Well, hi there, nice people of the XDA forums,
I have been using my shiny new Z1 for a month now and here's my opinion on it. It is awesome. Good battery life, beautiful screen and build coming from a Xperia V user.
I've loved every second of using it after i got used to its large form.
Sadly, my Z1 has now been returned to the service centre since I bent it. I got to admit, when I first saw people posting images of their bent Z1s and saying that no external forces were imposed on the device, I was like "which dumb guy will believe that a phone made of aluminium would magically bend itself?", but after 1 month, unfortunately, I realised my Z1 was bent horizontally above the power button. It was hard to notice at first as I had it in a roxfit gel shell, I think that's what it is called, but when I removed the case, I had a huge shock.
Later that day, I sent my Z1 to my local Sony centre, I live in Singapore, and apparently, there have been many cases of this happening here but the lady was reluctant to tell me if the damages could be covered warranty.
So, here I am, writing this post to remind my fellow Z1 lovers to never ever ever put you phone in a region that is really tight and moves a lot, for example the pockets on your jeans, as you may come to regret it.
P.S. I'm just posting my experience with it so far, if I am on the wrong section, feel free to yell and get a mod to move it.
P.S.S I'll update this as the service centre gets back to me.
Timeline:
23/1/14 - Day 1 - Sent Z1 to service centre.
25/1/14 - Day 3 - Received email that service centre has started repairs
20/2/14 - Day 28 - Finally, after a lot of emails between me and Sony and even longer waiting time for emails, Sony has finally got back to me.
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I'm using my Z1 for a month now and no bent phone, nothing, I'm using it with no case amd in my jeans with that protective thing on my glass
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strange that most people with bend phone where putting cases while ppl who go naked are straight !
Do you happened to have any pictures?
ashouhdy said:
while ppl who go naked are straight !
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Are you sure :sly:
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Well I'm straight, so this makes sense now
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did op say he bent his phone?
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This cant be life
Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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Aaron_035 said:
Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY
sruba209 said:
isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY
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Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.
Aaron_035 said:
Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.
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Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Are you sure :sly:
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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I've neen through quite a few phones, a W595, W995, iPhone 3G (unfortunately), a Galaxy S2 (also unfortunate), arc, arc s, V, then finally my Z1.
And ironically, I've only sustained serious damage in the last 2 phones, ie, the V's flaps coming off and, of course, my z1 bending. Funny how as time passes, their life spans decrease.
Day 4 Update - 26/1/14
Well Sony finally got back to me to tell me:
1. Frame bending is nor under warranty
2. I have to replace the screen
3. It will cost me SGD$405 or USD$320
Being the broke student I am, I'll probably sell my z! then buy a nexus 5.
Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
After a long long time with Sony, this has been a major bite in the ass.
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Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
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Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down
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Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down
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I guess that's that then. Nothing much I can do about it other than be furious and then cry myself to sleep.
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be furious and then cry myself to sleep.
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On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.
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On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.
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It still works. By my calculations, I cant afford a nexus 5 even if i sold the z1 at half the retail price, which means I'm stuck with a banana phone for 11 months. Guess I'll just put a book on it or something until the phone returns to the normal shape or until the screen shatters.
Will update. :/
i don't know what to say... this bending thing is wierd...
i bought my z1 from singapore over ebay and i have it for two month now. i keep it in my jeans front pocket the whole day, sometimes i have my GF sit on my lap and on the phone and it's still straight as an arrow... i have a soft tpu case protecting it...
i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...
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i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...
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Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.
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Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.
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net nessecerly... if the aluminum frame is made by chipping it can be made is a bad way causing internal forces inside the aluminum, these forces need not 500 degrees to alter it's shape, i'm not talking about the frame melting.
just a small temperature, 50-60 degrees is enough to give the frame the energy it takes to relive these internal forces and bend itself...
this is why i said manufacturing fault, because if some of the frames were made in one factory which did the chipping wrong and others in another which did it right it can explain why some devices bend and some don't. and it has nothing to do with external pressure...
if you want to google go for "strain tensor"
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Hey guys,
Title says it all tbh, so are they still present in new batches? Should i hold off and wait for a while?
dinesh690 said:
Hey guys,
Title says it all tbh, so are they still present in new batches? Should i hold off and wait for a while?
