Note 2 vs Note 3: Camera Factor - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, you might have seen my grumpy threads lately. I have a Note 3 that I really like but it has come o my knowledge that the camera on this thing is horrendous at low light. I have tried playing around with settings and while there are sligth improvements, I cant say I am fully satisfied
I was wondering for those of y'all hthat have had a Note 2 (I never did), is the camera better and worth it enough to return the Note 3 and get a 2 off of eBay. With all the new features of the Note 3, does it outweigh the features of the Note 2.
Buying a 2 off of eBay would mean having unlocked AT&T one cause I've heard the Tmobile Note 2s earlier batch have no LTE ...using an AT&T Note 2 on a T mob network might mean no 4.3 updates for me?
What does the Note 3 have going for it that make it despite the camera a better phone than the Note 2 and would y'all go back to a Note 2 despite camera?
I'm not too much a power user but I appreciate multitasking and takign NOTES and doodling which is why I splurged on the Note 3. It has made a huge difference in my life already.

edo101 said:
Hey guys, you might have seen my grumpy threads lately. I have a Note 3 that I really like but it has come o my knowledge that the camera on this thing is horrendous at low light. I have tried playing around with settings and while there are sligth improvements, I cant say I am fully satisfied
I was wondering for those of y'all hthat have had a Note 2 (I never did), is the camera better and worth it enough to return the Note 3 and get a 2 off of eBay. With all the new features of the Note 3, does it outweigh the features of the Note 2.
Buying a 2 off of eBay would mean having unlocked AT&T one cause I've heard the Tmobile Note 2s earlier batch have no LTE ...using an AT&T Note 2 on a T mob network might mean no 4.3 updates for me?
What does the Note 3 have going for it that make it despite the camera a better phone than the Note 2 and would y'all go back to a Note 2 despite camera?
I'm not too much a power user but I appreciate multitasking and takign NOTES and doodling which is why I splurged on the Note 3. It has made a huge difference in my life already.
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The Note 3 is better than Note 2 in every sense possible. CPU, GPU, Camera, Screen, RAM, Sensors, S-Pen, design, some might argue battery. But personally, I just up to 9hrs screen on time. So I'll add battery to the list too. Bottom line, DO NOT go back to Note 2. If you want a low light performer, htc one is the way to go. Cheers.

stanley08 said:
The Note 3 is better than Note 2 in every sense possible. CPU, GPU, Camera, Screen, RAM, Sensors, S-Pen, design, some might argue battery. But personally, I just up to 9hrs screen on time. So I'll add battery to the list too. Bottom line, DO NOT go back to Note 2. If you want a low light performer, htc one is the way to go. Cheers.
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I returned the Note 3 and I am trying the Note 2. Gonna experiment heavily for the next couple of days and if I don't see a big difference then it's back to Note 3. I'm already missing the native Action Memo and improved S pen.
I don't agree on the camera part yet. And it has to be a Note device because I cannot go back to using a bunch of paper for notes. I'm too disorganized for that

