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To be honest, one of the major reasons I will be buying a tablet is for the games. For me it goes reading, games and movies... and not necessarily in that order. However, I have cruised the forums a bit and not found a truly definitive answer.
To put it frankly, I'm a RPG buff. From the SNES to the PS1, I love the genre. However, I am leery of the very high resolution of the N10 versus the look of the older games (SNES for example). I remember seeing a spreadsheet somewhere, where it listed Chrono Trigger as only appearing at 1/4th the size of the screen and crashing. This saddened me, and can potentially be a deal breaker in regards to me finalizing in buying this tablet.
Is there a way around what could be horrible looking old school games on such a high res display? And is there a way to get Chrono Trigger to work (its one of my favorites :< ).
Thank you for the help.
If a game only appears on 1/4 of the screen then that is the emulators fault, as is any crashing. Whatever emulator it was is most likely not designed to be run on a wide range of devices and resolutions and just needs to be updated for the Nexus 10's hardware.
I have been using MyBoy lately and while I havent tested explicitly tested Chrono Trigger, all games that normally work in the emulator work just the same on my phone, 7" tablet, or Nexus 10. The only difference is screen size.
I used to use anima online SNES. I am currently trying snes9xex. I set it to full screen instead of 16:9. Honestly doesn't look that bad. Here is secret of manager.
I will add I've beaten super metroid using the HDMI out of the tablet to my tc the entire play though. Also I beat super Mario RPG on the tablet strictly.
The games look great, full screen is a little stretched but its really not that bad. I personally was in the same situation as you when I wanted to buy it for those exact purposes. Once six axis updated to support android 4.2 I was loving every minute of it.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
I use SuperGSNES from the Google Play store and it works likes a champ!
Cervani said:
To be honest, one of the major reasons I will be buying a tablet is for the games. For me it goes reading, games and movies... and not necessarily in that order. However, I have cruised the forums a bit and not found a truly definitive answer.
To put it frankly, I'm a RPG buff. From the SNES to the PS1, I love the genre. However, I am leery of the very high resolution of the N10 versus the look of the older games (SNES for example). I remember seeing a spreadsheet somewhere, where it listed Chrono Trigger as only appearing at 1/4th the size of the screen and crashing. This saddened me, and can potentially be a deal breaker in regards to me finalizing in buying this tablet.
Is there a way around what could be horrible looking old school games on such a high res display? And is there a way to get Chrono Trigger to work (its one of my favorites :< ).
Thank you for the help.
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That's the Chrono Trigger port for Android that has problems on a lot of tablets. I played Chrono Trigger on a real emulator on the N10 and it worked just fine. Nearly done with the game and it looks absolutely great.
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That's the Chrono Trigger port for Android that has problems on a lot of tablets. I played Chrono Trigger on a real emulator on the N10 and it worked just fine. Nearly done with the game and it looks absolutely great.
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How to fix Chrono Trigger on the Nexus 10:
Turn on game. Press home button. On home screen rotate 180 degrees to the other landscape side.
Then turn off auto-rotate. Force close the game through the task manager and turn the game on again.
Thanks guys . You helped me solidify my choice in purchasing this tablet, along with all the video reviews and posts I've watched on here. Hopefully you'll see me on it soon!
First of all, Very and Leap- you two rock something fierce!
I did a review before of the HD+ with 2.1. I gave it a good review, but three things slowly eroded my opinion after time and I returned it.
1- Intermittent stutter that seemed to correlate with on the fly data loads and library sync. This stood out with games.
2- Games loading slow and some REAL sloooooow
3- Accumulative lag. Over a few days, the device got real slow and cache cleaning and restarts were hit and miss to fix it.
Best Buy had it on sale for $20 less this time ($180), so based on folks opinion of CM 10.1, I thought I would test it out again- due to the price and sweet display.
Where 2.1 was a big improvement over 2.0, the improvement from 2.1 to CM 10.1 is fluken' huge!
1- The intermittent stutter is gone along with library sync is gone.
