Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). The way to trip the KNOX flag is by changing the kernel or bootloader/recovery and this does neither. It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
If you find yourself needing to unroot, visit post #2 in the original thread and follow the steps. You can find SCH-I435 stock firmware and Verizon software in this thread (post #10 & #12). I HAVE NOT TRIED THESE SO USE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION.
List of devices this is confirmed working for:
Verizon SCH-I435
GT-I9190
GT-I9195 some variants (see post 33)
GT-I8190 (S3 Mini)
Devices this does not work for:
GT-I9195 some variants (see post 23-31)
Let me know if this works for your phone and I'll add it to the list.
What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks
newarkoz said:
What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks
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The KNOX flag is 0x0. Your warranty will be intact.
I'll upload a picture as soon as I can take one.
newarkoz said:
What was the value of Knox counter in Download Mode after rooting with this method?
Thanks
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This root technique doesn't touch the Knox Warranty Void flag as it doesn't try to flash anything (kernel, bootloader, etc.)
It does, however, set the "Custom" flag at boot. See post #2 in the original thread for ways to clear that.
It does NOT unlock the bootloader. Don't go off flashing AOSP or CM after you root, as those WILL set the Knox Warranty Void flag.
k1mu said:
This root technique doesn't touch the Knox Warranty Void flag as it doesn't try to flash anything (kernel, bootloader, etc.)
It does, however, set the "Custom" flag at boot. See post #2 in the original thread for ways to clear that.
It does NOT unlock the bootloader. Don't go off flashing AOSP or CM after you root, as those WILL set the Knox Warranty Void flag.
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Here you have it straight from the source!
Interestingly it didn't change the custom flag on the phone I rooted. Download mode shows system status is "Official" and the device status in the menu also still says "Official."
Original quote:
postal302 said:
Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
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What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?
The Jinxer said:
Original quote:
What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?
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There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.
joetrizeo said:
There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.
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I know that. Just want to know if it will work. I don't want to trigger any warnings like knox or safe boot Etc since Android and Samsung stepped up their security
The Jinxer said:
What variations of the S4 Mini will this work on? for instance my one ( GT-I9190 )?
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This is fairly new in the Mini world so I'm not sure which ones this method is confirmed for, but it should work for most any of the models. Over in the full size S4 forums it seems the AT&T phones are preventing root but others are having success. I don't see why it wouldn't work on your 9190, but the beauty of it is if it doesn't work there's no harm done. The ADB debugger will simply stop and your phone will remain unrooted, it's worth a shot.
If it does work let me know. I've started a list in post 2 of Minis that have successfully rooted using this method.
joetrizeo said:
There's tons of other options for GT*'s (flashes, roms, roots). I'd suggest checking them out. The verizon version (SCH*) was the one lacking safe root.
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There's a root method listed for the 9190 somewhere here in the forums but I believe it trips the KNOX flag and voids warranty. The post doesn't say whether it does or not, but gathering from what others have said in the thread it appears to change the KNOX flag to 0x1.
postal302 said:
This is fairly new in the Mini world so I'm not sure which ones this method is confirmed for, but it should work for most any of the models. Over in the full size S4 forums it seems the AT&T phones are preventing root but others are having success. I don't see why it wouldn't work on your 9190, but the beauty of it is if it doesn't work there's no harm done. The ADB debugger will simply stop and your phone will remain unrooted, it's worth a shot.
If it does work let me know. I've started a list in post 2 of Minis that have successfully rooted using this method.
There's a root method listed for the 9190 somewhere here in the forums but I believe it trips the KNOX flag and voids warranty. The post doesn't say whether it does or not, but gathering from what others have said in the thread it appears to change the KNOX flag to 0x1.
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looks like it worked, but i think i am seeing a slight performance decrease... unrooting... but thanks
---------- Post added at 02:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:28 AM ----------
tried rooting again, seems to have no performance issues... maybe my phone was just reacting to its anal rape via usb
The Jinxer said:
looks like it worked, but i think i am seeing a slight performance decrease... unrooting... but thanks
---------- Post added at 02:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:28 AM ----------
tried rooting again, seems to have no performance issues... maybe my phone was just reacting to its anal rape via usb
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I'd give it a couple days to adjust to it's new digs. I loaded a new kernel on my S3 which was supposed to improve battery life, day one was terrible but from then on it did in fact improve. I wasn't a believer in letting the phone "settle in"until then.
