VZW LTE disgraceful speeds - Droid Ultra General

Wow. Definitely going to TMo. I'm literally standing right next to a tower
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Did you try a different testing server?
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Several. This was the median test.
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Topsnake said:
Wow. Definitely going to TMo. I'm literally standing right next to a tower
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I cant say why this is, but at my home out in the country side, I am about 1/8th mile from a tower - so pretty close. There I get about 10 Mbits . At my office near downtown Minneapolis, I get 30+ . All towers not created equally? I'm still on stock 4.2.2 fyi.

The one I tested is in a metro area. I'm assuming congestion. However i pay them big bucks. As i type this from the TMobile network lol
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@ home in CT and up in MA I get great up/down speeds. In NYC - Grand Central and downtown financial district its atrocious.

I'd be thrilled if I got 5mbps reliably. There are locations in the DC metro area where I'm lucky to get 500kbps on LTE.
Signal strength isn't the issue. Speed is determined by a lot of factors, but I think it's usually limited by the number of users at a given time, or potentially by the backhaul in some locations.

Topsnake said:
Wow. Definitely going to TMo. I'm literally standing right next to a tower
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Absolutely no expert here..BUT..Is your slow speeds due to being to close to the tower, maybe over shooting you..because seems to me, the towers are designed to beam out for broader reception..maybe not down lower as much..just a thought..don't know how it all works.?
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Absolutely no expert here..BUT..Is your slow speeds due to being to close to the tower, maybe over shooting you..because seems to me, the towers are designed to beam out for broader reception..maybe not down lower as much..just a thought..don't know how it all works.?
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I could see that, if signal was lower as well. Seeing as it's pegged, I'm assuming I'm hitting that one.
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If you are that close to a tower then there's your problem. Those things aren't engineered for someone to be that close, its why they're usually someplace inaccessible.

This one is right down the street next to a storage center. You can stand on the sidewalk and be about 50 yards from it.
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And here is big magenta TMobile with less signal
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These are results on verizon. I noticed a huge speed increase after the first update to 4.2.2 (that was part of the update)
The speeds above 20 are from bigger cities.
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Maybe AWS area? Location?
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This thread proves that some people will complain about anything.
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This thread proves that some people will complain about anything.
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No, it shows that the problem with congestion is not nationwide. I live in a metro area. ****
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I live in a rural area and would be happy if my home internet could get speeds like that. In my area Verizon outperforms everyone everywhere I go. Go off the beaten path with T mobile and see how great their 4g is then.
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AT&T puts 4G at Orlando International Airport?

