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Well as I found out when my SD card died it also took out my GPS, nothing will make it work again. So I put the phone back to stock, got the ED03 Froyo OTA update and took it into my verizon store, long story short I'm getting another phone tomorrow. I've been rocking on the stock froyo for a few days now and its kinda wierd since I've basically been rooted from day one. For one battery life is horrible with anything turned on, however with everything toggled off my battery life is alot better than any custom ROM or undervolted kernel. I didnt expect that. Phone isnt as laggy and i expected either. Whats really bizarre is when your stock the Market actually WORKS! No matter what I flashed my Market was always laggy, sometimes never worked at all. I usually have to start a download two or three times. This was for any ROM or kernel I tried, I assumed it was normal. Well on stock Froyo, the Market loads immediately, when I click to dowload it downloads and installs immediately. WOW! Now when I get my new phone I'm gona root it , is there anyway to get this good Market performance?

I don't have any market issues on comrom 1.3

My phone performs much better on stock ED03 than Community ROM v1.3. Is there a lot more broken with that ROM than the kernel & status bar?

For the past few days I've also been running stock ED03 with the basic bloat removed and minimal apps installed. Battery life is a bit better, but it's still not great. The phone is typically dead (or screaming for a charger) by the end of the day with normal use.
Everything seems to work with the exception of bluetooth calling (after I hang up) in my car. At first I thought it was those custom kernels causing the issue, but even the stock kernel/ROM does it.
After I hang up a call via bluetooth in my car, the phone crashes and bluetooth crashes which makes the phone hang for a minute or two. I can turn bluetooth off then on to get it to re-connect to the car, but it'll just crash again after the next call is done. Through some reading, I found that Samsung is real shady with their implementation of bluetooth. I can believe it based on our GPS issues, jacked up RIL code, weak wi-fi signal and a lower overall cell signal than other phones.
It's **** like this that keeps me from wanting the SGS II.

I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go

AuroEdge said:
I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go
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I don't know I just played with a htc thunderbolt yesterday at a verizon store and that thing is bad ass even without 4g. If us cellular got that phone id be all over it. But from what I hear we getting the moto atrix which I'm not a huge fan of...now that moto xoom tablet on the other hand...if verizon wasn't so damn expensive.... My $.02 haha
As for the stock experience I just flashed back from cm7 to stock and all I got was pissed off haha
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ive had issues with the market in custom roms too. sometimes when i download an app instead of installing it just disappears, and i have to redownload it sometimes more than once to get it to install. but that wont make me go back to stock. custom roms/kernels are waaay better than stock and theres bound to be some issues here and there

AuroEdge said:
I'm out of the loop but it seems as it stands LG is the way to go
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I had the LG G2x for a little over a week and it wasn't too bad. There were very minor annoying things (which I cannot remember) that reminded me of Samsung, but it wasn't as bad. It was supposed to be stock Android, but a developer soon discovered that it wasn't. It was just themed to appear stock, so I don't think the G2x currently performs as good as say a Cyanogen ROM.
Also, that phone was plagued with that reboot bug. Outside of the reboot bug and the LCD screen, it's not a bad phone. I couldn't keep it because A) the software bugs reminded me of why I don't want another Samsung. I'm not going to buy a phone and put up with that BS again - although, that phone should get heavy dev support soon; B) Maybe it was the 4" screen or the bottom heavy bezel or the bleeding LCD screen, but I felt the phone was too much of a lateral step rather than a step up from the SGS series of phones. I needed more to keep myself satisfied.
LG has the potential to do good, but so far... they're on shaky ground to me. Just like Samsung. They need to fix the reboot issues and stop copying Samsung.

As it stands I will stick it out with my Fascinate till I see a Verizon phone I really like. Which sucks because I don't see any on the horizon that look promising except for maybe the Motorola Targa. When it comes to community efforts there are two reasons I look to them from time to time -- stability and believe it or not BLN

Beware of the LG Revolution when it drops. It's not going to be a "With Google" device, meaning Verizon is probably going to beat and rape it until it's a mere shadow of it's original self.

