Really disappointed with the Z1S. - Xperia Z General

I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.

Mudig said:
I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.
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The display is way better than any other xperia in terms of viewing angles and colours.
Not as good as the one's one but still very good.
No comment about the ui bloatwiz isn't even comparable to the sony ui.
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Boohoohoo...
Honestly, you're the first person that I know that finds the Z1 "uglier" than the S3.
Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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chefnoob said:
Boohoohoo...
Honestly, you're the first person that I know that finds the Z1 "uglier" than the S3.
Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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The S3 is pretty ugly too and feels cheap while the Z1S feels like a well-built phone, and while I prefer the Z1S over the S3 in the looks department, it's still ugly so it doesn't matter.

Mudig said:
The S3 is pretty ugly too and feels cheap while the Z1S feels like a well-built phone, and while I prefer the Z1S over the S3 in the looks department, it's still ugly so it doesn't matter.
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Its amazing how a few mm added to the bezel can make or break a phone's feel, doesn't it?
Just look at the Z and Z1... Personally, I feel that the Z looks gorgeous... But when I held the Z1... It just feels...wrong in my hands.
Also, Sony is known for using top-end hardware on their phones but lacks the skill to optimize it properly... So I'm not really surprised about the poor camera performance.
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I hate the Galaxy phones, they look so cheap. Not to mention the bubbly shape makes it look like it's made for girls. Xperia Z ftw!

Mudig said:
I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.
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For me also, the z1's design is a failure. Too dam big. Edging towards phablet territory indeed!
As for the ui, if you like all Samsung 's bloated nonsense then that's your perogative.
The camera too was also a let down so I understand you angst.
The sad thing is Sony doesn't seem to have much better to offer at the start of this year so I guess we're stuck with design failures until September this year.
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After further use, my complaints still stand but I also would like to mention another thing that I LIKE about this phone. It's very powerful apparently. It maxed out the 3dmark benchmark test I just used and I'm quite impressed with the scores it has received.
EDIT: Just tried the higher benchmark like it suggested and it scored 16392 beating a bunch of tablets including the HDX7.

Are you referring to the Z1...or the Z1s?

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Are you referring to the Z1...or the Z1s?
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Both phones are exactly the same(apart from the 32gb internal storage...and I read somewhere that the Z1s' bootloader is not unlockable.
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Lets give some praise to the Z