2- Games load a LOT faster. I would not have thought the stock rom would be what was slowing it down, but I tested fresh installs two times with the same sloooow results with 2.1.
3- So far, the accumulated lag has not showed up.
4- Overall device is faster
I also added the "full screen" app to get rid of the navigation bar when I want. More just to test it out, but nice to have an iPad like full display view
Jeepers, it is wild how it is so easy to flash the device with 10.1 and equally wild to have the results of 10.1 with this hardware for the price. Superb so far
Of course, with anything in life comes the negatives:
1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game Ditto for Shine Runner. Same company.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
4- Quake 3 keeps expecting to see "sdcard" rather than "sdcard0". Touch Quake 1, 2 and Quake Arena mods work fine though. These are examples of games that loaded SLOW with stock 2.1, but are near instant with CM 10.1.
5- The CM 10.1 launcher was jittery and slow. I tried to get used to it, but went back to Nova, which is smooth and fast.
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
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there's 3rd party zip you can flash that restores it somewhat..
I also plan to look into this eventually and use texera fat module from the stock rom.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game
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That seems to be their bug related to new sgx drivers. Same crash happens on Kindle fire, for example. Nothing I can presently do about it.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
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Not sore about not waking up - never saw that. But rare boot problems will be fixed in next release. (esp. those that produce garbage on screen).
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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Still no camera, so it cannot serve as full TP replacement
No problem on the games not working, since works on my Excite 7.7 and S3!
Exfat and NTFS would be nice, down the road!
Thanks!
I think B&N could have done much better with this hardware if they hired someone like verygreen in the first place...
I still don't think this is a very good gaming device, though, especially for 3D.
But the screen is amazing and got me really spoiled. Now I look at Nexus 7 and feel the display is too cheap and low in quality. Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
Someone was complaining the Nook being slow and laggy vs a $499 Galaxy Note 10.1 with 2GB ram, quad core and much lower resolution. That is just unfair. But I guess people are entitled to their opinions.
Honestly I would not have bought this without seeing the CM10 and CM10.1 ports in progress. B&N really owes verygreen a commission. I like this combo so much that I hardly touch my Nexus 7 now.
BTW, donation sent.
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Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
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While I somewhat agree here, in reality I distributed Touchpads to my relative and they use them for things like Skype.
Nook, having no camera, cannot replace them and would be useless for such purposes.
I agree that the Nook has deficiencies (proprietary ports are a downer). When it comes to cheap toys we pick our poison, eg Nexus w/ no SD slot. If I want a cam or HDMI, there are a flood of cheap 7" tabs that have both, but none of them has a really great 1080p screen in an IMO perfect size and weight for one-handed use. I don't see any tablet with comparable display quality under $400.
Display quality aside, as a reader my preference is for a 4:3 aspect, since I use the tab mostly in portrait mode. But outside of the iPads, most Android tabs hewed to 16:10, which makes the display smaller than their diagonal size would indicate. The HD+ is the only one to eschew the norm in going with 3:2. That's actually better than 4:3, because the present Android UI takes off a couple slices at top and bottom, so the remaining space comes out pretty close to 4:3.
Using the dpi calculator here,
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
The 9" HD+ screen has a portrait width of 4.99". The 8.9" KF HD's is 4.72", or 0.27" smaller and not just 0.1" shorter diagonal. For tablet display size, every fraction of an inch is a big deal when you're squeezing a whole web page into portrait.
Some other display portrait widths, which I view as the tablet's true size measurement:
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iPad Mini 4.71"
Nexus 7 3.71"
Galaxy Note 8 4.24"
Nexus 10 5.3"
iPad 5.82"
Oh yeah, e.mote: Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
True on the lack of camera, but I got it for books, comics (more than books) and games (mainly emulators). There are a few games that my Excite 7.7 plays smoother, but most play the same and game emulators like MAME and N64 are faster on the Nook HD+. Also, CM 10.1 closed the gap on the 3D games that are smoother on the Excite 7.7. GTA is a good example. It plays smooth now, where with 2.1, it did not. Asphalt 7 though is an example that plays smoother on the Excite. Asphalt 7 though is now very playable on the Nook HD+. The TF700 also struggles with some 3D games, BTW.