So get this AT&T turns on 4G at MCO (orlando international) but they can't turn it on for Orlando itself... come on att
http://www.localwireless.com/wap/ne...4646&cid=17148&scid=2442&ith=0&title=Business
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Hurray for me, I work at the airport!
Link for those not using their phones at the time - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-oia-4g-towers-20110331,0,748379.story
I'm waiting for this too..... let's GO already, Orlandonians!!!
I'm going to orlando at the end of april, can't wait to try it out!
I'm with you guys they need to turn it on in Orlando, especially by ucf
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Seems, even by what is stated in the Orlando Sentinel article, that the network was put into place just to "fill gaps" in the coverage as it was pretty pathetic before. I was just there on April 1st, and I wasn't seeing any difference there than I do at my house over closer to downtown. However, it is nice that they decided to build it out to support the capability...when our phones can actually use it is another story altogether.
I've got an Atrix and I get around 3Mbs down and around 300k up both at home and at the airport.
From what I've read, it seems that a phone update will be required to turn it on anyway...but if ATT can be believed, we might get to see it this month sometime.
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I'm with you guys they need to turn it on in Orlando, especially by ucf
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i-drive is going to get it first
then downtown may be
florida mall might be after
ucf can only wait
Can anyone link to a deployment schedule/map for AT&T 4G ?
WhyBe said:
Can anyone link to a deployment schedule/map for AT&T 4G ?
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That unfortunately doesn't exist. We can only hope to get it soon. I had one of the att reps back in december tell me that my signal had gone from good to absolute crap because orlando was a test market for 4G so one can only hope that a simple flip of the imaginary switch will give us 4G aka 3G+
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I went to disneyworld two weeks ago, and the internet was sloooow there. Compared ot the 4.5mbps I get at home i gt like 1.2
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I went to disneyworld two weeks ago, and the internet was sloooow there. Compared ot the 4.5mbps I get at home i gt like 1.2
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There's signal issues at disney I think there might be some issue with att putting up towers on property. Similar to how the airport used to be but att pays MCO a decent amount to have put up the towers up
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I don't know about you, but is anyone else a little surprised by how many Central Floridians there are posting in this thread? That means.... using an Atrix and knowing a thing or two about making it better! Pretty cool, I guess none of you "feel safe enough" or "like Orlando" enough to list your location on the profile to display with each post though! haha
I have orlando listed in my info, have since day one of joining this sight.....
And in regards to a 4G coverage map they dont realy exist.... I work for AT&T and do customer service in the call center by UCF and there is no info in regards to when the update will be released for the Atrix/Inspire .... Or what the coverage looks like
All I know when I check are network coverage tool and look at the towers in the downtown orlando area none of time are listed as HSPA..... They are all still reporting UMTS only, and there is no info about the backhaul or updates to the towers that I have checked...
Sitting in MCO as I post this. Have worked here for the last 4 years and will say that they have made vast improvements on the tower infrastructure here. Used to be that you would get no reception out at the 1-60 gates end of the airport. That's all fixed. Of course still getting the typical 3mbs down .3 up here so will see when ATT lets the update go. I sure it is a simple update that won't require me to go though what I did with the last. Not that the last was hard, just a pain....

