Will we keep root on kitkat - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

With an update to kitkat happening in the near future I started to think that root may not be so easy. Our bootloader being locked down don't help matters. Right now Kingo is giving users problems and the only other option being vroot.
But what if neither of these work with kitkat?
I will not take an update until I confirm root is possible.
If there's any devs out there that can unlock this bad boy please don't give up.
So what's everyone else think?

I think that in the future people who want root will need to buy a developer's edition.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium

Frank Westlake said:
I think that in the future people who want root will need to buy a developer's edition.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
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True but the unfortunate thing is Verizon and or Samsung don't make enough available.
Would be nice if they started to manufacture more dev units in the future.
Or Verizon can just unlock the bootloaders.

Harleydroid said:
True but the unfortunate thing is Verizon and or Samsung don't make enough available.
Would be nice if they started to manufacture more dev units in the future.
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I'm guessing that they will make more. There will, and may now be, some significant legal difference between the two. A lot of people want rooted phones so when bootloaders are no longer exploitable they will come up with a scheme to exploit those root-wanters.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium

I heard a while ago that kitkat could break some root apps. I wonder if anyone is experiencing that?
I haven't heard anyone say anything about it so hopefully that's not a factor anymore.

Harleydroid said:
I heard a while ago that kitkat could break some root apps. I wonder if anyone is experiencing that?
I haven't heard anyone say anything about it so hopefully that's not a factor anymore.
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Look up Chainfire on Google+ he has a write up on root breakage with KitKat in his community. Lots of good stuff there.

Misterxtc said:
Look up Chainfire on Google+ he has a write up on root breakage with KitKat in his community. Lots of good stuff there.
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Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his G+

not worth update
Harleydroid said:
Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his G+
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i have KK on another phone(razr maxx) and no root problems. the difference btw jb and kk isn't worth any potential problems. kk is such a minor update i won't update the note3 until a root is out there and tested

Harleydroid said:
Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his
Edut
Nermind i found him.
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Looks like kitkat could be soon. Probably still a month or more out but thought I'd share this.
http://www.elementalxdesigns.com/eclipse/showthread.php?t=8759
Samsung lays out which devices will get Android 4.4.2 KitKat

Anybody hear any news on kitkat for us Verizon guys?
I see Tmo guys have been able to root 4.4.2 with Chainfires CF Autoroot tool but it trips knox.
Wonder how this is going to be for us?
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipse Note 3??

Kingo might work.

XzxBATTxzX said:
Kingo might work.
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Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??

Harleydroid said:
Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??
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Thought we were talking about Verizon?

XzxBATTxzX said:
Thought we were talking about Verizon?
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Lol yes we are I was just saying that kingo didn't work for them but was before kitkat.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??

Everything I've read about how Kitkat screws up access to SD card makes me want to have no part of it. When I hear it is coming to vzw I plan to root and try to figure out how to stay stock mje and block updates. The only thing I really want fixed is the compass and since Nobody admits it's a problem I don't expect any update to fix it.
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recDNA said:
Everything I've read about how Kitkat screws up access to SD card makes me want to have no part of it. When I hear it is coming to vzw I plan to root and try to figure out how to stay stock mje and block updates. The only thing I really want fixed is the compass and since Nobody admits it's a problem I don't expect any update to fix it.
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Yes from what I have read guys are not happy with the kitkat update. Of course thats on the other carriers.
I guess we will just have to wait and see
?Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3?

,Kitkat is Kitkat. No way we'll have free access to our sd cards
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Harleydroid said:
Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??
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Tmobile guys don't need kingo to root since they have an unlocked bootloader. If it wasn't for t-mobile's poor network compared to verizon I'd switch in a heat beat.

sulla65 said:
Tmobile guys don't need kingo to root since they have an unlocked bootloader. If it wasn't for t-mobile's poor network compared to verizon I'd switch in a heat beat.
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They were having trouble rooting the kitkat build on tmo. My friend just picked up a tmo note 3 and the only way for him to root was to use chainfires CF autoroot but it trips knox. Which he didn't care.
?Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3?

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[Q] NC4 Root Progress?

