Overscan problems - M.O.J.O. General

Any suggestions? Is this one of the elusive FIXES proposed in the next maybe update? :-/

Pleiades7 said:
Any suggestions? Is this one of the elusive FIXES proposed in the next maybe update? :-/
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MOJO is outputting in true 1080p whereas most TVs will be applying some scaling - it's usually easily fixed by adjusting a setting on the TV though. What and where that setting is will differ from TV to TV though because they all call it something different. Sometimes it's referred to as a per pixel mode, sometimes it's a PC mode, sometimes it's called Scan Only - usually these options are found in the same menus as the screen format options, sometimes hidden in an advanced menu somewhere.
If you can't find something that adjusts it then let me know the make and model and I'll check out the TV's manual online.

Pleiades7 said:
Any suggestions? Is this one of the elusive FIXES proposed in the next maybe update? :-/
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follow the mojo install guide which shipped on the unit.

Mojorising said:
follow the mojo install guide which shipped on the unit.
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The setting can also sometimes be found under "zoom" (at least on some vizios)

solsearch said:
The setting can also sometimes be found under "zoom" (at least on some vizios)
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I had this issue on my 42" Viore LED(Cheaper off brand). There is no where in the TV settings that address this issue. So I just hooked it up to my Vizio. Both TVs are native 1080p.

mherma said:
I had this issue on my 42" Viore LED(Cheaper off brand). There is no where in the TV settings that address this issue. So I just hooked it up to my Vizio. Both TVs are native 1080p.
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It's highly likely to have an option somewhere to do it. For example on the LG that we've got here in the office the setting you need isn't in any of the format menus. Instead what you have to do is hit the Source button on the remote then press right on the d-pad of the remote to change the HDMI channel you're using from DTV mode to PC Mode.

Some TVs don't have overscan adjustment but here what can be done...
mherma said:
I had this issue on my 42" Viore LED(Cheaper off brand). There is no where in the TV settings that address this issue. So I just hooked it up to my Vizio. Both TVs are native 1080p.
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Yes there are some TVs that are set up where either there is no setting to adjust Overscan and Underscan or the setting is only available under certain modes (Such as the Visio VW26L where there is no adjustment under HDMI). Newer mainstream models now include this setting, so just keep this in mind the next time when you shop for you next tv.
As for now, your alt solutions are few. Android builds before 4.3 only address overscan and underscan where it is incorporated into the settings (found on most android sticks) or an app is made targeting a specific device (i.e. EVO, Ouya). You can use an App on the M.O.J.O. called "SecondScreen" on Google Play and change to a slightly higher resolution (i.e. 1280x800). Objects on the left and right will at least come into view, but so far I have been unable to pull in the top and bottom.
Todays stand alone applications manage overscan only for Android Builds 4.3 and higher. I know this isn't the ideal answer you were looking for but I hope you find this information more helpful.

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TV Guide app

Anything in the TV Guide realm that works on the Rhodium?
I have TV Guide Mobile made by Handmark but the interface is not finger friendly and the channel listing isn't exactly up to date. For example, not too long ago Comcast in the Bay area added Setanta Sports to their lineup, channel 300, but I cannot find that in the listing.
I can circumvent that by selecting DirecTV as the provider, but another limitation is that the app has realtime data downloads rather than a daily updated guide.
devis said:
Anything in the TV Guide realm that works on the Rhodium?
I have TV Guide Mobile made by Handmark but the interface is not finger friendly and the channel listing isn't exactly up to date. For example, not too long ago Comcast in the Bay area added Setanta Sports to their lineup, channel 300, but I cannot find that in the listing.
I can circumvent that by selecting DirecTV as the provider, but another limitation is that the app has realtime data downloads rather than a daily updated guide.
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I too would love this! I don't even care if it uses realtime data, although daily update would be better.
TV Guide Mobile is no longer available for download.
Here it is...
the initial setup screens are a little screwed up mostly due to the different resolution. But you'll figure it out. Everything is changeable in the setup menu later anyway.
But you'll see that the realtime data is a bit of a pain, not to mention really not finger friendly. The nice thing is that it works on regular and panoramic screen formats.
There is always Zap2It for US listings.
I use a Program called Sage TV at home for a whole house A/V distribution system and it has a webserver plugin that I can get my guide data from. It even allows me to schedule recordings to watch when I get home and when I used to record in MPEG2 SD I could even stream recordings and live tv from my house to my WinMo phone over 3G. Unfortunately I am now recording everything in H.264 and usually HD so it won't squeeze thru my limited upload bandwidth.
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devis said:
Here it is...
the initial setup screens are a little screwed up mostly due to the different resolution. But you'll figure it out. Everything is changeable in the setup menu later anyway.
But you'll see that the realtime data is a bit of a pain, not to mention really not finger friendly. The nice thing is that it works on regular and panoramic screen formats.
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Thanks!! Does it have digital channels? The one I had previously did not, which is why I stopped using it.
it seems to me that this is another one of thoes north american programs that dont work any where else...
...confirm my suspicions...!