This is bull

The only way I make a call that won't drop is by rooting my phone and using the roam control app. Wtf sprint? Why cant we get the strong signal on the sprint network that we get from roaming?
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blackdragon79 said:
The only way I make a call that won't drop is by rooting my phone and using the roam control app. Wtf sprint? Why cant we get the strong signal on the sprint network that we get from roaming?
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You realize that there is probably someone that has Verizon that does the same thing and is complaining about the same thing???
You aren't going to get perfect signal everywhere from any carrier.
blackdragon79 said:
The only way I make a call that won't drop is by rooting my phone and using the roam control app. Wtf sprint? Why cant we get the strong signal on the sprint network that we get from roaming?
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Milkman00 said:
You realize that there is probably someone that has Verizon that does the same thing and is complaining about the same thing???
You aren't going to get perfect signal everywhere from any carrier.
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Yeah, except Sprint was the last one in the spectrum pool, so they ended up with the 1900 mhz spectrum, which doesn't penetrate buildings and cars as well as the 800 mhz spectrum that the other folks are playing with. And don't get me started with the 2.5 gHz spectrum that WiMax is living on.
+1 on crap signal everywhere
+1 on the 1900 PCS band being garbage
+1 on 2.5 ghz being even worse
Higher the freq, higher the loss....
I carry an Epic, a Captivate and a 7" G-Tab. I keep my epic permanently roamed on Verizon for voice services, leave the tab on Sprint for unlimited data and the cappy is for work. Verizon by far has the best call quality and highest signal levels. Even when in a spot with full bars on all of them, big red calls sound the clearest.
Google Network Vision. Just be patient.
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Google Network Vision. Just be patient.
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What the hell is that? Source?
DangerZone1223 said:
What the hell is that? Source?
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http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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What the hell is that? Source?
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Network Vision is Sprint's attempt to become the most dependable (if not best) network by 2013. They're converting EACH of their towers to multinode frequencies. So, each tower's radius will be increased along with the amount of capacity it can handle. Those areas where you have1 bar should increase dramatically (and it should all be done by 2013-2014).
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Network Vision is Sprint's attempt to become the most dependable (if not best) network by 2013. They're converting EACH of their towers to multinode frequencies. So, each tower's radius will be increased along with the amount of capacity it can handle. Those areas where you have1 bar should increase dramatically (and it should all be done by 2013-2014).
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Cool I wish it be sooner tho lol.
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Cool I wish it be sooner tho lol.
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I'm excited about it! Sprint is also introducing an enhanced 1x/3G technology (EvDo B) which is supposed to have speeds equal to or greater than WiMax (greater than 19mbps.)
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Network Vision is Sprint's attempt to become the most dependable (if not best) network by 2013. They're converting EACH of their towers to multinode frequencies. So, each tower's radius will be increased along with the amount of capacity it can handle. Those areas where you have1 bar should increase dramatically (and it should all be done by 2013-2014).
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I can appreciate what they're doing to fix this problem and I appreciate you giving this info. But like I said in a similar conversation yesterday, I can't wait until 2013 to make a reliable phone call. Patience is one thing, but waiting 2 years to make a phone call from my desk is a bit much. Once winter hits I won't want to go stand in freezing tempretures to save 20 bucks a month on my phone bill.
Edit: I know this pic is blurry, but it shows 1 bar of Sprint vs full bars of AT&T. If AT&T can make it in here, I deserve at least 2 or 3 bars from Sprint damnit!
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I'm excited about it! Sprint is also introducing an enhanced 1x/3G technology (EvDo B) which is supposed to have speeds equal to or greater than WiMax (greater than 19mbps.)
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Verizon was gonna roll out rev b. Vut then sprint jumped the gun and threatened them with wimax lol i dont think rev b is faster than wimax...but prolly somewhere near
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Verizon was gonna roll out rev b. Vut then sprint jumped the gun and threatened them with wimax lol i dont think rev b is faster than wimax...but prolly somewhere near
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The most I've ever hit was 11 mbps on Wimax. Maybe it's because I'm sharing the network, though.
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The most I've ever hit was 11 mbps on Wimax. Maybe it's because I'm sharing the network, though.
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Its because they're rate limiting it...
I was in a building today where the opposite is true. Zero service from Verizon and 4 bars from Sprint. It just seems funny to me when people make these complaints. If you don't get service where you spend a majority of your time, you picked the wrong provider. If AT&T was the only company that had good service where I live, i'd be paying a lot more for cell service. Fortunately for me, all the major providers are pretty equal in Portland, so I can go cheap lol
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I was in a building today where the opposite is true. Zero service from Verizon and 4 bars from Sprint. It just seems funny to me when people make these complaints. If you don't get service where you spend a majority of your time, you picked the wrong provider. If AT&T was the only company that had good service where I live, i'd be paying a lot more for cell service. Fortunately for me, all the major providers are pretty equal in Portland, so I can go cheap lol
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I dont get service in my house. I step RIGHT out the door, BOOM im drowning in spectrum. Come in, no service. Lol im sure my walls arent made of led since i get full service roaming on verizon.
I hope with network vision, they really up the building penetration of atleast 3g. I also get 1 bar of 4g with the random reconnect (which i dont blame it on...im lucky it catches the signal at all!) and 0-1 bars of Sprint (all g's) lol
when i head upstairs...i get all bars everything. just my part of the house is whack
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The most I've ever hit was 11 mbps on Wimax. Maybe it's because I'm sharing the network, though.
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thats the most ive hit too lol so that immediately screams "CAP!" to me lol.
but nah sprint was gonna have rev b a long time ago as well but decided against it. I think the max was only 6mbs or something. Source where its capable of 19mbs please? (just curious cuz rev b interested me since i found out about it the day i got my hero...)
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thats the most ive hit too lol so that immediately screams "CAP!" to me lol.
but nah sprint was gonna have rev b a long time ago as well but decided against it. I think the max was only 6mbs or something. Source where its capable of 19mbs please? (just curious cuz rev b interested me since i found out about it the day i got my hero...)
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I dont get service in my house. I step RIGHT out the door, BOOM im drowning in spectrum. Come in, no service. Lol im sure my walls arent made of led since i get full service roaming on verizon.
I hope with network vision, they really up the building penetration of atleast 3g. I also get 1 bar of 4g with the random reconnect (which i dont blame it on...im lucky it catches the signal at all!) and 0-1 bars of Sprint (all g's) lol
when i head upstairs...i get all bars everything. just my part of the house is whack
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Hey, I'm all for improved penetration ... wait, what were we talking about??
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I hope with network vision, they really up the building penetration of atleast 3g.
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I don't think that will be possible. The part of the 3G spectrum Sprint owns is not very good at penetrating buildings. The best you could hope for is that with a stronger signal strength they'll be able to compensate for that technical limitation, but it won't be as good as what other carriers offer in terms of building penetration.