I own a SM-N900V on NC4 and I've read that a root method for NC4 does not exist yet. Is there a place where progress is given/notified on when this will be completed?
CarsonDaly516m4 said:
I own a SM-N900V on NC4 and I've read that a root method for NC4 does not exist yet. Is there a place where progress is given/notified on when this will be completed?
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Someone will make a new thread when anything is discovered. Youll prolly be waiting a long time
Please allow me to rephrase the question....is root for nc4 for us who took the ota update without ever being rooted ever going to be available given the fact that most users already have a rooted device before being on nc4? Is *anyone* even working on it at all? or should we just give up all hope and not even bother given the fact that it is only a handful of us w/o root on nc4 that for whatever reason we took the plunge knowing the consequences of possibly not having root for a while if ever at all?
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it may be never is the rumor but you never know.
for example the bounty for root for the S5 is currently at around $15,000 and no takers so that speaks to the depth of the situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52603311&postcount=12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52609797&postcount=42
I would not get your hopes up anytime soon, this is why I stayed on NC2 and disabled OTA's after reading the psa by hashcode.
Thanks for this thread! I'm also hoping for a root for NC4 some day... I just ordered a Note 3 (should come in the mail today), but I think it'll have NC4 on it. I didn't research enough, first, to be sure I was getting a phone that could be rooted.
bounty has reached almost $18,000 just for root so you can be assured its getting worked on but also how hard it must be for such a bounty to exist.
here is the bounty thread if you want to add to the money pile
fletch33 said:
bounty has reached almost $18,000 just for root so you can be assured its getting worked on but also how hard it must be for such a bounty to exist.
here is the bounty thread if you want to add to the money pile
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That appears to be a bounty for the S5 root... Is there an official bounty for the Note 3 NC4 root?
Are are the two very closely related? (as in, if there was a root method for the S5, then could we expect a root method for the Note 3 to quickly follow? If so, then maybe a bounty for the Note 3 wouldn't be necessary)
Is there any way to switch to NC2? Or do we have to stay on NC4?
AranelAlasse said:
That appears to be a bounty for the S5 root... Is there an official bounty for the Note 3 NC4 root?
Are are the two very closely related? (as in, if there was a root method for the S5, then could we expect a root method for the Note 3 to quickly follow? If so, then maybe a bounty for the Note 3 wouldn't be necessary)
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99% if it works on S5 then that discover exploit would work on N3
ForeverZ3RO said:
Is there any way to switch to NC2? Or do we have to stay on NC4?
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If you're on NC4 then for now you have nowhere else to go - you are locked in tight.
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fletch33 said:
bounty has reached almost $18,000 just for root so you can be assured its getting worked on but also how hard it must be for such a bounty to exist.
here is the bounty thread if you want to add to the money pile
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At that price, you'd think some tech or engineer from Samsung would sneak something out...lol
<Note3>
And hopefully we would benefit from that leak onto the sgn3.....
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wheres the genius ? figure it out
come on man I know theres someone that can figure out for us
why cant we do what ppl did on i337 kit kat downgraded to 4.3 while keeping the 4.4 bootloader then rooted and upgraded back to 4.4 to get all network connectivity working
cant someone create a similar downgrade process ? so I dont have the paperweight un rooted phone !
art90262 said:
And hopefully we would benefit from that leak onto the sgn3.....
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Not sure if you all heard head but geohot released towel root 1 click root method for gs5 that works on the gn3 as well!!
Posted from my beast of a VZW Note 3!!

Can Note 3 still be rooted?

