So out of curiousity, how does the controller decide when to sleep/wake up? It seems like every few minutes of inactivity (say I'm watching a movie and I want to turn down the volume) I need to long press the button in the middle to get the controller to turn on/pair, which all takes about 5-6s, which isn't always convenient (or say pause the movie if someone calls).
Is there a way to increase the timeout or turn it off completely via some software trick? I'm fine with running the batteries down, I will just recharge them when necessary.
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So out of curiousity, how does the controller decide when to sleep/wake up? It seems like every few minutes of inactivity (say I'm watching a movie and I want to turn down the volume) I need to long press the button in the middle to get the controller to turn on/pair, which all takes about 5-6s, which isn't always convenient (or say pause the movie if someone calls).
Is there a way to increase the timeout or turn it off completely via some software trick? I'm fine with running the batteries down, I will just recharge them when necessary.
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You know, I was having the same issues until I figured something out. I don't believe the controller goes to sleep immediately even after 5 min of non-use. If I turn it on for the first time today, I have to long press like you described. But lets say I set it down and watch a show on netflix or listen to a song. Whether I set the controller down for 5 min, or 30 min, the next time I need to wake it up, all I have to do is press the home button once. Not a long press, a regular press - which in turn wakes it up. Now, If I don't use the controller again till the next day, it will need a long press...hope this helps.
It's like shortly after use it goes to sleep with an instant on feature, but after an extended period of time it shuts down.
The CTRLR timeout is after about 2min of inactivity. If its gone to sleep, you can usually wake it up with single tap of Home button. If it doesn't wake up, you can do the press and hold Home button for 5 seconds to turn on.
Bonus tip: Press and hold Home button for 1 sec brings up the Recent Apps screen.
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Bonus tip: Press and hold Home button for 1 sec brings up the Recent Apps screen.
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:good: It's a great feature, I use it a lot, even in gamesmart mode it works!
Shame you have to switch to mouse mode to select an app.. is there any chance of better navigating the android UI in gamesmart mode in the new Android 4.4?
@vostok4 thanks for the post
@mherma thanks for explaining how this works
I was doing long press every time I wanted to use the controller. Was getting frustrated with this and started to wonder if there was a way to disable sleep mode on the controller. The short press seems to work
It would still be nice if there was a way to customize how long you need to wait until the controller goes to sleep.
moved to Constantly Updating List of Wanted Features :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49857945&postcount=18
And I don't know how to delete a post
@paulobrien,
I came across your review, Nice! ( http://www.modaco.com/topic/368609-review-mad-catz-mojo/ )
The controller switches itself into standby when not in use to save power, when the power / home button will glow red (it's normally blue). Switching the controller out of standby seems to be something of a black art, it doesn't 'wake up' as quick as I'd like, but after a few weeks of use i've got used to it.
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The CTRLR timeout is after about 2min of inactivity. If its gone to sleep, you can usually wake it up with single tap of Home button. If it doesn't wake up, you can do the press and hold Home button for 5 seconds to turn on.
Bonus tip: Press and hold Home button for 1 sec brings up the Recent Apps screen.
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I keep the thumbscrew on my at all times, for fear of losing it to.
I agree about the mode switch being difficult at times.
For comparison purposes, a Nvidia Shield is currently £279.99, also on Amazon UK and shares pretty much the same internals but adds a screen. You'd probably want a HDMI cable to play it on your TV.
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You'd need a bluetooth controller for that 'similar experience' :laugh:
They are similar experience, but how you get there is night and day.
Ie, Yeah, the shield has HDMI out, I have a hacked PSP with tv out, but I could never be bothered setting it up (A/V and power).
And the same with my tablet with HDMI out, did it a few times mostly for movies.
IMO, the mojo is convenient for TV topset box, desktop gaming and moga style gaming, all ready to go out of a single box (with exceptions lol).
Actually, I wrote on my blog about all the 2013 micro-consoles, and none were perfect out of the box experiences either.