For curiosity sake, what did you do to unroot? Did it return the custom flag to official if it changed?
Can I count this as confirmed for the I9190?
You can definitely count this as confirmed. I'm not sure if the custom flag has been tripped. Nothing has changed in the About device settings
postal302 said:
Disclaimer: You are fully responsible for anything you do to your phone. This is the safest method possible but there are always risks involved. If you brick your phone, or have any otherwise negative effects no one here is at fault.
I am not a developer and can take no credit for this (and consequently cannot provide support for this)! All credit and thanks go to @k1mu for this method.
For those of you who want root access to your phone and do not want to use Kingo (root without Kingo) here is a safe method. The best part is if it doesn't work there is no harm done to your phone, it simply will not root. This will provide root on the stock software and DOES NOT trip the KNOX flag (your KNOX flag will remain 0x0). It may change the System Status to "Custom" (this can be seen in Download Mode or in the phone's menu under Settings->About Phone->Status->Device Status) but there are ways to change that, see the details in the original post.
This does not unlock the boot loader, does not install a custom recovery or allow you to load custom ROMs.
@k1mu created this method using an Experia exploit and modifying it for the Galaxy S4 full size, however it works for many other Android devices. I used this to root a Verizon Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 and other people have reported this working for the S3, Note 2, other carrier phones and some non-Samsung devices.
This will provide root access on your phone and install SuperSU. This works with Android 4.3 as well as 4.2.2.
Here's the basic steps to root your S4 Mini (for the full step-by-step visit the thread):
1. Setup USB drivers on your computer.
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone.
3. Enable USB ADB access.
4. Download and unzip the Saferoot.zip
5. Root your phone
6. Click "Thanks" on k1mu's thread for this (yes I added this step ).
If you have questions or run into problems reply to k1mu's thread. He is very helpful and quick to reply.
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Just want to mention, I went into odin mode to check my knox status, and there is no mention of knox whatsoever??? i want to make sure my knox status isn't 0x1 but it looks like its gone? i thought knox flag was set by hardware? the eFuse or something
Has anyone tried it with the GT-I9195 model?
And more specific with the I9195XXUBMJ7 firmware, will this method trip knox warranty void?
dermousis said:
Has anyone tried it with the GT-I9195 model?
And more specific with the I9195XXUBMJ7 firmware, will this method trip knox warranty void?
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doubt it man, this method is still new. if anything you could be the one to test, as i did, i do have my warranty at stake, but cant be sure if its void since im not seeing ANY flags, the knox app is still there, but if i go to odin download mode, no knox entries appear.
The Jinxer said:
doubt it man, this method is still new. if anything you could be the one to test, as i did, i do have my warranty at stake, but cant be sure if its void since im not seeing ANY flags, the knox app is still there, but if i go to odin download mode, no knox entries appear.
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That is because u don`t have NEW bootloader yet
Just to be sure tell me what u see in *#1234#
U are in luck so to speak u have old firmware that does not contain Knox bootloader only Knox apps that are harmless without bootloader
U can use this guide : when a new firmware comes out Just don`t update with Kies/OTA and u are good to go
SilviuMik said:
That is because u don`t have NEW bootloader yet
Just to be sure tell me what u see in *#1234#
U are in luck so to speak u have old firmware that does not contain Knox bootloader only Knox apps that are harmless without bootloader
U can use this guide : when a new firmware comes out Just don`t update with Kies/OTA and u are good to go
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AP: I9190XXUAMF7
CP: (same as above)
CSC: I9190OJVAMG1
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i dont really mind having the knox bootloader when an OTA rolls out, i want the new version of android more than I want to root it
The Jinxer said:
AP: I9190XXUAMF7
CP: (same as above)
CSC: I9190OJVAMG1
---------- Post added at 06:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:27 PM ----------
i dont really mind having the knox bootloader when an OTA rolls out, i want the new version of android more than I want to root it
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U don`t have the new bootloader Only from MK* MJ* ML* came the new bootloader
Well, u know better what u want from your phone
U can use Kies/OTA and stock rom no root / no different kernel and battery drain for now and hope Samsung will fix it on KitKat ( I did write to them on all channels how to fix it but .... will take a loooong time
Or Odin Stock rom / custom rom + custom kernel + no battery drain
Anyway all this is off topic
Just wanted to let u know u are lucky and can do a thing about Knox Other updated and cry after ^^
Take care mate
so you are saying i am safe from knox warranty void 0x1????