I need to know HDMI basics o_O *confused*

Hello all... I'm confused by the HDMI capabilities of my Evo. I'm under the impression that when you connect the micro HDMI cable (I just bought), you're able to view your phone's screen on your TV--as thought it were a large monitor. I thought this is what "mirroring" meant.
All I can see with this micrHDMI cable are videos, slideshows and photos--all pointless activities to the way I use my phone, oh! and play a video game or two, which I don't do. I installed two HDMI apps--the only two that I found on the market. The only thing I have not done is flash a different kernel.
Before I flash another kernel, do I have the wrong idea about what mirroring means?
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Hello all... I'm confused by the HDMI capabilities of my Evo. I'm under the impression that when you connect the micro HDMI cable (I just bought), you're able to view your phone's screen on your TV--as thought it were a large monitor. I thought this is what "mirroring" meant.
All I can see with this micrHDMI cable are videos, slideshows and photos--all pointless activities to the way I use my phone, oh! and play a video game or two, which I don't do. I installed two HDMI apps--the only two that I found on the market. The only thing I have not done is flash a different kernel.
Before I flash another kernel, do I have the wrong idea about what mirroring means?
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No, you don't have the wrong idea. The evo's native HDMI capabilities will only allow you to see certain things on the tv screen, such as youtube, streaming video, the gallery app, etc (as you already noted). There are two apps in the market, both of which I've had success with. Those apps (fullhdmi and hdmwin) both allow you to mirror whatever is on your evo's screen to the tv. Anything on your phone's screen will be mirrored to the tv you have it connected to. I havent used either of the two apps in a month or so actually, but I thought that a custom kernel was no longer required to use either one of them? (although a custom kernel did make things seem a bit smoother, as I believe it enabled hardware acceleration)
So in short, you don't have the wrong idea, and you are indeed able to do what you have set out to do.
EDIT: I just noticed that you said you have intalled both of the hdmi apps on to your phone. I would suggest uninstalling one of them, as they could interfere with eachother. Decide which one you want to use, and then uninstall the other one and reboot your phone, then try it.
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No, you don't have the wrong idea. The evo's native HDMI capabilities will only allow you to see certain things on the tv screen, such as youtube, streaming video, the gallery app, etc (as you already noted). There are two apps in the market, both of which I've had success with. Those apps (fullhdmi and hdmwin) both allow you to mirror whatever is on your evo's screen to the tv. Anything on your phone's screen will be mirrored to the tv you have it connected to. I havent used either of the two apps in a month or so actually, but I thought that a custom kernel was no longer required to use either one of them? (although a custom kernel did make things seem a bit smoother, as I believe it enabled hardware acceleration)
So in short, you don't have the wrong idea, and you are indeed able to do what you have set out to do.
EDIT: I just noticed that you said you have intalled both of the hdmi apps on to your phone. I would suggest uninstalling one of them, as they could interfere with eachother. Decide which one you want to use, and then uninstall the other one and reboot your phone, then try it.
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As always, k2buckley is on point. Please note that for the best results, a custom kernel (check my sig for the one I'm using) is better because it will allow the app to work better by allowing certain features and output resolutions to work that will not work without the custom kernel. I use the mirroring feature frequently, so for me it is worth having the custom kernel.
k2buckley said:
EDIT: I just noticed that you said you have intalled both of the hdmi apps on to your phone. I would suggest uninstalling one of them, as they could interfere with eachother. Decide which one you want to use, and then uninstall the other one and reboot your phone, then try it.
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Thank you for your prompt response. Could the problem also be in my TV settings?
This is what I did (Using a 52" Panasonic plasma - w/Vieracast):
1) Installed the app. (Full HDMI by Team Win, uninstalled. Installed FuLLHDMI by orrebmas)
2) plugged everything in (HDMI to HDMI1 port on my tv and micro to the Evo)
3) Selected the input to HDMI1 (using my remote).
4) Results, *Black screen* I didn't see anything until I produced the Gallery, YouTube or videos on my phone which now I'm learning are default.
Other than flashing a custom kernel, I can't imagine what else you'd need to do.
semperlux said:
Thank you for your prompt response. Could the problem also be in my TV settings?
This is what I did (Using a 52" Panasonic plasma - w/Vieracast):
1) Installed the app. (Full HDMI by Team Win, uninstalled. Installed FuLLHDMI by orrebmas)
2) plugged everything in (HDMI to HDMI1 port on my tv and micro to the Evo)
3) Selected the input to HDMI1 (using my remote).
4) Results, *Black screen* I didn't see anything until I produced the Gallery, YouTube or videos on my phone which now I'm learning are default.
Other than flashing a custom kernel, I can't imagine what else you'd need to do.
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Did you open up the FullHDMI app, and click the button that says 'apply and start mirroring' or something to that nature? It doesn't sound like you started the actual app. And if you don't start the app, it reverts to the phone's default capabilitites. Once you start the app, and hit the button that says start mirroring, it should start. If it won't display, you may need to change the output resolution. I believe there were 4 or 5 settings in the app. On my TV, which is a 50" Samsung, only 2 of the settings would work. All of the other settings, my tv would say something like 'format not supported'. I had to mess around for a couple minutes, but was able to get it to work. And it worked rather nicely as well, once I got it going.
You can find trouble shooting tips and even live support via chat on the FullHDMI website here:
http://members.cox.net/lokifish/index.html
As buckley said, once you connect the HDMI cable from your phone to the TV, you need to hit the button that says "Start FullHDMI Service". If you get a black screen, hit the second tab and make sure the resolution is not set to 720p (unless you have the custom kernel). Also, please note that 800x600 is a resolution for computers and not supported by all TV's, so you may want to try PAL or EDTV if you get a black screen. Once you change the resolution, go back to the main tab and hit the start button again. Since it is already running, it will say "Reapply Service" or something like that.
There are many more trouble shooting tips on the site asides from what I mentioned above. I suggest you check it out. Lokifish is pretty good about being on the chat server, so chances are you can get live help there, as well.
Ok, there we go... it's working. The setting my TV will let me use is EDTV. Thanks everyone for all your help.
Now back to stock YouTube
will not work. I have tried disabling HDMwin service already without success.
Also tried uninstalling stock onboard YouTube and re-installing it.
If I disable HDMWin service, shouldn't this be all I need to do in order
to use onboard YouTube without mirroring it?
jdub1234 said:
will not work. I have tried disabling HDMwin service already without success.
Also tried uninstalling stock onboard YouTube and re-installing it.
If I disable HDMWin service, shouldn't this be all I need to do in order
to use onboard YouTube without mirroring it?
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If you're on a Sense rom, the YouTube app should work with the native HDMI capabilities of the Evo. If you're on an AOSP rom, you will have no native HDMI capabilities, and the only way for HDMI to work is with one of the two available apps in the market. If you are on a sense rom, and it's still not working, there could be a few things causing your problem. Such as a bad HDMI cable, a bad HDMI port, or the particular kernel you're on may not support HDMI output.
On on a Sense ROM
Netarchy.
The native HDMI worked prior to flashing Netarchy so I know it's ok.
One thing kind of odd that I noticed with the native YouTube before I
re-installed it. The search function stopped working for some reason.
I have no idea why. So, I uninstalled the native YouTube, re-installed
a new one and the search function is back. I now also have two YouTube
icons, only one of which works.
I have yet to try the new native YouTube for HDMI and will do that today.
I also tried dragging the "old" Youtbube icon off the desktop but it won't
disappear.