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The CTRLR timeout is after about 2min of inactivity. If its gone to sleep, you can usually wake it up with single tap of Home button. If it doesn't wake up, you can do the press and hold Home button for 5 seconds to turn on.
Bonus tip: Press and hold Home button for 1 sec brings up the Recent Apps screen.
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Hey, what does holding down start do?
I noticed it disables the controller for a while.
I was doing scorpions fatality on Mortal Kombat 1 on md.emu, block up, where block is start and the home light started flashing.
gwaldo said:
Hey, what does holding down start do?
I noticed it disables the controller for a while.
I was doing scorpions fatality on Mortal Kombat 1 on md.emu, block up, where block is start and the home light started flashing.
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Holding the Start button for 5 seconds will have the Home button flash purple, clearing pairing for the CTRLR. It will then flash the usual red and blue, putting the CTRLR in Discovery Mode until it connects to a host. If the USB dongle is plugged in, it will usually immediately connect to that.
Otherwise, you can have it connect wirelessly to Bluetooth 4.0 PCs with Windows 8 (including the Microsoft Surface Pro) and Bluetooth 4.0 Android devices that have KitKat (like the Nexus 5 and 7). Just go into the device's Bluetooth settings and make sure the USB dongle is not plugged into anything.
For emus, I've been playing around with setting R3 as Start. Still trying to get used to it. :x Hope that helps!
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For emus, I've been playing around with setting R3 as Start. Still trying to get used to it. :x Hope that helps!
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R3 = Right analog click in, Interesting.. never thought of using those!
I'll leave it as start tho, as it plays just like the original pads :laugh:
Played around with L3 as Select and R3 as Start since Back button was usually the emu menu.... Unfortunately, didn't work out for me as I kept pressing L3 by accident whenever I was doing quick movements with the Left Analog. T_T
I've revised my control scheme to R3 as Select, and Start as the regular Start button now.
FWIW I usually just assign the Back button to the Select function - if I ever need to bring up the emulator menu I switch to mouse mode and click the back button in the soft menu bar.
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Dear friend,
how do I do to put OFF completely my magician XDAmini?
Best regards
Daniele
Take the battery out?
And pushing the power button?
The power button can only put the phone is Standby. In PDA phones there is no such thing as OFF. The RAM needs power all the time. Sliding the battery cover in and out will also power off the device. Don't leave that long though, otherwise you risk losing all the information.
Hello,
I'm new so plz be patient. Ok, pressing the power button only allows us to set the device in standby mode. How do I turn off the phone (gsm) mode then? The idea is just that I want to figure out a way to reduce the power consumption as much as possible.
Thx for all coming answers..
To turn the phone itself off click on the signal strength indicator then click on 'Turn on flight mode'
This turns off the phone part of the device but leaves the pda side still functional
HTH
Alrite. But is there a way to accomplish that task with hardware buttons? Guess not, ey?
Just don't wanna pull out my stylus that often.. *g*
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
moses3k said:
Alrite. But is there a way to accomplish that task with hardware buttons? Guess not, ey?
Just don't wanna pull out my stylus that often.. *g*
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You could install PocketZenPhone from here: http://zendrui.free.fr/ and then, as long as your fingers are not too fat, you can press an icon on the today screen. 8)
Cool, thx for this hint.
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Hello,
I'm new so plz be patient. Ok, pressing the power button only allows us to set the device in standby mode. How do I turn off the phone (gsm) mode then? The idea is just that I want to figure out a way to reduce the power consumption as much as possible.
Thx for all coming answers..
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I don't think that the GPRS is using that much power, but to turn it off, hold the RED Phone button down for several seconds (I never timed it, I just wait for the "GPRS Connected" icon to disappear.
Your best bet for power consumption is to lower the screen brightness to it's lowest level, and set the screen backlight to go off at 30 seconds, and lastly to set the device to power down at 1 minute of inactivity.
copy this app to your magician, in a folder you want. Bind it to a hard button or make a shortcut on your Todayscreen with SPB Pocket PLus or another program.