@stanley08
I agree with everything you said except for the camera and design.
Camera
More megapixels doesn't make a camera better. And if your priorities are low light, more MP can actually be a bad thing. I haven't been too thrilled with the camera on my note 3, but I think my expectations have become a little high. So if I was solely going for a good camera, I wouldn't choose the note 3 over the note 2.
Design
I definitely think the note 3's design looks a lot better than than the note 2's! no contest for me.
But as far as usability goes I think I'll give the nod to the note 2. The bigger bezels, the rounded corners and pebble shape all felt more comfortable in the hand than the note 3's sexier shape with thinner bezels.
@edo101
I myself was in a similar position albeit before I upgraded from my ancient 3gs.?
I had the note 2 in my sights for a while and by the time I'd saved the cash needed, the note 3 was out. Luckily I had the cash for either but didn't want to buy the note 3 just because it was the latest and greatest.
It was the look that tipped the scales for me(quite ironic, considering what I wrote above), the IR blaster, Air Command (this has been ported over, if you do get a note 2, search for: note 3 apps for note 2 thread) and scrapbooker(which I thought I'd use all the time to bookmark things of interest. But I still just take screen shots lol).
My Reasons to keep the Note 3 would be; The screen, IR Blaster, Battery Life, more guts (better internals), 4G & newer OS and more future support from Samsung (which might not necessarily be a good thing).
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denski101 said:
@stanley08
I agree with everything you said except for the camera and design.
Camera
More megapixels doesn't make a camera better. And if your priorities are low light, more MP can actually be a bad thing. I haven't been too thrilled with the camera on my note 3, but I think my expectations have become a little high. So if I was solely going for a good camera, I wouldn't choose the note 3 over the note 2.
Design
I definitely think the note 3's design looks a lot better than than the note 2's! no contest for me.
But as far as usability goes I think I'll give the nod to the note 2. The bigger bezels, the rounded corners and pebble shape all felt more comfortable in the hand than the note 3's sexier shape with thinner bezels.
@edo101
I myself was in a similar position albeit before I upgraded from my ancient 3gs.?
I had the note 2 in my sights for a while and by the time I'd saved the cash needed, the note 3 was out. Luckily I had the cash for either but didn't want to buy the note 3 just because it was the latest and greatest.
It was the look that tipped the scales for me(quite ironic, considering what I wrote above), the IR blaster, Air Command (this has been ported over, if you do get a note 2, search for: note 3 apps for note 2 thread) and scrapbooker(which I thought I'd use all the time to bookmark things of interest. But I still just take screen shots lol).
My Reasons to keep the Note 3 would be; The screen, IR Blaster, Battery Life, more guts (better internals), 4G & newer OS and more future support from Samsung (which might not necessarily be a good thing).
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I needed to update my post. I am trying the Note 2. I really shoudl go and buy the note 3 from that store since i can afford to and try both simultaneously. I don't know why and i didn't expect it but the Note 3 camera has really turned me off. In the past I have never had to worry about having steady hands and constantly fidgeting with settings to get a decent indoor shot.
I do like the UI of Note 3 but I can already tell the Note 2 has a better camera. I SINCERELY MISS Air Command so I'm gonna have to look at a way to make it available on my note 2.
Now I bought the ntoe 2 locally for 460 tax included but I'm thinking of returning it if I am satisfied and getting one of off ebay for 350 max save a little money and not feel as bad. (I'd root it and hopefully get the Air command) then wait it out for a better camera on Note 4 I hope. does that sound like a good plan?
Oh and any insight on which version of Note 2 I should get, AT&T or Tmbile version. I am currently on MetroPCS which runs off of TMobile
The Note 2 has 4G LTE, I just miss the Note 3's UI (the screen I can manage lol) and the UI (especially camera UI) and AIR COMMAND

Everyone entitled to his own opinion I guess
But for me Note 3 is generally ALOT better than Note 2. However, I change my phones every 5 to 6 months and would be getting the next best thing soon so I don't really dwell on phones.
It's important to get what works better for u.

stanley08 said:
Everyone entitled to his own opinion I guess
But for me Note 3 is generally ALOT better than Note 2. However, I change my phones every 5 to 6 months and would be getting the next best thing soon so I don't really dwell on phones.
It's important to get what works better for u.
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I can't do that without contract lol. And Sammy has spoiled me with the pen. Its made life soo much easier for a disorganized mess like me so I am sticking with Note line until someone makes an alternative (hopefully from nexus line for obvious reasons).
But man the Note 3 as perfect (especially that lovely pen and screen) but that friggin camera man.

I had the note 2 and found the camera better. But I also found the battety life and wifi better on my note 2.plus I get random reboots on note 3 .
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The only thing in note 2 camera that i like, is the capture field, is more wider. The note 3 camera is more narrow, so to capture more field in note 3 you need to step back more than note 2.

cereal86 said:
The only thing in note 2 camera that i like, is the capture field, is more wider. The note 3 camera is more narrow, so to capture more field in note 3 you need to step back more than note 2.
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what did you find out when it comes to low light situations? I am missing the Note 3's screen and pen though
I'm sure there are ROMs I can get here to get Air command without going through Samsung's 4.3 glitchy KNOX edition

edo101 said:
I can't do that without contract lol. And Sammy has spoiled me with the pen. Its made life soo much easier for a disorganized mess like me so I am sticking with Note line until someone makes an alternative (hopefully from nexus line for obvious reasons).
But man the Note 3 as perfect (especially that lovely pen and screen) but that friggin camera man.
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I guess I know the reason(but not exactly sure) why note3 got weird slow camera behaviour because the same problem actually appeared on gs4 as well. I've PMed you and asked for some questions, please check it out.