Over the past week or two. All I have seen is people destroying the Z for a lot of things from the screen to the camera and the battery.
So why don't we talk about what we like about our Z's, as at this point in time I feel a little of buyers remorse
So what do I like, not based on other's reviews just my own experience
Screen - I do actually like the screen, when I had the phone in my hand, head down walking around sitting it's a great screen compared to my Nexus 4 it may not be as saturated but I can definitely tell it is a higher res screen, stuff does look beautiful , even people who have the IP5 etc have said to me wow its a nice display (not even know it had the issues with saturation). Only when I lay down in bed and put my phone on my bed do I notice the angle issues but its not a pain.
Camera - The camera is a pretty decent in low light I have found, compared to my N4 it seems to get a lot more out of an image in terms of low light, the BE engine does do a lot to an image too. It may not be pin sharp but the images are most certainly 100% usable for FB/Instagram - Sending around the web etc. After all for me that's all I do
Speed - No issues, blazing fast. I don't do a lot of gaming, mainly e-mails, twitter, instagram. Using a lot of camera based app when I'm on a set. It boots up quickly, nice smooth transitions, only a little bit of slow loading when I open the camera app. But in terms of bench marks, it's miles ahead of my n4 and sgs III.
I love the design, so much better than my SGS III, which was a great phone it was built to take drops, but it is nice to have a sexy phone in my hands! It's the first phone I pulled out and someone asked me what it was because it looked cool
Launcher - Very nice and simple it kinda stock androidish which I like very minimalistic to a certain extent (looking forward to 4.2.2) I do still have a soft spot for Touch Wiz but it's nice to change it up!
Updates ? - Not 100% sure about this but I thought I would bring it up, it seems sony is helping the community alot, and you guys seem like your doing alot of work on the device so hopefully I will at least get the next major update for android some time this year or next year (4.3 or 5.0)
Overall for what I use it for I dout I could tell a difference between the S4 and the Z apart from the screen as my SGS III seems super saturated in comparison to the N4 and Z.
What do you guys think, why do you love your Z ? Go Zeeee
The camera is my favourite feature, it knocks the socks off my old note 2 and my wife's galaxy s3, indoor pics actually look great.
hdr mode video and the ability to take stills while filming is also really cool.
I also like it's looks, it's minimalist, sleek and turns heads.
Also goes without saying, it's waterproof, which having dropped 2 expensive phone in water in the past, gives me some piece of mind, though I haven't tested the water resistance yet!
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I love the phone, most of the screen chatter IMO is mostly rubbish, two different SZ I have seen were fine as good as any other LCD I have seen for off angle fall off of colours. Everyone I have showed the phone have been wowed by the screen (Samsung,HTC,Nokia & Iphone), it is also very good outside in bright light. This screen is better than any 3 of my HTC phones by a long shot.
The phone is fast and snappy, should be stunning on Linux 3.6, hopefully this comes very soon. The navigation, install, launching of applications I have previously run, again blows away any of my other phones.
Very elegant looking phone, nice design lines, I got the white model . It is pretty light this was my biggest surprise. The power/lock button location is in a fantastic position, the position on most other phones has caused me to loose grip on the phone and drop them on occasion.
I love the throw feature, where I can select My TV, Laptops to display my photos or play my phones contents, and then I can also send the media from any of these devices back to play on the phone, it works great, will be better once they fix the wifi issue.
5 inch in car GPS running Sygic, yeah that rocks!!!
The ability to play Playstation games is pretty cool, although I haven’t tried.
For me one of the best things is being able to back up your entire phone, and sync pretty much everything to your computer, something HTC does not have, nor does most other phone vendors.
Sound quality for audio playback through Walkman app is stunning through my beats headset, no digital encoding artifacts, custom EQ, all the instruments and voices are clearly reproduced, very little hissing noise if any. All of these things mentioned here, are far superior to the HTC Sensation XE, the first phone with Beats Audio.
Having root already just rocks, thanks guys for providing this method Goroh_kun, Bin4ry, Team FreeXperia
I just tried taking pics under water by XZ, it was fantastic.
Also I can't live without walkman.
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Tech.radar on viewing angles:
"The only thing that lets it down is viewing angles - if you look at the Sony Xperia Z's screen, dead on, it's sharp enough. If you look at it from the side, it has a strange ability to look incredibly washed out. It's no huge problem though - unless you like to look at things side on. In which case, see a doctor."
LoL! Totally agree!
The only very small thing that really annoys me is the 4x4 grid.
A display of this size and quality could be 6x5.
Everything else is spot on. Display is awesome, sound is superb, phone is fast and smooth at everything I throw at it.
And it looks great!
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All good here . Still under impression how much faster this thing is than my XS . Loving almost everything about it . We got bug free OS , amazing speed , great camera, great screen , lovely build quality ,battery life above my expectations,fast development by users ..etc. Sound with stock headphones is good ,but connect it with sennheiser ie8 and they give almost perfect combo. The only letdown is loudspeaker ,but i can easily live with that one
noj78 said:
The only very small thing that really annoys me is the 4x4 grid.
A display of this size and quality could be 6x5.
Everything else is spot on. Display is awesome, sound is superb, phone is fast and smooth at everything I throw at it.
And it looks great!
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If you don't like the 4x4 grid I'd recommend installing a third party launcher, I prefer the Apex one.
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Think this phone is fantastic.
Buid quality is one of the best I've ever felt on a phone.
The screen is top notch and all those moaning about viewing angles really are disturbed in my opinion. I look at my screen as intended, straight on, not look at it tilted or from the side, I never understood why you would.
The fact I can text in the shower or bath and not have to worry is great. I also had issues in the past with other devices letting dust in under the screen (HTC I'm looking at you), with this phone no need to worry.
Camera suits me for my needs.
Speed of the phone is never an issue, not had any lags or anything, smooth as butter. I know we have the SGS4 being released soon but do we really need octa core processors? Quad core is not even fully utilized so to have octa core just seems silly in my opinion.
Anyway love the phone and think it's a gem
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I have got nothing but good things to say about this handset. Great screen, great camera, loads of other great features. The only thing for me to be improved is battery life but it's far from bad it's just not good
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A phone is a personal device, as long as it looks beautiful in terms if it's design and makes you stand out from the others when you holding your phone, I think it is already doing its job!
Not to mention the Z is one of the top spec devices for now.
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The screen is the best...the screen is calibrated perfectly for true colours...just compared a same photo on the iphone 5's retina display and there were no difference...just switch the bravia engine off and look...i dont why every reviews say the display is not good while when reading the iphone 5 reviews they say its the best display in the market.
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And the camera is fantadtic in day light or good light...just in indoors the detail is little less but no ugly at all...it performs toe to toe with the iphone 5 in indoor photos in amount of detail..
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reptile64 said:
Tech.radar on viewing angles:
"The only thing that lets it down is viewing angles - if you look at the Sony Xperia Z's screen, dead on, it's sharp enough. If you look at it from the side, it has a strange ability to look incredibly washed out. It's no huge problem though - unless you like to look at things side on. In which case, see a doctor."
LoL! Totally agree!
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water resistance!!!
battery life is awful.
still can't get past the 3.5hour on screen time!
Sv: Lets give some praise to the Z
Had the Z for 24 hours. Love everything about it. Just got to adjust to the size, coming from a iphone 4s. Battery is great, all things considered. Got 5 hours screen time on first cycle. And it wasn't Even fully charged. 83% I think
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Let's go around the whole XDA forum and encourage people to buy Xperia Z
I have to say, Ive just tried the Z and am just loving it. Was waiting for the s4 announcement to decide but im def going for the z now. Just a bloody gorgeous device.
Just for those who say that lack of oleophobic coating is a deal breaker - who needs oleophobic coating when you can just put your phone under the tap and rinse it with water - clean as new
I don't know why so many people are having a go at the battery. I held both the XZ and the HTC One up, both screens look fantastic and have similar viewing angle issues, can get to around 40 degrees before the words start to get a bit blurry on both screens.

