I lost root when updating to 4.4.2 on my Verizon moto x. Does anyone know how to get it back?
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whatnow275 said:
I lost root when updating to 4.4.2 on my Verizon moto x. Does anyone know how to get it back?
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There is no way at this time and probably never will be because jcase is not going to try to find a way.
What did you do that you lost root? Others are reporting that they kept root when they updated.
I was stupid and restored 4.4 without checking if I still had root. Had to restore because I uninstalled some bliatware and the update wouldn't take. So I'm stranded without root forever?
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whatnow275 said:
I was stupid and restored 4.4 without checking if I still had root. Had to restore because I uninstalled some bliatware and the update wouldn't take. So I'm stranded without root forever?
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OK, just so I understand, you did a factory reset to restore to 4.4 and then were unrooted and took the 4.4.2 OTA?
As for forever, well, who knows maybe Jcase can be persuaded to work on it, but he still has to find a way even if he were so inclined. As of now, once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, no one has a way to downgrade it to 4.4. And since Slap My Moto relies on downgrading 4.4. to the post camera 4.2.2, there is no way to root 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
The sale on the Dev Eds is still on until tomorrow. You can always get root with a Dev Ed. You could sell your current phone to help pay for the Dev Ed.
I had to sbf back to 4.4 because I uninstalled some apps using TiBu. It seems way faster now...battery I'd the main thing I care about. How can I jeep 5+ hours screen on time without root or turning off features?
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whatnow275 said:
I had to sbf back to 4.4 because I uninstalled some apps using TiBu. It seems way faster now...battery I'd the main thing I care about. How can I jeep 5+ hours screen on time without root or turning off features?
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sorry posted wrong.
if you sbf back to 4.4 then go back to 4.2.2 and do the root thing over and just update like normal. thats if you can still sbf to 4.2.2
FeaR_x_KhAoS said:
if you sbf back to 4.4 then go back to 4.2.2 and do the root thing over and just update like normal. thats if you can still sbf to 4.2.2
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He upgraded to 4.4.2. If he tries to sbf back to 4.4 he will brick his phone.
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flashallthetime said:
the only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam
here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
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Cozume said:
There is no way at this time and probably never will be because jcase is not going to try to find a way.
What did you do that you lost root? Others are reporting that they kept root when they updated.
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All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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kbluhm said:
All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...
Teksu said:
Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...
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Right, but it doesn't help with things like AdAway.
kbluhm said:
All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Xposed with all its modules including Moto tether + TiBu is useless? I'm using adfree and it seems to work as well. All you have to do is soft reboot and viola!
Mayze23 said:
Xposed with all its modules including Moto tether + TiBu is useless? I'm using adfree and it seems to work as well. All you have to do is soft reboot and viola!
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I second that, all is well on rooted 442 locked vzw
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Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...
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It's hit or miss when it sticks. It's a bummer
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safestrap ROM of 164.55.2?
So is there any interest in creating a rooted safestrap ROM of 164.55.2 (i.e. similar to the previous 4.4 release: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/ )
Or does 4.4.2 break the ability to do Recovery boot -> R/W system access? (which the current safestrap 4.4 ROM still relies on to write to system)
So if I root now (4.4.0) and take the ota to 4.4.2 , will I be able to keep the root? I don't necessarily need it, I would just like TB and X-Posed. Bit scared of loosing the warranty on this phone though.
TechTinker said:
So if I root now (4.4.0) and take the ota to 4.4.2 , will I be able to keep the root? I don't necessarily need it, I would just like TB and X-Posed. Bit scared of loosing the warranty on this phone though.
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It worked for me. The only setback from 4.4 root is that if you hard reboot you'll need to install Xposed framework and soft reboot to get it to stick. So worst case is you have to reboot twice if you do a hard reboot. TiBu works regardless.
If you worried about the warranty then you shouldn't root the non dev edition.
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All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Are you referring only to those that used MotoPwnNoMo? Or does this apply to all rooted users?
nhizzat said:
Are you referring only to those that used MotoPwnNoMo? Or does this apply to all rooted users?