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Look for one that has a SSN# that starts with C8OK... The number should be outside the box. Those are the newest batches and I bought 2 that are flawless right out the box.
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Look for one that has a SSN# that starts with C8OK... The number should be outside the box. Those are the newest batches and I bought 2 that are flawless right out the box.
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Where did you purchase from?
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Where did you purchase from?
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Walmart
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Good question. Just ordered one from Tesco in UK as a present for someone.
Also, if you root it, and have a fault develop, can you unroot without a problem with warranty?
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Hey guys,
Title says it all tbh, so are they still present in new batches? Should i hold off and wait for a while?
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I'm still waiting. People are reporting C8s with screen lift, although it seems to be less frequent now than before.
Sorry for not citing specific posts, but I am following user reports closely and it is still happening.
It's possible that new units are being inspected more thoroughly but no other measures have been taken. That would make the defect harder to spot, lowering the reported incidence rate, but would do nothing to actually solidify the left side.
I would also be skeptical of anyone who claims that their unit is flawless who doesn't post a picture. This may sound paranoid, but there have been users who claimed their device was perfect until they posted a photo of a unit with screen separation.
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Look for one that has a SSN# that starts with C8OK... The number should be outside the box. Those are the newest batches and I bought 2 that are flawless right out the box.
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Sorry for doubting you, but would you mind posting a photo of the horizon test? I've gotten three bad units and I'm waiting to repurchase.
To check if your screen is lifting, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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I'm still waiting. People are reporting C8s with screen lift, although it seems to be less frequent now than before.
Sorry for not citing specific posts, but I am following user reports closely and it is still happening.
It's possible that new units are being inspected more thoroughly but no other measures have been taken. That would make the defect harder to spot, lowering the reported incidence rate, but would do nothing to actually solidify the left side.
I would also be skeptical of anyone who claims that their unit is flawless who doesn't post a picture. This may sound paranoid, but there have been users who claimed their device was perfect until they posted a photo of a unit with screen separation.
Sorry for doubting you, but would you mind posting a photo of the horizon test? I've gotten three bad units and I'm waiting to repurchase.
To check if your screen is lifting, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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Here is mine. Im not as picky as most on a $250 purchase, but for me it looks flawless. You tell me.
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Received my nexus on the 24th and it has a C80K SN, although it doesn't have screen lift or separation, it does have screen flicker at low brightness
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Here is mine. Im not as picky as most on a $250 purchase, but for me it looks flawless. You tell me.
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All of these are from the right portrait side, correct?
The first one isn't very clear. The second looks fine. But in the third one the bezel seems to disappear under the ASUS logo.
Why do you think that is?
I am on #5 now since 7/14
1st C6 - would turn off at 20% "show low low battery logo" even after calibrating bad battery? Perfect screen, exchanged
2nd C7 - bad left side screen separation/lift, exchanged
3rd C7 - dust under the screen, 2 spots , exchanged
4th C7- minor left side screen seperation/lift, just started doing the death at 20% exactly like the first C6 I had for no reason today, have had it since last Sunday and had been charging/decharging fine, just sent my wife to exchange it again. I am sure Gamestop is sick of us by now. Said it is a C8 I will edit how it turns out. Considering I am 4 for 4 with issues, I am just hoping no lift and the battery doesn't act stupid after a week or two or I'm calling it quits on this one.
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All of these are from the right portrait side, correct?
The first one isn't very clear. The second looks fine. But in the third one the bezel seems to disappear under the ASUS logo.
Why do you think that is?
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As a matter of fact, the bezel does disappear at the center. I guess my C8OK does have some screen lift. But does that minor issue warrant a return? I would say hell no. If something as minor as this would discourage you as a buyer then you might have other issues.
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Well my C8 has lift on the left hand side, not as bad as first C7 I had, but worse than the last.