Looking to trade Sony Xperia Z for HTC One

I have had my Sony Xperia z for over a week now. I have been so impressed with the phone, it's speed, interface etc. The sound could be better but overall it's hard to complain. Defiantly the best phone I've owned.
Vodafone have kindly aloud me to trade my Xperia for the new HTC ONE at no cost or anything, straight swap. I know of HTC's recent poor history. My friends and family have had old HTC's (2/3 year old models) and they have been extremely poor in terms of reliability.
Just looking some opinions on the phones. I have read and watched many reviews on both phones and the HTC almost always comes out on top on each categorie (design, speed etc)
Considering it's a straight swap is it worth it and why. I'm a heavy phone user and I understand that phones with specs as close as these two are to each other that the differences is down to opinion. But would like some more expect (better knowledge or HTC ONE user help)
Thanks in advance
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I am seriously considering htc one over s4 as I am not one to follow the crowd and love something different
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My super technology literate friend recommended the S4 but gee will be keeping the Sony due to it pushing all his buttons. I can't wait a month (S4 release date) and won't be able to have a straight swap by then. The HTC reliability is his biggest concern.
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virtualyoda said:
I have had my Sony Xperia z for over a week now. I have been so impressed with the phone, it's speed, interface etc. The sound could be better but overall it's hard to complain. Defiantly the best phone I've owned.
Vodafone have kindly aloud me to trade my Xperia for the new HTC ONE at no cost or anything, straight swap. I know of HTC's recent poor history. My friends and family have had old HTC's (2/3 year old models) and they have been extremely poor in terms of reliability.
Just looking some opinions on the phones. I have read and watched many reviews on both phones and the HTC almost always comes out on top on each categorie (design, speed etc)
Considering it's a straight swap is it worth it and why. I'm a heavy phone user and I understand that phones with specs as close as these two are to each other that the differences is down to opinion. But would like some more expect (better knowledge or HTC ONE user help)
Thanks in advance
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It's funny, my opinion might be of value to you.
In February I made my choice: the Xperia Z. I got it at the end of February and owned it for about 4-5 days. Then I send it back, cancelled my order. Yes, I was very happy my carrier accepted it. Why did I do it? First of all, what I didn't like about the XZ:
• Ergonomics: the phone may not be much larger on paper then my S3, but in my hand it felt much less comfortable. Ergnomic wise, the XZ is bad: it's all look but not so much feel. Because of the shape it was just not comfortable for me to use, mostly one handed. Note: I do have small hands.
• The One: On the other hand, the HTC One is a pleasure to use. Just looking at it's curved back and sides, you already can conclude it's nice in the hand. My feeling has been confirmed by all the fantastic reviews about the One. And besides ergonomics, it's seen as the most beautiful/premium looking phone out now.
• The screen: while the XZ's screen was super sharp, there are some problems with it. I have owned my Galaxy S3 for a year, seen the HTC One X a ton of times, but the XZ's screen just seems "washed out" compared to these 2012 flagship's. You really see it when looking from a side (angle) at the XZ's screen: it just seems "washed out". While you can still see what the screen is displaying, this does give the feeling of a "non-premium" product. It bothered me.
• The One: The One's screen is considered one of the best, if not the best, screen out now at the moment. It's the sharpest screen (it won't be a huge difference with the XZ in this aspect), but it also has fantastic viewing angles and contrast. The screen just looks much better, no doubt. While it's 4.7" and smaller then the XZ's 5" screen, you actually see more content 90% of the time on the One. The XZ has onscreen buttons, which the One doesn't. So when webbrowsing, chatting, using your homescreen, etc, you will actually see more on the One then on the XZ. Overall: the One wins with a supperior screen.
These are the 2 main reasons I send back the XZ and waited for something else. Now I can go on by saying that the One has much better speakers, also better audio quality overall (check GSMArena, audio wise the One is fantastic). The One also comes with at least 32GB of storage, though the XZ has microsd card support. For me, the One's camera is also (probably) better because of the excellent low light performance (most picture I take are at party's when going out..).
I would say to you: do the ergonomics and the screen of the XZ bother you? If yes, go for the One!
ps: I'm not really scared about HTC. I owned an HTC HD2 and HTC Desire, before my Galaxy S2 and S3. Both HTC devices were great, expect that the HD2 ran Windows Mobile 6.5 and microsoft announched WP7 3 months after I bought the HD2 If I hadn't send back my XZ and I would be offered what you are being offered, I would go for it no doubt.
ps2: I'm not going for the S4 for several reasons. First of all, I have owned the S2 and S3 the past 2 years. I would really like something new. Second, expect a sharper screen, I won't notice I have a new mobile if I upgrade from the S3 -> S4. Further more, I don't like touchwiz and I am running Cyanogenmod on my S3. The CM team is not happy at all about the S4 and I don't see a CM-build for it anytime soon. So for me going from the S3 to the S4 would almost be a downgrade.. I know, it sounds stupid but it really feels that way.
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virtualyoda said:
My super technology literate friend recommended the S4 but gee will be keeping the Sony due to it pushing all his buttons. I can't wait a month (S4 release date) and won't be able to have a straight swap by then. The HTC reliability is his biggest concern.
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bad experiences?
ive owned
desire
desire hd
htc one s
htc one x
now the one.
the only one i ever found issue on was the one x,with the wifi. The desire and dhd were amazing phones.
ive got a weird issue with the htc one ive got,i think its a first batch? still regardless im getting another one. The s4..is the s4.you either like it or you dont. I still say the htc blows it out of the water. for sense alone comparable to touchwiz.
id say do the trade,although the xperia z is supposed to be a great phone. Probably down to which one you like the look of more than actual specifications. Although shelf life wise id say the htc one. Sony are already gearing up there next flagship which is weird considering the xperia z hasnt been out long.
i say do the trade.i was tempted with the z..but never had one of the newer generation smartphones..so decided against it.
best bet try the htc one in a shop
Thanks very much for your input. Very detailed and exceptionally helpful. Defiantly going for the trade. Super excited
