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Clear Coat HTC Touch Pro Fully Body Protection?

http://www.clear-coat.com/product.php?productid=475&cat=0&page=1
im a bit skeptic about this product, have anyone tried previous products by clear coat?

Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html

WDawn said:
Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html
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to be honest, when i cant find any other reviews... then suddenly theres a really positive review, that makes me really skeptical...
and yes, it is this EXACT same review makes me skeptical about this product lol

Sounds like
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=88113-74130-PFW486&lpage=none
That's the stuff I used in my bathroom to frost my windows... I got it wet and slid it on.. used a squeegee and flattened it all out and 3 years later is is still sticking there.
The difference is that this is
1.) Clear
2.) Cut into the proper shape (you could do this yourself with some measuring but it saves hassle)
3.) the squeegee is probably smaller.
My bathroom windows are in a VERY humid environment... I have never had ANY peeling.
However I don't keep my bathroom windows in my pocket... so I don't know if the corners will peel up.
My main point is that for $24 of this "film" to cover a TINY phone... you can buy the same thing for $18 that would cover 10 phones... if the product works fantastic... the profit margin for them is HUGE. If it doesn't work... it's the biggest rip off ever.
See if Gila makes a clear one... get $18 worth and tinker away.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314

So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?

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So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?
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I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.

Black93300ZX said:
I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.
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Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.

venelar said:
Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.
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The only difference I noticed when seeing the 2 up next to each other was the shape of the speaker hole on the back, that might be enough to throw the protection off. Ask Raspster about it more, he had both the European and the Fuze at the same time, so he could tell you better than I could.

I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24

just got mine on Friday exactly as it's described, protects almost every part of the phone with their cut out plastic shield, however as mentioned in earlier post... doesn't really cover the edges, all in all... does really stick and so far looks pretty ok with the exception of little bubbles within the shield (poor application technique)

marcel808 said:
I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24
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Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.

Proghtc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314
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I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!

I would also like to know this. Can it be removed again without leaving marks on the phone?
How scratch proof is it really?
Because of the lack of info on the site (still no video's on how to apply the thing, their forum is just about empty and they don't reply to customer questions...) they really don't seem to thrustworthy ...
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serphinox said:
Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.
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mrrogers1 said:
I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!
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I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.

yes it can easily be removed without any mark left at all....I found the cover started to collect dusk a lot (it must be slightly sticky) so I removed it.

Phantisy said:
I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.
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Trust me, I know oh too well the replacement process and have replaced and installed many over the last 5 years.
The fact that I know the Zagg product so well, makes the experiment more interesting. I know the Zagg stuff so well that I will know if this Clear Coat stands a chance AND since it's only $25... It might turn out to be junk, the company could not stand behind the guarantee BUT we'll see.

*Update
Just got my phone yesterday and I just ordered the Clear Coat. I'll install and do a little initial write up. I'll order the Zagg shield when it becomes available and do a comparison.
It's only money and it IS a $700 device.... (but I only paid $250 for it)
Stay tuned guys.
**Update
Just ordered a Zagg full body shield at 40% off as they just got them and were doing a Halloween special I guess. I should have the Cleat Coat on Mon/Tues and the Zagg will probably be here the week after. I think I'll install the Clear Coat first, use it for a week or so and then install the Zagg and do the same.

Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!

waaz1d said:
Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!
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I don't have mine yet but why on earth would there NOT be a cutout for the earpiece???

Paint-stripping problems?

Hi, I'm new ad I have a question for hd'users:
Have you note stripping problems?
I ask this because some italian users have note this after 3-4 days. They say that there are some chromate points on their hd.
Thank you.

Bounced Paint on the Frame
Hey guys,
I read something about scratches and damaged paint on the metal-frame around the HD.
What do you know about that? Anybody here who has this problem?

[WARNING] they chip easily
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.

stuff like this really gets my goat. you pay top dollar for a product and there shouldnt be issues like this.

Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.

eaglesteve said:
Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.
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thats my point, you shouldnt have to.

indup said:
thats my point, you shouldnt have to.
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The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.
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No, but the plastic on the backs of the iPhone 3Gs get stress fractures without any drops or pressure on them.
I don't ever use a screen protector. I treat my screen like I do a high dollar pair of sunglasses. only use microfiber clothes on it and I always use a belt case holder. I recently bought a Golla side pouch and like it a lot on how it protects it from all angles.

jon- said:
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.
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me too, Ive had mine for 2 weeks though BUT don't have any chips, just one tiny scratch above the front speaker which I'm sure was me being drunk/careless ...

Good to hear that it is holding out good so far. However, I personally would still put on the protective shield, more as a precaution.
Can't hurt, can it?