PocketZenPhone (the tray version of it) can also be used to set the profiles via hardware buttons. This can be done with making shortcuts to the .exe with setting the specific profile. I'm using this together with MortButtons to switch between my profiles of PocketZenPhone.
Yzord said:
pnharrison said:
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
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Yzord; no it really does work (did you try it ?)
Yes, pressing the power button briefly just turns the screen off ; I think we all know that.
However holding the button down for several seconds will allow you to turn it off completely. = power off; no applications running; no phone or other network connections; zero power consumption, nada.
PH
the best way to stop using magician:
charge battery to 50%
do a backup
pull out battery
pack you magician
several years later
get it out
put in battery
do a restore
charge and use it
(maybe 5% drop one year, so can put aside ten years
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Yzord said:
pnharrison said:
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
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Yzord; no it really does work (did you try it ?)
Yes, pressing the power button briefly just turns the screen off ; I think we all know that.
However holding the button down for several seconds will allow you to turn it off completely. = power off; no applications running; no phone or other network connections; zero power consumption, nada.
PH
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It will still lose some power in keeping the RAM filled, if it loses all power (goes very slowly however), all your installed programs and data will be lost. It takes a long time, but it still uses power to keep the RAM chips powered and the clock correct. Furtheremore, with the Magician it keeps the phone and alarms awake, so you can receive calls. You have to turn on flight mode manually to turn the radio off. Also you have to turn off all alarms to prevent your device from waking up. Your method is more like the one used on the Wizard, where holding the power button for 5 seconds really turns everything off and when pressing and holding again makes the Wizard start up again (with boot screen and all).
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Dear friend,
how do I do to put OFF completely my magician XDAmini?
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Also thought of this when I first got my xda mini. Now, after some reading here in the forums, I just switched my xda mini to flight mode before I go to sleep. It turns off the phone. Hope this helps.
My ouya is doing it all the time. I switch it off from the menu it goes alive after some time. When I switch it off with a button the situation is the same. Has anyone got the same problem?
Mine doesn't since the update. Before the last update it did after I touched the controller.
Keep in mind you can turn the ouya off now by pressing the Y button in the main menue (since update). Then it stays off.
Or you can HOLD the Ouya button and then select "off" in the popup.
Pressing the Ouya button just enables stand-by.
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Mine doesn't since the update. Before the last update it did after I touched the controller.
Keep in mind you can turn the ouya off now by pressing the Y button in the main menue (since update). Then it stays off.
Or you can HOLD the Ouya button and then select "off" in the popup.
Pressing the Ouya button just enables stand-by.
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I have the same issue after the update. I use the "Y" button at the main screen to turn it off and select OUYA. The console will be on when I come back to the tv.
When you "turn off" the OUYA via the Y button at home screen, its essentially putting it to sleep, then when you leave and switch back to the input that your OUYA is attached to, your TV will send a "wake up" signal, which effectively turns the OUYA back on...
Yep, Using the Y button from the menu doesn't shut the Ouya off and neither does just pressing the button. Both will put it into sleep mode and it's VERY easy to wake from sleep. With earlier controllers just pressing a controller button will wake the controller and then the Ouya (the later rev controllers I got after they replaced my originals don't wake up unless you press the center OU button so they're less susceptible to this.) And the Ouya will wake if it senses activity on the HDMI port. With my TV I don't even have to change to the input the Ouya's on, just turning on the TV apparently causes enough activity on the ports that it wakes the Ouya up each time I turn the TV on if the Ouya is just sleeping.
I was really excited that they finally added the ability to put it into sleep mode from the controller. But it's so ridiculously easy to wake up that it's kind of senseless and I'm still stuck getting up and either pressing the button for 2-3 seconds and then using the controller to confirm the power off, or more commonly just holding the button for 8 seconds until it shuts down.