For game emulators. this thing rocks. $180 for a great display and plays emulators better than any other Android I have used- including the S4 and its quad Qualcomm. Bluetooth game pads work fine and no response lag noted so far and fits the iCade
Sad that we get the stock firmware we get when folks here do a better job for user experience. I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
>Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
I actually wrote that for myself, since I have a stack of HD+'s here that I'm retrofitting to pass along to the family. Credit where it is due, it's all a rehash of what leapinlar has written, but just a bit more digestible. And of course to verygreen that made this all possible.
Glad to hear Nook is good for games. I'm not a gamer, but other peeps in the household would be appreciative. Any good guides for emulators you can point to? How about some strategy/tactical games? I liked Call of Cthulhu and Rebuild.
BTW, little known factoid: The Nook's serial # is printed on the inside of the SD slot's rubber flap. I found that out when returning a HD+ for uneven backlighting.
>I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
I view it as a good-thing-bad-thing situation. If B&N had made a great Android tab, it wouldn't be holding a firesale to clear out the Nooks, and we wouldn't be here yakking away. So yes, I'm kinda glad the HD's didn't sell well (until now).
Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Totally agree. What controller do you use for the emu, though?
I found it extremely difficult to trigger complex moves (in games that require those) using just touch control..... I'm sure it would not be an issue for games that do not require those.
I use a generic Android controller from Gamestop, two Nyko Android pads and iCade. All work fine.
I found another game that worked with 2.1 but not with CM. NBA 2013. Another of my favorites. What are the odds of that? It loads to the point of showing the team logos at start up and then crashes.
Also, most games like NFSMW that took a long time to load up with 2 .1 now load fast like other tablets. The only exception found so far is Asphalt 7. It still loads crazy slow. About two minutes or more per track. Should take about ten seconds. The London level just took over two minutes. Almost three.
The game plays good though. Much smoother (no stutter) than 2.1, but that is the case for all games so far. Odd how Asphalt 7 seems the only slow load hold out. I have tested a ton. A7 appears to be an anomaly.
CM 10.1 BTW also confirms to me the main stutter was not the gpu, but the stock rom. As per Anandtech, the 4470 is still a capable chipset.
I also compared A7 on the GS3. They appear to play very similarly as far as smoothness. GS3 might be a tad smoother, but does not stand out. The GS3 plays all of my games smooth, but the Nook smacks it down as far as MAME. 4470 appears to be a great emulator chipset.
I figured out why a few games do not work. Quake 3 need the files on the SD card and looks like NBA 2013 is trying to run the game from there too. It installs to internal, but installs a directory also in the SD with no files. I am going to move it to the SD and see what happens.
Update. Looks like ports like Quake 3 work fine, but commercial games do not work when moving the files.
I have uploaded a video of a new nintendo ds emulator that im beta testing running on the shield. Its in private beta so dont ask for a copy or how to join the beta test.
EDIT:
Google play link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KR42DFEhY
If your interested I have more videos in my channel and lots more on the way. Some specific to the shield and emulators, some specific to just DraStic.
Be sure to like and subscribe if you like what you see or want to see more.
Wow, I can't believe it runs so well. I have pretty much every game I could want for the DS but it would be fun to play on a nicer screen. Maybe one of those stylus that works on capacitive screens would be good to have for the touch heavy based games.
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Wow, I can't believe it runs so well. I have pretty much every game I could want for the DS but it would be fun to play on a nicer screen. Maybe one of those stylus that works on capacitive screens would be good to have for the touch heavy based games.
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I have a request in to do like a on screen mapping for the right analog stick for touchscreen input for games that use the touchscreen for an control method as demonstrated in the video. It is a problem with emulating that platform with a device that doesn't share the same form factor with it's combination of hardware controls and touchscreen. (OUYA, tablet + moga/PS3/xbox360, xperia play, etc etc) if all touchscreen device it's a natural switch.