Wtf happened to network vision?

Its been a year and I live in NYC and I see NO change in service. Still the same dead spots everywhere there was one.
Sprint is really messing up by taking their sweet ass time.
I read an article that the nexus won't be coming out till June/July. What? By then, the Verizon version (with LTE) will have been 7 or so months old. Almost time for that yearly upgrade.
Maybe its because they want the iPhone 4s to sell so that's why they're taking their sweet ass time, but tbh, after swearing by sprint for years (since my bbcurve 8820) I'm starting to be distracted by tmobile.
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Sprint, on their site, says its Galaxy Nexus is LTE. So summer was when they supposed to switch on lte. Some areas might be harder to update the service or something else, my service in Virginia (speed and signal strength) has doubled in the past year.
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With an ETA of late 2013 for full-deployment, Network Vision is the fastest full network roll-out/replacement I've ever heard of. Remember, Sprint is betting the farm on it and they are paying a decent premium to Ericsson to build it for them. They aren't just adding Mobile Base Stations, they are completely replacing the majority of them. Currently, they have to maintain around three per site; CDMA, WiMax, iDEN, and back-haul.
The new MBSes will be a single station with perhaps the exception of back-haul, since that is dependent of the technology and geographic area.
The fact of the matter is that they are literally rebuilding their entire network and are doing it right; not half-assed like all the other carriers in the US. A lot of that new infrastructure is in-place, but they have to wait for things like microwave and fiber links to be lit-up before they can configure as well as light their new MBSS equipment up.
As for dense urban areas, there is a reason there are dead spots. Lots of buildings that absorb, block, and refractive signals. It's the largest challenge in wireless networks and it takes a lot of time/manpower to get working reliably.
And don't forget, iDEN is being phased completely out as well, so devices that utilize that 850/900MHz block of spectrum have to be made.
Think of some short-term pain for long-term gain.
As for the late 2013 ETA; I was told directly by someone at Ericsson at Sprint's WHQ (they share that huge campus in Overland Park) that completion timeframe. They also mentioned that they were going at break-neck speed in doing it. I hope that isn't sensitive information, as I think it's publicly available.
Any more complaints?
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Mutiny32, thank you for the insightful post - it certainly lends optimism to those of us who decided to stick it out with Sprint. I also live in NYC and while VZW is definitely better right now for building penetration due to its lower frequency and its LTE is way faster than Sprint's 4G Still, I don't see that many serious reception issues with Sprint, although coverage _outside_ NYC and network speeds in/out could definitely be better (and did Sprint completely stop WiMax expansion? These towers can be converted to LTE once it's ready, can't they?). A few times my texts have been delayed - for over a day, which never happens with my wife's Droid 2. Even though I am on SERO, joining wifey's family plan with VZW would have cost about the same $$ for the same minutes and perks, and I never use more than 2.5 GB of data per month. Verizon simply does not have a worthy QWERTY slider phone to upgrade to (Droid 4, with its non-swappable battery, crappy screen does not make the grade and Stratosphere is not an upgrade to Epic). CM9 lent my Epic a new life, even though I am very annoyed at not being able to get my phone to autorotate and the proximity sensor to work with the rom (features work on CleanGB). Will see what slider phone options Sprint will have when LTE rolls out.
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Its been a year and I live in NYC and I see NO change in service. Still the same dead spots everywhere there was one.
Sprint is really messing up by taking their sweet ass time.
I read an article that the nexus won't be coming out till June/July. What? By then, the Verizon version (with LTE) will have been 7 or so months old. Almost time for that yearly upgrade.
Maybe its because they want the iPhone 4s to sell so that's why they're taking their sweet ass time, but tbh, after swearing by sprint for years (since my bbcurve 8820) I'm starting to be distracted by tmobile.
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Yeah, why is it taking so long for them to rebuild EVERY radio site including replacing all the antennas all over the country? I mean come on, it only took them what, 10 years to build it the first time.
Seriously, digiblur posted a link to this blog which has great detailed info about each market's buildout. It may answer the OP's questions.
http://s4gru.com/
According to that site, NYC is a second round market, and second round markets will begin buildout between May and December 2012 if there are no issues with first round buildouts that would delay things.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
I would prefer the second round myself. The crews should have plenty of experience by then.