I had the note 2 and now I have the note 3. I miss the fireworks and night mode. At nightime the note 2 was way better in my opinion. Plus on note 3 less battery life and loads more crapware. And poor wifi.
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I have seen so many posts related to poor wifi on the n9005. I just dont understand it.. surely people are getting faulty units? My wifi is better than my i9100.. and i used to think that was good!
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I had the note 2 before, and I have to say that the 2 typical hardware problems remained:
Camera is crap on low light
low wifi and hsdpa signal
I think thats really sad on a phone like that.... if i want to make pictures at a party with barely light, i sometimes wish my old iphone 4 back with iOS you can't do so much, but the things you can do, you can do in perfection.... who needs 12MP on a blurry picture?
it's really not that difficult to look for a camera modul that is appropriate to a 800$ phone, instead of developing more and more additional funtions that no one uses until it's a complete sw-chaos

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[Q] Hard to decide between Note 3 and Nexus 5

Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
alinescoo said:
Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.

Note 2 or S4

Hello, I'm upgrading soon and would like to know if anyone has experiences with both the Note 2 and S4. I know the spec differences and I'm leaning towards the Note. I would just like opinions of people the have used both. Thanks
Edit: sorry, needs to be moved to q&a section.
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get the S4, so much better than the Note 2, it's faster, better camera, more pocketable, more pixels, better screen, higher ppi, better software, longer battery life and so on.
The only thing Note 2 has is the stylus.
S4 is definitely a better option while doing a direct comparison. Since the price is almost same for both the phones its a pretty valid question.
The are 2 departments in which note 2 excels:
1. Considerably Huge battery
2. Spen with handwriting recognition and a bunch of other features.
So decide accordingly. If u can live without these 2 features go for S4 without hesitating.
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get the S4, so much better than the Note 2, it's faster, better camera, more pocketable, more pixels, better screen, higher ppi, better software, longer battery life and so on.
The only thing Note 2 has is the stylus.
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Did you say longer battery life? You sir need an intervention.
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Note 2.... Hands down...
10 Months back i was in the same situation as u... but i opted Note 2 and very much satisfied that i made a right choice.
It's been 10 months now but i still don't feel need to upgrade to Note 3 either. This beast really rocks.
Now I've updated it to 4.3 as well, through OTA
S4 is a phone like all other phones, But Note 2 is "Note 2"
Note 2 FOREVER !It's very good
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Used to be a S4 owner but i sold it to buy Note 2 and i don't regret.
S4 over Note 2
- better display quality but not a huge difference , our eyes cannot make such a big difference between their ppi's.
- better camera , here you can see the differences.
- newer software ( but honestly i still prefer android 4.3 instead of 4.4 )
Note 2 over S4
- way much better battery , around 6+ hours of screen on with 1h games + 1h talk + 80% of the day wi-fi on
- better gaming , since the display it's bigger
- nicer design
This is my opinion,i hope it will be helpful for you.
Thanks for the input everyone! I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Note II. I went with my gut on the Infuse and that was a great phone, now I'm going with my gut again on the Note.
:fingers-crossed:
Forever Samsung Note series (N7100-N8000 10.1):good:
whtsoxfan1 said:
Thanks for the input everyone! I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Note II. I went with my gut on the Infuse and that was a great phone, now I'm going with my gut again on the Note.
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Welcome in our beloved n7100 forum. Congratulations :victory::victory::victory:
1 year and 3 months, don't regret buying it 1 single day.
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★Note II = True beast, since 2012.
☆S4 = Performance house, since 2013.
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Note 2 = improved usability, you have to spen practically a digital agenda
S4 = A modern smartphone
Now if you can buy, buy a note 3, the newest version of note 2 and much better than the S4
A Samsung Note Series is like a black dude.
Once you go black, you'll never go back mthrfkcr.
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note 2 obviously
CZ of the 2 gb ram ..it's the the ultimate phone till now...i hope you have grabed one...use for 2-3 months and wait kit kat official update after that unlock the potentials in your device by rooting and putting custom rom
Go with Galaxy S4
Seriously? Please add some context. Both phones are good but they're meant for different people. Well, sort of.
S4 is a more "mainstream" phone. A phone nobody will have problem using. A phone that is "compact" and has all the features necessary and more. It is meant to act as a phone suitable for everybody.
Note 2,different story. Bigger screen, stylus and note taking apps etc. Do the math. Note is basically a phone originally meant to replace paper and pencil. Of course it's much more than that. In fact most of us buy it because it has bigger screen. Also it's kind of less "mainstream" if you ask me. Want to differ from the crowd? Lol just joking.
I got Note not because I have particularly large hands but I still enjoy a big screen and like taking notes etc and act all cool by using the stylus. Joking again, I find the stylus rather useful.
So there you go, pick your side. Note(pun not intented) that S4 Is one generation ahead(year older), but the under-the-hood differences aren't too notable if you ask me. Personally I love big screens. Makes power usage easy and fun. Sure the big screen can be a disadvantage sometimes, can't argue with that.
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I would just wait another month and get S5 (almost as big as note 2, much better performance, but no stylus.... )
Almost as big as note 2?
Note 2 is 5.5"