If you use the stylus at all, I'd always use a screen protector. It's too easy to just one day trap a sharp particle between the stylus tip and the screen as you go to handwrite, and then scratch it up badly before you realise.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
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Well obviously glass can scratch and he's not suggesting his screen shouldnt scratch if its mistreated, theres a few ppl talking about the black area paint chipping, very reminiscent of the P3600i
HTC need to learn you cant promote a phone like this as a stylish new device and skimp out on essentials like this. My iphone 2G is a prime example of craftsmanship, I dont know how many times the back of it should be scratched and battered by now but it still looks damn good and quality.

jon- said:
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
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Any photos to see??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447898

On my HD TIM the paint is gone

paolonio said:
On my HD TIM the paint is gone
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Post some pictures!

Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now

nin2thevoid said:
Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now
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Same here!
No need to create panic, so I'm gonna give the guys a chance to post some pictures before I close this thread.

tnyynt said:
Post some pictures!
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Second that. You have to show that you even have a phone in the first place.
But seriously, let's see how bad the situation is.

Yep, check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448193
My paint is starting to come off.

Case, Bumper or Naked?

I'm still waiting on my "being Built" Moto Maker X Pure. Bamboo and black.
This phone having such customization potential, I'm curious what the majority of you are doing about cases. I've always used a case, but I want to show of my wood back and color choices.. and personally, I'm kind of hoping that it's tough enough to risk using naked daily.
What do you think?
Oh, and I'm likely to keep this for a long time and reselling is not something I'm worried about.

I would go with a clear case, still shows the wood and protects the phone.

I'm either going to get a transparent/translucent case or a good quality bumper. I ended up going for the soft back rather than the leather so I'm more likely to get the case.
Personally, wouldn't keep the phone naked. At the very least, use the provided bumper for some sort of protection.

Dan76 said:
I'm still waiting on my "being Built" Moto Maker X Pure. Bamboo and black.
This phone having such customization potential, I'm curious what the majority of you are doing about cases. I've always used a case, but I want to show of my wood back and color choices.. and personally, I'm kind of hoping that it's tough enough to risk using naked daily.
What do you think?
Oh, and I'm likely to keep this for a long time and reselling is not something I'm worried about.
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Right now I'm just using the included bumper and a clear skin on the back. It works, but I'll probably move to a clear case once more become available. The clear skin looks fairly good, but it does make the bamboo look a little too shiny.

brholt6 said:
Right now I'm just using the included bumper and a clear skin on the back. It works, but I'll probably move to a clear case once more become available. The clear skin looks fairly good, but it does make the bamboo look a little too shiny.
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Where did you get the clear skin for the rear? How does it hold up on the curves of the device?

met152 said:
Where did you get the clear skin for the rear? How does it hold up on the curves of the device?
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Xtremeguard... They're having like a 90% off sale. Its OK. Doesn't cover from edge to edge...which is fine, otherwise the bumper would probably peel it off. It will protect it from scratches for now though. Adds a little grip, but not as much as I had hoped.

brholt6 said:
Xtremeguard... They're having like a 90% off sale. Its OK. Doesn't cover from edge to edge...which is fine, otherwise the bumper would probably peel it off. It will protect it from scratches for now though. Adds a little grip, but not as much as I had hoped.
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Cool. Thanks for the info and the quick reply.

Awesome, thank you all for the replies. I keep feeling like I won't enjoy the phone unless it's naked, but I know you're right about protection. I may do a clear case... or a rubber bumper when more are released. I saw this one from another post in a different forum: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0154AQ3QK...colid=MDU2I2LQJJCF&coliid=INJ1ZBZYSLR2L&psc=1 looks decent.

Dan76 said:
Awesome, thank you all for the replies. I keep feeling like I won't enjoy the phone unless it's naked, but I know you're right about protection. I may do a clear case... or a rubber bumper when more are released. I saw this one from another post in a different forum: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0154AQ3QK...colid=MDU2I2LQJJCF&coliid=INJ1ZBZYSLR2L&psc=1 looks decent.
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I had that case when I had my Nexus 6. I loved it. Felt great in the hand. That's what I was thinking of going with.

brholt6 said:
I had that case when I had my Nexus 6. I loved it. Felt great in the hand. That's what I was thinking of going with.
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How pocketable was it with that case... difficult to get in and out?

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How pocketable was it with that case... difficult to get in and out?
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Ya, if I remember correctly it was a little difficult on the N6 but not terrible. I'd think it'd be OK on this phone.

