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why my Note only has 800mb total RAM? Shouldn't it be 1024mb/1gb? Is this the same for everyone?
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knight2k1 said:
why my Note only has 800mb total RAM? Shouldn't it be 1024mb/1gb? Is this the same for everyone?
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They round it up.
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It is advertise as having 1024MB RAM. I feel that is false advertising when it really came with only 800MB. Even rounded up, that is a big different.

I think its the "drivers" that take up the missing 200mb! Hardcore Rom cookers can slim down the drivers giving a few extra MBs! Not any here Yet!

It has 1024mb, but because the kernel and os need to use some, not all of it is available for your apps.

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It has 1024mb, but because the kernel and os need to use some, not all of it is available for your apps.
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yea, that seems to be the likely explanation. and I'm running 2.3.5 currently, and usually its using 400 to 500 at any given time, with only the browser and maybe one app running. any suggestions as to what can be forced closed or disabled to increase RAM available?

You will need root to get rid of system apps and most pre-installed apps. You can use Titanium Backup to "freeze" any apps and widgets you don't use (also requires a rooted device). As for which apps to freeze, look at what's running on your device with an app manager like SystemPanel Lite, and decide what you don't need from that list.

LOL
Some memory is shared with GPU

mike2518 said:
yea, that seems to be the likely explanation. and I'm running 2.3.5 currently, and usually its using 400 to 500 at any given time, with only the browser and maybe one app running. any suggestions as to what can be forced closed or disabled to increase RAM available?
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Why? What's the point of having lots of RAM if you don't use it? Want to keep some for a rainy day?
Seriously, don't think about it. It will drive you crazy. And do not start using a task manager. I will smack you hard.
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Its like that for every device, much of ram goes into graphics and android os other ram that u always see full in that 800 mb are the system apps.

Yup, and i imagine TW is using a lot of it too. For comparison when i run MIUI on my Desire HD (with 768MB RAM) i have around 400MB when i boot it up. With Sense it only got around 160MB left.
But again, don't worry about it! Android handles it.

knight2k1 said:
why my Note only has 800mb total RAM? Shouldn't it be 1024mb/1gb? Is this the same for everyone?
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So is the only benefit of more ram the ability to have more open applications? That seems kind of silly. I use tasker and I still get low memory notifications on my note?

bendoe91z28 said:
So is the only benefit of more ram the ability to have more open applications? That seems kind of silly. I use tasker and I still get low memory notifications on my note?
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Which is the exact same purpose of more RAM on a desktop... either more applications or heavier applications. Since the latter don't exist for mobiles, it's the former. Wth did you think it was for, making it shiny?
Protip tough: Go Launcher Ex has a "close all running applications" on it's app drawer. Sometimes, depending on how long I've gone without doing this (on my Atrix) it goes from 180 free MB to over 500 free MB (which is the maximum free you get considering the 800 total for Apps).

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So is the only benefit of more ram the ability to have more open applications? That seems kind of silly. I use tasker and I still get low memory notifications on my note?
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what are you running on your note?
I never close the apps and i've never seen the low memory issue.

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So is the only benefit of more ram the ability to have more open applications? That seems kind of silly.
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Um! Multitasking is silly?
Ok, do it the hard way.

So this discussion again... every single android device gets this.
The RAM that you "can't see" is used by system apps, drivers and the kernel.
1gb is plenty even with some RAM used already. By default Android never closes apps but instead keeps them open in the background thus "eating" RAM to enable faster multitasking. Rarely will you face a situation when the used memory gets too low, and in most cases Android takes care of that by shutting down less important and unused apps itself. If you for some reason have a fetish to see all the RAM unused and available, then you either:
a) Are a PC gamer (Android doesn't have games heavy enough to eat up tons of memory)
or
b) You don't understand how Android works.
Everyone should understand the one main principle of android:
unused RAM is wasted RAM. There is no point having 1gb, 2gb or 16gb of RAM if it isn't used. And like someone earlier said, the two uses for RAM in Android devices are either multiple applications or heavy applications. There are no heavy enough apps to eat 1gb of RAM, so the amount of applications is what affects the available memory. If you close every app from any task manager etc. then you are in principle destroying the multitasking abilities of Android.
And if you want to shut down apps that eat battery or stop the phone from going to sleep, then I strongly suggest uninstalling those apps instead. Apps that do this when they aren't active are badly coded and should not be used.

The problem with uninstalling those apps is that, sometimes, they're quite unique in function, being unreplaceable. GDocs is an example of a battery hog, and it's substitutes are office applications that cost well over 10US$ and not everyone needs.
But yes, the OS should take care ofmost memory managing issues.