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Sprint, on their site, says its Galaxy Nexus is LTE. So summer was when they supposed to switch on lte. Some areas might be harder to update the service or something else, my service in Virginia (speed and signal strength) has doubled in the past year.
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That's awesome for you. In Lansing and Jackson, MI my speeds have dropped by about half in general. Sprint service is starting to really suck here
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Thank you all for all the info....I have been wondering what was happening in the short/medium term for Sprint.
YES! We are in the 1st round of deployment (SF Bay Area), and we are being handled by Samsung. Well, considering the Bay Area is home to Silicon Valley, then it would be well worth it for Sprint to have NV/LTE here as soon as possible. The city I live in is where AT&T's West coast headquarters are located at (AT&T service is awesome here with LTE speeds of over 40 Mbps), I hope Sprint improves it's service out here soon.
I was so happy when I saw Chicago was on that initial list. I was floored when it wasn't, simply as the size of Chicago you think would be a good priority considering there are slightly over 10M people in this area. Now I see it's just because it won't be 'done' until Q4 this year. But, they're already working on it, which is fantastic!
I've had an upgrade since Feb '11, but haven't ditched the Epic, still holding strong. With the next Nexus coming out in a few months, I may jump on that bad boy real quick instead of waiting out the end of the year. It's really a Nexus vs HTC One X vs SGSIII debate now.
alright, sprint is "COMPLETELY" upgrading the ENTIRE network. and it's not going to be fully complete until 2014. they have to make sure every tower and base station is talking to each other, and they have to test run range quality with data and voice. so it's impossible they are done in less than a year. YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT. are you aware that they are going to be lowering the mhz fruequency to either 800 or 900? so that way, you get stronger signal strength and faster speeds.
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are you aware that they are going to be lowering the mhz fruequency to either 800 or 900?
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Not quite accurate. 1900mhz will stay around, but Sprint's 800mhz assets, currently tied up by IDEN, will be transitioned to EVDO and LTE usage.
That's what I mean. Note: I did not say 190mhz terminated.
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Not quite accurate. 1900mhz will stay around, but Sprint's 800mhz assets, currently tied up by IDEN, will be transitioned to EVDO and LTE usage.
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800 will not be for LTE at first and some sites will not get any 800. And some sites will only get 800 for voice.
The http://s4gru.com site answered all my questions about my 1x problems. Its seems that sprints been working on the towers in my town. They will be only half done now and the other half in June. Also I was not aware Elgin was large enough to be on sprints radar for spectrum saturation. Hopefully they will implement something soon to help with that issue.
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The http://s4gru.com site answered all my questions about my 1x problems. Its seems that sprints been working on the towers in my town. They will be only half done now and the other half in June. Also I was not aware Elgin was large enough to be on sprints radar for spectrum saturation. Hopefully they will implement something soon to help with that issue.
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Technically I live in Elgin, so I'm pretty happy about that. While Elgin is a suburb, it's still over 100,000 people. It seems like they're starting in the West burbs, and working in towards the city. I spend the majority of my time in Elgin and Schaumburg, so as soon as that Nexus comes out, assuming it has slightly upgraded specs, I'll be all over that thing with Sprint LTE
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Its been a year and I live in NYC and I see NO change in service. Still the same dead spots everywhere there was one.
Sprint is really messing up by taking their sweet ass time.
I read an article that the nexus won't be coming out till June/July. What? By then, the Verizon version (with LTE) will have been 7 or so months old. Almost time for that yearly upgrade.
Maybe its because they want the iPhone 4s to sell so that's why they're taking their sweet ass time, but tbh, after swearing by sprint for years (since my bbcurve 8820) I'm starting to be distracted by tmobile.
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T-Mobile doesn't have LTE...
xboxfanj said:
T-Mobile doesn't have LTE...
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They have hspa+? Right?!
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They have hspa+? Right?!
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Right, but it's not actually LTE if I remember correctly.
Just saw this on the s4gru.com website associated with Network Vision:
FCC Ready to give Sprint official go ahead on SMR 800MHz wideband spectrum