Running stock ED03, rooted, modified to support cwr, de-binged, de-bloated, and deodexed. I did this all myself, a lot of reading of how to's. Next up I found something on converting rfs to ext4 I hope it easy enough and works well. So far its great, with the prospect of awesome, if file extention Change is doable and improves phone as much as I read about.
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[Q] Nexus 4 Random Power Off

As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
Thanks

Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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BigDig said:
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.

sennister said:
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.

amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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I don't want to root and have my mom run a modified ROM. They live about a half hour from me so I haven't tried a wipe of the phone yet and because of the distance I don't want to deal with the issues that sometimes come up when you go with modified ROMs when I am not there. She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things. I have to get some time to run over there and take a look at it. Maybe later next week.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I think if a wipe doesn't help I will talk to Google. A search really didn't show much other than some people that were seeing a random reboot issue. I have seen apps doing that.
I have been through their warranty replacement process and it is a bit of a PITA. I am on my 3rd Nexus 7 due to hardware issues with the first 2. My N4 and my fathers have been rock solid.
While I have run custom ROMs in the past, I usually run stock until I find a need that requires me to root. Eventually I will probably root and go with a custom ROM on my N4 but

sennister said:
She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:

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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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amartolos said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.

Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today

The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?

Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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Sprint HTC Bolt Overheating and Slow internet

Hi to all. I got the Bolt during the 50% off deal online with Sprint. I jumped from the HTC One M9. I really love the Bolt, but I got 2 concerns at the moment. First, I think the phone is overheating (more that it should considering the SD810 i think). It gets too hot to the touch on the back during regular use (FB, instragram, ocassional taking of pictures, web browsing and maybe playing a game). with temps up to 109 °F and 110 °F. Sometimes it gets hot playing music using the included USB type C headphones. Secondly, I can't get LTE internet speeds faster than 1 - 2 MBPs for download while getting upload speeds of 2-3 MBPs. I tried PRL Updates, Profile Updates in different zones and soft resets of the phone with no luck. I tried also looking for a solution online and even at sprint.com but I couldn't find any claims of the same issues I'm having. Maybe those temps are normal? But i'm pretty sure the internet should run faster. Any ideas that could help? Wanted to try here before taking it to repairs for diagnostics, because I hate the process of setting up the phone from factory settings, specially without root and titanium backup in case the unit is deffective.
Thanks in advance

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Hi to all. I got the Bolt during the 50% off deal online with Sprint. I jumped from the HTC One M9. I really love the Bolt, but I got 2 concerns at the moment. First, I think the phone is overheating (more that it should considering the SD810 i think). It gets too hot to the touch on the back during regular use (FB, instragram, ocassional taking of pictures, web browsing and maybe playing a game). with temps up to 109 °F and 110 °F. Sometimes it gets hot playing music using the included USB type C headphones. Secondly, I can't get LTE internet speeds faster than 1 - 2 MBPs for download while getting upload speeds of 2-3 MBPs. I tried PRL Updates, Profile Updates in different zones and soft resets of the phone with no luck. I tried also looking for a solution online and even at sprint.com but I couldn't find any claims of the same issues I'm having. Maybe those temps are normal? But i'm pretty sure the internet should run faster. Any ideas that could help? Wanted to try here before taking it to repairs for diagnostics, because I hate the process of setting up the phone from factory settings, specially without root and titanium backup in case the unit is deffective.
Thanks in advance
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I haven't seen any heat issues though the 810 is known for running hot. Could be something running in the background. This phone comes with so much effen bloat it's ridiculous! Rooting and/custom rom will help with that :good:
Have you checked what band your on? Speeds good here...
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Holly s. @OMJ. That LTE is fast lol. I'm in a limited area so I get 1-2mbps on LTE peak. 12mb non peak.
Got a few CA towers within 30min of me. 100mbps plus and it's super fast.

Thanks for the reply. Seriously considering rooting. Kinda rusty here, my last rooted phone was the M8. What band I should be in? I'm getting the information included in attachment.