Decision: Note 3 v. Galaxy S V

Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
Shoot... I just read Jonny's sticky about questions... sorry mods. Please move this to the Q&A forum.
pgriffin said:
Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
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I just came from getting my Note 3, I sold my Xperia Z1 to get this, I like this phone, looks cool, and is fluid but I need to root and put a custom rom, I hate the bloatware, also I want a few tweeks, the phone its great, for me it just need a few tweek, S5 is nothing from other world, I think that some guys here will port some stuff from S5 to Note3, so i will say go for the Note 3, its almost the same, note 3 has 3GBs of ram instead of 2.
AlphaRoX said:
I just came from getting my Note 3, I sold my Xperia Z1 to get this, I like this phone, looks cool, and is fluid but I need to root and put a custom rom, I hate the bloatware, also I want a few tweeks, the phone its great, for me it just need a few tweek, S5 is nothing from other world, I think that some guys here will port some stuff from S5 to Note3, so i will say go for the Note 3, its almost the same, note 3 has 3GBs of ram instead of 2.
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Cool, thanks for your opinion. I agree that 3GB is better than 2GB. I wonder if the processor specs of the SV are that much better than the Note 3.
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Hi all... I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I want to thank you for all your help and analysis in smartphones.
I had a Galaxy S 4 for so long, and I'm stuck with the tough decision of choosing between a Note 3 or waiting a few more weeks for the SV.
I consider myself a power user, and I think the stylus is really cool. Do the new perks of the SV outweigh the features of the Note 3?
I'm a business professional, so the Note 3 does have that appeal--but I'm concerned that many people don't end up even using the stylus.
Your thoughts are appreciated. PS, I'm sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
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Note 3 owns every other phone out there. 3gb RAM. Period.
S4 and S5 are jokes comparatively.
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Note 3 owns every other phone out there. 3gb RAM. Period.
S4 and S5 are jokes comparatively.
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Thanks, dude. I don't know about the S5 being a joke--it can definitely hold its own.
By the way, are you guys using the stylus?
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Thanks, dude. I don't know about the S5 being a joke--it can definitely hold its own.
By the way, are you guys using the stylus?
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Believe me when I say that Snapdragon 800 is enough, and 801 is just a variant with a few tweeks.
The USB 3.0 it is great, the phone charges faster and the baterry is great same as Z1.
And im not an artist and my handwriting sucks but I use it a few times, also the apps for the pen are cool, this is my first day with the note, the only thing I hate is knox, i want to root so bad.
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Believe me when I say that Snapdragon 800 is enough, and 801 is just a variant with a few tweeks.
The USB 3.0 it is great, the phone charges faster and the baterry is great same as Z1.
And im not an artist and my handwriting sucks but I use it a few times, also the apps for the pen are cool, this is my first day with the note, the only thing I hate is knox, i want to root so bad.
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Note 3. I've owned it for almost 5 months now.
Although I don't use the stylus a lot, the phone itself is very fluid. The only downside I see is its camera in low light conditions. I'm quite sure the S5 wont be that much of an improvement even though they say its heaps and bounds better than the s4, with how samsung does its business recently, I'm skeptical.