Device Resolution

The first thing I see when the Mojo boots up is a message to the tune of change your device resolution. I'm not at all a developer, nor am I well versed in using an android device. I own one cheap Chinese tablet, dragon touch or something similar. Can do the basics, but I mostly use it as a reader. Of course I have a phone, but again I've never gone out of my way to use it for more than a phone. I'm fairly acquainted with Linux so my nephew has turned to me to help him with this. I've the male to male on order to root the system, but I doubt that's much to do with the problem. We have a hard time navigating with certain apps due to the resolution cut off, but mostly not seeing complete gauges in games kind of makes a game machine...a bit crap to say it lightly. For the money one should expect more. I can't find any solution in the setting. When I plug my tablet into my television it handles it with a secondary display GUI popping up and allowing me to choose the setting. Given the Mad Catz is using the TV as it's primary display I wouldn't suppose there'd be a clever way to trick it into thinking the TV is a secondary display? Just the only thing I could come up with I'm not married to the idea. If yous guys know how to help me that'd be great. bonus if this can be taken care of with out getting into terminal, or the android equivalent. Thanks buds.
Oh also, in the mean time while I wait on my cable. Is there a way to install games you've bought on Google Play manually through a usb stick?
Marchegiano said:
due to the resolution cut off
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Do you mean an overscan issue?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629396
Basically, you have to google your TV's make model and find how to turn oversan off.
When I use the MOJO on a PC monitor.. the resolutions drops to something like 320x320.. not sure why.. but I remove the HDMI cable, let the MOJO boot up then I plug the HDMI cable in and it's a 1024.
Marchegiano said:
Oh also, in the mean time while I wait on my cable. Is there a way to install games you've bought on Google Play manually through a usb stick?
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For free apps, install a google store alternative, ie:
http://joyofandroid.com/24-android-app-store-alternatives-for-those-who-hate-google-play/
I used Aptoide before rooting.
For paid apps, you could try backing up the apk on another device and sideload it on the MOJO.
I wouldn't bother doing either, just wait and root it.
thanks bud
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Do you mean an overscan....
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bingo jingo bud, thanks a bunch.
gwaldo said:
Do you mean an overscan issue?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629396
Basically, you have to google your TV's make model and find how to turn oversan off.
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Thank you! This is exactly what I needed.
Some televisions will adjust the picture of M.O.J.O. so that the edges are off screen. To change this, you should check the settings menus of your television and look for Aspect Ratio or Zoom options. Every television is different so the exact method for adjusting will differ from model to model. However, if there's a Zoom level option then setting that to 'Full' should solve it. Alternatively, if it's an Aspect Ratio menu then 'Scan Only' is the option to select.
Be sure to update the firmware on M.O.J.O. if you haven't already. The firmware update introduces a modification to the way Google identifies the M.O.J.O. hardware which allows for many, many more games to be listed and downloadable in the Google Play Store. This modification makes it so you don't have to root the device anymore, unless you want to for the other typical customization benefits that root access allows. Rooting won't void your warranty.
If you went through our "Getting Started" walkthrough, you can use "ES File Manager" for accessing any files stored in your Download folder or on a USB.

New from AppleTV-land

Hey All! So I got tired of waiting for either a root for the AppleTV3, or for Apple to man up and start allowing some of their App store love on the AppleTV. I was using both an ATV3 for Netflix and MLBTV and an old ATV1 for XBMC to stream SD content from a media server....
I got a discount on the MOJO, and it's been great, very easy setup process and rooting wasn't so bad either. Not nearly as cumbersome as the AppleTV was back in the day. Didn't realize I had an account on here from 10 years ago with a nifty Palm phone I had (Treo 700wx)... This was pre-iPhone mind you!
My challenges so far have been:
