Hi,
I am currently running stock rooted MDL with TWRP on my AT&T SGH-I337. I used Motochopper to obtain root. I'd like to get to the latest update released by AT&T and still have root. I will not be running custom ROMs in the future. Can someone point me to the process I should use? I've done a fair amount of reading but I am suffering from a bit of information overload. Thanks in advance.
boone8576 said:
Hi,
I am currently running stock rooted MDL with TWRP on my AT&T SGH-I337. I used Motochopper to obtain root. I'd like to get to the latest update released by AT&T and still have root. I will not be running custom ROMs in the future. Can someone point me to the process I should use? I've done a fair amount of reading but I am suffering from a bit of information overload. Thanks in advance.
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I'm saying this for your own good. If you don't understand what it is you are reading, don't do anything. Are you sure you want to do something that will brick your phone if you don't understand 100% of what it is you are doing to it? You said you have done some reading so you obviously know where to look for information. I suggest you take as much time as you need to re-read the information, research the parts you don't understand, and then when you know what is being discussed and what the possible complications are proceed. Taking shortcuts when you don't understand things will only mess your phone up.
If you decide to not take this advice, that's fine, just ignore it (no need to reply), but I highly recommend you take the suggestion. Good luck.
Definitely make sure you understand what you're reading. If you want a stick update without losing root, use the StockUp ROM. Read before flashing. You'll need a 4.3 kernel and loki. Make sure you know exactly what you're doing before you start to avoid bricks.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Foxhound ROM
scott14719 said:
I'm saying this for your own good. If you don't understand what it is you are reading, don't do anything. Are you sure you want to do something that will brick your phone if you don't understand 100% of what it is you are doing to it? You said you have done some reading so you obviously know where to look for information. I suggest you take as much time as you need to re-read the information, research the parts you don't understand, and then when you know what is being discussed and what the possible complications are proceed. Taking shortcuts when you don't understand things will only mess your phone up.
If you decide to not take this advice, that's fine, just ignore it (no need to reply), but I highly recommend you take the suggestion. Good luck.
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Thanks for the word of caution. I know you don't know me from Adam but if you did you'd know that I wouldn't attempt anything until I was completely comfortable with the process.
DeadlySin9 said:
Definitely make sure you understand what you're reading. If you want a stick update without losing root, use the StockUp ROM. Read before flashing. You'll need a 4.3 kernel and loki. Make sure you know exactly what you're doing before you start to avoid bricks.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Foxhound ROM
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This gives me the direction I was looking for. I'll do the research on the items you mentioned and go from there. Thanks a million.
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I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?
This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.
thats because one doesnt exist.
Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.
nenn said:
thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.
I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
which one of those work?
I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
shibby123 said:
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
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Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
scott14719 said:
Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
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ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
shibby123 said:
ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
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Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
blbeesley said:
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
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flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
TheAxman said:
Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
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so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
shibby123 said:
so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
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Will heimdall use the zip downloaded from sammobile or do you have to extract the .tar.md5 from the zip?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
also check out this post
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your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
TheAxman said:
your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
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community
cheers, buddy
Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.
michael9441 said:
Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.
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I'm not sure about the MF3 update. I think it probably is still rootable as the Canadian devices don't have a locked bootloader, but somebody else should confirm this. I never updated my Bell S4, because i know on the MDL it atleast works for sure, and when installing custom ROMS, you can atleast be always updated to the build of the custom ROM regardless.
I think you are fine though, i would look for the motochopper thread, and i think it would have a warning if there was any incompatibility with a certain build.
And for removing root, its simple. Use triangle away to reset your flash counter, and you can just unroot (if on stock) or odin flash to go back to stock.
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I'm not sure about the MF3 update. I think it probably is still rootable as the Canadian devices don't have a locked bootloader, but somebody else should confirm this. I never updated my Bell S4, because i know on the MDL it atleast works for sure, and when installing custom ROMS, you can atleast be always updated to the build of the custom ROM regardless.
