surprise us ...

mariussilverwolf said:
While I'm sure it won't work, has anybody tried the Towel/Quick Root exploit that worked for the Z1s and the Z2 to obtain root without unlocking the BL? These T-Mo variants sometimes surprise us ...
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Towelroot says that the device isn't compatible.

wow and i was about to jump from the S5 guess ill be sticking with my S5 since that has a unlocked bootloader and root

So I sold the tmo, and ordered the D6603 international dual sim. Should be here mid next week. I can then start working on getting AOSP on the Z3

nycbjr said:
So I sold the tmo, and ordered the D6603 international dual sim. Should be here mid next week. I can then start working on getting AOSP on the Z3
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You mean D6633?

got an xperia z from coworker, loving it are the newer versions better?

For some reason this c6606 phone gets 4 bars better reception than any phone I have. It's a little beat up so I'm thinking about getting the newer versions (are they better?) How easy is it to install ROMs. I've rooted it and the only thing I don't like is the tmobile built in tether program keeps telling me I need to get the upgrade to get hotspot working.

jedisurfer said:
For some reason this c6606 phone gets 4 bars better reception than any phone I have. It's a little beat up so I'm thinking about getting the newer versions (are they better?) How easy is it to install ROMs. I've rooted it and the only thing I don't like is the tmobile built in tether program keeps telling me I need to get the upgrade to get hotspot working.
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It will depend on you. The Z is a bit older and newer versions have a bit better spec's, but for Z is a bit longer development going on and I've heard there where some issues with newer versions (don't know, may or may not)
In the end it's all up to u, but I would say; if u love this phone by now, why don't enjoy it as the phone is not so valuable anymore and getting a new z2 or z3 will cost a fortune and will probably give almost the same satisfaction as u have right now (assuming this is ur first Z?)
BTW, if u are rooted, did u backup ur TA partition? If not, do so! Before anything else! This is important cuz u will lose them when unlocking bootloader.
Use search or check the top of these forums (android dev, original android dev, general, etc)
If u got ur boot loader unlocked, u can flash custom ROMs and even multiple ROMs if u want thanks to multirom
About the annoying hotspot thing, u can find out what app is causing that in system/app/ or system/priv-app/ and delete that app or simply rename it (hotspot.Apk > hotspot.Apk.bak) if you're not sure and don't wanna screw things up. Install a custom recovery and backup before doing anything.
Quite a lot of text ghehe. Anyway, if u wanna know something, search for it cuz almost anything is discussed. If u still unsure, ask

Thanks langeveld024, that is a lot of useful info. I'm glad I asked as it's not likely I would have backed up the TA partition.

The big thing he missed was that it is a C6606. Thats a T-Mobile variant. The bootloader is not unlockable. You have to stick with stock based roms for now.
Mine is also a C6606. Root it, back up your data and install a recovery manager. I suggest Rajeev's Ultimate XZ 4.4.4 ROM. Just flash it and you are good to go!

deerhurst said:
The big thing he missed was that it is a C6606. Thats a T-Mobile variant. The bootloader is not unlockable. You have to stick with stock based roms for now.
Mine is also a C6606. Root it, back up your data and install a recovery manager. I suggest Rajeev's Ultimate XZ 4.4.4 ROM. Just flash it and you are good to go!
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Hmm I do not know about carrier locked, but I've heard that if u have carrier lock you first have to sim-unlock it.
After that u should see "rooting status: bootloader unlock allowed: yes" when u type *#*#7378423#*#* (*#*#SERVICE#*#*) in dialer and go to "service info" > "configuration".
If bootloader unlocked, that's the place where u read: " rooting status: bootloader unlocked: yes"
So what does ur phone show there if u do this:?
*#*#7378423#*#*
Service info
Configuration
I guess it will show "unlock allowed: no"?
sim-unlock it and check again, I'm curious.

Sim is unlockable. It is fairly well documented that the c6606 does not have an unlockable bootloader. No custom kernels for us tmobile Z users.

deerhurst said:
Sim is unlockable. It is fairly well documented that the c6606 does not have an unlockable bootloader. No custom kernels for us tmobile Z users.
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Alright that's a bumm. But did u at least tried as I described ?
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Alright that's a bumm. But did u at least tried as I described ?
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Edit: already read it. Its not unlockable..
@jedisurfer what does ur service menu show? (Just to be sure)

Mine is sim unlocked yet currently network locked (5) and bootloader unlock allowed no.

QuadRooter vulnerability

I guess most of you have learned of the recently discovered vulnerability affecting over 900m Qualcomm devices. Apparently even after Google's latest July patches, the vulnerability persists, allowing root access to affected handsets. Pretty much the entire Xperia line using Qualcomm SOCs is affected.
My question is: will we see a rooting method based on this exploit? I know that unlocking the BL is the most straight forward way to root, however me and others I believe, would like to have a backup of their TA partition first. Ivyroot apparently works on older firmwares (not with .253), but as with BackupTA there's always some risk involved when restoring.
Perhaps a bounty is the proper way to go?

expecting security patch by Google!
meanwhile i have installed zonealarm...