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Holly s. @OMJ. That LTE is fast lol. I'm in a limited area so I get 1-2mbps on LTE peak. 12mb non peak.
Got a few CA towers within 30min of me. 100mbps plus and it's super fast.
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I'm pretty close to the tower, I've seen over 100 a few times
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Thanks for the reply. Seriously considering rooting. Kinda rusty here, my last rooted phone was the M8. What band I should be in? I'm getting the information included in attachment.
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Just depends on the tower, band 25 is their 1900 mhz band which is slower than band 41 which is 2500 mhz. Sounds like that tower is need of an upgrade...
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So there may be nothing wrong with my phone. Just that is loaded with a lot of bloatware and that the cell towers near me are old. Thanks. Think I'll try rooting and removing all non needed crap and hopefully that fixes the heating prob. :fingers-crossed:

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So there may be nothing wrong with my phone. Just that is loaded with a lot of bloatware and that the cell towers near me are old. Thanks. Think I'll try rooting and removing all non needed crap and hopefully that fixes the heating prob. :fingers-crossed:
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I'm at work now...on band 25, my speeds suck, 2.49 dn, 1.40 up, plus my signal is not too strong

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I'm at work now...on band 25, my speeds suck, 2.49 dn, 1.40 up, plus my signal is not too strong
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Here at work is the same. ? I will try every place I go until I find a place with band 41 (if it exists in PR). I'll not losing hope LOL

This is my first HTC so not sure if it's normal, but I have noticed it get extremely hot. I can't imagine heavy use and during the summer. I wonder if this is normal or they would eventually recall the product. Lol not trying to sound like a pansy, but it feels really uncomfortable on my hands and inside my pocket when it gets hot. I have noticed it cool down when i go under the developer option and max out the cpu. I may root and debloat to see if it helps. Also I've noticed my internet speed on wifi is laggy, however while on LTE it's much faster.

Slow htc bolt
OMJ said:
I haven't seen any heat issues though the 810 is known for running hot. Could be something running in the background. This phone comes with so much effen bloat it's ridiculous! Rooting and/custom rom will help with that :good:
Have you checked what band your on? Speeds good here...
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The HTC Bolt I find to be extremely slow and laggy the phone in my opinion is defective and should not be out on the market

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The HTC Bolt I find to be extremely slow and laggy the phone in my opinion is defective and should not be out on the market
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No problems here...
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In your opinion did I make a good choice going with htc bolt or should I had gone with the lg v20. I always been an android guy and i miss the Samsung notes. And I wanted to thank everyone on this site I learned everything about phones from here rooting and all. I would like to root this phone but been out of the rooting game a few months . last time I rooted I was using odin, will it still be like that any info would be appreciated. And I'm a new member to this site so if I'm posting this question in wrong place plz advise me I do not wish to upset anyone because of my ignorance

Infectiousnwo said:
In your opinion did I make a good choice going with htc bolt or should I had gone with the lg v20. I always been an android guy and i miss the Samsung notes. And I wanted to thank everyone on this site I learned everything about phones from here rooting and all. I would like to root this phone but been out of the rooting game a few months . last time I rooted I was using odin, will it still be like that any info would be appreciated. And I'm a new member to this site so if I'm posting this question in wrong place plz advise me I do not wish to upset anyone because of my ignorance
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I'm a huge HTC fanboy, I have never owned anything but HTC. I've never been immpressed by LG or Samsung. Rooting is easy on HTC I know much easier than Samsung.

Any updates on this? Mine overheats from time to time as well. Also locks up and lags. I disabled apps and am running only the essentials. I guess I'll see how that works.

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Any updates on this? Mine overheats from time to time as well. Also locks up and lags. I disabled apps and am running only the essentials. I guess I'll see how that works.
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Mine gets warm but my problem is the lagging. It specifically shows up when you pan the camera around, it takes seconds for the phone to catch up to the new view plus the camera seems to be constantly trying to focus. On phone videos and crackle are very choppy - unwatchable. phone still seems to work ok, internet speeds are good, apps run and udpate.
Very frustrating as i have always liked the HTC product.