I didn't do it in the video, but you can use the right stick and click (push down & hold) and it simulates the touchscreen input. But it's kind of a pain to constantly push in. If the option doesn't get implemented I think a 3rd party on screen mapper program could serve the same purpose.
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I have a request in to do like a on screen mapping for the right analog stick for touchscreen input for games that use the touchscreen for an control method as demonstrated in the video. It is a problem with emulating that platform with a device that doesn't share the same form factor with it's combination of hardware controls and touchscreen. (OUYA, tablet + moga/PS3/xbox360, xperia play, etc etc) if all touchscreen device it's a natural switch.
I didn't do it in the video, but you can use the right stick and click (push down & hold) and it simulates the touchscreen input. But it's kind of a pain to constantly push in. If the option doesn't get implemented I think a 3rd party on screen mapper program could serve the same purpose.
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If you can put the authors in touch with me, I can offer them some assistance. Emulators are a great win on this device, so I'd be glad to give them any assistance they need on how to get it working better.
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If you can put the authors in touch with me, I can offer them some assistance. Emulators are a great win on this device, so I'd be glad to give them any assistance they need on how to get it working better.
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the authors are Lordus and Exophase on the openpandora forum if you want to PM them
tell them "ANDROID" or "SNESFAN" sent ya, and you're a lead software engineer on the shield, I'll send the message their way as well but I don't think they frequent XDA
Wow that runs beautifully. Can't wait to see this on the Play Store!
Side by Side, damn thats an odd layout, but works great for the shield I guess.
Is this emulator specific to shield or could it also run on a tablet with a gamepad, and if so can it run portrait?
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Side by Side, damn thats an odd layout, but works great for the shield I guess.
Is this emulator specific to shield or could it also run on a tablet with a gamepad, and if so can it run portrait?
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there's other layouts and other devices demo'ed in one of the other videos in my channel. Side by side or big/little and one screen w/ switch button that makes the most sense layout wise for a landscape only device. But for purposes of this video I just everything default in this one.
There is a top/bottom landscape I'm going to show off in a future video that might be more interesting to some people but it leaves large boarders on the sides.
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there's other layouts and other devices demo'ed in one of the other videos in my channel. Side by side or big/little and one screen w/ switch button that makes the most sense layout wise for a landscape only device. But for purposes of this video I just everything default in this one.
There is a top/bottom landscape I'm going to show off in a future video that might be more interesting to some people but it leaves large boarders on the sides.
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Top/Bottom I was more interested in for a tablet etc which I could flip portrait.
This looks like a promising emulator. None of the other DS emulators I have tried in the past have performed well on android at all, this looks to be the first playable one.
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Top/Bottom I was more interested in for a tablet etc which I could flip portrait.
This looks like a promising emulator. None of the other DS emulators I have tried in the past have performed well on android at all, this looks to be the first playable one.
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for tablets/phones and stuff there is top/bottom portrait
it runs well on modestly spec'd hardware. The lowest I can suggest is an mono-core cortex a8 @ 1Ghz (xperia play) more cores and next generation chip-sets will perform better according to raw processing power. It works very playable on a dual core a8 @ 1.2Ghz (HTC EVO 3D)
the minimum technical requirements are
ARMv7 (cortex a8, a9, a15 or above)
NEON SIMD extension (tegra 2 specifically is out tegra 3/4 is fine)
Android Gingerbread 2.3.3+ (some extra features will be enabled with a higher version of android)
Cool. I will be more likely to play this on my S4, but do plan on getting the Shield. Was going to get the Ouya, but the low storage, proprietary market and clunky UI have turned my interest to zero. This has much better specs, portable and has good enough sound where a 24" or 27" pc display without speakers could be used. Low cost arcade system
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Cool. I will be more likely to play this on my S4, but do plan on getting the Shield. Was going to get the Ouya, but the low storage, proprietary market and clunky UI have turned my interest to zero. This has much better specs, portable and has good enough sound where a 24" or 27" pc display without speakers could be used. Low cost arcade system
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Not to mention that any game that runs on the ouya could be ported to run on the shield. Only thing missing would be touchpad support, which the OUYA implements as a HID mouse so a USB mouse may actually fulfil that role. Failing that, touch screen.