I really hope they do something better with the whole power thing before commercial release but there's not much time left for them to fix it.
I noticed the same and I'm on the newest update.
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I noticed the same and I'm on the newest update.
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I'm having the same problem as well. Keeps turning on even though I don't even touch it. This sucks double cuz the ouya doesn't have any cpu governing so it's always running at full speed.
this is a FEATURE of the OUYA! It is NOT running in the background all the time! It turns back on when you activate the input. Someone has also stated that it is part of the official "features" list of the OUYA.
Here is a quote of what i posted over on ouyaforum.com
After messing around with this for a while I messed up my controller to where it was stuck on no matter what I did. Luckily it was temporary and a hard restart fixed it but it did help in determining exactly what triggers the OUYA to turn on!
This is something built into Android, every phone/tablet has it. It's bringing it out of sleep. Some phones only allow it to happen by the power button, others it's any physical button, but as far as I know all of them turn their screen on when plugged in to charge, and that's what's going on here.
The OUYA turns on whenever I activate the input it's in. If I switch to it, the OUYA turns on, if I turn on the TV when it's already on that input, the OUYA turns on.
When my controller was stuck on, I would use the Y button to "turn off the ouya" and then any button press or movement of the controller would turn it back on, just as physical buttons do with phones.
So yes, it is actually a feature, but it's built into Android and not just the OUYA. It is most likely that it does have to do with CEC, since the HDMI is looking for anything active on that input, so the OUYA sees it as being plugged in.
With that said I think it's pretty cool that it does that! I mean I know it doesn't save any time or anything like that, as you still have to turn on the controller, but it is just cool to put it onto the input or turn on the TV and the system is already ready to go.
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this is a FEATURE of the OUYA! It is NOT running in the background all the time! It turns back on when you activate the input. Someone has also stated that it is part of the official "features" list of the OUYA.
Here is a quote of what i posted over on ouyaforum.com
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Ah, so there's a sleep feature and a power off feature. I see.
The sleep feature is not working well. Comes out of sleep by it self it seems. While on sleep, is it turning off the 4 main cores and only running on the 5th low process Tegra core?
I believe it is a WOL (wake on lan) from the router but I could be wrong.
I don't now what's happened to my controller but when it's set in the mouse mode the pointer will always just scroll towards the top. I've tried to recalibrate it several times and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? I'm about to pull my hair out!
Thanks!
Mine is the other way - constantly scrolling to the bottom. I take it as a signal my batteries need changing!
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I don't now what's happened to my controller but when it's set in the mouse mode the pointer will always just scroll towards the top. I've tried to recalibrate it several times and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? I'm about to pull my hair out!
Thanks!
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I've had the same problem. Please try the following:
Recalibrating the pad:
1. If the pad is on, press and hold the home button for 5 seconds until the pad powers down.
2. Press and hold all four face button (a, b, x, y) down at once, then power the pad on.
3. The Home LED will shine purple, when it does press the Select button on the pad.
4. The Home LED will blink purple. When it does, move both analogue sticks and both triggers through
their full range of movement four times.
5. Press the Start button and the pad will continue to pair to its host.
Worked for my C.T.R.L. R which was included to my M.O.J.O.!
Jan, that is a fantastic tip! I just assumed the batteries needed refreshing.
I presume by "select button" you mean the "back" button on the stock CTRLR? There is no select button on this pad.
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Jan, that is a fantastic tip! I just assumed the batteries needed refreshing.
I presume by "select button" you mean the "back" button on the stock CTRLR? There is no select button on this pad.
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Oh sorry, you are right. Its the "back" button.
Did this work for your gamepad, too?
I can certainly confirm it performed as you state. I haven't played a great deal but it does seem to work. Thanks so much, adding this to my list of handy hints!