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Thanks very much for your input. Very detailed and exceptionally helpful. Defiantly going for the trade. Super excited
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I was initially in the market for the xperia z until feb 19th..... htc one announcement and it only took me three minutes to test out the camera/video and audio on the htc one and cancel my pre order of xperia z.
since then I have played with both side by side and I think the main things of the phone are better on the One
camera (imo)
video/video audio
audio quality and volume
battery life is great on the one (havent heard good news from my friend who has the z (and is now going to change it for the htc one) and other people who have the z)
call quality and volume
speed
UI(imo)
look and feel (imo)
loud speakers
I've used both but had to choose one to keep. I kept the XZ.
The HTC had a better screen and much better speakers and that's something I was very impressed by. Even Sense and the optional flash player were an advantage.
However, I was not convinced by it's reliability when it came to the basics. By that I am specifically referring to the signal reception. In LTE it just does not hold well to the signal in poor reception areas as the XZ and the Nokia 920. I'm on EE so this could be different when Voda launch 4g as I believe they are on the 800 Mhz band.
The HTC is one of the best smartphones but once again HTC fail on mastering the basics. They have a beautifully engineered phone yet the wireless components are always questionable.
These 2 videos show what I mean by signal instability and fluctuations. Watch the 2 phones on the same network and the variance in signal strength. I've had such a poor experience with LTE on this phone and it dropped so many calls that has not happened once on the XZ which I am enjoying high speed and stability even on one bar of LTE. (also better battery).
It's a shame about the HTC but it may be fixed with a software update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kzW7G07WFc
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I've owned several Sony, Samsung and htc products over the years and all have their shortcomings no doubt. None of created the "perfect" phone and nor will they ever.
Sony phone screen's always look washed out and ui sluggish and unfortunaletly Z is no different especially when comparing to S3, Note 2 and Htc One. That's been the biggest issue with Sony phones. I was tempted to get the Xperia Z because 5" 1080p, sd card, white colour but after playing with it I wasn't impressed, it reminded me of my Xperia T experience, which wasn't pleasant. Primarily sluggish, crashing and washed out colours.
HTC One on the other hand is a pleasure to use.
No lagging issues.
No crashing issues.
Sound is amazing, LOUD and clear.
Ui is brilliant and very different.
Camera is very good.
Screen is gorgeous, vibrant, bright and very sharp. Second to none far superior then Z.
Better reception, certainly better then S3, Note 2 and Sony T.
But what convinced me in getting HTC One, other the above mentioned points, rather then wait for S4 or Z was the premuim build, SLCD3 screen.
So good move mate you won't regret it.
Without a doubt trade it in and get the HTC One, myself and a mate (we're both technical geeks) found the screen on the Z lacking and the pinch and zoom gestures where hit and miss to say the least but let me push out a few points to you for why the one is for you ..
1. fast fluid and zero lag no matter how many apps are open
2. amazing screen with very good viewing angles
3. stunning audio (coming from a guy who doesn't really care about phone audio)
4. very clear call quality
5. camera can give very surprising results if used properly
6. 4 to 7 hours of screen on time
Bad points.
1. can get hot to the touch
2. can be slippy when holding it due to the metal back
daleski75 said:
Without a doubt trade it in and get the HTC One, myself and a mate (we're both technical geeks) found the screen on the Z lacking and the pinch and zoom gestures where hit and miss to say the least but let me push out a few points to you for why the one is for you ..
1. fast fluid and zero lag no matter how many apps are open
2. amazing screen with very good viewing angles
3. stunning audio (coming from a guy who doesn't really care about phone audio)
4. very clear call quality
5. camera can give very surprising results if used properly
6. 4 to 7 hours of screen on time
Bad points.
1. can get hot to the touch
2. can be slippy when holding it due to the metal back
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How hot are we talking.
And no lag even with heavy apps and low battery?
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How hot are we talking.
And no lag even with heavy apps and low battery?
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Not hot enough that it is uncomfortable but it does get warm to the touch and not noticed any lag even with the battery almost flat.
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Not hot enough that it is uncomfortable but it does get warm to the touch and not noticed any lag even with the battery almost flat.
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The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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ksarius said:
The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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Heaving gaming and every now and again from charging. The highest temp I measured was 40 degrees celcius
ksarius said:
The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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From charging the phone as I don't play games on it or from constant use but too be honest it's barely noticeable.
Thank you all for your super detailed and honest device. My HTC One comes tomorrow and i'm more than excited for it. I think I could have a mental problem when it comes to buying, selling and trading new things. I get bored easily and usually change my phone, console or whatever I can every 4-6months.
I cannot fault the XZ. When I get the One tomorrow im not going to be biased if it never faults me and say that the Sony XZ is a poor phone or anything like that. Im not one to use a camera that often, I prefer performance and sound and I feel the One has that.
I wouldn't be trading these phones if it came to any cost to me, don't think it would be worth the trade if it cost me £. There was also an update out today from HTC improve there One's camera in high-light. Glad to see issues being addressed quickly by HTC.
I have always been an iPhone fan but have seen the light and will be staying with android with this trade, and gladly so. Apple iOS is outdated and I couldnt believe the much 'jailbreaking' could be done with an android phone. Look forward to learning more by using ROM's etc to get the most out of my HTC One, I would aim to have the best possible battery endurance and processor speed etc.
If anyone has any knowledge of a current ROM or up coming ROM that is in development that they could recommend for the perks I have mentioned I'd be very grateful for those recommendations.
Thanks again, and I will be sure to give uses all a update on my opinions of the HTC One compared to the Sony XZ