Screen seems fine otherwise no dead pixels or dust , but obviously there is no special fix as some people keep speculating, I'm 5 for 5 now with defects
** I actually just opened it up to tighten the screws see if it would help, two screws are missing along the left side. I swear Asus needs to hire some better monkeys over in that chinese plant, I'm done taking it back for refund. Maybe around tax time they will have ironed this out
Its amazing that they cant figure out something. My c70k is having screen lift as well
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Well my C8 has lift on the left hand side, not as bad as first C7 I had, but worse than the last.
Screen seems fine otherwise no dead pixels or dust , but obviously there is no special fix as some people keep speculating, I'm 5 for 5 now with defects
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As a matter of fact, the bezel does disappear at the center. I guess my C8OK does have some screen lift. But does that minor issue warrant a return? I would say hell no. If something as minor as this would discourage you as a buyer then you might have other issues.
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Thank you for clarifying.
If you decide to look further into the matter you will find that the physical presence of a little lift isn't the concern.
These displays have a low stress tolerance and aren't designed to be flexed at all during use. If your screen isn't securely fastened to the case, that means it will be bending even if you don't notice it, and that runs the risk of cracking the screen.
It's not a death sentence by any means, but the risk is there no matter how minor the lift appears to be. Also, there is a tendency for the separation to spread over time. The adhesive bonding the display to the left side of the case is already failing. This adhesive is flimsy and sensitive to heat according to the teardowns people have conducted.
I would not advise you to keep that (those?) units if you're going to be dealing with ASUS worst case scenario. It might be worth keeping a unit with screen lift under the Play store warranty depending on how they choose to handle these issues, but you don't want to deal with ASUS.
Sorry about the bad news.
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Well my C8 has lift on the left hand side, not as bad as first C7 I had, but worse than the last.
Screen seems fine otherwise no dead pixels or dust , but obviously there is no special fix as some people keep speculating, I'm 5 for 5 now with defects
** I actually just opened it up to tighten the screws see if it would help, two screws are missing along the left side. I swear Asus needs to hire some better monkeys over in that chinese plant, I'm done taking it back for refund. Maybe around tax time they will have ironed this out
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I guess I'll keep waiting then. Thanks for reporting.
pxlitup said:
Thank you for clarifying.
If you decide to look further into the matter you will find that the physical presence of a little lift isn't the concern. These displays have a low stress tolerance and aren't designed to be flexed even a little during use. If your screen isn't securely fastened to the case, that means it will be bending even if you don't notice it, and that runs the risk of cracking the screen.
It's not a death sentence by any means, but the risk is there no matter how minor the lift appears to be. Also, there is a tendency for the separation to spread over time. The adhesive bonding the display to the left side of the case is already failing. This adhesive is flimsy and sensitive to heat according to the teardowns people have conducted.
I would not advise you to keep that (those?) units if you're going to be dealing with ASUS worst case scenario. It might be worth keeping a unit with screen lift under the Play store warranty depending on how they choose to handle these issues, but you don't want to deal with ASUS.
Sorry about the bad news.
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Its not bad news at all. Your view is a dooms day view. Like most items they all will suffer from wear and tear and eventually you're going to have to say goodbye to your little gadget. Even if you get a perfect one, who's to say it won't lift in a few weeks or months? Like I mentioned before, I only paid $250 for them and in a year from now they're be worth even less.
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So you returning it?
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Just sent the wife back out with it , could have possibly lived with it had the screws not been missing inside. My C6's screen was seated flawless, really sad the battery was funky with it. I'm sick of settling for defective out of the box crap with Asus they can eat another return
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Just sent the wife back out with it , could have possibly lived with it had the screws not been missing inside. My C6's screen was seated flawless, really sad the battery was funky with it. I'm sick of settling for defective out of the box crap with Asus they can eat another return
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How do you open it up?
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I use a very small #0 flathead and pry open near the headphone jack, once you get one of the clips up it just unsnaps the whole way around very easy.
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Its not bad news at all. Your view is a dooms day view. Like most items they all will suffer from wear and tear and eventually you're going to have to say goodbye to your little gadget. Even if you get a perfect one, who's to say it won't lift in a few weeks or months? Like I mentioned before, I only paid $250 for them and in a year from now they're be worth even less.
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Don't mistake my motives. I'm glad that you are happy with your purchase.
I'm only notifying you of the possible risks, which I believe warrant a mention since they do exceed the concerns of normal wear and tear.