ERMAGEHRD
Related
Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
roni2915 said:
Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
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1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005
muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Can anyone confirm if option 1 is working?
Also, can I modify SM-N900 to work on AWS network (Wind Mobile/Mobilicity). I am thinking of selling this phone and getting the snapdragon version. and I have a buyer who wants to work the phone on wind.
dr.m0x said:
Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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I'm thinkin you are right. I have a buddy that works for one of the manufactures and they have a whole department dedicated to "returns". And return numbers are much much higher than they want them to be. So anything that will bring those numbers down at all, they will do!
I would also like to know if it is possible to unroot and reset knox on the n900.
As for the warranty goes, I think that if you bring the device back because the usb port or ear phone jack or the home button fails, this should be repaired regardless if you rooted your phone.
Can you overclock your home button? What about the power button and vol up?
Lol.
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
does this work
Hello guys , just came across this link while surfing the net, it claims to restore warranty of rooted phone SM N 900. Please look at this. has anyone tried? please post results
http://theunlockr.com/2013/10/13/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-3/
There are rooting methods without tripping Knox and in those cases removing root will bring phone back to original 100%, so to speak. However once tripped, I'm not aware of any way to undo Knox flag. The method above does not mention anything about Knox and I'm 90% sure it does not remove Knox flag, it just removes the root using Chainfire method.
However, rooted phone shows up as custom right away in about menu and it's easy to see, where Knox flag only shows up in download menu and it's more involved to find, therefore the chances are, unless it is Samsung service, they may not look or even care about Knox flag as long as it doesn't show custom/rooted, especially that Knox is only Samsung thing.
I agree 100% "genius" customers are the reason for all the blocks and lockdowns on our phones. I just read some thread about some Einstein calling customer care asking them for help in rooting the phone, I'm kidding you not and he went on and on how useless the service department is when they tried to explain that they not support custom programing etc.
captainhakan said:
Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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I agree that manufacturers should allow for root access, however carriers would lose their minds. It (and im basing this on the sweat of others) appears that doing a hotspot that doesn't eat the data allowed by the carrier is super easy once root access is granted. But to the point, I agree that ROOT should be given as an option OTB.
CHEERS!
UNROOT GALAXY Note 3 (SM N 900)
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in USA. And the device is an unlocked to use in every operators in North, Central, South America and Caribbean. Actually I bought the phone to use in Sri Lanka, since it was not compatible in Sri Lanka I found a guy who unlock it. To be honest I didn't know that he was going to root my phone until I tried to update my phone. It says " The device has been modified..no updates are available" That guy has rooted the device in superSU.
But I want to unroot my phone to the factory status. And I tried my self to completely unroot in the setting of superSU. And I did it..but there were no any changes in the status of my phone "CUSTOM" And I uninstalled the superUS. When I install it again through Play Store, it says "There is no US binary installed.And Super US by cannot be installed"
So please tell me how to unroot my phone to the original status to update it. Because I tried to find the firmwares, the safest and easiest way of unrooting. But I could not find it as I do not know what's is my Region code and other related details. Can anyone tell me how to do it or can you send any links to download them please ? Attached photograph will show some details of my device details of firmware. If possible inbox me [email protected] or post on this page..Thank you so much.
good job
folks... this works great..... I recommend this...