There were efforst to get the OUYA framework on other devices to natively attempt to run OUYA titles, I don't know how thats gone, but the shield would be an awesome candidate for that.
come and get it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
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come and get it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
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I've been playing CV Aria or Sorrow and so far it's the best nds emu on android. I do get some minor bugs (game will close out back to the emulator menu) but all in all, an excellent emulator.
I've tested it on three games so far and it's by and far the best DS emulator out there. It's so smooth, and it allows for native gamepad mapping, which the others are lacking.
The only problem I'm having is touch input for the bottom screen. How do I enable it?
Also, I'm on a Nexus 10, but since this thread was started by a beta tester, I figured I'd ask here.
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I've tested it on three games so far and it's by and far the best DS emulator out there. It's so smooth, and it allows for native gamepad mapping, which the others are lacking.
The only problem I'm having is touch input for the bottom screen. How do I enable it?
Also, I'm on a Nexus 10, but since this thread was started by a beta tester, I figured I'd ask here.
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In the middle of a game, tap the menu on-screen button which will have a stylus button, tap that and it will allow touch input.
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This emulator is fantastic. Honestly being able to sync your savestates with Google Drive made me wonder "Why hasn't anyone done this before?"
This app rocks! Well spent money for this.
What game is shown in the screen shot on the play store where there is a guy with a sword in a dungeon and a blob looking thing? I have a DS and every game I could want at least I thought I did, but I don't recognize that game...
This is awesome. Been messing with this emulator since it released on the Play Store. I'm amazed at how well it runs. Haven't run into a single issue with it.
This emulator rocks. I have been playing everything I have and not a problem yet. I really like the way I can play Gta Chinatown on my shield and use Google drive to sync my progress so I can pick up on my phone. (Note 2 runs perfect btw)
I got mine from Best Buy last week. It has 4.2 out of box and I plan on sticking with that due to emulators playing slower on 4.4 and 3rd party external writing killed. I am really liking the device more than expected. Here are IMO key points (good & bad).
+ Battery life and standby time are great
+ Display is very good for 720p
+ Controller works great
+ The key reason I like this design over using an external gamepad is the integration with apps. Huge plus.
+ All emulators tested work superbly: NES, GBC, GBA, PCE, Genesis, SNES, Neo Pocket, Amiga, C64, MAME, PSX, N64, DC, Wonderswan, Master System, Gamegear and DS. Playing Dead or Alive 2 with Reicast is super serious superb.
+ DoomGles is great and so are the Quake games. Those games and Android games are much better with the Shield controller.
+ I find myself going back to games I stopped playing due to the controls. Dual sticks for shooters is pure good.
+ Speakers are as everybody says. Very good.
- Wifi is robust, but sometimes stops working even though says still connected. I have a LOT of devices and this is the only one that has the issue.
- The 5" display is too small for MAME games that are designed for long portrait displays like most shootemups, Digdug, etc. At least with a tablet of phone you can rotate the display and not have black bars taking up a lot space.
- Not a Shield negative, but Google and their blatant attempt to passively aggressively kill off external storage. Even if emulator issues are fixed in the next Nvidia update, I will not bother due to this. I would rather not root, since means starting all over again and brick concerns. I vested some fairly serious time in setting everything up.
- I find games like Modern Combat and NOVA 3 too small on the display, so would expect PC games to be even more tiny. The Shield 2 could fit a 5.8" display and that would help. At least for the Android games. MC 4 and NOVA 3 both play great though, and ditto for Asphalt 8.
As far as a Shield 2:
1. At least a 5.5" display, but can stay at 720p. Better for game performance and battery.
2. Have a plugged in and battery mode option. Full tilt with fan when plugged into power and allow customizing if not.
3. 32GB flash. Goople's lame card killing effort compels this for a gaming device. Really.