Remember that internationally this tablet can cost much more than you or I paid for it. It's important for people to be able to make an informed decision about whether or not to purchase it, and you being honest about your screen inspection, even though you think I'm being OCD, was very helpful in that regard. You would be surprised at how many people believe facts are subjective when tech company loyalties come into play.
Hopefully your tablets won't give you any trouble. Your lift is certainly not as severe as many of the units from July that are still going strong.
Finished a training ride today...reached into my jersey pocket to call home andddd it slips and lands on the corner.
2 months old only. Damn. :/ Hurts my pocket for sure as I saved up and finally moved on from a GNexus 2 years later. (<--I'm a student)
Feast your eyes on broken glass (LCD still works but the digitizer which is bonded to the glass is broken). Sony quoted me 50% of the cost of the phone just to replace and repair it. That's not worth it IMHO. Sigh. Guess I'll just sell it for parts and go hunting for a 2nd hand phone......
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it looks pretty bad..
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it looks pretty bad..
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i'm a total idiot. WHY DID I LET THE PHONE SLIP?!!??!!!
Yeah i'm SoL. Parents aren't offering any support so I'm most likely going to
sell this for parts on CTO if anybody wants it and just see what kind of replacement phone I can get.
The new Meizu or Xiaomi looks quite nice. :/ Won't be able to afford anything expensive
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The new Meizu or Xiaomi looks quite nice. :/ Won't be able to afford anything expensive
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hmm. it'll be like riding a donkey rather than a horse...
damn it looks bad
Sorry for the loss, but I gotta ask.. How did u get the dialer and clock on the same screen.
Ps. You could get a replacement screen and fix it yourself
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Sorry for the loss, but I gotta ask.. How did u get the dialer and clock on the same screen.
Ps. You could get a replacement screen and fix it yourself
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Thats the lock screen (pin lock)
I could...but the cost isn't too far off from an official repair ($100US) but even if I fixed the screen I loose the water resistance because as you can see there's a chunk of the bottom left frame missing
Ouch! That took quite a hit what type of surface did you drop it on? Hope you find a solution soon.
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Ouch! That took quite a hit what type of surface did you drop it on? Hope you find a solution soon.
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I'm 5.7" so roughly from 5.5" height?
Went straight corner down to concrete. There was a crunch *ouch :/
It looked ok though until I powered on the screen and it wouldn't respond.
It's actually easy to fix, check online for spare parts. They sell the body for 30 euro's and the screen varies
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Sorry to hear that, such a shame. Check out Amazon. I noticed some spares kicking up on there a few days ago. Screens and bodies.
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Finished a training ride today...reached into my jersey pocket to call home andddd it slips and lands on the corner.
2 months old only. Damn. :/ Hurts my pocket for sure as I saved up and finally moved on from a GNexus 2 years later. (<--I'm a student)
Feast your eyes on broken glass (LCD still works but the digitizer which is bonded to the glass is broken). Sony quoted me 50% of the cost of the phone just to replace and repair it. That's not worth it IMHO. Sigh. Guess I'll just sell it for parts and go hunting for a 2nd hand phone......
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Did you have it in any kind of TPU/GEL/hard case?
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Did you have it in any kind of TPU/GEL/hard case?
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The phone's naked, if there's any protection, it'll not end up like this, very sorry to hear about your phone
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JasonX199 said:
It's actually easy to fix, check online for spare parts. They sell the body for 30 euro's and the screen varies
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Sorry to hear that, such a shame. Check out Amazon. I noticed some spares kicking up on there a few days ago. Screens and bodies.
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I did check. Final cost would bring me to roughly the same price or just a little cheaper than an official repair.....
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The phone's naked, if there's any protection, it'll not end up like this, very sorry to hear about your phone
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Indeed. I kept it naked because I had the charging dock and I didn't want to deal with taking the case on and off all the time. I should've gotten one. Phone landed corner first which is why the damage is like this. If it was flat on the back it might have taken it better
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Finished a training ride today...reached into my jersey pocket to call home andddd it slips and lands on the corner.