Hey guys,
I've read lots of articles about Knox and the whole eFuse thing but the more I read the more unsure I get about rooting my S4 mini. Because of this and because I think you don't get any S4s without "activated" Knox Bootloader anymore I thought it would be helpful for all S4 mini owners (and maybe all Knox device owners in general) to list all downsides and also rumors about "blowing the eFuse" to hopefully take away some of the fears.
I think it's already clear that you could loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. Which doesn't seem to affect EU people But anyway, I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversible consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
:: EDITED & ADDED SOME QUESTIONS ::
The answers in green = positive or red = negative show the current state according to the replies in here, If you have other experiences please let us know.
[ROOTING tripping KNOX 0x1]
Are there any irreversible malfunctions when rooting your device (especially the GT-I9195) and turning to "knox warranty void 0x1"?
Are all (pre-installed) apps - except the Knox apps - still working as they should on rooted stock roms (s-apps, cam, calendar,..)?
[GOING BACK TO DEFAULT FACTORY STATUS]
Regarding the software only:
can you go back to 100% factory status (unrooted, stock etc) with a "Knox Warranty Void 0x1?
- Yes, according to iPAQS4 you can go back with no malfunctions
Do you get the Knox warnings again?
No, according to iPAQS4
Are there any other app or system malfunctions?
- No
Is it true that OTA updates won't work anymore once you tripped your knox flag?
- No, according to iPAQS4 they still work
Is it possible to get official updates via Kies / USB cable still?
- Yes, according to iPAQS4
[FAILURES ROOTING, KNOX]
Regarding the Knox environment only, not self-caused rooting failures:
can there else go anything wrong that can't be undone like breaking important hardware?
or is there a higher chance to brick your device with Knox than without?
is an intact eFuse required by some other hardware (NFC, etc)?
Are there any other known problems/downsides?
Here is an interesting article about all myths & truths about Knox. It's very informative and also answers a few of my questions: http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
Honky-Tonk said:
Hey guys,
I've read lots of articles about Knox and the whole eFuse thing but the more I read the more unsure I get about rooting my S4 mini. Because of this and because I think you don't get any S4s without "activated" Knox Bootloader anymore I thought it would be helpful for all S4 mini owners (and maybe all Knox device owners in general) to list all downsides and also rumors about "blowing the eFuse" to hopefully take away some of the fears.
I think it's already clear that you can loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. But I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversivble consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
Can you go back to stock Rom (un-rooted) with a "Knox Warranty Void 0x1"? And with which problems do you have to deal (software warnings, malfunctions...)?
Can you still get official Samsung updates via Kies or over unofficial channels?
Are there any known hardware or software malfunctions because of the broken eFuse?
Are there any other known problems/downsides?
@ all_experienced_owners: would you still recommend rooting a Knox device or breaking the eFuse?
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If you flash stock ROM (XXUBML1 for example) via Odin, the System Status will turn back to Official but of course the Knox flag remains 0x1.
Kies will also recognize your phone.
I don't know whether Kies/OTA updates will work, I never used/saw them.
If you don't care about warranty I recommend rooting
ladislav.heller said:
If you flash stock ROM (XXUBML1 for example) via Odin, the System Status will turn back to Official but of course the Knox flag remains 0x1.
Kies will also recognize your phone.
I don't know whether Kies/OTA updates will work, I never used/saw them.
If you don't care about warranty I recommend rooting
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According to other posts OTA updates won't work anymore, unfortunately. Does anyone else know if updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work?
Have there been any Knox warnings when going back to stock again? It always says to disable all Knox apps once you have rooted your phone but back on un-rooted stock this is not possible, I guess?! So I think you will get these warnings again, don't you?
[bump] edited and added some questions!
Honky-Tonk said:
According to other posts OTA updates won't work anymore, unfortunately. Does anyone else know if updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work?
Have there been any Knox warnings when going back to stock again? It always says to disable all Knox apps once you have rooted your phone but back on un-rooted stock this is not possible, I guess?! So I think you will get these warnings again, don't you?
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Updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work.