2G signal most of the time

Hello,
I have a question about my phone. Most of the time I travel on major highways the phone runs on 2G only. Is this normal? I'm running modem E30 or something like that.
Is this normal for sprint or is this a problem with the modem? For example, route US80 has this problem alongside the border of Ohio.
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Mo6152 said:
Hello,
I have a question about my phone. Most of the time I travel on major highways the phone runs on 2G only. Is this normal? I'm running modem E30 or something like that.
Is this normal for sprint or is this a problem with the modem? For example, route US80 has this problem alongside the border of Ohio.
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Yup welcome to go old sprint. Lol. 4G is a myth in most places and 3G is hit and miss. And 1G is common data speeds
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Seems like ever since the galaxy 3 came out, my data speeds have decreased big time... Coincidence???
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Seems like ever since the galaxy 3 came out, my data speeds have decreased big time... Coincidence???
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Yes, because my data speeds are still excellent.
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Zeinzu said:
Yes, because my data speeds are still excellent.
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its too funny i went over to check out the T-mobile and all (bored at mall).
And their HSPA+ had one bar and was getting 0.05Mbps then i tested my crappy 3g network and was getting 0.25-30Mbps. :fingers-crossed: haha
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Yes, because my data speeds are still excellent.
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Mine too, in certain areas of Brooklyn. In my office in Manhattan, where I worked for 1.5 years an had a steady 3-bar 3g, have been getting 1x/roam for the past week. Called Sprint tech support 3 times last week, "tower out, will be fixed in two days tops" was the standard reply. It was still 1x today. While hoping that it is readying towers for LTE lauch, the realist in me thinks that it is Sprint being Sprint.
This has nothing to do with the current topic but those of you with all these outages and reduced signal and speeds, have you noticed satellite tv outages lately?
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When i switched from aokp to cm9 i got better signal strength, it was marcusant kang.
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I still have no Sprint service in my entire city after the storm yesterday around 1:00 AM. I'll call Sprint tomorrow but I'm pissed since my whole family and a large portion of the city don't have any service. Of course, when I do get service it sounds like people are talking into a fan and data is only slightly faster than nothing. Thanks Sprint, good on you for getting the iPhone to keep your company afloat and then ****ting all over your other, more loyal, users.
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After a storm, outages are expected - but so is a reasonable timetable of restoring service. I recall during the East Coast earthquake how T-Mobile and Sprint were both down/overloaded in my area, whereas ATT and Verizon both worked - RoamControl FTW Still, it does speak for the network back-end capacity and Sprint lacking in that area. I assume that in areas where service sucks, it will likely continue to suck for most of the year until the LTE switch is flipped.
Just in case, this is the guesstimate of Sprint's planned LTE deployment, which should (presumably) mean better 3G as well.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

Switching to sprint.