2 months old only. Damn. :/ Hurts my pocket for sure as I saved up and finally moved on from a GNexus 2 years later. (<--I'm a student)
Feast your eyes on broken glass (LCD still works but the digitizer which is bonded to the glass is broken). Sony quoted me 50% of the cost of the phone just to replace and repair it. That's not worth it IMHO. Sigh. Guess I'll just sell it for parts and go hunting for a 2nd hand phone......
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What is Samsung now paying students to write bad stuff about Sony? It looks a bit too much chipped off if it only fell from your pocket.. unless you're 2,5m tall.
Sidd_9 said:
What is Samsung now paying students to write bad stuff about Sony? It looks a bit too much chipped off if it only fell from your pocket.. unless you're 2,5m tall.
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THIS PHONE ISN'T AS DURABLE AS YOU THOUGHT, KID.
The digitiser of mine is broken and I didn't even drop it. It's because of the heat from CPU instead according to many shops that I went to.
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THIS PHONE ISN'T AS DURABLE AS YOU THOUGHT, KID. .
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Idk man I've dropped this phone into my kick drum whilst recording, ive dropped it on concrete, tile, no scratches, may just be the fact that this guy was unlucky enough to have it land DIRECTLY on the corner which is really ouch.
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THIS PHONE ISN'T AS DURABLE AS YOU THOUGHT, KID.
The digitiser of mine is broken and I didn't even drop it. It's because of the heat from CPU instead according to many shops that I went to.
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KID's news-flash for you - heat always makes anything less durable. So no, don't leave your phone in the sun or don't try to power the processor above what was factory made.
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KID's news-flash for you - heat always makes anything less durable. So no, don't leave your phone in the sun or don't try to power the processor above what was factory made.
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i dropped my phone while i was climbing some mountains , fell on rocks an gravel from pocket hight and bounced 1 time ( i am 1.82 m ) and only got a small small scratch... it looks like your phone was thrown to the ground :\ sorry for your loss mate
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Finished a training ride today...reached into my jersey pocket to call home andddd it slips and lands on the corner.
2 months old only. Damn. :/ Hurts my pocket for sure as I saved up and finally moved on from a GNexus 2 years later. (<--I'm a student)
Feast your eyes on broken glass (LCD still works but the digitizer which is bonded to the glass is broken). Sony quoted me 50% of the cost of the phone just to replace and repair it. That's not worth it IMHO. Sigh. Guess I'll just sell it for parts and go hunting for a 2nd hand phone......
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Just send in my z1 for water damage after going to the pool 2 days back.. Had no idea how can water went to Sim port and micro SD port when I'm using casemate tough dual layer protective case.. And there's small water droplets around the camera lens..
Still not sure will they honor the warranty or gonna push the blame to me.. Will only know the outcome tomorrow..
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Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?
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Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?
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Because i bought it from a guy, but if the problem still this week, i will go with the guy that a bought it and claim the warranty.
I didn't freeze the camera app, i only disable button launch on options.
Lets see how the phone do this week.
I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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Does your imei still retains after changing the whole pcb?
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Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.
jancarlos1597 said:
Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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Tomorrow i will go to claim the warranty, is anoying, i can't use the phone at all...
All I can say about my Z1 is that it's honestly been the best phone I've ever had. The screen is good, camera is great, build quality is amazing. I haven't had any problems with it.
Some Z1's do leak but mine has been great. I was taking pictures in a pool and I dropped it, it went to the bottom (deeper than what its rated at) and its fine.
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
by the way, are you Cantonese bud?
This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?
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New imei given with the number on the job status form.
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Wow. Seems like this phone isn't that waterproof. At least they fix it for free.
To the people who have water damage: Do you open and close the USB cover frequently? Or do you use a dock? The cover might have just gotten loose.
That is weird I was in Mexico and went in the ocean and pool with it and no problems
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This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?
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Prolly need to open the screen. Seems like water went in between the screen and digitizer... Anyways at first look it looked like a theme. Had to stare for a few seconds before I could see the fault.