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Not sure, they're not usually specific from what I've seen. I just recall reading "I got lucky, root stuck!" followed later by "ah crap, write protection is enabled".
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mpkrcl said:
So is there any interest in creating a rooted safestrap ROM of 164.55.2 (i.e. similar to the previous 4.4 release: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/ )
Or does 4.4.2 break the ability to do Recovery boot -> R/W system access? (which the current safestrap 4.4 ROM still relies on to write to system)
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This would, I think, be the ideal solution.
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Just for your info. When I woke up today I found that my Note N5110 has downloaded a new firmware update ans is asking for install. The firmware is 164.63 Mb. Of course I didn't installed because my tablet is rooted with civato custom kernel. Just be careful!
Mine is not rooted and still running original ROM. update was already downlaoded and just needed reboot and 5 minutes later back up !
Only info was that it had better stability..
Mine is rooted with custom recovery twrp installed, exposed framework, tweakbox, app options, and a few apps set up at 160dpi. When checking for an update the device tells me that my device has been modified and updates are not available. So I guess I have nothing to worry about
The pronlem is that when I try to check for software updates the device do not find anything but after a while in the notification bar appears even though I restart the tablet. My fear is to loose root after install the update.
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
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rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
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I'm sorry dude but thanks you for your response. That was the reason I open this threat, to avoid people loosing root in their Notes 8.0 after this update.
rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
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did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
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ExploreMN said:
I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
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Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.
mingkee said:
Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.
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Just pulled this update now. Assuming its not 4.2.2? I saw 164MB and thought . . . maybe.
Shouldn't be too long though, didn't they claim 4.2.2 for a few other devices in June-July? :fingers-crossed:
Used voodoo ota root keper and went ahead and downloaded! Worked like a charm! Thanks guys!
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Definitely not 4.2.2. Don't see what's different.
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Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root
tonyz3 said:
Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root
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Unrooting the old version works perfectly. But you will not be able to root with Framaroot after you did the update...
p107r0 said:
did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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Confirmed CF-Auto-Root worked...THANKS!
FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.
I can confirm that CF-Root works with the new firmware. Just to play I downloaded the new firmware (MF1) and installed via Kies then applied CF-Root with Odin and my Note 8.0 is now rooted with the last software update version.
for us non-rooted folks, does anyone know what the update does. All it said was "stability improvements"
tke743 said:
FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.
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This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
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ExploreMN said:
This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
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Use KIES on PC. Connect the tablet and see if the update is available, if so update it with KIES.
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes
Note that you want to keep your device as close to stock as possible if you want to install the OTAs. Rooting is no issue but you will encounter errors if you flash custom radios for example.
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briand.mooreg said:
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Yes, and no if you're like me, I flash custom kernel, digs out nearly 50% of the system app replacing them with something to greenify them.
briand.mooreg said:
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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Not sure if this is your first android phone but its generally the same with all of them. If you root and alter files that the update checks for it will not update. Although there is not a big deal to update then flash the updated rom. Not sure why so many people worry about updates when a custom rom update will show up.
You also can get an app call otarootkeeper and lastly google is full of methods to achieve your goal its always good to google prior to posting a question... Never know what you may find
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OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
Acuity said:
OTA RootKeeper no longer works as of 4.3. The way to get root back now is by installing SuperSU through recovery.
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Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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playya said:
Yea but flashing Su would mean installing a custom recovery. He is trying to stay stock
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You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
Acuity said:
You can revert back to stock recovery by downloading the factory image and flashing recovery.img buried deep within it:
fastboot flash recovery C:/recovery.img
OTA RootKeeper has served its purpose, and had done so for a long time; however, it is currently no longer functional.
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I agree with you but saying a person that wants stock normally is trying to do as little as possible to their phone. Flashing a recovery via fastboot may not be an option. If thats the case you can simply just flash the stock recovery via zipfile and use SuperSu and it has an uninstall root function
briand.mooreg said:
I'm getting a Nexus 4. My question is if I root but keep stock, will I still receive updates?