Going back to stock is posible whitout extra knox warnings. Knox will behave as before.
iPAQS4 said:
Updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work.
Going back to stock is posible whitout extra knox warnings. Knox will behave as before.
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Sounds great, so you can always go back to original phone status (except your Bootloader and the OTA updates)? Just to make sure: you tripped Knox warranty void to 0x1, right?
What about rooted status (stock rom), did you notice any malfunctions with any apps, especially the s-apps?
Which rooting method did you use?
Thx
Honky-Tonk said:
I think it's already clear that you can loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. But I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversivble consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
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Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
You can use this method to root with out trip the Knox flag: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I've tried it on mine i9190 without any issue.
Honky-Tonk said:
Sounds great, so you can always go back to original phone status (except your Bootloader and the OTA updates)? Just to make sure: you tripped Knox warranty void to 0x1, right?
What about rooted status (stock rom), did you notice any malfunctions with any apps, especially the s-apps?
Which rooting method did you use?
Thx
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When you go back to original phone status OTA updates will olso work and there are no malfunctions with any apps.
iPAQS4 said:
When you go back to original phone status OTA updates will olso work and there are no malfunctions with any apps.
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really ??
i updated once via kies to the latest firmware and my gt-i9195 was useless, could not turn on wifi and it was lagging a lot and etc...
so i needed to flash it back to my previus firmware version...
nibb-1 said:
really ??
i updated once via kies to the latest firmware and my gt-i9195 was useless, could not turn on wifi and it was lagging a lot and etc...
so i needed to flash it back to my previus firmware version...
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I unrooted my phone by flashing it with the original firmware with odin and than wipe data/ factory reset in recovery mode.
After that my phone had a ota from MJ7 to ML4.
If you recently bought the phone, I don't recommend rooting (although I rooted the phone the same day I bought it) If you really don't care about the warranty and the OTA updates, root your phone. I literally can do nothing without root.
As we heard today, our S4 Mini will update to 4.4.2 so I don't recommend rooting until it is out so you cqn get the OTA update.
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Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
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Good to know, thank's a lot
Sky91 said:
Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
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Thx, yes that makes sense. I've also read a few articles about the warranty facts and always wondered why sellers can refuse warranty just because of the "wrong" software. I mean I never heard of anything like that with personal computers, notebooks etc. Would be very interesting, though if a mainboard manufacturer doesn't give warranty and claims that Windows, OSX, Linux etc destroyed it because you used it as an Admin . So actually I think, this regulation should apply world wide not only in the EU.
But we should keep in mind that warranty is not the same as guaranty which is probably really gone with a void 0x1 flag?! However it's great (at least for European people) to have a last hope in mind!
But the reason I wanted to list all downsides is to make sure that you can also root Knox system without any hesitation - to keep the fun for rooting so to say
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I unrooted my phone by flashing it with the original firmware with odin and than wipe data/ factory reset in recovery mode.
After that my phone had a ota from MJ7 to ML4.
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I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
RoyaLKurTx3 said:
If you recently bought the phone, I don't recommend rooting (although I rooted the phone the same day I bought it) If you really don't care about the warranty and the OTA updates, root your phone. I literally can do nothing without root.
As we heard today, our S4 Mini will update to 4.4.2 so I don't recommend rooting until it is out so you cqn get the OTA update.
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Thx, I personally don't care about warranty. So this was really rather meant to only treat the functional downsides if there are any at all. I wanted to make sure to not have a trash phone with lots of battery drain or even worse: some irreversible hardware malfunctions after rooting. I'm also looking forward to KitKat but I doubt that the update will remove Knox again since even the army is already working together with Samsung now!
But according to iPAQS4 you can't do so much wrong with rooting (regarding the Knox environment of course)?!
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Thx, yes that makes sense. I've also read a few articles about the warranty facts and always wondered why sellers can refuse warranty just because of the "wrong" software. I mean I never heard of anything like that with personal computers, notebooks etc. Would be very interesting, though if a mainboard manufacturer doesn't give warranty and claims that Windows, OSX, Linux etc destroyed it because you used it as an Admin . So actually I think, this regulation should apply world wide not only in the EU.