Absolutely Love This Phone!

The screen is amazing, blazing fast, multi tasking is great because of the multi Window modes and pop up apps, feels great in the hand.
For the first time ever, I feel like I can get a ton of work done on my phone.
For those of you on the fence... Go try one out at a store. You will not be disappointed.
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Hardcore73 said:
The screen is amazing, blazing fast, multi tasking is great because of the multi Window modes and pop up apps, feels great in the hand.
For the first time ever, I feel like I can get a ton of work done on my phone.
For those of you on the fence... Go try one out at a store. You will not be disappointed.
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Are you coming from a Note 2? I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it.
Well said couldn't agree more. This phone is crazy fast and tons of options to customize to your needs .
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Actually I own every phone out. So for me to say it's that good is huge.
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Sounds like I'll be taking this LG G2 I have back to AT&T on Friday to exchange for the note 3.
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Actually I own every phone out. So for me to say it's that good is huge.
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Oh I see. It must be good if you say so...
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Hardcore73 said:
The screen is amazing, blazing fast, multi tasking is great because of the multi Window modes and pop up apps, feels great in the hand.
For the first time ever, I feel like I can get a ton of work done on my phone.
For those of you on the fence... Go try one out at a store. You will not be disappointed.
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bought the s4 and i tried the 5s for the past 2 weeks, both phones did not make me as excited/ kiddish as the note 3.
You will love the look and feel of this phone. The weight is perfect so it doesn't feel like a brick (LG Pro), speed is fast so it doesn't get the lag (S4), big without being too big with bezels (Sony Xperia Z Ultra), OS is complete butter so it is fast (Moto X), while it lacks the external speakers (HTC One) it makes up for it with better sound quality when using head phones. Camera is excellent and video doesn't have focus issues (LG G2). Hope that explains it a little better and compares it with every new phone out right now. I have owned all the phones and didn't mention the Lumia 1020 (great camera, terrible battery and OS missing apps), Xperia Z (love the waterproof but camera terrible, Xperia ZL, same as Z, S4 Active had excellent screen and all around better than the Sony Z line for me. iPhone 5s was same as 5 for me even tho I did like the fingerprint unlock and faster burst mode camera (but not worth the upgrade IMO). Have a good day.
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^nicely put ^
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Hardcore73 said:
You will love the look and feel of this phone. The weight is perfect so it doesn't feel like a brick (LG Pro), speed is fast so it doesn't get the lag (S4), big without being too big with bezels (Sony Xperia Z Ultra), OS is complete butter so it is fast (Moto X), while it lacks the external speakers (HTC One) it makes up for it with better sound quality when using head phones. Camera is excellent and video doesn't have focus issues (LG G2). Hope that explains it a little better and compares it with every new phone out right now. I have owned all the phones and didn't mention the Lumia 1020 (great camera, terrible battery and OS missing apps), Xperia Z (love the waterproof but camera terrible, Xperia ZL, same as Z, S4 Active had excellent screen and all around better than the Sony Z line for me. iPhone 5s was same as 5 for me even tho I did like the fingerprint unlock and faster burst mode camera (but not worth the upgrade IMO). Have a good day.
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So exactly like we all were thinking... that we just bought the best phone to come out since the Note 2! NoteFTW!!!
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Techweed said:
Are you coming from a Note 2? I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it.
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I am. I've been watching people in the international N3 post what an "incremental" upgrade the N3 is over the N2. It's night and day. The look, feel, updated Samsung apps, the fluidity. I'm pretty happy. I haven't gotten it all set up yet and will post something more detailed once I do. I'm coming from an international N2 and was terrified what AT&T would do to their version. All of their apps can be disabled except for the Mobile Hotspot app which I'll need anyway. And I haven't found anything missing yet except the ability to disable the Mobile Data connection. So far so good.
Where are you guys getting the phone from? AT&T says I have to wait until tomorrow.
--Mike
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Where are you guys getting the phone from? AT&T says I have to wait until tomorrow.
--Mike
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I pre-ordered. It was delivered FedEx about 1:00PM today.
we got our stock and demos in last night.. im in love. considering selling my s4 for this badboy now.
it definitely feels super nice in my hand, compared to the note 2. my first thought was, it felt like the original galaxy s2, the squarish feel. didnt like it right away but it has grown on me.
how does that plastic leather feel in your hand? Looks so cheesy in pictures..
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how does that plastic leather feel in your hand? Looks so cheesy in pictures..
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i love this phone! also. i had it since OCT 2nd. and the pleather really does feel leathery . atleast ont he black version
This phone is most certainly an awesome upgrade. Just picked mine up last night in black. It's definitely more premium feeling as well, even though it's still plastic. Samsung did a great job with this device and i cant wait to start rooting and ROMing this phone out
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Well. So far so good. It's a whole new world for me. I left Sprint for At&T after being with them for years. I'm on my first real Samsung phone after having every HTC since the Hero. I'm liking this phone a lot so far...but I do hope root access is gained eventually. There is a lot of carrier bloatware crap on this phone I'd like to ditch.
Happy new phone day everyone! Woohoo, am I psyched to play with my new phone. Now if work would just stop getting in the way of me having fun....and there was a custom recovery and root access...that'll come in time though, I'm sure.
--Mike
I was amazed how light it is for the size, and the screen really pops. I look back at all the hand wringing about the PenTile display and realize how silly it was. Looks incredible.