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I did just that.. When I bought my phone it had 4.2.2. Flashed a custom recovery, then rooted it as well.. When 4.3 OTA was out, mine also downloaded it.. I unrooted my phone using the unroot option in SuperSu and flashed stock recovery back and installed OTA just like a layman would, and , well, 4.3..
Later I read in this forum that few ppl who had custom recovery also were able to update normally to 4.3 through OTA.. But I didn't do that , so I can't give my word on that.
In case you don't get the ota or if it is unsuccessful, you can always do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Happy rooting !
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Should i root now or later? Why i ask is because if i do root now will a ota update come out and brick my phone or should i just wait till a rom comes and root then flash it?
Please help im a flashoholic stop me while you can. Can't have this powerful device in my hand without root
I'm wanting to root mine but I'm going to wait until we can get custom recovery and roms. It won't be long I would imagine. I do wonder if we'll get an ota soon because of the call quality issue.
I'm gonna wait myself. I feel your pain though. I did read that the international version has had 2 upgrades already that supposedly made the wifi, phone reception, & battery life better. From what I read anyway. It was in a thread on here. Plus there seems to be a lot of problem after rooting posts in the Q&A section. I figure better safe than sorry.
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Storm T said:
I'm wanting to root mine but I'm going to wait until we can get custom recovery and roms. It won't be long I would imagine. I do wonder if we'll get an ota soon because of the call quality issue.
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Ibkevin said:
I'm gonna wait myself. I feel your pain though. I did read that the international version has had 2 upgrades already that supposedly made the wifi, phone reception, & battery life better. From what I read anyway. It was in a thread on here. Plus there seems to be a lot of problem after rooting posts in the Q&A section. I figure better safe than sorry.
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Thank you for your input guys. Just want it overclocked so bad. lol how soon will it take to get the boot loader unlocked. by the way is the vzw s4 boot loader unlocked yet smh
johnminator said:
Thank you for your input guys. Just want it overclocked so bad. lol how soon will it take to get the boot loader unlocked. by the way is the vzw s4 boot loader unlocked yet smh
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Why would you want it overclocked? Phone runs fine on the quad core snapdragon processor. Overclocking (half of the time) leads to some sort of instability. It heats your phone up like a stove because you basicly gave your phone ritilin. And don't even get me started on the battery...
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There is no reason to overclock. This phone flies and 6 hours of screen time on a charge is ridiculous as well. Just root and get it over with. It is simple to do. Just follow the directions to a T.
I delayed a few days and need not have. Procedure is straightforward and not hard.
It's easy to root the only disadvantage is wiping everything out.
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I rooted mine right after I bought it because I needed to get rid of the stupid bloat they put on my phone I hate that stuff
johnminator said:
Should i root now or later? Why i ask is because if i do root now will a ota update come out and brick my phone or should i just wait till a rom comes and root then flash it?
Please help im a flashoholic stop me while you can. Can't have this powerful device in my hand without root
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OTA cant just be put on your phone. You have to accept the update to be flashed. So rooting has nothing to do with it.
You can always freeze SDM.apk and that will prevent it. But again, Verizon Updater app just notifies you that an OTA is available.
just root now no issues whatsoever with mine during or after root and overclock!?!? what do you want its a 2.3 ghz quadcore sd 800 and you want more!?!? this phone is like butter in anything and everything fully loaded with 100+ apps i see zero reasons to overclock
Thank you so much guys, one more question to ask. If i root it does it trigger anything that shows root like the unlock logo when booting like (custom)
johnminator said:
Thank you so much guys, one more question to ask. If i root it does it trigger anything that shows root like the unlock logo when booting like (custom)
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It does show "custom"on boot screen but can easily be removed
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danutzz said:
It does show "custom"on boot screen but can easily be removed
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Cool so how would you do that and does it trip knox
johnminator said:
Cool so how would you do that and does it trip knox
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It does not trip knox. You remove the custom logo with Wanan Xposed -> Security Hacks -> Fake System Status.