Don't buy the Samsung Galaxy S III (yet) see my screen

This Software is still full of bugs.
The screen below (sry is dutch) shows a screenshot of my Galaxy SII and my Galaxy SIII.
Both run Android ICS
Both have about the same apps installed.
but my SII has 458 MB of free ram and my SIII only 89 MB free ram.
This causes a lot of crashes with the touchwizz.
For a phone costing more then a regular laptop I find this very disappointing.
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Might be some of the apps are causing the phone to crash. How was the phone prior to you downloading those apps?

So you are saying not to buy a S3 yet because you are having issues with it? Sorry to hear you are having issues with yours but mine works great! I don't have any issues like you & maybe you should start researching on rooting & using custom ROMs.
Since you didn't specify if you are using a custom ROM or stock, I'm going to assume you are using stock. When I was running stock, I didn't have issues as you either.
Don't cry wolf!

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This Software is still full of bugs.
The screen below (sry is dutch) shows a screenshot of my Galaxy SII and my Galaxy SIII.
Both run Android ICS
Both have about the same apps installed.
but my SII has 458 MB of free ram and my SIII only 89 MB free ram.
This causes a lot of crashes with the touchwizz.
For a phone costing more then a regular laptop I find this very disappointing.
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I call complete BS on this whole topic. They are not running nearly the same kind of identical software and the SGS3 has ran great in my hands compared to my Skyrocket.
There are plenty of SGSII vs SGS3 videos and articles on the internet. Don't let this topic discourage you. Do your research.
On my homescreen I have Beautiful Clock widget, FOlder organizer, 5 folders full of apps, Google voice widget, Gmail widget, flip board, pulse, active apps widget, S Calendar widget, Music widget, Negative colors, assentive light, google search with a live wallpaper (Captain America).
I don't have any lag issues and I haven't noticed any reload issues. Maybe because I sold my Skyrocket and used my Captivate for a long time and the homescreen might be loading way too fast to even notice a reload, but from what I see I have experienced such problems.

Already a few topics on this and tips on how to make the most of the RAM you have.

LOL! Dont buy a pentium pc (yet). My 8086 is less buggy and more reliable. Same goes for my 1988 Ford Fiesta compared to the new new 3 series BM.

That image is showing that your Galaxy S III actually has less usable ram than the Galaxy S II.
I'm assuming your Galaxy S II has a custom kernel, with extra RAM tweaks and more ram allocated from somewhere, no?
Actually, I'd pretty much bet money that it does.
Want a clean comparison? Flash your SGSII to stock, and re-check your RAM
EDIT: Also the reason for the SGSIII having less free ram is because more apps are currently running. Whereas it's clear that your SGSII has less apps running.

... iv also read before that the more RAM being used, the better - better to have the RAM utilised than not with Android OS.

Well I get 2gb or ram.. can I still buy it? Lol

It's nothing no one can say about this phone that will stop me from buying it. I don't care if you get instant diarrhea by touching it. I'll buy it along with some Depends.
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This is my current GS3 RAM usage.

This is either a misinformed post or a troll post.
Either way, it doesn't need its own thread.

charlieb620 said:
It's nothing no one can say about this phone that will stop me from buying it. I don't care if you get instant diarrhea by touching it. I'll buy it along with some Depends.
Exactly what I was thinking
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Here's mine

Here's a hint one post total the op has lol I'm running the EVO LTE only and lag I get from ram is when I'm running multiple things quickly switching apps with sense running as well .
Touch wiz is smaller and may have some bugs but a thread to get others to not buy a device you should banned yourself from all phone related furums ..
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You're an idiot.
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Ok guys, for the 147,657,485,667th time.
This is Android/Linux not Windows empty RAM is wasted RAM !!

I can confirm this is nonsense, not only does my s3 outperform my s2, the day i got it my boss promoted me at work, i won a new car in a lucky draw compettition and a supermodel gave me her number after i saved her dog from being run over by a car, we are now dating. So yes, the s3 has its advantages.
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harise100 said:
Ok guys, for the 147,657,485,667th time.
This is Android/Linux not Windows empty RAM is wasted RAM !!
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Hey, windows got better at this with 7 and, I assume, 8. Microsoft seems to be embracing this ideal.

May I be so bold to suggest that you should not buy a house. It could burn down. They have not yet find a solution to build a house that is fire proof.
Also..do not stay inside a house. you could get killed from fumes, pollutants and worst, from the house falling on you!
What about the car you drive? You might get a bad tire, brakes not working, engine exploding, etc.
I guess and I hope you get my point! If not....you need help..and badly!