I bought this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012Y81GXA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It sais to preorder but i ordered it and it came in the mail already, dont know if they only made a few or something, you could always email the seller and ask.
Im extremely impressed with it. I bought it as a cheap case to put on till i have more options. My only criticism was that it was a little loose on the sides, so what did i do ? I boiled it! thats right, i looked it up online and people boil tpu cases to shrink them a little. I boiled it in water for 3 minutes. it fits alot more snug now, still not perfect but close enough

I went with an otterbox so my kids dont break my phone

FYI - I've had the included "bumper" on my MXPE almost continuously since I received it.
I removed the bumper yesterday and, to my dismay, found nicks/pits in the longer metal edges of the phone. It looks like the anodized coating has worn away to show the brighter metal beneath (I have the dark grey/titanium metal color). I also noticed upon receipt that there was a slight chip in the finish at the edge of the SIM card door.
Fortunately my MotoMaker re-do unit is on its way to me (decided to go with wood instead of soft-touch), but I'm somewhat disappointed with the robustness of the metal finish. I almost wonder if this is why the "bumper" was packaged with the phone - though it looks like it might've done more harm than good by trapping scratchy debris.
Bottom line - I usually carry my phone naked except with a glass screen protector, but I'm wondering if this MXPE is going to need at least an edge bumper.
(I haven't fully scoured the forums to see if this is a known problem, but I certainly hope the finish on my re-do unit is more durable.)

I'm going naked, I have moto care so I think I will go naked with this phone. So often cases seem to cause more wear than without so I will keep it "pure"

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm going naked, I have moto care so I think I will go naked with this phone. So often cases seem to cause more wear than without so I will keep it "pure"
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Im trying that too, but I am only a month in and I already am seeing spots on the back where it seems that the varnishing is being removed? Have you noticed this yourself?

See-through case, fits like a glove - not loose. The best combination for me personally, the phone is still 100% visible but protected to some degree. Also I find soft silicone cases add more grip to what would otherwise be a slippery phone.

I-blason clear case from Amazon. Very happy with it.
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I'm currently using the i-blason clear case as well, and I'll second it as good option. I had decent drop onto a hard surface over the weekend, and the phone was no worse for the wear. I also have the Casemate naked tough case coming as well, which should be even better. I'm someone that likes to have a variety of cases (although with this phone I'm probably going to stick with clear ones), so I will probably end up getting a bumper or two as well. I don't think the included bumper is quite as bad as a lot of people said it was, but it fits kind of loose and I can see it breaking with a good drop. As much as I enjoy going naked with the phone, I didn't get Moto care, and the wooden back I got is fairly slippery, and I don't trust myself not drop it occasionally.

I have noticed that the clear bumper that came with the phone has started to scratch the very edges of the rounded glass. I'm going naked now. I don't use screen protectors and generally don't use cases or bumpers. I've never had a problem with scratching my devices. I also never resell my phones (I usually gift them to family members, friends, etc.), so slight scratches aren't a deal breaker for me.
I love this phone in its bare form :good:

First cracked back panel

It seems there is no end to the z5 misfortunes. For me, it's like 5 min I decide to order the compact, then I read another piece of bad news. Then I think it can't be that bad and what other choice of compact waterproof phone do I have, then I read another piece of bad news, and so on. Anyway, Verge reports a cracked back panel. Looks just like my z3 compact.
www.theverge.com/2015/10/8/9480135/sony-xperia-z5-broken-glass-back
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The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.

radjad said:
The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
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Yes it does, frosted glass.

Both sides need to have plastic or temped protection cover
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Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
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That's very true but it also doesn't mean that it is not happening often. There were lots of reports with the z3 series. I was hoping that this spontaneous crack issue would be solved
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.

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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.

well, we had bend gate with an iphone and we have glass gate with z5c - its food for haters

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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
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Or it could be a real issue. It certainly was with the Z3c. I quite often do not agree with the reviews on verge, but automatically disqualifying something because it is posted on that site is a bit too much like fanboyism for me.
Also, someone who is "putting a phone on a table so it accidentally lands at a bad angle on another object" is for me very much not "a user that doesn't know his stuff". Sorry, but a phone which cannot take *that* without getting damaged simply has a design error.
Lets wait an see. It could be an isolated incident or it could be like with its predecessor something relatively common. I for my part will wait till at least Christmas before I but a Z5c. I really want for it to succeed - because if it doesn't we can probably say goodbye to any good android phones sub-5" - but I won't buy it if I have to be afraid it gets damaged each time I do not handle it with kids gloves.

I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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tudork said:
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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new one still seem waterproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpNfOZ_vx4
And i got my z5c today to replace my z3c and i love it! The fingerprint scanner is such a win!

Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile

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Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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be happy its just the back tho because the back is easy to replace.

My z5c back just broke.
Took it in my hand. Did nothing.
Heard a click and there it was.