I followed the BadBoyz ROM for some time and at last this sunday decided to jump in the wagon hehehe. Took me a while to decide to finally install a custom ROM but here I am. Everything now seems so smooth and without any lag. The phone doesn't heat up as it used to when I posted this thread looking for recommendations. The internet speeds the blame is on Sprint here in PR. I flashed the MAGISK Root version of the Bad Boyz 2.0 ROM clean and no complains at the moment. Still need to test it some more, but I doubt performance will change. I'm an HTC fanboy myself and always installed custom ROMs on all my HTCs and I have to say that this is in my opinion the most stable I tried. I don't know whay I waited so long to flash a custom ROM; maybe I'm getting old hehe

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I followed the BadBoyz ROM for some time and at last this sunday decided to jump in the wagon hehehe. Took me a while to decide to finally install a custom ROM but here I am. Everything now seems so smooth and without any lag. The phone doesn't heat up as it used to when I posted this thread looking for recommendations. The internet speeds the blame is on Sprint here in PR. I flashed the MAGISK Root version of the Bad Boyz 2.0 ROM clean and no complains at the moment. Still need to test it some more, but I doubt performance will change. I'm an HTC fanboy myself and always installed custom ROMs on all my HTCs and I have to say that this is in my opinion the most stable I tried. I don't know whay I waited so long to flash a custom ROM; maybe I'm getting old hehe
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I too tried the Bad boyz ROM but with no luck. I factory reset my phone many times and tried all stock firmware from .11, .15, .22 and the newest as well. The lag won't go away. Cannot take videos at all because the camera wont keep up. Cannot play video, too choppy and keyboard is slow for texts, etc. I went back to s-on and locked with all factory stock. I bought the protection plan and am going to send the phone in for repair. I hope I just got a lemon. It was fine for 2 months before getting progressively worse.

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I too tried the Bad boyz ROM but with no luck. I factory reset my phone many times and tried all stock firmware from .11, .15, .22 and the newest as well. The lag won't go away. Cannot take videos at all because the camera wont keep up. Cannot play video, too choppy and keyboard is slow for texts, etc. I went back to s-on and locked with all factory stock. I bought the protection plan and am going to send the phone in for repair. I hope I just got a lemon. It was fine for 2 months before getting progressively worse.
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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it was just a defective unit. Still very pleased at the moment with the 2.0 ROM. Overall the phone feels more cold during regular usage (haven't done any intense gaming yet). For keyboard I didn't like the TouchPal as I found it kinda buggy so I switched to SwiftKey. Also the video runs fine here. I had for some years problems with Whatsapp media lagging and even FC a lot when opening pics and videos thinking that it was an Android related problem, but apparently it turned out to be a problem on my part. I always backed up every chat and restored with every Android new phone so even when emptied media folders the problem continued. Installed without restoring chats and the problem apparently is solved. Still need to keep testing to see if any other issue arises but at the moment still works fine. Will keep testing the ROM

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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it was just a defective unit. Still very pleased at the moment with the 2.0 ROM. Overall the phone feels more cold during regular usage (haven't done any intense gaming yet). For keyboard I didn't like the TouchPal as I found it kinda buggy so I switched to SwiftKey. Also the video runs fine here. I had for some years problems with Whatsapp media lagging and even FC a lot when opening pics and videos thinking that it was an Android related problem, but apparently it turned out to be a problem on my part. I always backed up every chat and restored with every Android new phone so even when emptied media folders the problem continued. Installed without restoring chats and the problem apparently is solved. Still need to keep testing to see if any other issue arises but at the moment still works fine. Will keep testing the ROM
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That is interesting. I am guilty of transferring a lot of messages. But in the end I would do a factory reset, no sd card and basic setup with no message restoration. I could tell right away if I had the same problem by opening up the camera and moving the phone around. The picture would not keep up with the phone moving. it would take a second or 2 for the phone to react to the new picture i was pointing at. Normally as you pan the camera around the picture changes with the movement. Hope yours continues to perform well

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That is interesting. I am guilty of transferring a lot of messages. But in the end I would do a factory reset, no sd card and basic setup with no message restoration. I could tell right away if I had the same problem by opening up the camera and moving the phone around. The picture would not keep up with the phone moving. it would take a second or 2 for the phone to react to the new picture i was pointing at. Normally as you pan the camera around the picture changes with the movement. Hope yours continues to perform well
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mine had the same problem...out of the blue it started to get real laggy...it would even lag in download mode...even after flashing RUU & not restoring anything...I could tell going through setup it was still laggy...it was unbearable...I sent it to HTC for repair, it's been good ever since

IS it worth Rooting ?