[Q] Ram

I was wondering why my nexus 10 only shows around 1.6 gigs of ram this shows with the widget I use and also under setting>apps>running the total is again around 1.6 gig. Is some of the ram reserved for the JVM or similar?

It's said that the other 400MB or so is strictly for the GPU

espionage724 said:
It's said that the other 400MB or so is strictly for the GPU
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Thanks for the info. Anyone know of a widget that shows both the system and gpu ram usage ?

I have only 1.2 gb of RAM... Stock 4.2.2
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Capture from few days ago (4.2.1)
What is happening?
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Pre-4.2.2, out of the 2GB, 400MB was reserved for the GPU. 4.2.2 gives an additional 380 or so MB to the GPU (totaling close to 800MB reserved for the GPU) in order to prevent userspace RAM fragmentation.

Thanks for the info
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espionage724 said:
Pre-4.2.2, out of the 2GB, 400MB was reserved for the GPU. 4.2.2 gives an additional 380 or so MB to the GPU (totaling close to 800MB reserved for the GPU) in order to prevent userspace RAM fragmentation.
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Thanks a lot that really helped. I have just got my Nexus 10 a couple of hours ago and was **** scared that I would have to send it back!!!
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espionage724 said:
Pre-4.2.2, out of the 2GB, 400MB was reserved for the GPU. 4.2.2 gives an additional 380 or so MB to the GPU (totaling close to 800MB reserved for the GPU) in order to prevent userspace RAM fragmentation.
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What does userspace RAM fragmentation mean? Sorry for being noob...
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Basically it means when the gpu needs more it doesnt take away from userland aka launcher apps etc. Instead they reserved an extra 400mb for the gpu to help with performance on the crazy hifh resolution
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Well, **** I think that they should have let it take away RAM from the user, I keep like 15 tabs open at all times and only having 1.2gigs free causes the browser to run out of memory and crash.

Fidelator said:
Well, **** I think that they should have let it take away RAM from the user, I keep like 15 tabs open at all times and only having 1.2gigs free causes the browser to run out of memory and crash.
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Weird, Android should keep all tabs open and reload them if you want to see them. My phone does exactly that.
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Fidelator said:
Well, **** I think that they should have let it take away RAM from the user, I keep like 15 tabs open at all times and only having 1.2gigs free causes the browser to run out of memory and crash.
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15 tabs open is considered excessive on a laptop and low end desktops. Let alone a tablet. As is the case though when it was allowed to rob from the userspace RAM is it was fragmenting it.. Which in a lot of cases probably left you with less usable RAM then you get now.
Fragmented RAM = There is free RAM but because it isnt a contiguous block the OS can't use it. It's sits there completely wasted until x-y-z happens.
Two great pictures showing what fragmented memory is and why it's a problem. These are about Netware servers but the same principles apply.. Fragmentation = Bad and a waste of space.
External Fragmentation
Internal Fragmentation

styckx said:
15 tabs open is considered excessive on a laptop and low end desktops. Let alone a tablet. As is the case though when it was allowed to rob from the userspace RAM is it was fragmenting it.. Which in a lot of cases probably left you with less usable RAM then you get now.
Fragmented RAM = There is free RAM but because it isnt a contiguous block the OS can't use it. It's sits there completely wasted until x-y-z happens.
Two great pictures showing what fragmented memory is and why it's a problem. These are about Netware servers but the same principles apply.. Fragmentation = Bad and a waste of space.
External Fragmentation
Internal Fragmentation
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I usually keep at least 25 tabs open in my first gen i5 laptop without problems (I have 6gbs of RAM though).
And damn that sucks, but would the the unusable RAM ever reach 400mbs?

Fidelator said:
I usually keep at least 25 tabs open in my first gen i5 laptop without problems (I have 6gbs of RAM though).
And damn that sucks, but would the the unusable RAM ever reach 400mbs?
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That I can't answer.. I just would be illogically guessing at that point.
Yeah, extra RAM helps on the PC end of things with browser tabs.. It can start bogging down on the CPU though with ads, flash, and scripts running. :laugh: My ADD can't deal with more then 4 tabs at once.. I'd go nuts with 25. :laugh:

I would also suggest a lighterweight browser. I use lightning browser mostly. And chrome beta only when a page doesn't render something properly in lightning.
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make free RAM space

What is the best way to make free RAM space. Looks 2/2.77GB is used for me using/running only Lollipop. Does the OS using that all? Thinking to clear all bloatwares if somebody could tell me what is all safe to clear. Thanks