But we should keep in mind that warranty is not the same as guaranty which is probably really gone with a void 0x1 flag?! However it's great (at least for European people) to have a last hope in mind!
But the reason I wanted to list all downsides is to make sure that you can also root Knox system without any hesitation - to keep the fun for rooting so to say
I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
Thx, I personally don't care about warranty. So this was really rather meant to only treat the functional downsides if there are any at all. I wanted to make sure to not have a trash phone with lots of battery drain or even worse: some irreversible hardware malfunctions after rooting. I'm also looking forward to KitKat but I doubt that the update will remove Knox again since even the army is already working together with Samsung now!
But according to iPAQS4 you can't do so much wrong with rooting (regarding the Knox environment of course)?!
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I will flash a new ROM and I'll see if the KNOX stays like it was. But I'll do that later today or tomorrow.
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Honky-Tonk said:
I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
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According myths & truths about Knox
If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure. By this I mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use KNOX to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future Samsung firmware releases with the KNOX flag 0x1.
Confirmed. If you flash a new ROM TWICE, your KNOX counter will get 0x0. It will look like it is new.
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RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Confirmed. If you flash a new ROM TWICE, your KNOX counter will get 0x0. It will look like it is new.
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Is your phone knox previously tripped 0x1 and when you flash new rom twice become 0x0 ? thanks
rnbeez said:
Is your phone knox previously tripped 0x1 and when you flash new rom twice become 0x0 ? thanks
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Yep.
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Yep.
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wiered it needs more researching .. mate knox flag is nearly impossible to reset and you are sayin flashing a stock rom twice fixes it !!
Hello all,
I searched the forums round and round, and couldn't find my answers so I hope you will be able to help me out.
i'm looking for a new phone and decided I want to go with the S5. that was before i learned about KNOX and it's wonderful ways.
i'm a heavy modder, who will most definitely use a custom recovery and ROM/kernel.
my questions are:
1. would it be possible to flash a custom recovery / rom / kernel / modem despite KNOX being preset?
2. other then getting this 0x1 and voiding my official warranty, are there any other result to this? will something not work?
3. assuming I get an unlocked international phone, is there any need to mess/change my FW? or is that just part of guides for rooting without tripping KNOX ?
Basically, I want to be sure that I could do whatever I want to the phone without getting stuck or turning it unusable because of KNOX. my current phone is a Nexus 4 and it has been heaven. I want to preserve this feeling
thanks for the help guys, appreciate it!
Did you tried Towelroot method for rooting your device? I heard that doesn't trigger knox..
I would imagine my rooting the phone is the least of my worries.
as far as I know - and this is one of my questions - flashing a custom recovery and or rom will 100% trip KNOX.
not that I care, I just need to know if this is true..and my other questions as well
thanks!
A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
I've heard tales of people having issues flashing modems when knox is triggered. I have not checked that out for myself Joe have I searched any further into the matter.
I plan on breaking knox soon though because screw knox.
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A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
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This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
Amornik said:
This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
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You can, but you will always have problems like network, connection,calls, bugs and so on
Samsung devices do not provide the old pleasure as previously
Knox killed freedom of developers and people who like customizations
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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No, KNOX tripping is only at the moment a warranty void solution for samsung. its like the flash count flags.
basically if you trip knox. you're already in it. you do what you want
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
Dark_Avenger said:
I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
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Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
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Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
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Exactly, but with full stock image flush (including bootloader). The full stock tar.md5 form sammobile includes the modem/bootloader/rom. I think that the important thing is to have a modem which is compatible with the bootloader (same version). Didn't try to mix different bootloader/modem(baseband) versions.
Tripping KNOX will only disable the feature which allows you to store some data on a encrypted part of the device (Mostly comercial use) when KNOX is tripped any data stored on the 'special' partition is destroyed.
So there are only 2 things that will be affected, your warranty (Not a problem in Europe) and the special partition that I explained earlier.
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Thanks guys, excellent replies !
So...I did it !