I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?

Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.

I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.

For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Yushawan said:
Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why

I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.

It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?

no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore

I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.

It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.

my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.

If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.

Over heating and lag (thermal throttle?) multiple times a day.

I would like to know if anyone else is having the problems I am having, and possible a solution.
Multiple times a day and seemingly random times, the phone heats up temendesly and starts lagging really badly, sometimes so bad I can't even unlock it.
I can't figure out if something is causing it because alot of the time it starts happening while its in my pocket, locked. Alot of the time when it does heat up it just stays hot, so I have to turn it off and leave it for 5-10 minutes to allow it to cool down. Once it has cooled down and I switch it back on, it seems to stay cool (Untill it has another episode and overheats again).
But then other times, I can be watching videos or playing games and it is very responsive and doesn't heat up more than it should, how ever this is rare.
I searched the forums but only found one related post. They had their phone replaced once, and so have I for other reasons. Could I have a defective unit?
Are there any apps I can use to monitor resource usage to maybe see if its a rougue app or system process?
I will also mention that I am using the Hyperion extended battery for the phone, but im not sure if it plays a roll in the issue, as the battery itself does not seem to get hot, only the CPU (I can feel it very hot where the figureprint scanner is)
I have not tested the phone with the stock battery, how ever I may try this.
Thanks,

Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down. Also kernel auditor (needs root) shows cpu/gpu/battery temps right on the "overall" section.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?

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Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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I might try stock battery tomorrow if I can find where I put it.
Not rooted currently.
Also not sure how to boot to safe mode?
Also just to clarify, it overheats all the time, not just when locked. I will try a temp monitoring app to see what its at when its overheating

Safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, press and hold Power off.
When prompted to restart in Safe Mode, tap OK.
After your device restarts, it displays Safe mode at the bottom of the screen.
Uninstall apps that are causing a problem.
Turn off safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, tap Power off and restart.
The device will restart and Safe mode overlay will no longer show on the screen.

So I haven't tried stock battery or safe mode, but I did a reset on the phone. The phone has been running great. After about 2 weeks now its starting to slow again, heat up a lot more. I am really puzzled to why this is happening. I'm not sure if it is a app I have installed. Are there any apps that monitor usage on the phone? Or any other ideas why I keep experiencing these problems.

Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.

To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.

Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two [emoji111]️ cents.
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Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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tylerw1369 said:
Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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I've tried all custom kernels for h918 and its all the same. Maybe it works for you but didn't work for me

Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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But if we are honest here, the phone should not be slowing down after a few weeks usage. It should stay running almost as good as a fresh phone/reset. My old GN3 slowed down after all my apps, sure, but not like this phone does.
dleclair said:
Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
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Maybe i'm confused by what you mean, but doesn't that mean that should only affect me if I am Rooted? Although I am thinking of rooting and trying different Kernels if it helps.

These are the types of issues I am getting. I know someone else through my job who has the same phone but does not have these issues. Is it faulty? Would a kernel fix it and are there any for my model ? (H990DS) I can't seem to find any for this phone. Send help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9rDd_UY6w

I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app

It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file

dimm0k said:
I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
maxi65 said:
It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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well it's going to take time to figure out something like this out. what I would do is root and then use something like SystemPanel 2 https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systempanel2-boost-clean-t3552690 and see the live view of what's currently using up CPU. what's good about this app is that it gives you an overview of usage over 3, 8, 24 hours so you can see what was using the most CPU during a certain range of time. but it would be best to see if you can have this app running for a bit and check it right when the lag is occurring.

Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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Due to file extension error, i can't post the file here but here is the link Of the thread but you gonna need to root the device
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705[/url]

Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.

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Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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With Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.

iDefalt said:
Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.

Still_living714 said:
Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Maybe on your next contract renewal look at going a SIM-only plan. Changes your world.