4. K1, of course.
That is pretty much it. I would buy this again if just added the four things noted above. Shield would be a 10 if had a bigger display. 9/10 as is
They didnt kill writing to the sdcard completely. Apps can only write to their respective folders which no big deal how many games need to access a different games folder. You can still move apps to sd and you can still write anything you want to the sd card using a root explorer. As for The emulator slow downs they are so minor you cant really notice them. I had to update to 72 because it supports laptop streaming.
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They didnt kill writing to the sdcard completely. Apps can only write to their respective folders which no big deal how many games need to access a different games folder. You can still move apps to sd and you can still write anything you want to the sd card using a root explorer. As for The emulator slow downs they are so minor you cant really notice them. I had to update to 72 because it supports laptop streaming.
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The big issue is people are reporting zipped roms have issues as well as saves. A nice thing about the emulators is a resume mode that is relative to the rom folder. Since I have a bunch of roms, not practical to use internal for that. For people that say "Just leave all roms unzipped", that results in on average at least three times more storage space being needed. Even worse for PSX games, since in compressed PBP mode, the games average anywhere from 15MB to 600MB. In correct PSX image mode, a 15MB game is 700MB. Big difference.
Anyway, not a hit on Nvidia, but is with Android. The emulator issue is actually pretty bad to me, since results in game going from smooth to sporadic stutters with 4.4, depending in part on control pad use. Smooth to not smooth is not a good option, IMO. Kind of like using an old Tegra 2 again for emulators. Tegra 2 had some throttle issues, but not due to the OS. Tegra 3 (not Tegra 2) with my Excite 7.7 is smoother with most emulators than Shield with 4.4.
Added: I also have a S4 and Note 2014 and am leaving those on 4.2 as well. Not sure if the emulator issue is Shield specific, but do know the card write issue for all devices. 4.2 does what I need, so no desire to update and then have to go through the trouble and brick potential with rooting. Yes, this is an ironic perspective for an XDA forum.
Hmm thats odd i havent had any troubles with zipped roms on any emulation app. And i have a few. As for the sony pbps i hear you there. Its ridiculous how much filler are in those, i use to rip psp and psx games.
The shield is nearly unbrickable its almost ridiculous how well they did with that. No need for root to go back and forth from system firmwares, but you do have to have an unlocked bootloader which voids warranty although i had to return a rooted unlocked shield and they didnt give me any guff. Not trying to say upgrade to KK but i will say its not as bad as you think.
N64 emulation is superb? Mupen has a lot of N64 games which it cant handle. Granted I know this is an emulator issue, and not an issue with shield capability, but its still disappointing that android emulation hasn't advanced further.
I've read reps from Nvidia stating how surprised they were with emulation being such a popular feature with the Shield. Would it be illegal for Nvidia to work and release emulators, designed exclusively for the Shield, which emulate N64 and Dreamcast games? Considering Reicast and Mupen are allowed on the google play store I don't see why Nvidia can't release their own emulators.
I always thought the roms unzipped into RAM and there was no writing to the card for this process, but reports are some emulators have issues (saves being a key). MAME writes into it's parent directory and no special path can be created for the Android version. Given the 10GB size of my MAME roms, internal storage is not an option and losing settings for roms would mean redoing the settings every time the game is played. No thanks :silly:
As far as N64, I am referring to the control use with games. The PC version is about the same as far as what works, but using certain video plug-ins with Mupen makes a huge difference it what is playable. Mupen plays more games than N64oid as a result.
Going back to zipped file sizes, same thing for PSP, but not as big a ratio. ISO files on average are 50% bigger than compressed CSO files.
For me shield = massive paper weight
None of the games I would use it for on PC or android support it.