I went and bought a brand new S5, and tripped KNOX within the hour. Man, did it feel sooo good !
custom recovery up, rom up, here we go!
I didn't find a topic about KNOX counter at least not in the S6 forums, I just wanted to make a topic where you can discuss what does or doesn't trip the KNOX counter.
In the past I have always flashed custom roms to all my devices, most of the times flashing a custom recovery was one of the first things I did. With this device I'm not sure what I'm going to do, it arrives later this week and I've read a lot of people are happy with with stock rom and don't see a benefit in voiding the warranty for de-bloating etc.
Do you care about KNOX warranty and it's features or not? If not why?
Things SHOULDN'T trip KNOX:
[ROOT] PingPongRoot ***S6 & S6 Edge Root Tool*** (Read instructions carefully!)
Things that do trip KNOX:
CF auto root
Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM
From what I've read the only true importance of KNOX for the average user is the ability to use Samsung PAY. I'm waiting for it to be released and for people to test out the various roots/roms/exploits to see what trips knox, etc.
Although the stock ROM is good, I really wanna remove some of ATT's bloat :/ I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat regarding carrier bloat.
I am still keeping my knox intact by ping pong root , i have removed many of the useless apps and installed some of my favorites apps for better battery management and used CSC Feature Expert for some tweaks . still waiting for custom rom that doesn't trip knox .
Sarmo94 said:
From what I've read the only true importance of KNOX for the average user is the ability to use Samsung PAY. I'm waiting for it to be released and for people to test out the various roots/roms/exploits to see what trips knox, etc.
Although the stock ROM is good, I really wanna remove some of ATT's bloat :/ I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat regarding carrier bloat.
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Why not use debloater to disable the bloat in the mean time?
I haven't received my device yet but here in Australia they use the 920I version and back home in Belgium they use global 920F model. On a few Australian forums I've read that Samsung Australia doesn't give warranty to overseas models. On Yatango they sold both the 920I and the 920F, so I decided that I would take the global 920F since I will have to go back to Europe eventually... Normally I have 1 year of warranty trough Yatango while in Australia.
And in Belgium we normally have 2 years of warranty and since I'm buying the international unlocked version they sell in Belgium there should be no reason for Samsung to refuse me warranty if necessary.
Normally rooting and flashing CMW/Cyanogenmod is the first thing I do after opening the box of my device, but with my previous phones I had to use the warranty every time. First my Xiaomi M2s got an unresponsive screen and ghost touches, I got a brand new one from Xiaomi sold it and bought a Oneplus one. Sadly the same thing happened to that device after a month, I sent it back and got a new one that one worked for half a year until I was in Australia for a week. Same problem... So 3 times so far I had to deal with horrible Chinese customer service and had to get trough a lot of hassle to replace it, but this time Oneplus refused me warranty because they don't ship/pick up in Australia. That is the mean reason I just went for a Samsung now because for 1 I hope there devices are built better and because I just want to be able to have normal warranty.
With Oneplus, Xiaomi, ZTE etc you can just flash the fastboot image and lock the bootloader again and they don't refuse warranty, but with the S6 it would be a real shame if they would not fix a hardware issue because KNOX is tripped. Hopefully I won't need warranty this time!
I will see how annoying all the bloat ware is and if I really have to remove it with root or if just hiding it will be enough.
Well, what does trip Knox besides custom ROM's? Custom kernels? Xposed? Adblock? I have no clue.
And my last Samsung device was the original Note which didn't have Knox. When I got my One M7 I sweared I wouldn't touch Samsung's phones again, especially with their Knox/eFuse shenanigans. But right now the S6 is one of the best choices out there..
Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207
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, I just wanted to make a topic where you can discuss what does or doesn't trip the KNOX counter.
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Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM.
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LGSilva said:
Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207
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I wouldn't assume anything about the S6/S6E based on this.
Actually I have my Knox virgin, and I prefer to keep it this way, just because I don't want to perform a modify that can't be restored in the future (we may need it); and actually I don't feel the need for flashing anything that trips KNox, I'm happy with my stock rooted phone....