1) screen scaling - the edges of the screen are <just> off of my TV. XBMC on the appleTV had a scaling factor, and my TV doesn't have any options... I don't see anything in the App store either.
2) XBMC streaming just stops randomly from time to time, about 5 times per hour. I think it might have been the "full!screen" app. I'm going to keep an eye on it. I hope the wifi on the MOJO isn't to blame.
3) NTFS write: I have been able to unmount the stock android mount with Paragon, and then mount it back up with stickMount. But it doesn't happen automatic on startup. Maybe there's something in the startup "ini" that can turn off the stock mount? Then stickMount can run at startup...
4) "mirror" content - Rather than stream my content, I would like to setup a mirror, probably with FTP and Cloudberry backup.
But that's all gravy, basically I have been happy with the box. Happy to be here!
joecacti said:
Hey All! So I got tired of waiting for either a root for the AppleTV3, or for Apple to man up and start allowing some of their App store love on the AppleTV. I was using both an ATV3 for Netflix and MLBTV and an old ATV1 for XBMC to stream SD content from a media server....
I got a discount on the MOJO, and it's been great, very easy setup process and rooting wasn't so bad either. Not nearly as cumbersome as the AppleTV was back in the day. Didn't realize I had an account on here from 10 years ago with a nifty Palm phone I had (Treo 700wx)... This was pre-iPhone mind you!
My challenges so far have been:
1) screen scaling - the edges of the screen are <just> off of my TV. XBMC on the appleTV had a scaling factor, and my TV doesn't have any options... I don't see anything in the App store either.
2) XBMC streaming just stops randomly from time to time, about 5 times per hour. I think it might have been the "full!screen" app. I'm going to keep an eye on it. I hope the wifi on the MOJO isn't to blame.
3) NTFS write: I have been able to unmount the stock android mount with Paragon, and then mount it back up with stickMount. But it doesn't happen automatic on startup. Maybe there's something in the startup "ini" that can turn off the stock mount? Then stickMount can run at startup...
4) "mirror" content - Rather than stream my content, I would like to setup a mirror, probably with FTP and Cloudberry backup.
But that's all gravy, basically I have been happy with the box. Happy to be here!
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Glad to hear over all your enjoying it, can't remember the exact process but somewhere in the xmbc settings there is the ability to resize the display manually, I had to use it with my TV to remove the boarders properly too.
Ash180287 said:
Glad to hear over all your enjoying it, can't remember the exact process but somewhere in the xmbc settings there is the ability to resize the display manually, I had to use it with my TV to remove the boarders properly too.
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So that's interesting... If XBMC can do it, then it can be done in any other apps (or across the whole interface)... I saw another post about /sys/devices/platform/.../fb0 (http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?7948-SCRIPT-Modifying-Display-Scale). I checked that path on the M.O.J.O., but of course the hardware is different, plus I'm not sure if there are native methods to handle scaling. Something to look into more for sure. I'll start by finding the fb0 interface I guess...
joecacti said:
My challenges so far have been:
1) screen scaling - the edges of the screen are <just> off of my TV. XBMC on the appleTV had a scaling factor, and my TV doesn't have any options... I don't see anything in the App store either.
2) XBMC streaming just stops randomly from time to time, about 5 times per hour. I think it might have been the "full!screen" app. I'm going to keep an eye on it. I hope the wifi on the MOJO isn't to blame.
3) NTFS write: I have been able to unmount the stock android mount with Paragon, and then mount it back up with stickMount. But it doesn't happen automatic on startup. Maybe there's something in the startup "ini" that can turn off the stock mount? Then stickMount can run at startup...
4) "mirror" content - Rather than stream my content, I would like to setup a mirror, probably with FTP and Cloudberry backup.
But that's all gravy, basically I have been happy with the box. Happy to be here!
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Hi welcome,
#1 sounds like tv overscan
#2 I doubt it's a wifi issue, could be a XBMC buffering setting? (I don't use it much)
#3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52750447#post52750447, maybe more, do a search for ntfs
#4 I'm looking at the same, probably will just use filezilla