Is it still possible to root Verizon Galaxy Note 3? I am no longer able to root my Verizon Note 2 because of 4.4.2. And I am thinking of getting a new phone because of it.
I like the large size. I watch a lot of videos. I like the S pen but could live without it.
I heard that Note 4 will be out soon. Does anyone know if there will be a root for that? Probably not out yet, but I thought I would ask
Thanks
Michael
ms2sf said:
Is it still possible to root Verizon Galaxy Note 3? I am no longer able to root my Verizon Note 2 because of 4.4.2. And I am thinking of getting a new phone because of it.
I like the large size. I watch a lot of videos. I like the S pen but could live without it.
I heard that Note 4 will be out soon. Does anyone know if there will be a root for that? Probably not out yet, but I thought I would ask
Thanks
Michael
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It's rootable with TowelRoot. You should be able to root your Note 2 with TowelRoot as well. https://towelroot.com/
SirBindy said:
It's rootable with TowelRoot. You should be able to root your Note 2 with TowelRoot as well. https://towelroot.com/
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Thanks! Will let you know WHEN it works
ms2sf said:
Thanks! Will let you know WHEN it works
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Sir Bindy,
Do you know if https://towelroot.com/ is safe? I received "tr.apk is not commonly downloaded and could be dangerous".
Thanks for your continued support
Michael
ms2sf said:
Sir Bindy,
Do you know if https://towelroot.com/ is safe? I received "tr.apk is not commonly downloaded and could be dangerous".
Thanks for your continued support
Michael
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It is safe. I just used it on a replacement Note 3 that I got and didn't have any issues. Most apk's you download will prompt that warning based on certain security settings in your browser.
DaPoets said:
It is safe. I just used it on a replacement Note 3 that I got and didn't have any issues. Most apk's you download will prompt that warning based on certain security settings in your browser.
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Good to know, Thanks. I can't wait to try it.
SirBindy said:
It's rootable with TowelRoot. You should be able to root your Note 2 with TowelRoot as well. https://towelroot.com/
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Are there any roms you would recommend? Jasmine sounds great, but what is possible with a 4.4.2 note 3? Root but is that all?
I'm coming from a locked bootloader S3, never got to experience the joy of having custom Roms...
waterbottels said:
Are there any roms you would recommend? Jasmine sounds great, but what is possible with a 4.4.2 note 3? Root but is that all?
I'm coming from a locked bootloader S3, never got to experience the joy of having custom Roms...
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I love JasmineROM v1.9. But, I also really like ObjectiveROM v1.1.
SirBindy said:
I love JasmineROM v1.9. But, I also really like ObjectiveROM v1.1.
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pros and cons to either?
I'm a college student so i really want the tethering, as well as the spen features. also stability is a big one as well.

[Q] Advice on getting rooted

I just received my phone yesterday, and updated to 4.4.4 in ignorance. I realized Towelroot doesn't work on 4.4.4.
Without root, I feel the restrictions of the device - there are many things I cannot do. (I owned a Galaxy S2 prior to this - I still like it - didn't realize how many things I took for granted which can only be done after root!)
How can I get the Verizon Note 3 rooted?
I was wondering if Towelroot would work on 4.4.4. So you have tried and can verify that it doesn't work???
BParkerson said:
I was wondering if Towelroot would work on 4.4.4. So you have tried and can verify that it doesn't work???
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Yes - I have tried. And I can confirm it does not work.
hirak99 said:
I just received my phone yesterday, and updated to 4.4.4 in ignorance. I realized Towelroot doesn't work on 4.4.4.
Without root, I feel the restrictions of the device - there are many things I cannot do. (I owned a Galaxy S2 prior to this - I still like it - didn't realize how many things I took for granted which can only be done after root!)
How can I get the Verizon Note 3 rooted?
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As of right now....there is nothing you can do root it.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
There is no root method as of now and I believe most of the devs that worked on getting root for updates and devs that worked on safestrap no longer support this device. So unless some of the new devs for this device can figure it out you may be SOL.
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Okay. Is there any way to downgrade it? What if I do a factory reset?
hirak99 said:
Okay. Is there any way to downgrade it? What if I do a factory reset?
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No way to downgrade without root. I dont know how you obtained the phone, but if thru regular channels you can try sending it back and saying it was messed up out the box and request a new one. And make sure not to update that one if you do get it.
Just did exactly that - then I saw your response - imagine my surprise! Thanks.
Told them it's broken I can't root it. They will send me a replacement. Hopefully it will not come with 4.4.4 pre-installed.
You told your carrier the phones broke because you can't root it? ??
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Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
hirak99 said:
Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
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I love it!!!
Get a warranty replacement before verizon gets tnem all updated
hirak99 said:
Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
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Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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donc113 said:
Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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lmaoo!
donc113 said:
Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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I told him what's the issue. He said he understands and took the phone inside, and confirmed that he couldn't solve it, then ordered a replacement. The store guys are good - you just need to ask nicely and explain what is the problem and why it is important.

[Q] Any hope for rooting N900V lollipop?