So yeah, 3 GB > 2 GB. Fingerprint scanner? Heartrate scanner? Slightly better camera. Nah, the functionalities of the stylus still is more beneficial than those things.
Also 33% increase in price for the S5 than note 3 doesnt appeal to me
I had the same dilemma,
I took Note 3 and I'm glad, perfect device for everyday office work, watching movies, for social networks etc.
updated my N3 to KitKat and need to say, that battery life on 4.3 was better but it might be my impression only,
but anyway: very good device,
The S5 is a lesser device compared to the Note 3.
It has less RAM, smaller screen, no Spen... The only thing it has is a fingerprint scanner and 3MP more in the camera.
As for the heartrate scanner, this one works on the Note 3 and the results match my pulse meter: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android.heartrate.lite
I wouldn't even consider the S5.
S5 is basically a smaller Note 3 with a slightly improved camera sensor and less ram. So size is really the biggest practical difference, since I don't think you'll have problems with 2GB ram.
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Note 3 is cheaper. And better. Did I mention that it's cheaper? And better? I don't think I said that it's cheaper and better yet.
Go for a note 3 I'd say. The s5 is really lackluster when it comes to features. The note 3 is the only phone next to the note 2 I've owned that allows me to not use my pc so much. It's an all in one media device that just works.
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Just close your eyes and buy note 3. I can guarantee you that you will have happy face. Also for the reasons you have mentioned, note series is for you. Stylus is really functional for those who know how it works
Once you move to note series, you probably won't ever go back to S series. Just one advice is that try to find on a cheaper price as you might have to move to note 4 later this year
The specs are better, and so is the price. The n9005 wins easily
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Note 3 pros:
-3GB RAM
-Higher storage options
-S Pen
-Bigger screen
S5 pros:
-Water and dust resistance.
-Better camera (heaps ahead according to some camera shots)
-Heart rate sensor and a fingerprint sensor
-Better UI (although this might come with an update or get ported)
-Faster processor (not by much but faster)
-Smaller screen but with better PPI
So, it really depends, look at the benefits of both models carefully and get what suits you more.
I got a Note 3 because I'm sticking to the Note line from now, my upgrade will be the Note 4.
Right now i have note 3- it is great phone but why is from plastic. I was paid over 500 pounds. Now after few moths start scratching. I was hope the next s5 will be from premium material but isn't and I disappointed. My new phone will be xperia z2 or HTC ONE M8. This is just my opinion.
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Right now i have note 3- it is great phone but why is from plastic. I was paid over 500 pounds. Now after few moths start scratching. I was hope the next s5 will be from premium material but isn't and I disappointed. My new phone will be xperia z2 or HTC ONE M8. This is just my opinion.
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Because most metal bodies on phones cause problems. You can't replace the battery. They scratch and scuff way more than plastic. The money you paid was for what's inside, not what's outside.
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I highly recommend the note 3 over any other phone. The s5 is the best phone of "normal " proportions (alongside the nexus 5) but you won't get a phone that compares to the note 3 until the note 4 surfaces.
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Note 4 vs. Note 3