On another note, do you know of any other controllers that are fully compatible with the MOJO? I've tried wired USB pads but they don't seem to be detected, certainly not by something like Retroarch. I like the CTRLR a great deal but I think I'd feel "safer" if I knew I could replace it easily if I need to in the long term. I have an official PS3 pad that would be nice to link up if possible. Any advice much appreciated.
Hello all,
I've upgraded to v8 and get cannot get past the prompt to press the sync button on my controller. When I do that, it the button flashes, and flashes, and flashes... but the controller never syncs, so I cannot get to use by console, it is stuck there. I usually use a wireless keyboard, but this does not get me past the screen here.
Is there any way to get past that screen where you are required to sync a remote or controller with the console?
I don't want to buy a new controller or remote as I don't use them.
Thanks,
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hello all,
I've upgraded to v8 and get cannot get past the prompt to press the sync button on my controller. When I do that, it the button flashes, and flashes, and flashes... but the controller never syncs, so I cannot get to use by console, it is stuck there. I usually use a wireless keyboard, but this does not get me past the screen here.
Is there any way to get past that screen where you are required to sync a remote or controller with the console?
I don't want to buy a new controller or remote as I don't use them.
Thanks,
Mark.
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Try pressing home button, back button at the same time until it flashes and see if it syncs if not press home button, back button at same time for 15 sec and then disconnect power from shield then plug back in and it should work, has worked for me like that countless times
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Try pressing home button, back button at the same time until it flashes and see if it syncs if not press home button, back button at same time for 15 sec and then disconnect power from shield then plug back in and it should work, has worked for me like that countless times
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@jionny, I have the game controller, not the hand remote... so do you know which keys I should try with that controller?
Cheers, I'll give that a whirl this weekend...
fredphoesh said:
@jionny, I have the game controller, not the hand remote... so do you know which keys I should try with that controller?
Cheers, I'll give that a whirl this weekend...
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Back, home, and shield button at the same time for 15 seconds
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Back, home, and shield button at the same time for 15 seconds
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tx, I'll reflash and try that this weekend... cheers mate.
Hi
I've just bought an ex-demo display unit off ebay (with limited warranty from a rated biz seller) and after I press the power button whilst it's in sleep/standby mode, it can take around 15-40 sec for the screen to turn on. On my old Tab-S2 (and virtually every other device) pressing the power button wakes up the device immediately.
Am I missing some weird new feature here or is it faulty? How can I test it?
If I do a screen double-tap it's the same. If I hold down the power button then it prompts straight away to turn off. So it just seems to have the delay whilst it's in sleep/display-off mode. If it's powered off then it starts after about 5sec holding down the power key.
It's no good having a faster tablet if it takes ages to wake up - any ideas?
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Hi
I've just bought an ex-demo display unit off ebay (with limited warranty from a rated biz seller) and after I press the power button whilst it's in sleep/standby mode, it can take around 15-40 sec for the screen to turn on. On my old Tab-S2 (and virtually every other device) pressing the power button wakes up the device immediately.
Am I missing some weird new feature here or is it faulty? How can I test it?
If I do a screen double-tap it's the same. If I hold down the power button then it prompts straight away to turn off. So it just seems to have the delay whilst it's in sleep/display-off mode. If it's powered off then it starts after about 5sec holding down the power key.
It's no good having a faster tablet if it takes ages to wake up - any ideas?
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that's not normal for sure, it should wake up instantly after pressing the power button, you can try to factory reset or flash latest firmware, if problem exists you should return it then.
Thanks for the info - I'd already updated the firmware but it made no difference. I also ran the Samsung Members Hardware test https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/samsung-members-how-to-perform-hardware-test/ but and the hardkeys check out fine.
However I've just discovered that if I disable "double tap to wake" (option enabled by default) then the power key and fingerprint touch now wake it immediately. The behaviour was rather random though so will give it some time.
Well that turned out to be short lived as it sometimes then went to sleep and couldn't be woken up at all, save for the power and vol down key combo. I contacted Samsung support and they advised me to return it!