I think you are fine though, i would look for the motochopper thread, and i think it would have a warning if there was any incompatibility with a certain build.
And for removing root, its simple. Use triangle away to reset your flash counter, and you can just unroot (if on stock) or odin flash to go back to stock.
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Yes there is a new method that came out about 2 weeks ago. Can any issues arise with it being such a new method? Sorry I'm more familiar with pc software and new sometimes has bugs, problems, etc. Motochopper doesn't work, I tried it but it just says root successful and when i try to use a rooted app it says my phone isn't rooted. As for flashing roms with odin do you know any good websites that have have a list of them and reviews, etc. Also what happens if i accept an ota update when rooted?
Questions go in Q&A. Check out this guide. Read up. Cheers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Rooting ATT Galaxy S4 But Why Bother?
michael9441 said:
Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.
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Apparently ATT has locked the bootloader which means essentially that you can root all you want BUT you can't flash anything to the phone without bricking the phone. At this point, there is no way to flash this phone how you want it for the average Joe. But I ran across an article that describes how ATT has programmed this to prevent the average Joe meaning probably 98% of us from messing with the firmware. Apparently someone has succeeded in cracking this. Why can't our illustrious developers do the same? No disrespect intended here because we have some of the best such as Chainfire and Mark Skippen and others. Anyway here is the link to the article I ran across. Hope this info helps someone.:good:
http://threatpost.com/researcher-unlocks-samsung-galaxy-s4-bootloader-for-att-verizon-android-phones
Developers please take note! :good:
AHLASSICH said:
Apparently ATT has locked the bootloader which means essentially that you can root all you want BUT you can't flash anything to the phone without bricking the phone. At this point, there is no way to flash this phone how you want it for the average Joe. But I ran across an article that describes how ATT has programmed this to prevent the average Joe meaning probably 98% of us from messing with the firmware. Apparently someone has succeeded in cracking this. Why can't our illustrious developers do the same? No disrespect intended here because we have some of the best such as Chainfire and Mark Skippen and others. Anyway here is the link to the article I ran across. Hope this info helps someone.:good:
http://threatpost.com/researcher-unlocks-samsung-galaxy-s4-bootloader-for-att-verizon-android-phones
Developers please take note! :good:
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"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?
My Sincere Apologies!
scott14719 said:
"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?
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Thank you for setting me straight. I will take your advise seriously. I have read and read through the forums and I never saw this information. I suppose I will get the hang of it. I will try to be a little more diligent in my research from now on. I did not realize what a pinned thread was and I will certainly check there first from now on. I dare say it is very difficult to follow the tracks on the different posts to arrive at a correct conclusion. Very convoluted especially for a noob like me!
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Thank you for setting me straight. I will take your advise seriously. I have read and read through the forums and I never saw this information. I suppose I will get the hang of it. I will try to be a little more diligent in my research from now on. I did not realize what a pinned thread was and I will certainly check there first from now on. I dare say it is very difficult to follow the tracks on the different posts to arrive at a correct conclusion. Very convoluted especially for a noob like me!
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No problem. Part of the difficulty (as you stated) is the fact that this forum (AT&T S4) is fragmented and hard to follow. There are several different carriers with several different firmwares all being represented in one forum. That is why the pinned threads are so important. The people who maintain those threads put a lot of time into them and make sure they are constantly updated. The Q & A forum is nearly useless (besides the pinned threads in it) due to the repetitive questions clogging it up. And people not following forum rules make the other sub forums difficult to use.
Most (99%) of all of the questions people come here to ask have already been addressed (usually several times) but people don't take the time or effort to read the answers, they come here to make another post about the same stuff over and over again, which causes even more confusion.
So, if you follow the pinned threads, and a few of the threads that tend to stay towards the top of the "General" section, you will be up to date on most things dealing with the S4s covered in this forum. Good luck.
scott14719 said:
"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?
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I think I am on mf3 since i got the most recent update from Fido. I thought that all updates are the same for the carriers that use the spectrum.
michael9441 said:
I think I am on mf3 since i got the most recent update from Fido. I thought that all updates are the same for the carriers that use the spectrum.