I'll start off by saying I was an ex sprint customer after leaving due to the wimax mess and moving to Verizon with LTE. After Verizon and there nonsense moved to T-Mobile.
T-Mobile has been great, minus the fact that as of the past 2 months I can't get signal anywhere in doors anymore it seems even with new Sim and device and they tell me the network is fine. Been with them a hair under 2 years.
Anyway. I have really strong spark coverage at my work place. Just everyone with sprint has a non spark iPhone. They do get LTE but on the weaker side. I am well aware being a Samsung user for years, that our radios suck compared to iPhone radios and I am trying hard not to get an iPhone just so I can have signal at work.
So my question is, before I start the mess of getting a second phone and testing, does spark really work that much better in buildings? That is my trouble now. T-Mobile seems to be pushing everything on LTE and weakening the H+ network and so signal indoors is worthless.
We don't need to get into a debate on which carrier is better. I won't even try. I had a wimax phone and a bad experience and left, but that was back on the day the thunderbolt was released on verizon, day 1 of there LTE network. So has been a long time.
Seems to me they have improved greatly since then and I am actually kinda excited to possibly come back!
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Well I'm happy with Sprint, not sure about Tmo but Sprint offers WiFi calling at no extra charge which is great for indoors as long as you have a network available. At least with my plan there's no charge.
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Care to elaborate? Is either this. No signal at work or getting destroyed by verizon and att on dumb data fees.
schlepprock said:
Well I'm happy with Sprint, not sure about Tmo but Sprint offers WiFi calling at no extra charge which is great for indoors as long as you have a network available. At least with my plan there's no charge.
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We have WiFi calling. I work in a very secure data center and WiFi is a non option. If it was I wouldn't even be looking.
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I have a Spark Note 4 but can't really speak to coverage indoors. Spark coverage is so sparse at the moment it's really hit or miss. If that is the one draw to bring you back I would suggest holding off at least for a few months to see if Sprint actually expands the Spark coverage as they keep promising to do (think wimax)
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I'll start off by saying I was an ex sprint customer after leaving due to the wimax mess and moving to Verizon with LTE. After Verizon and there nonsense moved to T-Mobile.
T-Mobile has been great, minus the fact that as of the past 2 months I can't get signal anywhere in doors anymore it seems even with new Sim and device and they tell me the network is fine. Been with them a hair under 2 years.
Anyway. I have really strong spark coverage at my work place. Just everyone with sprint has a non spark iPhone. They do get LTE but on the weaker side. I am well aware being a Samsung user for years, that our radios suck compared to iPhone radios and I am trying hard not to get an iPhone just so I can have signal at work.
So my question is, before I start the mess of getting a second phone and testing, does spark really work that much better in buildings? That is my trouble now. T-Mobile seems to be pushing everything on LTE and weakening the H+ network and so signal indoors is worthless.
We don't need to get into a debate on which carrier is better. I won't even try. I had a wimax phone and a bad experience and left, but that was back on the day the thunderbolt was released on verizon, day 1 of there LTE network. So has been a long time.
Seems to me they have improved greatly since then and I am actually kinda excited to possibly come back!
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I just ran a bunch of data speed tests for you. I have good Spark coverage and these were taken inside my house in my living room. I have (some) Spark coverage at work but only get speeds of around 10 mbps download plus or minus and I am on the top floor. All in all it smokes Sprint's basic LTE.
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I have a Spark Note 4 but can't really speak to coverage indoors. Spark coverage is so sparse at the moment it's really hit or miss. If that is the one draw to bring you back I would suggest holding off at least for a few months to see if Sprint actually expands the Spark coverage as they keep promising to do (think wimax)
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It isnt spark so much, as getting data in my work building.
Wimax I couldn't get signal indoors to save my life and the signal was just strong enough to reach the end of my driveway at the time. Right now I spend 40-50 hours a week not even being able to call 911. That and unlimited data I'd why I am looking at sprint first.
I was really just curious how it was. We have exceptional spark coverage in Cincinnati right now along with where I work in northern KY(per the maps anyway)
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I just ran a bunch of data speed tests for you. I have good Spark coverage and these were taken inside my house in my living room. I have (some) Spark coverage at work but only get speeds of around 10 mbps download plus or minus and I am on the top floor. All in all it smokes Sprint's basic LTE.