Free RAM is wasted RAM...
Do you have any problems with multitasking, app reloading etc.? If not, let Android take care of the usage and ignore the RAM bar.
I am coming from the S3 with 1GB RAM, where 500Mb were constantly in use. Frequent app reloads included.
Now that I have the Note 4, I can switch as much as I want without reloads. I'm loving it! My RAM is currently 2.4/2.7 GB in use, but who cares
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MisterKanister said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM...
Do you have any problems with multitasking, app reloading etc.? If not, let Android take care of the usage and ignore the RAM bar.
I am coming from the S3 with 1GB RAM, where 500Mb were constantly in use. Frequent app reloads included.
Now that I have the Note 4, I can switch as much as I want without reloads. I'm loving it! My RAM is currently 2.4/2.7 GB in use, but who cares
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Actually, I have no problems yet but worried about RAM. Thanks for your tip, hope everything will be OK in future

MisterKanister said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM...
Do you have any problems with multitasking, app reloading etc.? If not, let Android take care of the usage and ignore the RAM bar.
I am coming from the S3 with 1GB RAM, where 500Mb were constantly in use. Frequent app reloads included.
Now that I have the Note 4, I can switch as much as I want without reloads. I'm loving it! My RAM is currently 2.4/2.7 GB in use, but who cares
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Note 4 is pretty awful at multitasking, although it works, because there is no RAM, free or not, to multitask with.
You need free Ram so that when you load a new app, an old one isn't destroyed.
Wish people wouldn't regurgitate silly quotes that aren't true.

cro.dev said:
What is the best way to make free RAM space. Looks 2/2.77GB is used for me using/running only Lollipop. Does the OS using that all? Thinking to clear all bloatwares if somebody could tell me what is all safe to clear. Thanks
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Go to application manager / running .
Find apps which you dont use but they running in background (messengers, music players some other) and shut them down manually. Some will restart but some won't. Find offensive apps and check if you can turn them off - not all of them can be turned off in application manager. That can be achieved on not rooted device. If you rooted you can use many applications to freeze and prevent offensive apps from automatic start
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thanks for tips, I ll try them all

Jonathan-H said:
Note 4 is pretty awful at multitasking, although it works, because there is no RAM, free or not, to multitask with.
You need free Ram so that when you load a new app, an old one isn't destroyed.
Wish people wouldn't regurgitate silly quotes that aren't true.
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Didn't quite understand what you meant here

Hi guys,
Same thing here.
Over 2gb in use with apparently no apps running. So, is this normal?
Thanks
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Free ram is wasted ram.

For the most part (on smart phones running android) that saying is very true. Free ram is wasted ram. So it's not a regurgitation as one guy said...and almost every developer here would likely agree to that saying

About the claming 2GB ram of the Samsung Galaxy S5

Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
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Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~

*Detection* said:
Free RAM is 300MB (Which will change depending on usage)
Actually installed RAM is 2GB
Some is reserved for GPU so will only show about 1.7GB~
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Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?

user7269464 said:
Thank you Detection!
e well no, actually the thing I am concerned about is the abnormity of the ram taken.
Only three programs are running as shown in the picture and they took like 300mbs adding up, however where is my other like 1.3 GB ram..?
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There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android

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There is no image in your post
The System uses the rest of the RAM, Android is a RAM hog
With nothing else running, I get about 600MB free
Check your PC task manager, with no programs running, Windows uses about 1.5GB RAM, similar reason with Android
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oh yeah, that's a good analogy. Thank you!
and how come, I posted the public link pf the pic that I uploaded into my google drive.
btw how did the folks in the forum post the pictures?

:good:
Might need more posts - but normally you upload to an image hosting site, then click the little picture icon above the reply box, and paste the direct image URL into there

user7269464 said:
Hi folks!
pretty new to the forum and for now I am not knowing much about the android. But here got some basic question that hinders my daily use of my cellphone:
The device I am using is samsung Galaxy S 5, and the model is G9008v, for those you know is the version with the China Mobile carrier.
SO, the ram is claimed to be 2GB, right?
bUT WHEN I am using it, the available ram is only about the 300mbs....
Here I've attached the ram status so that I could get some help. As you could see here only THREE programs ar erunning but the total ram is 1.6GB and there are 1.3 GB taken, For no use?
Thanks!
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2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck

Sam7777777 said:
2 GB ram is not enough, android system itself eats more than 1 GB sometimes
so the solution i use is
If u want more ram, then use XtreStoLite 2.2 rom, which is extremely lightweight, i managed to free up ram upto 1.2 GB (Wow), tweaking like Freezeing, greenify etc. now Free Ram is ALWAYS more than .90GB when not using any app, even after hours of use
only downside is that, its 5.0 lollipop not 5.1
but for me Multi tasking is more important to me than android version
Good Luck
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thanks！！