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Check and see what your baseband / firmware says it is in "about phone" in the settings.
So after a bunch of searching, apparently going to a Samsung Experience store inside Best Buy, they can and usually will downgrade from MK2. I've checked and my local BB has the Samsung Exp. So I'm going to call after work and see if this is true...
What, if anything could I do right after I get it done, to possibly help others to do this...
like make an image or a recovery file or what ever would be necessary for others...
I won't have a lot of time as this is my only phone and I'll need to get it up and running ASAP. but I can do what I can to help if possible.
Please provide app names & or exact steps necessary to do what you suggest. Thanks.
Will let you know tonight if it gets done & what I can provide.
Will ask for this thread to be deleted if I can't get downgraded.
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So after a bunch of searching, apparently going to a Samsung Experience store inside Best Buy, they can and usually will downgrade from MK2. I've checked and my local BB has the Samsung Exp. So I'm going to call after work and see if this is true...
What, if anything could I do right after I get it done, to possibly help others to do this...
like make an image or a recovery file or what ever would be necessary for others...
I won't have a lot of time as this is my only phone and I'll need to get it up and running ASAP. but I can do what I can to help if possible.
Please provide app names & or exact steps necessary to do what you suggest. Thanks.
Will let you know tonight if it gets done & what I can provide.
Will ask for this thread to be deleted if I can't get downgraded.
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No one can downgrade from MK2. Not you, not AT&T, and not Best Buys. The only way Samsung can do it is to switch motherboards. It is possible to downgrade from NB1 to MK2...sort of. There is a thread about it in the general section. For all applicable purposes, it is downgrading back to MK2, though the bootloader isn't actually reverted, it just excepts the MK2 files with a few modifications.
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No one can downgrade from MK2. Not you, not AT&T, and not Best Buys.
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This makes me feel useless (which I probably am)
Dabreaker9 said:
This makes me feel useless (which I probably am)
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Why? Samsung / ATT made it this way. The Devs here at XDA have done an amazing job of finding a way to put MK2 system files back with the NB1 bootloader. It has made things possible that otherwise couldn't be done at this point...and others are still working on other possibilities.
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Don't worry about this. I've sent it in for repairs and I'll probably be purchasing a second development Nook for the future.
I've been trying to find time to give this a try. Maybe tomorrow?
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I've been trying to find time to give this a try. Maybe tomorrow?
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Thank you so much! B&N did not make developing on this device easy. The nougat update (which I hope will show up at some point) should give us the full software (hopefully). Lots of hope.
I'd love to do this for you.
I do have a working understanding of rooting various devices, rooting, installing custom ROMs, basic adb/fastboot functions, etc. However, I am far from an expert or developer and the linked forum post is fairly confusing to me. It seems to suggest that the tool won't work at all with 6.0 devices. Google didn't help.
If you could explain exactly what you need done, I'd be more than happy to pull the bin for you.
Yeah, same here. I'd love to help, but I'm not quite sure what to do.
I don't want to brick my device either. You didn't brick it using MTK did you?
dragonmere said:
I'd love to do this for you.
I do have a working understanding of rooting various devices, rooting, installing custom ROMs, basic adb/fastboot functions, etc. However, I am far from an expert or developer and the linked forum post is fairly confusing to me. It seems to suggest that the tool won't work at all with 6.0 devices. Google didn't help.
If you could explain exactly what you need done, I'd be more than happy to pull the bin for you.
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Are they going to fix it though, after you made a big mess of it (and probably voided the warranty)?
smileygon10 said:
Are they going to fix it though, after you made a big mess of it (and probably voided the warranty)?
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All it needs is a flash of the stock image. It really depends on what they decide to do. In most cases companies will just flash it and resell or send it back. Fairly minimal. It's a worthless brick to me right now.
It doesn't take a large mess to brick a device. One file mishap and the device can simply decide not to boot.
Regardless, if they won't fix under warranty many will still allow repairs for a service charge.