[Poll and Discussion] HTC One M8 or Galaxy S5?

Which of the two do you prefer and why? I'd like to hear especially from those who have used both phones. I've used the M8 and was quite impressed, but haven't used the S5 yet.
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M8 hands down. Yes I have used both. If you really care so much about the camera, buy a digital camera. Yes the S5 has a far better camera. If that isn't of concern m8 is the clear winner in my opinion. The galaxy phones feel like they are made by playskool. You just can't beat the premium feel of an HTC device. Not on the feel but just overall quality & craftsmanship. It's such an easy pick for me. Sure there are some things I would have changed but last years m7 & the m8 are amazing.
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M8 hands down. Yes I have used both. If you really care so much about the camera, buy a digital camera. Yes the S5 has a far better camera. If that isn't of concern m8 is the clear winner in my opinion. The galaxy phones feel like they are made by playskool. You just can't beat the premium feel of an HTC device. Not on the feel but just overall quality & craftsmanship. It's such an easy pick for me. Sure there are some things I would have changed but last years m7 & the m8 are amazing.
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Yeah I agree about the camera. Nice to hear from someone who's used both and can see through the camera.
Sammy for me.
Better specs, better camera, removable battery, water-resistance. If I were choosing phones based on looks, I'd be posting on MacRumors right now.
ecksor said:
Sammy for me.
Better specs, better camera, removable battery, water-resistance. If I were choosing phones based on looks, I'd be posting on MacRumors right now.
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The main thing luring me to the M8 is the superior UI, and ART. Also, if the S5 doesn't ship with ART compatibility I won't even consider it (display models don't have the option). M8 also survived an hour underwater in some video I watched. On specs, I find the small difference negligible.
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The main thing luring me to the M8 is the superior UI, and ART. Also, if the S5 doesn't ship with ART compatibility I won't even consider it (display models don't have the option). M8 also survived an hour underwater in some video I watched. On specs, I find the small difference negligible.
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Wasn't there an image that surfaced from Korea showing the S5 with ART compatibility?
Heres the link: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/20/samsung-galaxy-s5-supports-the-new-android-runtime-art/
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Wasn't there an image that surfaced from Korea showing the S5 with ART compatibility?
Heres the link: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/20/samsung-galaxy-s5-supports-the-new-android-runtime-art/
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Thanks! I guess they disabled it on display models. Now I may give some consideration to the S5
I was hoping Samsung made a premium build phone as some of the innovative software is good but unfortunately they went with same old cheap band aid look plastic finish. Terrible but love their marketing almost convinces you to buy the damn thing even though it's plastic.
Camera is the only thing which I prefer the s5 over m8. Every other dept it's m8 looks feel and Looks again. Design finish and sense love it.
I hear ya. Unfortunately, there aren't any S5 displays in my area so I can't give them a good comparison. I've heard people say it's WAY better than they expected though.
S5, no question about it. I'm not going to pick a device simply because it's made out of metal. That's a bonus, sure...but when it's completely lacking in every other aspect, the metal body doesn't make up for it.
Well if you plan on flashing a ROM, the build is about all that matters (and camera). I still thing Sense 6 is ahead of TouchWiz though.
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riz157 said:
I was hoping Samsung made a premium build phone as some of the innovative software is good but unfortunately they went with same old cheap band aid look plastic finish. Terrible but love their marketing almost convinces you to buy the damn thing even though it's plastic.
Camera is the only thing which I prefer the s5 over m8. Every other dept it's m8 looks feel and Looks again. Design finish and sense love it.
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If i used the phone without protection i would agree with you but since I usually just buy a ballistic case or something to protect against falls (I drop it quite often, otherwise I wouldn't buy a case) I would get the plastic finish feel anyways. S5 for me
What is HTC? lol :silly:
dandroid13 said:
What is HTC? lol :silly:
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Wait what ?
Not sure what you're asking, but HTC stands for High Tech Computers.
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Wait what ?
Not sure what you're asking, but HTC stands for High Tech Computers.
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lol, I was just trying an irony...
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lol, I was just trying an irony...
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Haha I gotcha XD
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Ok so I went to a local AT&T store and used the M8 and S5 one in each hand for about 20 minutes tonight, and this is what I noticed (in a pros-cons list of each). Note I am 6'3" with pretty large hands. I didn't test the cameras, as 1. I don't use smartphone cameras and 2. We all know the S5's is way better. This is more subjective stuff with build, feel, and UI.
S5 Advantages:
-SCREEN!! The AMOLED screen on the S5 was absolutely gorgeous. I put the setting on "professional photography" or something like that, and everything looked absolutely superb. The M8's screen was also nice, but I liked the color on the AMOLED display much better (especially the whites).
-The lock button on the right side was very natural and comfortable to press. Much more so than on the M8.
-White model felt nice in the hand (not an advantage, but notable)
-Haptic feedback. This is probably adjustable, but the S5's was shorter and not as "deep". The M8 shook a little much for me.
M8 Advantages:
-Length and on screen buttons. With the S5, I found myself having to reach my thumb down a little too far to reach the buttons. On the M8, the buttons were in a perfect spot and were very pleasant to use.
-Motion gestures. It was very nice and natural to unlock the phone by swiping up when the screen was off.
(I put this post in a couple of threads because it is relevant).
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SolarTrans said:
Well if you plan on flashing a ROM, the build is about all that matters (and camera). I still thing Sense 6 is ahead of TouchWiz though.
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Not really -- The S5 has better specs in just about every single category compared to the M8.
-Weighs less
-Faster CPU
-Bigger/better display
-Better camera
-IP67 cert (Water/dust resistant)
-Better battery, which is also removable
-USB 3.0
The only thing that I feel the M8 has over the S5 is the metal body. Aside from that, I don't see the reason to pick a clearly inferior device. Of course, both are great devices, regardless. However, when compared, why would you go with the inferior device, especially if you planned to upgrade anyway?
Either way, to each their own. Everyone has different preferences
Everyone who is dissing on Samsung for the plastic really needs to try it out in person. I used to have an M7, so I know how amazing that and the M8 feel. But the S5 is nothing like the S3 or S4. It feels more like my Moto X than anything, minus the rubberized coating on the X. Very solid.
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Not really -- The S5 has better specs in just about every single category compared to the M8.
-Weighs less
-Faster CPU
-Bigger/better display
-Better camera
-IP67 cert (Water/dust resistant)
-Better battery, which is also removable
-USB 3.0
The only thing that I feel the M8 has over the S5 is the metal body. Aside from that, I don't see the reason to pick a clearly inferior device. Of course, both are great devices, regardless. However, when compared, why would you go with the inferior device, especially if you planned to upgrade anyway?
Either way, to each their own. Everyone has different preferences
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The CPU speed difference is so small it's most likely irrelevant in day to day use. Sense is less intensive, so they'll most likely run the same in day to day usage. Besides, I didn't notice a difference when I tried them. The other things are nice hardware bonuses, but the software and feel are more important to me. This is where I think HTC edges out Samsung (oh, and BoomSound). That, and I have no need for a better camera, IP67 (never get my phones wet/dusty), and USB 3.0 (I rarely hook up to the PC and if so only for flashing). So for my personal tastes, this leaves Samsung's hardware advantages at the battery (the M8's is also pretty killer though), screen, and weight. The M8's overall feel is just a little bit better for me. Not having to stretch so far for the buttons is big, and a skinnier body makes 1 handed use easier. To each their own, but for me the One just edges out the S5 (for now). There's still 4 days before my M8 ships, so I very well could change to the S5, but this is where I'm at right now.
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Stick with Xperia Z3 or move to Nexus 6P?