Is there any new hopes for rooting updated N900V (lollipop)?
The lollipop update just drains my battery. I miss my old rooted 4.4.2.
Is there a way to rollback and root?
Unrooted SM-N900v 5.0 for international use
centaurios1 said:
Is there any new hopes for rooting updated N900V (lollipop)?
The lollipop update just drains my battery. I miss my old rooted 4.4.2.
I am also looking to root my sm-n900v on 5.0 lollipop because I cannot stand the Verizon nonsense clogging up my device. Also, I leave for Europe on the 9th and was hoping to use local sims instead of Verizon international. I was under the impression Note 3 was unlocked for this kind of use, but when trying to use a local sim in Mexico, I was told the phone was locked. Is a rooted phone necessary to switch out and use an international SIM? If so I must scramble to figure out another option as I was hoping to root my device, not understanding this was not possible. Thank you in advance for any assistance.
-Erin
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centaurios1 said:
Is there any new hopes for rooting updated N900V (lollipop)?
The lollipop update just drains my battery. I miss my old rooted 4.4.2.
Is there a way to rollback and root?
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EEMecc said:
centaurios1 said:
Is there any new hopes for rooting updated N900V (lollipop)?
The lollipop update just drains my battery. I miss my old rooted 4.4.2.
I am also looking to root my sm-n900v on 5.0 lollipop because I cannot stand the Verizon nonsense clogging up my device. Also, I leave for Europe on the 9th and was hoping to use local sims instead of Verizon international. I was under the impression Note 3 was unlocked for this kind of use, but when trying to use a local sim in Mexico, I was told the phone was locked. Is a rooted phone necessary to switch out and use an international SIM? If so I must scramble to figure out another option as I was hoping to root my device, not understanding this was not possible. Thank you in advance for any assistance.
-Erin
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I don't have any experience with this program, and I haven't done much searching on these forums, but maybe have a look at this?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/device/verizon-samsung-galaxy-note-3-lollipop/
Use at your own risk I guess. Let us know if it works if you do try.
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Tried it, doesn't work
I also tried and no success by one click root..
I dont know how they have put that post on their site if it is not working at all..they mentioned it clearly for note3 sm-n900v lollipop.
It is ridiculous to do so..disappointed
lovekeshramawat said:
I also tried and no success by one click root..
I dont know how they have put that post on their site if it is not working at all..they mentioned it clearly for note3 sm-n900v lollipop.
It is ridiculous to do so..disappointed
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I agree. Leading us on but no root.
I'm waiting too
So there is no possible way to root a lollipop Verizon Note 3? That is a bit crazy but the only reason I wanted to root was to remove the pre-installed apps. Please update if anyone has figured out some way. I wish these phones didn't come with all this bloatware. The Samsung apps are fine but Verizon are the ones I'd like to get rid of or at least some of them. Thanks!!
pitbullmomma said:
So there is no possible way to root a lollipop Verizon Note 3? That is a bit crazy but the only reason I wanted to root was to remove the pre-installed apps. Please update if anyone has figured out some way. I wish these phones didn't come with all this bloatware. The Samsung apps are fine but Verizon are the ones I'd like to get rid of or at least some of them. Thanks!!
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I hear ya!! You can use this debloater to clean up what don't want/need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294 . Helped clean up some of it w/o root.
darksidesh007 said:
I hear ya!! You can use this debloater to clean up what don't want/need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294 . Helped clean up some of it w/o root.
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Dead link?
There is no root for the n900v 4.4.4 or later versions, and it doesn't seem anyone is working on one.
At least that was a direct answer! ugh just bummed out now because I was forced to come back to this phone after my other one got a tiny splatter of water on it and freaking DIED.
I really wish someone would
lilsaphyre said:
At least that was a direct answer! ugh just bummed out now because I was forced to come back to this phone after my other one got a tiny splatter of water on it and freaking DIED.
I really wish someone would
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Shame really, it s a great phone to be honest...
Is the bootloader locked as well? If not can you flash a custom recovery like TWRP?
Bharat Makhija said:
Is the bootloader locked as well? If not can you flash a custom recovery like TWRP?
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Yes, the bootloader is locked.
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Did Verizon finally win and block root?

I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope the us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
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kfres39389 said:
It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
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No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
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XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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ldeveraux said:
...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
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It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
kfres39389 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
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If you had not taken the OTA update or otherwise installed stock OE1 then you could have gotten a version of rooted OE1. It may be a while before people find anything to directly root OE1 or later, just because there are fewer people who need that, so not as much effort is being put into it.
Kaliaila said:
It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
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yeah, thanks, I already knew that. There's still most likely no way to root stock OE1 in the future. :good:
KennyG123 said:
No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
So there is no way to root of you did update on your s5 for verizon?
It will come....we just gotta wait it out, or do it ourselves.
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jtguldner said:
I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
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Got my new s5 2 weeks ago... it came with it already installed.

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