And you can always restore back to stock.
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It does not trip knox. You remove the custom logo with Wanan Xposed -> Security Hacks -> Fake System Status.
And you can always restore back to stock.
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Sounds great so have you rooted
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Sounds great so have you rooted
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Yep, as soon as I got it. I didn't want to wait around and get things set up and then root later and have to set them all up again
I entertained the idea of giving stock a try but about 30 seconds of the default DPI and VZW bloat put an end to that.
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Yep, as soon as I got it. I didn't want to wait around and get things set up and then root later and have to set them all up again
I entertained the idea of giving stock a try but about 30 seconds of the default DPI and VZW bloat put an end to that.
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LMBO how did you remove bloat and are there any side effects
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LMBO how did you remove bloat and are there any side effects
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The side effects are that you can remove a feature, or a dependency of a feature that you want. That's why I froze them with Titanium Backup; easy to just defrost is something acts weird.
airmaxx23 posted this list of the apps he removed without any problems.
Rooting with the current method will wipe your device. So, until a method comes along that doesn't wipe your device, it's best to do it sooner than later, so you have less stuff to restore and re-download.
Also. Who knows when VZW will push out a patch. Best to root and disable the APK that looks for OTAs before you start getting annoying update popups.
The root method we have no is dead easy, and simple to follow. Takes all of about 5 minutes and you're finished. Very easy and hassle free.
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
deathwithafi said:
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Yes
See my button for a link to all stock apps
deathwithafi said:
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Just wait until the devs come out with a flashable zip or the FXZ is posted. Also, if you want to keep root, I wouldn't plan on updating.
Also worth noting - a factory reset won't change anything anyways.
You can RSD back to stock - but remember like RickRong said - the KK update probably won't be rooted.
I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
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I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
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It's been my understanding that kk uses less resources and is more compatible with older hardware than jb. I'm expecting it to run better then the stock 4.1.2 rom we've got now.
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My junky old infuse runs kitkat better than jb. 1.4 GHz single core 512mb
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I'm sure I probably don't need to ask this, BUT, when Verizon begins rolling this out, would someone please post their success and results? I'm running Carbon today... not sure what it will be tomorrow. I had OSE installed and was overall satisfied, but the navigation buttons were't working and sometimes the keyboard would refuse to pop up, so that was a no-go.
Thank you.
I am currently on system version 9.30.1 and I am rooted. My boot loader isn't unlocked and I don't have a custom recovery installed. I am wondering if being rooted will cause issues once the 4.4 update is released. And if so how do I remove root?
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Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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ezknives said:
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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Yes, you can flash your backup and then take the OTA, but you don't need voodoo if you're unlocked. Re-flash recovery and then flash root.
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Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
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Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
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Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
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Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
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Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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You don't say....
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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Take a look in the S5 and X forums to get the proof you need about KK being hard to root.
AK, I would seriously wait until the devs get hold of the update. Let the devs take the OTA and pull it apart so they can start providing ROMs for SafeStrap. Then, update to KK via SS.
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
netizenmt said:
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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As long as your bootloader is unlocked, all you need to do after you update to the OTA is re-flash recovery and then superuser to regain root.
netizenmt said:
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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AKShotgun said:
I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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netizenmt said:
Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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Sorry if it seems like it im not trying to fight you here but he commented on his google+ post saying Razr M and HD KitKat is already at Verizon labs. So im guessing about a month.
I look forward to being wrong. I really hope we get it in the next few months. I've noticed that each revision of Android has made the need to develop custom ROMs less necessary for many phones. Of course that won't lessen our desire or enthusiasm to push the envelope. But when I think how far we have come from my first Android, the LG Ally and Eclair... There was a phone that was crap stock, but once unlocked and customized, it was a very decent phone for its time and price point. Today, its harder to see the need or difference between stock and custom ROMs, other than removal of bloat and occasionally some new bell or whistle. Still, I can't seem to resist their siren's call any more than the rest of you. Which is why I'm running CM11. Lol!
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