Though if we could get a temp root on LB we could always refine the method for a permanent root on LB. Then, on the post from whichever genius makes the permanent root, have a damn neon flashing sign saying "OKAY, GO PATCH THIS NOW" via another kernel or a software fix as part of the "tutorial" post that would eventually be made.

pattmyn said:
Though if we could get a temp root on LB we could always refine the method for a permanent root on LB. Then, on the post from whichever genius makes the permanent root, have a damn neon flashing sign saying "OKAY, GO PATCH THIS NOW" via another kernel or a software fix as part of the "tutorial" post that would eventually be made.
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permanent root on LB cannot be done post 5.1.1 (android). it will be same as finding loop wholes in system and vulnerabilities of MM. atleast SONY don't support such methods where SONY RIC protects device to the level of putting it in to bootloops rather than allowing root access (when tried rooting on LB and DM-VARIETY+SONYRIC on).
the permanent solution ? either
1. switch to devices which allow PREROOTED O/S
2. UB and flash Kernal /ROMS as your own

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permanent root on LB cannot be done post 5.1.1 (android). it will be same as finding loop wholes in system and vulnerabilities of MM. atleast SONY don't support such methods where SONY RIC protects device to the level of putting it in to bootloops rather than allowing root access (when tried rooting on LB and DM-VARIETY+SONYRIC on).
the permanent solution ? either
1. switch to devices which allow PREROOTED O/S
2. UB and flash Kernal /ROMS as your own
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Well that's a depressing way to start my day lol. I love this damn phone but there's some rooted apps I miss dearly.

pattmyn said:
Well that's a depressing way to start my day lol. I love this damn phone but there's some rooted apps I miss dearly.
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i know what you mean! Xperias are my personal addiction!
i made deal with devil and lost drm keys and took security risks over my Z5 in exchange of rooted device.
in my opinion its matter of time, sooner or later you will also root your device!

YasuHamed said:
i know what you mean! Xperias are my personal addiction!
i made deal with devil and lost drm keys and took security risks over my Z5 in exchange of rooted device.
in my opinion its matter of time, sooner or later you will also root your device!
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Not with a locked bootloader that can't be unlocked, I ain't. Unless you know some magical people at Sony that could override that lol

pattmyn said:
Not with a locked bootloader that can't be unlocked, I ain't. Unless you know some magical people at Sony that could override that lol
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well one LONG workaround for you will be
via flashtool, (xperifirm) select z5p , select "INTERNAL" in the country list and download .170 version (android 5.0.2) the version at which it left sony factory.
flash it, Root it via kingroot (where kingroot is considered unsafe) , extract DRM KEYS
https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/releases
once u have those, upgrade to 6.0.1 and unlock the bootloader, flash it with custom kernal and relock the boot loader.
this way atleast you will have your ORIGINAL z5p KEYS with you for any future times

However relocking the BL with root will result in bootloop, since file system hash won't match the bootup check. However, with a TA partition backup, running an unlocked BL is much safer, for when you need to relock BL, and send the phone in for repairs etc.

YasuHamed said:
well one LONG workaround for you will be
via flashtool, (xperifirm) select z5p , select "INTERNAL" in the country list and download .170 version (android 5.0.2) the version at which it left sony factory.
flash it, Root it via kingroot (where kingroot is considered unsafe) , extract DRM KEYS
https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/releases
once u have those, upgrade to 6.0.1 and unlock the bootloader, flash it with custom kernal and relock the boot loader.
this way atleast you will have your ORIGINAL z5p KEYS with you for any future times
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Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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guhvanoh said:
Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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agree, i believe z1 and z tablets in USA (versions) were falling in the catagory you mentioned.
if the bootloader cannot be locked then.... betty buy blackberry
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Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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agree, i believe z1 and z tablets in USA (versions) were falling in the catagory you mentioned.
if the bootloader cannot be locked then.... betty buy blackberry

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Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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What he said.

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What he said.
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he is referring to some sony devices who's bootloader was denied unlocking.
but don't worry, most of the devices (outside USA) has bootunlocking ALLOWED

Per-purchase question .....
YasuHamed said:
he is referring to some Sony devices who's bootloader was denied unlocking.
but don't worry, most of the devices (outside USA) has boot unlocking ALLOWED
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My GF's M4 Aqua had the option to unlock the bootloader in the dev settings. It still couldn't have the BL unlocked (E2306), but the other 2 variations could, the E2303 and the E2353.
The E2306 was subsidized and discounted by Sony and mass distributed by lower end carriers here in Canada, hence the unlockable BL.
This model has the E6833 and the E6883, which one has the BL that can be/is unlocked?

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My GF's M4 Aqua had the option to unlock the bootloader in the dev settings. It still couldn't have the BL unlocked (E2306), but the other 2 variations could, the E2303 and the E2353.
The E2306 was subsidized and discounted by Sony and mass distributed by lower end carriers here in Canada, hence the unlockable BL.
This model has the E6833 and the E6883, which one has the BL that can be/is unlocked?
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the OEM UNLOCKING allowed in Developer options is just an extra step.
my z5dual was giving one IMEI however with flashtool i was getting TWO IMEI numbers, both different and with the second imei i was able to unlock.
is yours M4aqua Dual