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Those are very nice speeds! I've hit 60 down with T-Mobile on LTE outdoors at times. Far faster than I honestly need. I used to stream Netflix or Pandora at work, play clash of clans, browse web pages etc. Long as my connection is fast enough for that(tmo I was getting 4-5 down at the time and worked fine.)
I'd be happy with 10!
Tmo closed my ticket for their broken tower a 7th time, so I am just gonna give sprint a go. I'll wait to port my number and make sure I get signal in the usual places I ago.
I am more worried about a family member getting in an accident and not being able to get a hold of me because I have no signal.
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I am more worried about a family member getting in an accident and not being able to get a hold of me because I have no signal.
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Smart way of thinking.
I been with sprint for awhile now and this is what i always get before and after spark really can't tell the difference thank god i don't use the sprint towers only for data. I'm not trying to bash sprint but this is what it is plain and simple where i live. I have a tower 3 blocks up the street from my house and i can Walk up the street and see the signal increase as i get closer. I was with tmobile before sprint and hspa and there 3g was faster than what i get with sprint. Must be nice to get fast speeds. With sprint it's hit or miss because some people get what i get and others get fast speeds . Hope your on the fast end because this 4glte spark in Rockford,Illinois is very slow 3g slow.
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I been with sprint for awhile now and this is what i always get before and after spark really can't tell the difference thank god i don't use the sprint towers only for data. I'm not trying to bash sprint but this is what it is plain and simple where i live. I have a tower 3 blocks up the street from my house and i can Walk up the street and see the signal increase as i get closer. I was with tmobile before sprint and hspa and there 3g was faster than what i get with sprint. Must be nice to get fast speeds. With sprint it's hit or miss because some people get what i get and others get fast speeds . Hope your on the fast end because this 4glte spark in Rockford,Illinois is very slow 3g slow.
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I'm glad I live right outside of DC is your 3G faster then that?
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I'm glad I live right outside of DC is your 3G faster then that?
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This is my 3g unfortunately it's slower lol
Yeah that is what worries me. Speeds like that are terrible. Sadly outside around my work area those are the speeds I see over H+. So I do feel your pain to a degree.
I am definitely going to test this first. Hopefully the sprint network here is strong(maps look good but I've learned my lesson there). I looked and I'd pay $250 for data alone from Verizon/att to use the phone as I was using it.
I'd rather pay for an extra phone only line on my parents att family account for emergencies than get those speeds.
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Dude. Check it out. I keep every variant. Sprint in my town of middle georgia area i have sprint working as only company next to limited data verizon that works indoors and out for me on lte. Period. Lte i do not think i get spark. Though it spins like i do i will leave a screeny. This is plenty for me. Not to mention 100 gigs a month. Easy. I have no wifi right now. Lol
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Just check your coverage map. You have 14 days to test.
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Just check your coverage map. You have 14 days to test.
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I am picking up a phone tomorrow. I just figured if everyone said it wasnt good indoors if call it a day. Based on feedback so far I think I will have to test.
Really hoping for the best.
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Take it everywhere you frequent. Then make your judgment. Many happy people. Many upset. Sadly verizon is still the best in my opinion. But like i said for me sprint has won. I tried 14 days and it worked great for me in work area and home. Not to mention unlimited lte. Happy.
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I am picking up a phone tomorrow. I just figured if everyone said it wasnt good indoors if call it a day. Based on feedback so far I think I will have to test.
Really hoping for the best.
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And do not take the OE1 update!
jhill110 said:
And do not take the OE1 update!
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Whys that?
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Whys that?
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Because it limits your options. I'm stick'n with @tx_dbs_tx 's OB7 based hyrid-x rom's. At this point had I gone flash junkie just to get the OE1 update that would no longer be possible... At this point. I'm pretty sure one of the brilliant devs around here will figure it out but until then... For me, No dice.

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