I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
new battery ........ give it a week of cycles
Samsung came out and said there was an issue with the battery last week. They have already issued an update. Tmobile started getting it today. We should be getting it in the ne,t fews days. Search google for comparisons of this version and the update. Battery seems fixed after the update.
I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
Hard to compare something you've used for a year to something you just got. Give it some time.
Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
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Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I'm gonna have to agree ENkrypt.. The picture on the left looks much clearer and realistic while the one on the right looks way off like a insta gram filter was on top of it (excuse my lack of the appropriate vocabulary in describing camera quality).
And I ditto the fact that you need to give the new battery some full to dead cycles before you can make an accurate statement on the battery life. Also of course on your Note 3 with MOAR has plenty of the bloat and pointless background processes removed which play a huge factor.
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
Turn off Auto adjust screen tone in display settings!
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Was sitting on an upgrade. And had an s3
JAG50 said:
I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
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It seems like you don't want to like the phone. Lol. First, you are comparing performance between a phone that has stock firmware on it to a phone that is rooted and has an optimized custom rom. That's not a comparison. As far as the pictures, I'm agreeing with everyone else the one on the left looks better. The one on the right looks like you either have a filter on it or flash. And it still doesn't look as good as the other. The Note 3 is a great phone, but the 4 is just better. And the cameras are definitely night and day. But to each his own. You won't know what you are missing once the devs start to give this thing some love.
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Note 4 is not that huge as an upgrade. Should stick to note 3 till note 5 comes or you got alot of money.
Nope. I don't agree that it isn't a big enough upgrade. The camera is better. The screen is better. The pen is better. The multi window is easier. I love the fingerprint scanner -- which is the thing I thought I'd have no use for! It feels better in my hand. I know I'll find more as I use the phone, but so far I think it was a great upgrade from the Note 3.
Samsung Rolled out an OTA update to fix battery problem on the launch day.
and for camera try using other camera apps and then please inform me about cam result. Congrats for a New Note 4. :thumbup:
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I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
Hmmmm.... I've seen a post like this before.
On the Note 2 vs Note 3 thread...
I went from my Note 3 to the Note 4 and so far I am happy with my new phone. The screen is absolutely gorgeous!
I was eligible for an upgrade so I didn't have to pay a dime for my Note 4. I do not think the differences are enough to run out and sell your Note 3 either.
One thing I do not like about the Note 4 is the speaker is now on the back of the phone. I absolutely hate that!! The phone is very fast and my battery life is outstanding. I also love how I can charge my phone in like 30 mins.
I have had the 2, the 3 , and now the 4. I still have my 3 and the wifey has the 2. Here's my take on the 3 vs 4. The new screen is ridiculous. I bought the 4 just for the screen actually. The brightness outdoors, on auto brightness the 4 is slightly brighter. Some don't like the speaker on the back but I do. When I don't have my headphones, the sound reverberates better when on the kickstand than the 3, shooting the sound to the right. I always found myself cupping my hand near the speaker to hear the sound. The speaker may not sound as good as the 3 but it is way louder than the 3. I remember everyone saying that the 3 wasn't that great of an upgrade over the 2. Personally it was well worth it.
JAG50 said:
I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
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Some of the things you posted are opinions, i won't comment on them. But other things either don't make sense according to facts or you are comparing a stock samsung rom to a custom rom. There is no comparison there. I kinda wonder if you are trolling.
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OK. The Galaxy S6 edge rocks.

(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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kolembo said:
(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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Regarding the S6, I don't feel the glass back and the camera sticking out as on the iPhone 6 and 6 plus...Also software wise it does look smoother but the size of the icons and the whole UI looks kinda ugly, especially the percentage bar, it's just too big...also non removable battery is a miss.
If only the note 4 would somewhat benefit from the S6's software
I think Ill stick.Note 4 has got looks but hey s6 looks like iphone 6 same rounded metal frame,same speaker style,same protruding volume buttons.Although s6 edge could be worthy to switch over but can be cleared only when they are available in stores.Except processor Note 4 has an upper hand
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I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP 3.7MP (Edited) works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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The Note 4 has a 3.7MP front camera...
The only thing which I like on the S6 is the 64bit processor, new camera UI and the speaker on the bottom.
Without microsd, its crap.
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Without microsd, its crap.
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I originally thought that too, but when I really think about it, I could actually do without the MicroSD. For sale, Note 4U with extra battery, 2 cases, Gear VR, used once, for best offer!! Nuff said!
I like it, but there is no s pen do I don't think it can replace my Note 4.
Definitely much more compelling than the s5 though, which made me yawn.
I'll stick with note 4 ofc.
But if they won't give that better touchwiz to note 4. I won't probably buy another Samsung phone again. limiting exynos 5433 to 32 bit another retarded thing too.
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+1
Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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battery will be probably same with s5.
M glad i left S series at S3. Samsung started distroying it after that. Not worth. The true class in note series.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
Staying with my note 4
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
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s5 and note 4 has different battery life. it can just reach s5. probably 5 hour sot will be most for s6.
Waiting for note 5
You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
jetbruceli said:
You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
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It'd be great if they give us 5.0.2 with the new touchwiz but i doubt that will happen...
You never know, maybe that's one of the reasons for the lack of lollipop on the Note 4 so far (optimising TW)...I hope.
Happy the S6 looks good. Samsung has two ticks a year.
I always keep my phones for two years so I'll pass.

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