I think that bending is a big contributing part of the water damage. I have had mine in a fair bit of water, reasonably deep, say 1m max, for most of it I had no problems... But I bent it ever so slightly (0.25mm) somehow (check out how many complaints are about z1's bending, the alum. bends on drops, and slight pressure) and because of that water got in (not into sim slots etc)... Anywho, it fixed up shortly after, and I did bend it back the other way so it was straight again, and shortly after checked the waterproofness, to find that it was watertight again (very slight pressure to bend it back, the alum. is sooo malleable) ... and now it's just died, permanently, because it's bent again(it once again is bent about 0.25mm) it will still boot if i apply pressure to it, so presumably it's some kind of power connector which has broken solder or something. It's a real shame because otherwise the phone is great, they just bend so easily, heaps of threads on the net about it if you guys aren't aware, which means it's not sealed properly.
I've never broken a phone before, I'm very careful, borderline paranoid about the way I treat my phones.
my friend get fog on camera after using many time.
but still working on until now.
n my z1 not yet go to pool but i have many time wash it.
Personally I see this water proofing as just another level of insurance for when I use my phone around water,
I don't plan on using it in the water. Its sad in a way because I have other water proof devices (watches, Canon D1) and use them all the time in the water with out any fear. I guess a cell is more important to me so i just rather not take the risk even with the IP58 certification.
It is a bit frustrating I am sure for many people who bought the phone and planned on using it in the water as advertised by Sony and are now having problems.
I had a Otterbox Armor which was water proof for my Samsung S3 but I also never actually took it in the water it was more just insurance.
I got the Z1 knowing i would be around water and wanted to keep the phone slim but still protected in-case it gets splashed.
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never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
by the way, are you Cantonese bud?
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Yes.. I'm Cantonese.. Can tell from my surname.. [emoji14]
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My original M8 suffered from the infamous cloudy camera. I got it replaced by T-Mobile, and it's been maybe three months now and the replacement M8 did the same. My buddies M8 started to do the same thing about a month ago, and he used Zaino Wax to buff out the camera cloudyness away.
I noticed yesterday that mine was doing the same thing again when I tried to take a picture and it wasn't focusing. Tried to clean it, and at first I just thought it was dirty. Picture wasn't important, so I ignored it. Then last night I went to get a drink with a buddy of mine, and tried to take a picture, and the camera wasn't focusing. Tried to clean it again, and that's when I noticed the cloudy camera again.
So I woke up this morning, found some turtle wax, put some on a terry cloth, rubbed a little on the lens, let it dry for a couple of minutes, and then buffed it off. Sure enough, it started to take some of the cloudyness away. So I did it again about three more times, and now the cloudyness is down to the edges. I was excited that it worked, that I ran over to my laptop to make this thread.
I was thinking about getting another replacement, but this is a better alternative for me. I don't want to be setting up my phone all over again every few months for the same issue.
This is what I used.
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I found the Mr. Clean Magic eraser to work very well too. I actually prefer the eraser because there is no risk of water getting under the lens. You squeeze it all out before rubbing
Toothpaste works too. I just put a dab on the end of my finger and rubbed the lens in a circular motion for a bit. Cleared up all but the edges which don't seem to bother anything. My guess is if I used a Q-Tip instead of my fat finger I could get the edges clean too.
I had the same problem and I used toothpaste. But my concern is whether we have rubbed off the anti glare coating?
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I had the same problem and I used toothpaste. But my concern is whether we have rubbed off the anti glare coating?
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I followed a guide and used a tiny amount of Brasso on the end of a cotton bud, it's like the phone's brand new again. Like you, I'm concerned I've removed something which should be there but the camera was unusable prior to doing this. Mine was bought in April, has been in a case, screen protector applied since day 1, handled with constant, real care but the scratches on the lens were something else!
Pictures of the lens pre clean here and also 3 very quick shots from the phone pre and 3 post clean... Was in a rush so had no artistic quality to them whatsoever!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157645558003205/
HTC recognise this is a real issue and are taking devices in for repair. Mine is being collected today. I'll let ya know what they do to fix this when I get it back
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HTC recognise this is a real issue and are taking devices in for repair. Mine is being collected today. I'll let ya know what they do to fix this when I get it back
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Wasn't aware of that to be honest but thanks for the update, what did they say to you regarding this issue specifically?
Cheers...