The upside of glass its alot more scratch resistance from plastic even from aluminium
the down side is more sensitive to high heat\cold changes and hits can stutter it more easily
i'vgot silicon case

Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!

StHalcyon said:
Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
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1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969

Gewiz said:
1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.

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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Never had problems on ebay, sometimes on aliexpress. But till now, everytime when the order didn't arrive, i got a full refund without any problem. So i think it worth a try.
Of course when a seller blur out the logo its normally a bad sign and i would look for another dealer.

Can Graphite 6P's users reassure me (or not) ?

Hi !
I can read on internet that some users saw there graphite 6P's paint coming off despite they used it carefully (they said). That'll be cool if some of you guys can reassure me (or not) about it ...
I plan to put a case on it, but sometimes when i'm home for example, i'd like to use the 6P naked to feel the metal body. But if it's too risky i won't, because i see some users said that after 3 days of use, the paint was coming off ! 3 days wtf !!!
So if you could help me about that, it will be very nice

Raiden350 said:
Hi !
I can read on internet that some users saw there graphite 6P's paint coming off despite they used it carefully (they said). That'll be cool if some of you guys can reassure me (or not) about it ...
I plan to put a case on it, but sometimes when i'm home for example, i'd like to use the 6P naked to feel the metal body. But if it's too risky i won't, because i see some users said that after 3 days of use, the paint was coming off ! 3 days wtf !!!
So if you could help me about that, it will be very nice
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I've had mines for about 3 weeks now. Paint job is good so far despite some irresponsibility on my end. Case is deff recommended. Hope this helped.

cvsolidx17 said:
I've had mines for about 3 weeks now. Paint job is good so far despite some irresponsibility on my end. Case is deff recommended. Hope this helped.
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Yes a lot ! What happened to yours ? And do you think the phone can still be used naked sometimes ?

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Yes a lot ! What happened to yours ? And do you think the phone can still be used naked sometimes ?
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Well to be honest it was carelessness on my end. I had it on my lap while I was in my car and upon exiting it fell off and did a few cartwheels. All while naked. Surprisingly enough, only the corner was *SLIGHTLY* chipped. Even though it's beauty was marred, I was pleasantly surprised by the the durability. I'm 6'3 so it was by no means a short drop. After that I got a case though. I do plan on using it naked every so often just to show off my Dbrand skin. But if you are going to be out and about and constantly taking it in and out of your pocket, a case is definitely the way of go.

Had mine for a month or so with no case and just use it as normal. Still looks like new both metal case and screen. No issues whatsoverer.
Common sense says don't put it in a pocket with keys or coins etc in it, or in the back pocket due to its size.

400ixl said:
Had mine for a month or so with no case and just use it as normal. Still looks like new both metal case and screen. No issues whatsoverer.
Common sense says don't put it in a pocket with keys or coins etc in it, or in the back pocket due to its size.
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Great !
So just put it in my empty front pocket will be okay, this is reassuring me And i imagine it's not as fragile as the iPhone 5 edges
Envoyé de mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/dont-graphite-nexus-6p-t3272938
It's all a matter of opinion and care for the device. I love the look of the graphite, and have never used a case on any phone. Received my phone on 10/28 and have zero marks or dings or peeling that others have reported. I don't baby the device by any means, but I do set it on a stack of paper or notepad when it's on my desk at work. That is more for quietness than protection, though.

Raiden350 said:
Hi !
I can read on internet that some users saw there graphite 6P's paint coming off despite they used it carefully (they said). That'll be cool if some of you guys can reassure me (or not) about it ...
I plan to put a case on it, but sometimes when i'm home for example, i'd like to use the 6P naked to feel the metal body. But if it's too risky i won't, because i see some users said that after 3 days of use, the paint was coming off ! 3 days wtf !!!
So if you could help me about that, it will be very nice
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Had mine for more than a month.
Sometimes in a case, sometimes not.
Paint on mine is fine.

It's true! But only some (3) tiny spots like dust that you can see on an angle (OCD here?) but it's true....especially on the edges.
Tapatalked with my Nexus 6P

The paint chipped off on my first (RMA'd) Graphite - upon putting the Huawei provided case. The second Graphite (mfg 11/11) doesn't have any issues, even after using it case-less for a week. Now it is safe inside a Ringke case. I do take out the phone out of the case every day once to clean up dirt and dust.

Had mine for a month. Still perfect.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

I've had mine for about 2 months now, it hasn't shown any signs of wear yet but I keep mine in a case.
Just get the phone color you like and be done with it, don't let people sway you away from the graphite with silly things like "it will peel fast". Same could be said about white getting dirty quick or silver showing scratches.
It's crazy how people obsess over such trivial things but to each his own.