Photos on Samsung Smart TV | thumbnails?

Hello xda enthusiasts!
Today I tried to cast/share my photos taken with LG G6 directly from my phone to the Samsung Smart TV (UE48H6770). I used the cast/share option (button) that is built-in the default LG G6 gallery application.
The picture was displayed on my TV, however instead of proper BIG (full resolution) picture, it looked like the thumbnail. I double check the picture details (3120x4160) on the phone and that shown on the TV (360x480)...
Has anyone encountered the same issue? If yes, were you able to fix it?
P.S. I found another person with the same problem who posted it on AndroidCentral
Thanks!
ha,ha, I noticed that myself. I was puzzled why they all appears to be small image and not full size. never really solved it, but would be interesting to know what the solution is.
vitoski said:
Hello xda enthusiasts!
Today I tried to cast/share my photos taken with LG G6 directly from my phone to the Samsung Smart TV (UE48H6770). I used the cast/share option (button) that is built-in the default LG G6 gallery application.
The picture was displayed on my TV, however instead of proper BIG (full resolution) picture, it looked like the thumbnail. I double check the picture details (3120x4160) on the phone and that shown on the TV (360x480)...
Has anyone encountered the same issue? If yes, were you able to fix it?
P.S. I found another person with the same problem who posted it on AndroidCentral
Thanks!
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I know it's old thread & also i don't know whether you find the solution.
You should use 'Screen Sharing" option.
You can find it under toggle menu.
@sagor1,That's exactly what I have ended up doing, however this is far from perfect. Sharing screen didn't show pictures in full when mode (at least on my TV).
I thought sharing directly from gallery app (I assume it uses DLNA) would be a better option, but it turned out to be useless - maybe due to DLNA implemention of LG...
vitoski said:
@sagor1,That's exactly what I have ended up doing, however this is far from perfect. Sharing screen didn't show pictures in full when mode (at least on my TV).
I thought sharing directly from gallery app (I assume it uses DLNA) would be a better option, but it turned out to be useless - maybe due to DLNA implemention of LG...
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I use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.smartviewad&hl=de
Works for me on Samsung TV
martmarq said:
I use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.smartviewad&hl=de
Works for me on Samsung TV
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Thanks. I thought I would not need to use separate app, just to share photos on the TV. However looks like due to lack of standard for DLNA each vendor has different implementation.
I'm wondering if this problem doesn't exist on LG smart TVs

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