Everything is in the title, really!
I've been toying with the idea of keeping my Z3 and getting a tablet, before realising that I'd never actually USE a tablet. As a result, I've come to the conclusion that I should just get a slightly bigger phone and meet my demands half way.
I've always liked the Nexus phones, previously had a Nexus 5 that I loved, despite the not-so-great battery life. I went for the Z3 after my wife got the Z1 compact, just because of the battery life, and I've not been disappointed. I always get two days battery life in normal use, and around six hours screen time consistently.
However, the Nexus 6P has definitely caught my attention. The screen size is pretty much what I'm looking for, the battery size appears to be pretty much the same, and of course it looks lovely!
So, my question, Nexus 6P owners, is it worth changing, based on my needs, or do I stick to what I have? I've heard the battery life isn't quite as good as what I'm used to!
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Why not get a Z5 Premium? You would most likely get better battery life, camera and build quality all in a package that you are already used to with a bigger screen. Seems like a win-win to me.
I had a Z3 (which I do miss). The Nexus 6P is better in terms of updates, camera, speed, speakers, fingerprint scanner and ROMs/development if you're into that. Also, I get better cell reception with the 6P too, which could be due to band 12. The battery on the Z3 is better, but I have no problems getting through the day with my 6P, plus you have quick charging, so that's a plus.
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Ulver said:
I had a Z3 (which I do miss). The Nexus 6P is better in terms of updates, camera, speed, speakers, fingerprint scanner and ROMs/development if you're into that. Also, I get better cell reception with the 6P too, which could be due to band 12. The battery on the Z3 is better, but I have no problems getting through the day with my 6P, plus you have quick charging, so that's a plus.
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I have to ask, if everything is better on the 6P, why do you miss the Z3?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why not get a Z5 Premium? You would most likely get better battery life, camera and build quality all in a package that you are already used to with a bigger screen. Seems like a win-win to me.
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Weirdly, from what I've read on a few different sites now, the only thing that seems to be premium about the Z5 Premium is the price!
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I just miss the size sometimes, the overall feel, waterproof, dedicated camera button, and how bright the screen gets. The software on the Z3 isn't bad at all either.
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I just miss the size sometimes, the overall feel, waterproof, dedicated camera button, and how bright the screen gets. The software on the Z3 isn't bad at all either.
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It definitely is a nice phone. I really do find it interesting that despite the 6P being pretty superior in most regards, you still miss little things about the Z3!
I know the gold 6P is currently on sale in the UK, but I don't know if I could honestly drop the battery life in favour of the other things, despite the differences being fairly substantial!
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FlamingAngel82 said:
It definitely is a nice phone. I really do find it interesting that despite the 6P being pretty superior in most regards, you still miss little things about the Z3!
I know the gold 6P is currently on sale in the UK, but I don't know if I could honestly drop the battery life in favour of the other things, despite the differences being fairly substantial!
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I would wait and see what the Marshmallow update brings to the Z3.
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I had the T Mobile Z3, which was better than the others but lagged with updates. The 6p is a better phone in many ways, but I miss the size, water resistance, battery life, and noise canceling of the Z3. I'd probably still have the Z3 if it was getting updates.
I have heard good things about the Marshmallow concept, so perhaps as you've both said, its worth hanging on until the update is released to see if I want to stick with it.
Thanks for the opinions and thoughts though, guys. Much appreciated.
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FlamingAngel82 said:
Everything is in the title, really!
I've been toying with the idea of keeping my Z3 and getting a tablet, before realising that I'd never actually USE a tablet. As a result, I've come to the conclusion that I should just get a slightly bigger phone and meet my demands half way.
I've always liked the Nexus phones, previously had a Nexus 5 that I loved, despite the not-so-great battery life. I went for the Z3 after my wife got the Z1 compact, just because of the battery life, and I've not been disappointed. I always get two days battery life in normal use, and around six hours screen time consistently.
However, the Nexus 6P has definitely caught my attention. The screen size is pretty much what I'm looking for, the battery size appears to be pretty much the same, and of course it looks lovely!
So, my question, Nexus 6P owners, is it worth changing, based on my needs, or do I stick to what I have? I've heard the battery life isn't quite as good as what I'm used to!