I thought it would be hilarious to play racing or shooter games on this thing, but it turns out its not that bad lol Sure, at first it was a little awkward holding a small TV in my hands, but man it's not even that bad! You get used to it pretty quick and my wrists don't get that tired or anything. You really get some great real estate to game with lol
After burning through 4 other tablets trying to find something to game with (smaller ones 8 - 9.7 inch) I had no choice but to give this a try as nothing else was doing the job. The Tab s2 has a weak processor for serious gaming so bad fps, the Tab s3 is destroyed by Samsung software issues and you can't game with it at all, the Nexus 9 while great is definitely showing it's age and starts to throttle pretty quick, and the shield has a broken touchscreen (can't do precise movements, only big ones). So I had nothing left that had any sort of performance and literally was forced into the Pixel C.
Anyway do you guys all use this thing for serious work type stuff or are any of you holding this beast out in front of you to place racing games with lol I can't be the only one
I don't use mine for games very often because I don't play many in the first place. But I think it should do well enough at it.
NFS is fun screen casting to my tv and home theater system with no lag. Since the game controls are simple, you stop looking at the tablet and just watch the big screen and the Pixel C intuitively becomes the controller. The sound is also good. I can feel the crashes from the subwoofer, and I crash a lot.
I mostly play retro games on mine with this thing: http://www.8bitdo.com/n30pro-f30pro/
My little bro and I were having a blast playing Donkey Kong Country last night
For me, this is my tablet for just about everything. I have an old iPad Mini Gen 2 that I use for YouTube watching (at 480p because that's all it can handle). I bought a (overpriced) leather folio from an off-brand seller with their own website which has an included bluetooth keyboard (I'm using it to type this right now). The keyboard works great (BT 4.0 with 30 day battery life mixed usage), then I grab an old USB trackball, plug it into my USB C Hub (Two USB 3.1, Realtek Ethernet 1 GBps, and USB C Power Delievery Port- up to 60(?) watts but I just use my Pixel XL 18w charger). I mainly play racing games on it, Asphalt 8, need for speed and use my XBOX 360 controller in a OTG Hub and I'm set. I set the display size to smallest to make the most of the display along with font size. I'm swapping out the stock oreo for Lineage 14.1 (soon 15.1) because one week ago, (as of January 2018), Google killed off the Pixel C to make way for the pixelbook. For major things, I'll plug in a full size keyboard instead of my bluetooth one because It is a little bit cramped but great for small things.
Two months ago, I half bricked it because of my inability to 1) read disclaimers and 2) read known issues. That happened when I was installing SuperSU (when it didn't support ChromeOS boot images) and have now left my bootloader in a non-lockable state so (no matter how much flashing I do) it reports to fastboot that it isn't locked nor unlocked which is a pain because I have to wait 30 seconds each time I want to boot this (or recover from the random reboots).
Overall, 4 out of 5
Links to the acessories I use (lol spelling)
Keyboard Case- https://www.ebay.com/itm/Removable-...599418?hash=item2cc30757fa:g:AK0AAOSwh-1W1lKU
USB C Hub with Power Delievery- (can't find but as long it has a realtek ethernet chip and USB C PD, it'll work fine)
Everyday
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seh6183 said:
I thought it would be hilarious to play racing or shooter games on this thing, but it turns out its not that bad lol Sure, at first it was a little awkward holding a small TV in my hands, but man it's not even that bad! You get used to it pretty quick and my wrists don't get that tired or anything. You really get some great real estate to game with lol
After burning through 4 other tablets trying to find something to game with (smaller ones 8 - 9.7 inch) I had no choice but to give this a try as nothing else was doing the job. The Tab s2 has a weak processor for serious gaming so bad fps, the Tab s3 is destroyed by Samsung software issues and you can't game with it at all, the Nexus 9 while great is definitely showing it's age and starts to throttle pretty quick, and the shield has a broken touchscreen (can't do precise movements, only big ones). So I had nothing left that had any sort of performance and literally was forced into the Pixel C.
Anyway do you guys all use this thing for serious work type stuff or are any of you holding this beast out in front of you to place racing games with lol I can't be the only one
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I play all games with great fps and video quality,