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Wasn't aware of that to be honest but thanks for the update, what did they say to you regarding this issue specifically?
Cheers...
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I said that the coating on the lens was rubbing off and there is a lot of discussion online about it, so its not just mine. The HTC rep said "yeah we know, we had a meeting about it today, just send it in and we'll take care of it". I asked what the coating was, olephobic? He said he wouldn't say and wouldn't comment on what the course of action is. I thought, ok, as long as you fix it I thats all that matters.
I guess they will replace the lens glass with something other that what came out of the factory. No point in putting the same thing back on there. He probably couldn't comment as this will effect every single One M8 which means they would all have to be recalled. Expensive!
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
https://www.youtube.com/embed/09k9t3Y2BJg
flayzeraynx said:
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
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That's the video I watched and got the idea from prior to doing mine.So far... so good but it's only been a day, see how the lens holds up after prolonged "quick rub before the shot" with shirts, jumpers, sleeves, all the normal day to day stuff.
You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
Great! Thanks for the fix. I just tested out the wax thing and it worked perfectly !
Toothpaste is the best solution, I tried and is like new!
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You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
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To each their own. But it's hardly idiocy. It's simply a minor design issue. Mine has scratches on and focuses and shoots perfectly fine.
As for reboots and connectivity issues, these are things any manufacturer can have, but I wouldn't take the bandaid phone over a HTC One even if the HTC One had no camera at all.
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To each their own. But it's hardly idiocy. It's simply a minor design issue. Mine has scratches on and focuses and shoots perfectly fine.
As for reboots and connectivity issues, these are things any manufacturer can have, but I wouldn't take the bandaid phone over a HTC One even if the HTC One had no camera at all.
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The Purple/Pink tint issue was the likely BIGGEST camera fiasco the mobile industry has ever seen, and it cost HTC tons of money and hurt their reputation badly. You can find countless threads here and elsewhere about it
And then they completely drop the ball on the NEW phone and allow another camera issue?? If it were a "minor" issue, they wouldn't be taking them back for repair no questions asked.
It's obviously a widespread debacle, and not only that - they should have listened to the previous One (M7) owners as they had an issue with the CHEAP camera glass cover on the M7 which cracked for NO reason at all and was easily scratched.
Choosing to ignore that issue and causing themselves another heartache on their flagship phone is idiocy IMO. What would you call it?
What if i cant that in my area do i can use my own
Just kidding mate :good::good: Thanks for the idea
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I said that the coating on the lens was rubbing off and there is a lot of discussion online about it, so its not just mine. The HTC rep said "yeah we know, we had a meeting about it today, just send it in and we'll take care of it". I asked what the coating was, olephobic? He said he wouldn't say and wouldn't comment on what the course of action is. I thought, ok, as long as you fix it I thats all that matters.
I guess they will replace the lens glass with something other that what came out of the factory. No point in putting the same thing back on there. He probably couldn't comment as this will effect every single One M8 which means they would all have to be recalled. Expensive!
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How did your repair go? Ironically I should have just looked on here. I had noticed this same scratched camera coating though my phone has been in a case since Day 1, is always in a pocket with no other items and I never place it on tables, etc. The chat guy says that cosmetic is typically not covered but in this case we'll cover it. I ship my phone and get an email two days later that the repair will cost $300 if I want the camera fixed. Or I can choose not to fix it but will have to pay administrative costs? Ugh.. would have not bothered if the chat guy hadn't literally said most cosmetic is not covered but we will cover this repair. Plus of course I've been without a phone for a week now but would have not bothered if it's gonna end up costing me $40. Poor form HTC..
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How did your repair go? Ironically I should have just looked on here. I had noticed this same scratched camera coating though my phone has been in a case since Day 1, is always in a pocket with no other items and I never place it on tables, etc. The chat guy says that cosmetic is typically not covered but in this case we'll cover it. I ship my phone and get an email two days later that the repair will cost $300 if I want the camera fixed. Or I can choose not to fix it but will have to pay administrative costs? Ugh.. would have not bothered if the chat guy hadn't literally said most cosmetic is not covered but we will cover this repair. Plus of course I've been without a phone for a week now but would have not bothered if it's gonna end up costing me $40. Poor form HTC..