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At this point in time, I would wait. Then get the HTC M10. I really wish I'd waited, I had the understanding that it was going to be a mediatek chipset. How wrong was I, big battery, water proof, sd820, 32GB with ext SD, decent camera (hopefully) and those boom sound speakers.
This is kind of make or break for HTC , I think its going to be a beast. Development will be superb too as it always is with flagship HTC devices.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the 6P its a stellar device but I'd have waited for the M10 If I'd have known.
Have had a few Sony devices and I find them a bit boring. On paper they're great but they're just not for me. My mate has the Z5 which he loves but its exactly the same as the older devices going back to the z1.
I like their tablets though
PS: my apologies, the size might not be what you need. Unless they release a plus version?
Tablets are a funny sort, you don't think you'll use them but then do once you have one. Everything looks great on a tablet, HD games (made for tablet) movies, web browsing.. Coupled with a fold away keyboard you'd be forgiven for thinking you werent using a laptop.
I use citrix with work and on my prime with keyboard and touchpad it looks amazing.
Your choice mate.
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At this point in time, I would wait. Then get the HTC M10. I really wish I'd waited, I had the understanding that it was going to be a mediatek chipset. How wrong was I, big battery, water proof, sd820, 32GB with ext SD, decent camera (hopefully) and those boom sound speakers.
This is kind of make or break for HTC , I think its going to be a beast. Development will be superb too as it always is with flagship HTC devices.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the 6P its a stellar device but I'd have waited for the M10 If I'd have known.
Have had a few Sony devices and I find them a bit boring. On paper they're great but they're just not for me. My mate has the Z5 which he loves but its exactly the same as the older devices going back to the z1.
I like their tablets though
PS: my apologies, the size might not be what you need. Unless they release a plus version?
Tablets are a funny sort, you don't think you'll use them but then do once you have one. Everything looks great on a tablet, HD games (made for tablet) movies, web browsing.. Coupled with a fold away keyboard you'd be forgiven for thinking you werent using a laptop.
I use citrix with work and on my prime with keyboard and touchpad it looks amazing.
Your choice mate.
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I do like HTC phones, the last one I had was the One X, and apart from the (quite frankly) terrible battery, it was a really nice phone! I know a couple of people with the M9, and it is a nice phone. I do prefer Android more stock though, Sense is quite heavily modified compared to some other manufacturers.
I had a Samsung S3 too, that was also nice, but I really hate Touchwiz.
There's something really nice about stock!
Thanks for that though, I'll have a look at the M10 when that's released. I'm sure I'll find the sweet spot sooner or later. I did have a tablet (Microsoft Surface), but just never turned it on. Didn't see the point when I had a phone that did the same but on a smaller screen!
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I do like HTC phones, the last one I had was the One X, and apart from the (quite frankly) terrible battery, it was a really nice phone! I know a couple of people with the M9, and it is a nice phone. I do prefer Android more stock though, Sense is quite heavily modified compared to some other manufacturers.
I had a Samsung S3 too, that was also nice, but I really hate Touchwiz.
There's something really nice about stock!
Thanks for that though, I'll have a look at the M10 when that's released. I'm sure I'll find the sweet spot sooner or later. I did have a tablet (Microsoft Surface), but just never turned it on. Didn't see the point when I had a phone that did the same but on a smaller screen!
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Why not just get the HTC nexus tablet then?
Also with OEM launchers / interfaces, sense for me is the best, its very well made and vanilla android always comes to HTC devices (I like to have the choice or I get bored)
Good luck all the same
dladz said:
Why not just get the HTC nexus tablet then?
Also with OEM launchers / interfaces, sense for me is the best, its very well made and vanilla android always comes to HTC devices (I like to have the choice or I get bored)
Good luck all the same
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I nearly did when they were on sale over Christmas... I can't seem to find one anywhere now! :/
Never mind, thanks for your input, and you're right, certainly as far as skins over Android go, Sense is definitely one of the nicest looking ones!
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I nearly did when they were on sale over Christmas... I can't seem to find one anywhere now! :/
Never mind, thanks for your input, and you're right, certainly as far as skins over Android go, Sense is definitely one of the nicest looking ones!
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Online and or the samsung shop in brent cross London had one the other week.
I'm sure other places have them.
Good luck mate

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