LGSilva said:
Just some information I got from a different forum (gsm forum) about knox on other samsung devices. It appears that devices with snapdragon chips use efuses and once blown they can not be reset but devices with exynos store that information in a special partition that can be erased and reprogramed with special software AND hardware.
There is also some information here on XDA on the note 3 and knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642207
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Thanks for this, hopefully some solution pops up for the S6 as well!
CafeKampuchia said:
Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM..
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I'll add that to the first post thanks!
gpvecchi said:
Actually I have my Knox virgin, and I prefer to keep it this way, just because I don't want to perform a modify that can't be restored in the future (we may need it); and actually I don't feel the need for flashing anything that trips KNox, I'm happy with my stock rooted phone....
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Yea I think I'm going to keep it stock and root as well I think, just to get rid of the bloat ware. With what did you remove it?
You used this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/safe-to-debloat-s6-threads-t3090383
KNOX Counter has the following benefits:
a. Even though your device is lost, the person who stole it cannot use it. Without your account, the device cannot be reset to factory settings and flashed with any ROM.
b. KNOX protects your private data and information with its advanced technology. Here is the official link to White Paper: An Overview of Samsung KNOX
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Is it really true that you can't factory reset or flash a rom without having my account? How about flashing stock trough odin? If this is true it would be a awesome feature if the device gets stolen they can't use it.
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Flashing any unsigned image, whether a kernel, recovery or a custom ROM.
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I wouldn't assume anything about the S6/S6E based on this.
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Well flashing a custom rom doesn't necessarily trip Knox. As long as you don't install a custom recovery you can flash a custom rom using flashfire.
morfini said:
Well flashing a custom rom doesn't necessarily trip Knox. As long as you don't install a custom recovery you can flash a custom rom using flashfire.
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That is in theory or you actually managed to flash a rom to your phone that way?
EDIT 1: They seem to be discussing that here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/flashfire-t3104060/page5
Flashing a recovery or a kernel will trip Knox...
Oh, I debloated manually...
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That is in theory or you actually managed to flash a rom to your phone that way?
EDIT 1: They seem to be discussing that here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/flashfire-t3104060/page5
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No, not yet because every rom here contains Aroma installer which is not supported yet by flashfire. However Chainfire claims this will happen eventually. On Verizon s6 there are already three custom roms which can be flashed with flashfire. Only o custom recovery or a custom kernel will trip knox.
I thought you could use flashfire for T-mobile and flash custom roms.. You just have to remove the boot.img and the script that installs the kernal from the .ZIP
Thought they got looper installed with flashfire
morfini said:
No, not yet because every rom here contains Aroma installer which is not supported yet by flashfire. However Chainfire claims this will happen eventually. On Verizon s6 there are already three custom roms which can be flashed with flashfire. Only o custom recovery or a custom kernel will trip knox.
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Yea I've seen your name pop up a lot in the flashfire topic, I've read some people successfully flashed a from without kernel trough flashfire. Guess we just have to be patient for now.
xposed ll trip knox?
I'm sitting here thinking like "Should I do it? Should I trip Knox? Should I install TWRP?"
I've rooted and flashed all my phones so far but there aren't any good ROMs yet for the S6 which would make that decision a really good one...
EpicLPer said:
I'm sitting here thinking like "Should I do it? Should I trip Knox? Should I install TWRP?"
I've rooted and flashed all my phones so far but there aren't any good ROMs yet for the S6 which would make that decision a really good one...
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Same here. I am itching to flash and root on this device but still waiting till at least one fully stable ROM for a daily driver.
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Do you care about KNOX warranty and it's features or not? If not why?
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I've been using iPhones for years before my S6. Every single iPhone I've had since the 3GS I've always jailbroken and hacked. I was certainly not going to care about Knox now that I have an android.
I'm using XtreStoLite ROM and loving it.
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mauley said:
Same here. I am itching to flash and root on this device but still waiting till at least one fully stable ROM for a daily driver.
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[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/development/rom-xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423"]Here is a fully stable and amazing ROM.
Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings
CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.
ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.
Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?
The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.
1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.
Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings
The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.
@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.