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If you call and complain and talk to a supervisor they will do it for free and expedite.
flayzeraynx said:
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
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Try with a pencil eraser..
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You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
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Auto reboot and connectivity issue?
I use until now never face either.
Man that was awesome ! Took many pictures and video I took a swim for 2 to 3 hours today. Took it out for a 30 minute breaks twice, it works great! One thing to be aware about is your speaker will sound muffled for a good 3 to 4 hours! At least mine did glad sound came back had me worried there for a momment. Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?!
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I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.
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I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.
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Yeah lol that's what I did I used thevolume button and it worked great. As of now phone is functioning properly. Not worried about what happens a week from now to it because I'm not worried, as I was fully confident my phone will handle being submerged into the pool and water slide with the only problem being my speaker. I didn't however realize it will take 4 hours for the speaker to dry.
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Already a similar post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/help/phone-underwater-t3337471
Basically it's good for 30 minutes to 5 feet of water.
Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...a-lense-proximity-sensor-no-longer-works.html
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Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
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I think they don't want people deep sea diving and trying to warranty their phone when it does get water in it. I have personally took a shower letting the water hit the phone while trying to install a screen protector. Phone was fine honestly, even did my gear s2 the same way. Only problem I noticed was the speaker and microphone not working after for an hour or so
I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.
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I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.
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Yeah I know lol. People not having the balls to do it themselves think there phone will mess up? Hahaha haha yeah sure because I've heard of peoples s7 edge not working after a water test. "It voids warranty ???? Yada Yada Yada" who cares. I have not onces had to return any phone for a warranty exchange. And with a water resistant phone you think we don't want to use it under water? If you don't have the balls big enough than don't do it. I could care less. Letting people know that YOU CAN SWIM WITH YOUR S7/S7 EDGE if you choose to do so.
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Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?! View attachment 3772861
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That's irresponsible to claim this when there are many examples of the S7edge getting water damaged. I'm glad yours didn't get water damaged. Now don't be a **** about it.
Used my device in the pool a few wks ago also no issues. Speaker sounded like $&jt for a few hrs but after a while sounded normal. One thing to plan ahead is u wont be able to charge device soon after its submerged as it will throw a moisture detection msg and u'll have to wait till its completely dry. Or u can do what i did n use a blow dryer to expidite the dryness. Lol. Just dont fry ur phone.
I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.
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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.
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Lol 750 is a lot to me too bro. I babied this phone for the first month. After that I used it without case lol have nicks around my phone but I'm not trippin. Your phone wouldn't damage man take a shower or go surfing with it you'll be golden I'm not sure I'll swim to the bottom of the ocean for the phone though. It's cool to be cautious. I had that mentality it'll brush away soon lol
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I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.
I just came back from a whole week cruise vacation, and let me tell you! this phone is awesome every day pictures in the pool under water and phone works without any issues, like before make sure you dont go too deep.
Mine went for a trip in the washing machine last night for about 30 minutes before I realized it and took it out. Works perfect. Speaker took about a day to dry out, but over all I'm damn impressed.
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Oh BTW it's been 11 days, have not had a single problem
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I just got back from a trip into the mountains around Boone NC. I did a lot of fishing and river tubing with my phone in my pocket the whole time. I didn't use the phone under water but it was in my pocket while I fished the Watauga with the water up to my armpits. I did see a popup on the phone about water being detected but haven't experienced any issues the phone. I got some good pictures and video that couldn't have been gotten even with my go pro as the sound with the phone is perfect. I took a chance but in this case it was worth it.
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I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.
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No, it isn't. It is manufactured to withstand a certain water immersion depth and length of time in a static environment. Actually using it, ie: moving it under water, pressing buttons, etc can easily go outside of the specifications. Not to mention it is in no way rated for underwater use, its water resistance is designed for some protection against accidental exposure.
Point is this, it is your device and you should use it as you please. But to suggest that it is in any way ok or that it is designed to do so is extremely irresponsible on your part. For starters it is wrong, and your warranty will be voided should any water immersion be detected. I'm pretty sure there are indicators built in for Samsung to know what you did.